Some people (including me), should just git gut.Seems like ppl in here want every mon in OU to be suspected
If you saw what the council has put on the radar (Dragonite, Espartha, Chi-Yu, Annihilape, Gholdengo, and Cyclizar), that's a very reasonable list.Seems like ppl in here want every mon in OU to be suspected
At least people isn't asking to ban SR anymore.Seems like ppl in here want every mon in OU to be suspected
I think the list is at least a little bit longer than that. Garg for one has already been confirmed (via Finch's sources) to be on the radar, and Chien-Pao was on the radar last time and I would be very surprised if it wasn't there again (not that I expect it to be banned). Outside of that, maybe Valiant and Roaring Moon have potential to appear, as they have in the past, though I don't think anyone cares to ban them at this point.If you saw what the council has put on the radar (Dragonite, Espartha, Chi-Yu, Annihilape, Gholdengo, and Cyclizar), that's a very reasonable list.
If Pao doesn't get ban this time I expect that all the hate towards Chi-Yu will be put on it. Shares most of Chi-Yu's traits, is faster and has access to priority which is a big deal for offense.I think the list is at least a little bit longer than that. Garg for one has already been confirmed (via Finch's sources) to be on the radar, and Chien-Pao was on the radar last time and I would be very surprised if it wasn't there again (not that I expect it to be banned). Outside of that, maybe Valiant and Roaring Moon have potential to appear, as they have in the past, though I don't think anyone cares to ban them at this point.
Nonetheless, there hasn't been a vote on these things in about a month so I agree it's not too many Pokemon. And aside from Chi-Yu, Cyclizar, and Annihilape, I'd be very surprised if any of them got QB'd.
Sources confirm Chien-Pao is present on the radar.Chien-Pao was on the radar last time and I would be very surprised if it wasn't there again
Chi-Yu and Chien-Pao are weak to Mach Punch, Both Breloom and Pawmot resist Sucker Punch but not Ice Shard for Breloom since it gets OHKOd by it against Choice Band variants. Pawmot takes about 58.7 - 69.3% from a Choice Band Ice Shard.because of all the Chi-Yus and other broken Pokémon running around, it's the last thing on the majority of people's mind. Do I think it should be suspected? Maybe down the line but there's at least 5-7 other suspects I got on my mind before that needs to happen.
Finch outright stated it's likely to be suspected or even quickbanned. There's nothing to doubt there.while the bird is pretty scary, I highly doubt it'l get suspected, let alone quickbanned, the meta has adapted to its presence with a good level of ease and it basically mandates support and often tera just to funcion.
The meta adapted very well to it that isn't even OU. Doubt it is getting banned, especially if Cyclizar gets banned.Finch outright stated it's likely to be suspected or even quickbanned. There's nothing to doubt there.
Also, Espathra is broken with tera and the meta hasn't adapted to it. Tera fighting/fairy invalidates it's wannabe checks
Espathra is on the radar, but I’d say it’s less likely to get quickbanned than other things listed such as Chi-Yu, Cyclizar, and Annihilape. Anything is possible of course though.Finch outright stated it's likely to be suspected or even quickbanned. There's nothing to doubt there.
Also, Espathra is broken with tera and the meta hasn't adapted to it. Tera fighting/fairy invalidates it's wannabe checks
Sources leakier than a broken faucet.Sources indicate Espathra is on the tiering radar.
Well suspect is a likely, and for quickban I mostly implied it's a possibility. Although I don't believe Espathra should be quickbanned (only thing I think should be considered for qb is Cyclizar)Espathra is on the radar, but I’d say it’s less likely to get quickbanned than other things listed such as Chi-Yu, Cyclizar, and Annihilape. Anything is possible of course though.
The only reason a couple of mons are still legal in OU was the suspect test taking forever. Now that it's over and the community voted to ban abusers of tera rather then the mechanic itself there is so much that needs to go.Seems like ppl in here want every mon in OU to be suspected
Bruh, more then just shed tail needs to be quickbanned lol. Like you can't seriously believe that Fish/Ape are healthy or skill based.Well suspect is a likely, and for quickban I mostly implied it's a possibility. Although I don't believe Espathra should be quickbanned (only thing I think should be considered for qb is Cyclizar)
I don't get this logic, Orthworm isn't as good because it lacks the speed and regenerator. Cyclizar with regenerator allows to bring safely set up sweepers more than once in a game, that is why people looks at it like busted.Bruh, more then just shed tail needs to be quickbanned lol
While not trying to burst your bubble, I'm under the impression that unlike Houndstone the move is shared by multiple mons and therefore qualifies for a ban of the move rather then the mon.I don't get this logic, Orthworm isn't as good because it lacks the speed and regenerator. Cyclizar with regenerator allows to bring safely set up sweepers more than once in a game, that is why people looks at it like busted.
The move itself isn't broken otherwise people would ask to ban Orthworm too, also don't see the point on banning just the move to keep Cyclizar, without shed tail there is noy a good reason to use it.
since the move is shared, it is theoretically allowed to be suspected, but first you have to prove that it is the piece that makes these mons broken and/or uncompetitive, so orthoworm has to give a similar level of pressure (even if not 1:1 w cyclizar). Personally, I'm not sure if orthrworm is nearly that good of a user of shed tail, but also I haven't played in a while so X_XWhile not trying to burst your bubble, I'm under the impression that unlike Houndstone the move is shared by multiple mons and therefore qualifies for a ban of the move rather then the mon.
That is exactly why I mentioned Orthworm, it isn't as problematic as Cyclizar because it lacks the trails that make Cyclizar + shed tail being on the radar. If shed tail alone were that OP both, Orthworm and Cyclizar, would be considered to be banned, not just the later.While not trying to burst your bubble, I'm under the impression that unlike Houndstone the move is shared by multiple mons and therefore qualifies for a ban of the move rather then the mon.
Why tf is there an NU leader? There’s no nuSources indicate that Finchinator's source is the NU Tier leader. Not sure why the NU Tier Leader knows so much about OU's council innerworks, but that's definitely possible.
Is anything truly real? Is this all a simulation?Why tf is there an NU leader? There’s no nu