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Fair enough. But defensive Gastrodon is completely superior to defensive Swampert.
Actually umbarsc is wrong. If the top 75% of pokemon usage makes up OU, and Garchomp takes up 4% of that, there is less for everybody else. Garchomp takes up space, which leaves less space for everybody else. Causation, not correlation
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Do not forget yanmega. The only thing that can safely switch onto it is blissey, and SR is arguably the main yanmega counter out there..., and is not that easy to revenge kill it thanks to hypnosis and speed boost (even deoxys-e can't revenge kill it when it's got more than 1 speed boost, and with protect/hypnosis it's not a difficult task to do...)
If garchomp is mearly correlated and not causing it, then please tell the community what the underlying variable is.
God damnit. Garchomp is still in OU. I'd have to say this is outrageous.
Seriously if the community is so outraged then why is it still OU? And if people use it why are they complaining about it? :/
Going by our earliest ladder figures:
Blissey in October 2007 (Unweighted): 30691
Garchomp in June 2008 (Unweighted): 50681
Difference: 19990
Garchomp in his prime (ie. now) is receiving just under twenty thousand more uses than Blissey was in her prime. So there's no logical way you can make this argument lol
The fact is, if Chomp is being used 4% of the time, then the rest of OU is what's being used 71% of the time. Which pretty much means less stuff can fit in OU by definition. I honestly don't understand how you can debate this, it's pretty simple.
I think you're perhaps over selling Yanmega a little ... it can
be easily stopped with neither Blissey or Stealth Rock.
People just need to be a little more willing to experiement.
So, let me see now.
Abomasnow being BL is understandable, like. Having that many weaknesses just doesn't do the iceman justice what with the permanence of sand.
Donphan surprises me a little, but I guess that he's outclassed by Forretress as a wall and spinner.
Ninjask being made BL is the first big mistake. Hypothetical situation: Ninjask simply dances before passing the boosts to something like Blaziken, who then uses that speed to 6-0 the opposition with the massive movepool.
Porygon-Z is another shock that just won't be. True, he's slower than Alakazam, but hell, he gets NP, and he only needs one boost in Speed to utterly dominate the BL tier. Yes, Azelf outclasses, but PZ can simply use TR to scare away something then utterly destroy the faster switch-in with his crappy speed.
Now we just need to promote That Fucking Dragon to Ubers.
Abomasnow being BL is understandable, like. Having that many weaknesses just doesn't do the iceman justice what with the permanence of sand.
Donphan surprises me a little, but I guess that he's outclassed by Forretress as a wall and spinner.
Ninjask being made BL is the first big mistake. Hypothetical situation: Ninjask simply dances before passing the boosts to something like Blaziken, who then uses that speed to 6-0 the opposition with the massive movepool.
Porygon-Z is another shock that just won't be. True, he's slower than Alakazam, but hell, he gets NP, and he only needs one boost in Speed to utterly dominate the BL tier. Yes, Azelf outclasses, but PZ can simply use TR to scare away something then utterly destroy the faster switch-in with his crappy speed.
Now we just need to promote That Fucking Dragon to Ubers.
roserade was expected for me, the lil' flower is just amazing, with toxic spikes absorb i don't even have to rapidspin and get poisoned
NOOOOOOOOO porygon-z! my first ev-trained pokemon has gone into BL! that's kinda sad, since scarf-z + some tankish dude = pure revenge-killing ownage
regarding spiritomb, i've always been sitting on the fence with this guy
as for all the rest, kinda expected it. ninjask is just stupid, donphan cant do anything besides spinning (which starmie does better imo), abomasnow cant beat fire or tyranitar, and kingdra really cries out for permarain.
NOOOOOOOOO porygon-z! my first ev-trained pokemon has gone into BL! that's kinda sad, since scarf-z + some tankish dude = pure revenge-killing ownage
regarding spiritomb, i've always been sitting on the fence with this guy
as for all the rest, kinda expected it. ninjask is just stupid, donphan cant do anything besides spinning (which starmie does better imo), abomasnow cant beat fire or tyranitar, and kingdra really cries out for permarain.
The massacre of UU pokemon will be horrid to watch >_>
Atleast theres one thing good for us. People will realise the true power of Alakazam :)
Milotic is OU right? Unless this is going to happen later if it drops out...
Milotic is OU right? Unless this is going to happen later if it drops out...
True lol.
Yes, Milotic is still OverUsed. This is because the OU list was generated data from the last three months, not just June alone, as already mentioned by X-Act.
