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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
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I wonder if DLC will add more things to do with materials.
It's a little funny how Version Exclusive materials just aren't used in TMs at all (my assumption was the recipe just differed between versions so ie one TM would ask for Deino in one version but Dreepy in another), so they're just vendor trash but it's trash that's not even worth more than normal (ie: Deino materials are worth the same as most of the other dragons at 100 LP)
DLC pokemon will presumably also have their own materials and I doubt they just make more TMs, so item crafting or w/e would make sense.
It's a little funny how Version Exclusive materials just aren't used in TMs at all (my assumption was the recipe just differed between versions so ie one TM would ask for Deino in one version but Dreepy in another), so they're just vendor trash but it's trash that's not even worth more than normal (ie: Deino materials are worth the same as most of the other dragons at 100 LP)
DLC pokemon will presumably also have their own materials and I doubt they just make more TMs, so item crafting or w/e would make sense.
It'd make sense, given we currently have 171 TMs and that's just a weird number.
Scald is actually the one thing I doubt will be "returning".
If their plan was to reintroduce it, they wouldn't have bothered with making Chilling Water (which serves similar purpose) a thing.
Differently from stuff like Knock Off or Toxic which didn't really see that much VGC usage, Scald (toghether with Muddy Water) was the de-facto move for most special water type not called Kyogre anyway, completely removing any thought of Hydro Pump / Surf.
Hey, I'm pretty happy that Toxic and Knock Off aren't as widely distributed as they were before. Knock Off especially was annoying since it meant that you didn't have an item 90% of the time.
Only move I miss is Roost since I liked Scizor having recovery.
If the DLC introduces Pokemon back to the game, then there will need to be some use for the material that they generate. I think they'll add a lot of TMs per DLC expansion (like around 50 - 100) since 200 additional Pokemon is roughly half of the base game's roster, which would be good for around half as many TMs.
Agreeable but not 100% necessary. The Paradoxes don't drop materials when killed, so they could also just not have the wild Pokemon in dlc areas drop anything either.
I mean, Chilling Water is one of those Icy Wind-esque moves (although Icy Wind is the superior one out of all of those due to targeting speed AND hitting multiple opponents).
Paradoxes aren't supposed to be regular Pokemon tho, they have the legendary flag after all (even if they are even less special than the Ultra Beasts), while I suppose, say, Tentacool or Wailmer, will drop secretions or blubber.
Surf and Hydro Pump would enjoy having a flinch rate or something tbh.
Paradoxes aren't supposed to be regular Pokemon tho, they have the legendary flag after all (even if they are even less special than the Ultra Beasts), while I suppose, say, Tentacool or Wailmer, will drop secretions or blubber.
Surf and Hydro Pump would enjoy having a flinch rate or something tbh.
Wait do they have the legendary flag because Serebii Joe has said like 3 times that there's ~nothing~ in the code to say they're legendary (even though we all know they clearly are treated like them) and it would be really funny if they actually did
That said yeah the paradoxes probably don't drop materials since they're meant to be unknown (the fact we can use them in post game battles being one of those "its not important enough to be canon" type deals) in the lore. "yeah i need 3 scream tail hairs to make Psychic" "that made up thing from the book???"
Not that it would matter anyway because as version exclusives even if they had materials you couldn't use them for anything!
Can someone let me know how Hisuian form works in this game?
I understand that Goomy may not be able to evolve into Hisuian Sliggoo, but how about Ursaring?
How about Hisuian Growlithe? If somehow a Hisuian Growlithe is hacked into the game, can I use a fire stone to evolve it?
I understand that Goomy may not be able to evolve into Hisuian Sliggoo, but how about Ursaring?
How about Hisuian Growlithe? If somehow a Hisuian Growlithe is hacked into the game, can I use a fire stone to evolve it?
Ursaring, Stantler, Scyther cannot evolve into Ursaluna, Wyrdeer or Kleavor; they have a shared 'unknown' method that appears to exist as a place holder so some people think we'll get to evolve them properly when Home compatibility drops (or DLC).
Pokemon that had a normal starting point (Goomy, Rufflet, etc) cannot evolve into their Hisuian stages (Sliggoo, Braviary, etc).
Hisui Pokemon could, if you hacked them into the game, evolve into their next stages just fine. So for your example yes a Growlithe-H can evolve into Arcanine-H with a Fire Stone if hacked in. Those methods are all coded in...except for Qwilfish-H into Overqwil. For whatever reason that one is in the same bin as the U/W/K trio.
Iirc someone already checked this earlier in the thread, and the result was that unless holding anything it'd produce the base Fighting form
There are animations for at least the starters that seem to be rare/hard to see. This post claims only viewable during team star base rushes:
Sprig line's look great.
Sprig line's look great.
Not sure why I was so set on the DLC just adding tutors, when it would fit so well to introduce more TMs and TM materials for returning pokémon.
39 new TMs would bring the total to 210, which is a multiple of three that's also rather even.
By the looks of it, each mon has 3 animations during the Team Star Training sessions: one is a generic attack animation, while the other two seem to happen during these sessions only (which, as you rightfully said, makes little sense; why would they model custom animations for every single mon and only use them in a single scenario?).
For example, Gallade's are: skyward battlecry (special attack animation #1), side glance to both sides (TST exclusive), right shoulder stretch (also TST exclusive)
Meanwhile every other animation that plays during Let's Go / Picnics are: skyward battlecry (again), small bow (interact), kneel and sleep, angry negation (from pokeamie, triggered when commanded to autobattle a shiny or when in the water), shake (when you are washing him). I have not seen any of the TST animations in these situations
I wonder if they are meant to play in some other unknown situation and / or the fact that they don't is an oversight (very possible considering the current state of SV
)You say that, yet there's actual sleeping animation for every pokemon due to pic nic and they don't play in battle when they're asleep...
(They did fix the eyes not closing bit, at least)