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The Everything NFL Thread - Offseason 2010
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Peppers was a STAPLE of that defense. But you are right, you still do have the best corner in the division and the best rushing attack (Though Atlanta's will be back to prominence when we get Turner and Norwood back next season.) Well, Smith struggled a little bit last year. Did you see the Falcons/Panthers game last year? (Jason Elam...GAH!) When Smith went against Chris Houston, whom the Falcons just traded away for a 6th rounder, he was not completed on. Smith used to WRECK Houston in the past. He can bounce back though. I just want to see how the backend of that Panthers defense is going to compete without Peppers up front. Gamble, IMO, is the only blue chip talent. Godfrey and Marshall are unimpressive.
I start an little debate: Which team has made the most significant improvements? In my opinion, three teams should be in considerations: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, and New York Jets.
The Bears were able to make significant improvements on day one with Julius Peppers and Chester Taylor as the main additions. They definitely got the best player in free agency and will definitely be improved; however, the Lions completely renovated their defensive line with Vandenbosch leading the way. With Suh or McCoy, they will be my pick for most improved team, most likely a 8-8 or better record.
I think the most improved team is the New York Jets. First of all they had restrictions placed upon them for being in the final four teams, so they could only sign players equal to the salaries of players they cut from their team; therefore, they cut running back Jones and corner Sheppard, two expendable players. To fill the void at corner, they traded for faded star Cromartie from the San Diego Chargers. I believe with Rex Ryan's defense, Cromartie will regain form and form the ultimate duo at corner. They also traded their safety Kerry Rhodes for draft picks. I think with the restrictions they had, they now have the opportunity to make another splash when the time is right. They improved from a strong defense to an INSANE DEFENSE.
The Bears were able to make significant improvements on day one with Julius Peppers and Chester Taylor as the main additions. They definitely got the best player in free agency and will definitely be improved; however, the Lions completely renovated their defensive line with Vandenbosch leading the way. With Suh or McCoy, they will be my pick for most improved team, most likely a 8-8 or better record.
I think the most improved team is the New York Jets. First of all they had restrictions placed upon them for being in the final four teams, so they could only sign players equal to the salaries of players they cut from their team; therefore, they cut running back Jones and corner Sheppard, two expendable players. To fill the void at corner, they traded for faded star Cromartie from the San Diego Chargers. I believe with Rex Ryan's defense, Cromartie will regain form and form the ultimate duo at corner. They also traded their safety Kerry Rhodes for draft picks. I think with the restrictions they had, they now have the opportunity to make another splash when the time is right. They improved from a strong defense to an INSANE DEFENSE.
They will improve that's for sure, but + 500....are you serious :S??? Yes Stafford is an upcoming weapon and Johnson is an impressive receiver but aside from Stafford's natural second year growth, their anemic offense (well they scored a fuckload of points against some bad teams but it's still pretty terrible) hasn't done anything to improve. Improved defense will put the Lions back on the right track, but unless they somehow land a top class receiving or rushing threat the second round or so, or one of their receivers not named Johnson will have a breakout season (lol) they are still doomed to mediocrity...regardless of improvement.
Their offense isnt complete trash. Stafford is growing, Kevin Smith is still a decent running back, and Calvin Johnson is still a monster. That O-line needs to improve, but they can live with an average offense as long as their D gets better. They also have the draft to fill those holes, so id say the Lions win at least 5 this season, but id say around 6-7 wins for the season is a pretty good improvement for them
The Lions MUST draft Russel Okung #2.
The Lions have:
potential stud QB
stud WR
potential stud TE
good young RB
What they don't:
stud offensive line
Okung goes a long way towards making that happen. He moves Backus either to RT or LG, while giving Stafford an elite pass protector for his blind side. That D is a long way from being elite no matter what but that offense is very, very close.
I love what my team has done. The Redskins are making smart, low-key signings, not overpaying for guys like Peppers and Kampman, and just being smart. Shanahan is a top 10 coach of all time, and Bruce Allen has won as a GM in both Oakland and Tampa Bay.
lol ben rapistberger (granted, the nevada shit was 100000% bullshit - who files a civil case on RAPE lol, and the jury's still out on this)
The Lions have:
potential stud QB
stud WR
potential stud TE
good young RB
What they don't:
stud offensive line
Okung goes a long way towards making that happen. He moves Backus either to RT or LG, while giving Stafford an elite pass protector for his blind side. That D is a long way from being elite no matter what but that offense is very, very close.
I love what my team has done. The Redskins are making smart, low-key signings, not overpaying for guys like Peppers and Kampman, and just being smart. Shanahan is a top 10 coach of all time, and Bruce Allen has won as a GM in both Oakland and Tampa Bay.
lol ben rapistberger (granted, the nevada shit was 100000% bullshit - who files a civil case on RAPE lol, and the jury's still out on this)
Does anyone else think that Tebow would be a good fit for the Vikings? He'd have a veteran QB to learn from (Favre), a great defense to support him, and he has a lot of chemistry with Percy Harvin.
I dunno, even he's an upgrade I'd say over anyone on their current roster. He just has to re-learn that interceptions are bad.
Despite the restrictions on these teams, the Jets prove that moves can still happen, as they just picked up LT to fill the void of Thomas Jones. With Green and LT leading the way, the Jets might beat out the Patriots for division title.
