alexwolf
lurks in the shadows
that's what i am doing!Then make the opposite case.
ok if you want it so analyzed let's do it:+3 Energy Ball has 200 base power.
+2 Fire Blast has 240 base power.
+3 Hidden Power has 175 base power.
+2 Aura Sphere has 180 base power.
Those are pretty much the best two coverage moves that each one gets. If you notice, Mew's are stronger. Your "omg +3 is stoopid" argument doesn't hold up.
Although I will concede that Water STAB > Psychic STAB. On the other hand, Mew can use Psycho Shock to go pseudo-mixed.
mew's moveset according to you will be fire blast,aura sphere and psycho shock!so let's see
+2 fire blast has 240 base power
+3 ice beam has 237,5 base power and better accuracy
+2 aura sphere has 180 base power
+3 energy ball has 200 power
and of course
+2 psycho shock has 170 base power
+3 surf has has 237,5 base power
so i think it is obvious which poke has more power!and i also like the fact that whhen you made the comparisons you compared the moves that suited you best not the strongers with the strongers and the weaker with the weakers like you should...also i dont really know why you calculated hp on manaphy but the usual set is energy ball,ice beam and surf so...
of 'course it means a lot!what you are saying is that if drizzle was gone and manphy came in ou,mew would outclass him as a pure special sweeper!Mew being better than Manaphy in a Drizzle-less environment does not mean that "Mew would be used more". It just means that Manaphy would be used less. You can't say that Manaphy would be used more, because it hasn't been in a Drizzle-less OU yet. Mew being in UU has absolutely nothing to do with my reasoning. I'm saying it's better than Manaphy, not good enough for OU. Your discreditation failed, try again next time.
abd then i say to you that mew is not even close to how good of a sweeper is,first because of all the above calcs and the fact that water stab and typing is 100 times better than psychic...
after this i say to you that if mew was such a good special sweeper then it would be used more which is not the case(unless you are implying that manaphy is not a good special sweeper).
if manpahy gets in ou without drizzle i easily expect him to be at the top 30(and i believe that anyone will agree with me).so considering the fact that mew is not anywhere near the top 30 proves even more the fact that i am trying to show you!
anyway i am not going to discuss this since it is completely irrelevant!Manaphy would only be using CM if it wants to go the Bulky Booster route. Mew has recovery, making it arguably better in that role. Once again, Manaphy's only advantage is its superior typing.
And yes, CM sets probably are irrelevant.
ok!Yes, Manaphy is better at offense than Jirachi. But things like Mew are better at offense than Manaphy. So one Pokemon may not be better than Manaphy at everything, but something is at any given role.
I'd just like to say that I am not trying to talk about "how great Mew or Jirachi is". They were used for the sole purpose of being examples, because they have the same stats as Mew. Really, any Pokemon with similar stats would work as well.
i already did!i showed you that manaphy has more power and better typing!that means that it outclasses mew as a dedicated special sweeper!It's not that ridiculous! Show me why it is ridiculous, because so far all of your points have fallen down under real examination! I'll admit it's ridiculous when you can make a good argument for why it is.
again i showed you that your comparison,while hadding valid subjects for comparison,was wrong in its facts...manaphy is stronger than mew not the other way around!I'll repeat myself here, I'm not trying to portray Mew or any Pokemon as being an incredible sweeper in OU. I'm just drawing a comparison to Manaphy.
that's all i had to say!In Round 2, Manaphy could abuse CM by healing itself fully in a single turn. Without instant recovery, Manaphy would be worn down much too quickly for it to be as effective as in Round 2.
Of course, that would only change if Drizzle goes.