Terrakion cannot switch into anything Mamoswine uses except Stone Edge or Stealth Rock, since Rock does not resist Ice.
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Terrakion cannot switch into anything Mamoswine uses except Stone Edge or Stealth Rock, since Rock does not resist Ice.
Sheer Force Conk
CB Terrakion
CB Terrakion
Dice's Forretress
Geroge Eliot's Jirachi
we are allowed to disagree with the specifics of the sets later right? or are they set in stone (I am not a fan of t-spikes Forretress)
Geroge Eliot's Jirachi
we are allowed to disagree with the specifics of the sets later right? or are they set in stone (I am not a fan of t-spikes Forretress)
Yea go ahead.
Jirachi
LO Starmie
LO Starmie
Toxic Spikes Forretress
Life Orb Starmie
Jirachi
I've actually been using LO Starmie + Dnite recently and they work a pretty nice pair. If Joey hadn't nommed it, I would have. The two have good synergy.
Jirachi
I've actually been using LO Starmie + Dnite recently and they work a pretty nice pair. If Joey hadn't nommed it, I would have. The two have good synergy.
blitzlefan
shake it off!
Toxic Spikes Forretress
Life Orb Starmie
Life Orb Starmie
Trainer Au
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Toxic Spikes Forretress
Life Orb Starmie
Life Orb Starmie
Toxic Spikes Forretress
Life Orb Starmie
Life Orb Starmie
Re-nominating this because we still need a way to rip through Skarmory and Hippowdon so they can't phase out Dragonite. He also enjoys Forre's hazards and possibly a slow Volt Switch to bring him in safely.
Conkeldurr @ Life Orb
Trait: Sheer Force
EVs: 120 HP / 252 Atk / 136 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Ice Punch
- ThunderPunch
- Mach Punch
Props for this set go to Halcyon of Light I believe. While this guy may share little defensive synergy with Dragonite, it can wear down Nite's counters very effectively, as well as force many switches just like Nite, which will make hazards a must have for this team. He also fits the playstyle of Bulky Offense well, which although we decided not to choose one, I feel would work best for Nite (With Balance as a close second). It hits Ferrothorn, Heatran, and Scizor hard with Drain Punch and the Life Orb boost and recovery make it a very spammable move. It can hit Bulky Waters and Skarmory hard with Thunderpunch, and Ice Punch nails Landorus-T, Gliscor, and opposing Dragons. Mach Punch gives the team a form of priority, and allows him to finish off faster threats. The only common steel he struggles against is Jirachi, but it will be dented by a Drain Punch and Forretress is just set-up fodder for Nite, or can be beaten by Drain Punch spam. Another plus is that many teams choose to deal with Conkeldurr with scarfers that outspeed it, like Keldeo, so if they choose to Hydro Pump then Nite gets an easy Sub/DD off (I know this isn't always the case but it seems to happen a lot). It also can just rip apart many of the tier's popular stall cores.
This is my nomination to beat out both Skarmory and Hippowdon:
Rotom-W@Expert Belt
EVs: 136 HP/120 Spe/252 SpA
Ability: Levitate
Modest Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Signal Beam
- Pain Split
This set is able to deal with both Skarmory and Hippowdon as well as add synergy to the team. Volt Switch outright OHKOes Skarmory with momentum, while Hydro Pump OHKOes even the Mixed Wall Hippowdon set with the SpA investment and Expert Belt,
Pain Split is a good way to recover late-game and to deal with threats. Signal Beam helps hit Celebi HARD. Thanks to Homeslice and Subject 18 for their valuable contributions to the set.
Rotom-W@Expert Belt
EVs: 136 HP/120 Spe/252 SpA
Ability: Levitate
Modest Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Signal Beam
- Pain Split
This set is able to deal with both Skarmory and Hippowdon as well as add synergy to the team. Volt Switch outright OHKOes Skarmory with momentum, while Hydro Pump OHKOes even the Mixed Wall Hippowdon set with the SpA investment and Expert Belt,
Pain Split is a good way to recover late-game and to deal with threats. Signal Beam helps hit Celebi HARD. Thanks to Homeslice and Subject 18 for their valuable contributions to the set.
Signal Beam, HP Ice isn't that useful on Rotom-W because you're already hitting Ground/Flying types hard with Hydro Pump and it's a great lure to Celebi. Signal Beam can 2HKO the Specially Defensive version and most players will assume you're switching out so they can spam T-Wave/Leech Seed/Whatever. HP Ice would help deal with Dragons, but Rotom-W is bulky enough to take a hit and Volt Switch out, doing a good chunk and letting something else take care of it, something it wouldn't be able to do against Celebi for as much damage.
Just a nit-pick, but I always prefer Rotom-W with EBelt or Leftovers and WoW over Pain Split. But I guess that's also up to other people. If anything, EBelt helps in all the ways LO does (hitting what we want for SE damage) but without recoil, so I feel it's a better pick.
Just a nit-pick, but I always prefer Rotom-W with EBelt or Leftovers and WoW over Pain Split. But I guess that's also up to other people. If anything, EBelt helps in all the ways LO does (hitting what we want for SE damage) but without recoil, so I feel it's a better pick.
I agree with Homeslice here. Expert Belt would probably be the better item choice here. The extra Life Orb power is nice but it's wears down Rotom-W a bit to much for my liking and Pain Split isn't the most reliable form of recovery doesn't help with that either.
With Expert Belt we can run 136 HP / 252 SpAtk / 120 Spe Modest. Maxmize attacking power, outspeed Specially defensive Celebi and adding some bulk.
With Expert Belt we can run 136 HP / 252 SpAtk / 120 Spe Modest. Maxmize attacking power, outspeed Specially defensive Celebi and adding some bulk.
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