Deck Knight
Blast Off At The Speed Of Light! That's Right!
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Based on the most recent discussion regarding CAP 6 Updates, I decided to table the idea until I could get the assessment of the community on several questions.
First, for a little history on CAP Pokemon is ASB:
In order to allow the CAP Pokemon in ASB, there were several problems. First, not all of the CAPs had anything close to resembling a pre-evolution process. As a matter of fact, the latter half of the generation 4 pre-evolutions have not been done yet at all. The most recent one finished was Breezi.
The dilemma there being, there had to be a way to fill in the gaps. So when we were starting up CAP Pokemon for Gen 4, I basically had people brainstorm up ideas, and the ideas I liked the most were implemented, along with new level-up movepools.
In Generation 5, Dream World abilities and new moves were added, and so it did not seem equitable to the CAPs if they did not receive updates like all of the traditional Pokemon. Thus, more threads were held, movepools revamped, and new moves added.
However, there was a lot of divergence in what people wanted, leading to a wide divergence in Gen 4 and Gen 5 level-up movepools. So another project was started to get them more in line and keep their level-up moves more consistent. In fact, elements of this project were never completed.
Additionally, because a lot of moves function differently in ASB than they do in-game, and because CAPs worked on limited VGM and Total Movepool space, many of the moves that have some level of use in ASB, but are not very useful in game like Vital Throw and Submission were rarely added to CAPs during their building process.
We are now entering Gen 6, and the game has developed and become more mature, with a much larger userbase. Therefore, since the CAPs were created in a democratic way I want our policy in ASB to be decided through our own form of representative leadership. Before deciding how broad this should be, I want our Council to discuss a few questions.
1. How should we handle non-canonical pre-evolutions?
This applies at this point to Privatyke, Collosshale, Nohface, Monohm, Duclohm, Protowatt, and Voodoll.
Only Privatyke and Monohm/Duclohm diverge little from their fully evolved forms. Whereas Colosshale, Nohface, Protowatt, and Voodoll are significantly different in either ability or aptitude from their fully evolved counterparts.
These will presumably be completed at some point in the future, but as each pre-vo currently has no canonical element to it, they are almost wholly invented, and several (Nohface in particular) have moves and strategies completely different from their evolved counterparts.
1a. Dream World / Hidden Abilities
These constitute a separate question on a similar premise, in that Generation 4 CAPs do not have this mechanism. Additionally, Generation 6 has added abilities or changed abilities to Pokemon that had them previously.
2. Should move updates include moves other than newly introduced moves in that generation?
Arguments can be made on both sides of this issue - for example Stunfisk picking up Water Gun in Generation 6 for the first time. At the same time, this makes each revamp a more time consuming process and much more subjective. Ultimately I want to arrive at a policy, because when a new generation hits we change our starting claims to adhere to the TMs of the new generation.
The current policy is that we revamp the CAPs of the most recent generation to have moves from all generations, except for the generation they come from, considered. This also plays into the fact that, again, ASB interpretations of moves can be significantly different from in-game counterparts.
We also update CAPs when a generation introduces new tutor moves, and do a quick update for each of the CAPs to allow them to adhere to the new prize claiming standard.
The final option (or two) is that we keep CAPs locked in their original generation with that generation's movepool, but that ultimately seems like a disservice. Or we could abolish CAP Pokemon from the game entirely.
Your assessments, please.