Thank you, Doug! I've been waiting for these! Also, holy eff venusaur gets a lot of usuage!
I really want to see Jumpluff and Gorebyss rise. It seems wherever Electrode goes, Gorebyss follows behind closely since it relies heavily on Electrode's rain.UU/NU Border:
Looking at where the two start to blend, remember, UU currently has 54, so anything above that is suspect to rise, and anything below is at risk of falling. Anything in the 'blend' region is at risk.
50: Miltank [Highest NU, will probobly rise (Thank Goodness)]
51: Regirock [UU, may fall, but will probobly stay put]
52: Electrode [NU, may Rise, a final kick to Rain Dance in NU]
53: Hitmonlee: [UU, may fall [As if NU needs more fighters]]
54: Jumpluff: [Currently NU, could go either way]
55: Nidoking: [UU, at risk, lowest UU]
56: Goyrebass: NU
About, Weavile and Heracross, it's actually crazy to think that the top 15 was once:I'm sure some of you know that I'm the biggest advocate for OU Claydol leads there is. If not, check the February lead statistics. :P
Glad to see Weavile and Electivire are still safely OU. They're terribly underrated for their usefulness. One is a certified dragon/revenge killer while the other is basically an insta-sweeper. What's not to like?
Heracross is inching dangerously close to UU. If it does make it there, I'll give it a week before it's banned. I've tried to use it in OU these days out of intrigue and it's still one of the best damn wall-breakers there is. I'm not sure why more people aren't using it.
Things really have changed...before 4th Gen, Kingdra wasn't OU. Vaporeon started out UU and moved up a tier every generation though it's probably capped at OU. Still, it's surprising the changes within a generation.About, Weavile and Heracross, it's actually crazy to think that the top 15 was once:
1. Blissey
2. Garchomp
3. Gyarados
4. Gengar
5. Tyranitar
6. Salamence
7. Weavile
8. Heracross
9. Metagross
10. Skarmory
11. Forretress
12. Starmie
13. Infernape
14. Bronzong
15. Cresselia
Infact, it's weird to think that Cresselia was once #9, but now it's not even standard!
Yes. Infact it's strange to think that all those years ago, when I first came to Smogon, Pokemon such as Venusaur, Tauros, Rhydon, Dusclops, Exeggutor, Magneton, Regice, Slaking, Gardevoir, Charizard and Claydol were standard!Things really have changed...before 4th Gen, Kingdra wasn't OU. Vaporeon started out UU and moved up a tier every generation though it's probably capped at OU. Still, it's surprising the changes within a generation.
About, Weavile and Heracross, it's actually crazy to think that the top 15 was once:
1. Blissey
2. Garchomp
3. Gyarados
4. Gengar
5. Tyranitar
6. Salamence
7. Weavile
8. Heracross
9. Metagross
10. Skarmory
11. Forretress
12. Starmie
13. Infernape
14. Bronzong
15. Cresselia
Infact, it's weird to think that Cresselia was once #9, but now it's not even standard!
Yea...Jumpluff in NU is quite surprising considering its places in the generations before. It was OU in Gen2 and BL in Gen3 so let's only bring it down one tier and end Gen4 with Jumpluff being UU.Thanks a lot Doug! Been waiting for this for what feels like years.
I believe the cut-off point is 3.4%. Using that, and assuming no major shifts in April, let's see...
Heracross: Will stay OU (thankfully, we don't need that in UU)
Umbreon: Could go either way. Very slightly above the cutoff in March, but quite a bit below it in February. Time will tell.
Miltank: Will move up to UU.
Hitmonlee: Will stay UU.
Electrode: Will move up to UU.
Jumpluff: Will move up to UU (haven't seen this one at all; to be honest this surprises me quite a bit)
Nidoking: May fall to NU. Tough case to call.
Nidoqueen: NU. Not even close.
Drifblim: Again, NU easily.
Yep, infact I'm seeing some quite shocking things looking through the old stats. Deoxys-E was originally quite close to UU!!Wait wait wait, there was a time when Garchomp was in Standard and it wasn't Number 1? It wasn't at 70 odd %?
I mean, the first stats I could find in the archive, July 08, had this order:
Garchomp
Gengar
Gyarados
Lucario
Heatran
Deyoxys - E
Blissey
Metagross
Heatran
Tyranitar
So where you're pulling stats from is beyond me, because Garchomp was #1 right up until he was banned.
I found this thread where we all discussed the November 2007 statistics.
Yeah, Umbreon does seem to fluctuate a lot.Thanks a million Doug, you rock!
Nothing much to say except that I would be extremely mad if Umbreon shifted to OU.
Yup, this will definately happen as it really beats all of the other leads in the current metagame.Look for Machamp to hop into top 10 leads by next month.
It could go into BL but the problem is that BL is so small that it's hardly a tier and everything in BL is pretty much stuck to being used in OU. If 35+ Pokemon are in BL, I guess it could be a full-fledged tier. Right now we have 9. That's nowhere close to running on its own. OU has 49 and UU has 54.Yeah, Umbreon does seem to fluctuate a lot.
Well, I suppose a lot of other Pokemon fluctuate in a similar fashion, but Umbreon happens to be doing it around the standard/UU cut-off.
Completely wrong. BL is a banlist for UU. Its not a tier and no place for a pokemon like Umbreon.It could go into BL but the problem is that BL is so small that it's hardly a tier and everything in BL is pretty much stuck to being used in OU. If 35+ Pokemon are in BL, I guess it could be a full-fledged tier. Right now we have 9. That's nowhere close to running on its own. OU has 49 and UU has 54.