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Data Usage-Based Tier Update for August 2023
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Finally Treads and Forry dropped... also RU got fucked lmao
MY COMMENTS
- Gardevoir and Gallade dropped. Wasn’t it last month Gardevoir dominated RU and then rose to UU? And many months earlier, it fell to RU, and then right back to UU again? Damn, this thing has jumped around a lot.
-Very surprised by greninja getting past 7% in OU after the huge nerfs, I expected cresselia to rise, which it did (honestly I didn’t even know it dropped, doesn’t it get used a lot?). The other two OU risers were nothing I cared about, so I won’t talk about.
-As for how UU will change with the drops and rises, I wonder how Donphan will do (given just how much it rose in usage). First off, Meow and Gren greatly limited donphan’s potential, with fast Supereffective hits that threaten an ohko. Cresselia also did this to an extent, despite its low usage, because of levitate and all that junk. Also, with less big dark types around, skeledirge and Ceruledge will rise and quaquaval will become less used as a strong fighting type. Skeledirge and ceruledge both are hit hard by EQ, and quaquaval is both spinning competition and does damage with aqua step, so donphan benefits from all these changes.
On the other hand, the dropping of treads means donphan will have serious competition with its future form. Didn’t mean to make this about donphan, but it’s in an interesting position.
-Finally, WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
- Gardevoir and Gallade dropped. Wasn’t it last month Gardevoir dominated RU and then rose to UU? And many months earlier, it fell to RU, and then right back to UU again? Damn, this thing has jumped around a lot.
-Very surprised by greninja getting past 7% in OU after the huge nerfs, I expected cresselia to rise, which it did (honestly I didn’t even know it dropped, doesn’t it get used a lot?). The other two OU risers were nothing I cared about, so I won’t talk about.
-As for how UU will change with the drops and rises, I wonder how Donphan will do (given just how much it rose in usage). First off, Meow and Gren greatly limited donphan’s potential, with fast Supereffective hits that threaten an ohko. Cresselia also did this to an extent, despite its low usage, because of levitate and all that junk. Also, with less big dark types around, skeledirge and Ceruledge will rise and quaquaval will become less used as a strong fighting type. Skeledirge and ceruledge both are hit hard by EQ, and quaquaval is both spinning competition and does damage with aqua step, so donphan benefits from all these changes.
On the other hand, the dropping of treads means donphan will have serious competition with its future form. Didn’t mean to make this about donphan, but it’s in an interesting position.
-Finally, WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
How the fuck does Scizpor have lower usage than kleavor
Greninja chads stay winning
Sandy shocks higher than heatran, pardon me, but *in medic tf2 voice* what ze fak
Hoopa-u better not drop next month, or chomp, or uu's fucked
I forgot ciderace existed
Who is using azu, ive seen no one use azu
In ubers and uu, skeledirge chads be winner
Tauros is having his best generation since number one
Gallade is waiting to see how long it will take to be banned
in cant wait to see how dlc effs up competetive
https://www.pokeos.com/dex/?f=dlcleak&page=1&sv=true
Greninja chads stay winning
Sandy shocks higher than heatran, pardon me, but *in medic tf2 voice* what ze fak
Hoopa-u better not drop next month, or chomp, or uu's fucked
I forgot ciderace existed
Who is using azu, ive seen no one use azu
In ubers and uu, skeledirge chads be winner
Tauros is having his best generation since number one
Gallade is waiting to see how long it will take to be banned
in cant wait to see how dlc effs up competetive
https://www.pokeos.com/dex/?f=dlcleak&page=1&sv=true
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good question
You're right, it belongs in PU until PU decides it's not good enough to be there.
I’ll try RU with sun just for fun. And Ttar :( my second fav mon
Is there a way I can see the full ZU usage stats?
https://www.smogon.com/stats/2023-07/
On this index, you can find the gen9zu stats. I use the 1630 stats as the reference, as other lower tiers do.
https://www.smogon.com/stats/2023-07/gen9zu-1630.txt
Everyone is taking about how ttar is now fallen to ru but nobody talking about who is the new king of ou and most consistent Pokémon that is now without a doubt zapdos I like zapdos tbh it is one of my favorites and I just can’t comprehend that it has more usage then lando-t heatran ttar and garchomp bro zapdos is even in top ten and I am surprised yea it is not new to see zapdos being good but to the point that it is better then lando-t that is just surprising
I've sometimes read in the tiering policy forum that tournament usage should be accounted for when making the tiers so this is a small research post to show what difference it would make comparing July OU usage and WCoP usage.
UU according to ladder but OU according to WCoP:
OU according to ladder but UU according to WCoP:
It's not really a surprise to see that tournament usage is less spread across different pokemons thus leads to more drops, and on the other hand that there is a bias towards "spammable" archetypes (rain, trick room, ...) in ladder usage.
UU according to ladder but OU according to WCoP:
OU according to ladder but UU according to WCoP:
It's not really a surprise to see that tournament usage is less spread across different pokemons thus leads to more drops, and on the other hand that there is a bias towards "spammable" archetypes (rain, trick room, ...) in ladder usage.
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