I am serious about the Lions. The Dolphins went from 2-14 to 11-5 and playoffs. Why can't the Lions with a restructured defensive line and an improving quarterback?
The Browns are not going anywhere anytime soon.
Tebow with the Vikings: I can see that be a possibility, since Tebow has the leadership quality and the arm like Favre. But again the questions on Tebow leave it a question mark. I see Tavaris Jackson eventually leading the Vikings, more than Tebow (for now).
I am surprised by the lack of spending in an uncapped year. More and more teams are hesistating on spending for players. The most action came from the Bears with their massive day 1 signings. It's seems a bit odd to me.
The restrictions are hampering a bit of action, but the Jets prove you can still make moves. My big question is dealing with restricted free agents. Who do you guys see moving teams and who would grab them? (So far I know Marshall is probably heading out, but i'm not sure where)
I am serious about the Lions. The Dolphins went from 2-14 to 11-5 and playoffs. Why can't the Lions with a restructured defensive line and an improving quarterback?
The Browns are not going anywhere anytime soon.
Tebow with the Vikings: I can see that be a possibility, since Tebow has the leadership quality and the arm like Favre. But again the questions on Tebow leave it a question mark. I see Tavaris Jackson eventually leading the Vikings, more than Tebow (for now).
I am surprised by the lack of spending in an uncapped year. More and more teams are hesistating on spending for players. The most action came from the Bears with their massive day 1 signings. It's seems a bit odd to me.
The restrictions are hampering a bit of action, but the Jets prove you can still make moves. My big question is dealing with restricted free agents. Who do you guys see moving teams and who would grab them? (So far I know Marshall is probably heading out, but i'm not sure where)
Unless the Lions draft Russel Okung, they aren't going anywhere. The big difference between Detroit and Miami is A) Bill Parcells and B) Jake Long
So far Lions don't have that stable leadership nor do they have a franchise left tackle. You have to be able to A) Pass the ball B) Protect the QB and C) Get to the QB to win in this league. And yes I know I'm quoting Walterfootball almost word for word. We do have very similar opinions after all :)
Cmon dude, don't let your Falcon bias cloud your mind.
And uh buddy, what the hell are you talking about Chris Houston shutting down Steve Smith in the second game? He scored two freaking TDs! With Jake Delhomme as his QB! You're not really shutting anyone down if they're scoring the ball, don't you think? I'd also like to point out that Smitty averaged about 5 catches, 100 yards and a TD every 3/4 games, while Moore was under center. More specifically, his avgs would total to 76 catches, 1512 yards and 12 TDs in a 16 game season.
Just saying.
So far Lions don't have that stable leadership nor do they have a franchise left tackle. You have to be able to A) Pass the ball B) Protect the QB and C) Get to the QB to win in this league. And yes I know I'm quoting Walterfootball almost word for word. We do have very similar opinions after all :)
For some blue chip and unimpressive defenders they must have reaaaaallly over achieved to be the 4th best Passing Defense in the league looooool
Cmon dude, don't let your Falcon bias cloud your mind.
And uh buddy, what the hell are you talking about Chris Houston shutting down Steve Smith in the second game? He scored two freaking TDs! With Jake Delhomme as his QB! You're not really shutting anyone down if they're scoring the ball, don't you think? I'd also like to point out that Smitty averaged about 5 catches, 100 yards and a TD every 3/4 games, while Moore was under center. More specifically, his avgs would total to 76 catches, 1512 yards and 12 TDs in a 16 game season.
Just saying.
I've heard that the Vikings are going after Leon Washington since the Jets signed LT now and probably wont re sign Washington. Id have to believe their only reason for signing him would be to add another weapon and give Farve another reason to stay for one more season
Uh...what? They let one "great" but old back go to pick up another recently not so great but old back. They possibly made a downgrade that they had no need to make (Jones gave them the chance to match an offer of less money than before).
Westbrook would be a far better weapon for Favre. Better blocker and pass catcher.
The Jets still need Washington in case LT falters; however, if LT is at least a "good" back or better, then he will have a good season, thanks to Shonne Green sharing the load plus the strong offensive line. LT is more versatile than Jones and had a past history of success versus the best season of Jones' career. LT has a better chance for success than Jones did.
Westbrook to the Vikings would be a good idea, thanks to the Childress connection and AP playing 1a running back and Westbrook playing 1b running back. Westbrook would make the Vikings even more potent on offense.
I give you the point on the offensive line of the Lions, but lets assume they play at least average (which is probably where they are at). Would you think they are at least 6-10 to 9-7 team then?
Westbrook to the Vikings would be a good idea, thanks to the Childress connection and AP playing 1a running back and Westbrook playing 1b running back. Westbrook would make the Vikings even more potent on offense.
I give you the point on the offensive line of the Lions, but lets assume they play at least average (which is probably where they are at). Would you think they are at least 6-10 to 9-7 team then?
Washington will be back on kick return ability alone. I think it'll be Brad Smith returning Kicks and Leon returning Punts. And isn't he either A) still signed or B) A restricted free agent?
Restricted free agent, despite having the franchise tag before. He will still play a role as a change of pace/wildcat type player, but I agree. He will be a return man.
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