Yung Dramps
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While limited in capacity, trainer battles do still exist in this game. I imagine you could go off those for most questions about pvp interactions
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SPOILERS! Pokemon Legends: Arceus *Leak Thread*
- Thread starter DHR-107
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RoiDadadou
Banned deucer.
Fix Glaceon, and Lucario already has BP.New Moves for Mons
- Calm Mind, Baby Doll Eyes, Play Rough (no Calm Mind for Pichu)
- Energy Ball
- Acid Armor
- Mach Punch, Drain Punch (yes it never got this before)
- Power Shift
- Power Shift
- Baby Doll Eyes (Power Shift for Blissey)
- Acid Spray, Double Hit
- Power Shift
- Close Combat, Calm Mind, Psycho Cut
:glaceon - Calm Mind (Leafage for Leafeon, Power Shift for Umbreon, Magical Leaf for Sylveon)
- Calm Mind, Power Shift, Mystical Fire
- Moonblast, Mystical Fire
- Calm Mind
- Mud Bomb
- Gust
- Mud Bomb, Spikes (no Spikes for Gligar)
- Calm Mind, Outrage
- High Horsepower
- Baby Doll Eyes
- Power Shift
- Psyshield Bash
- Air Slash
- Extrasensory
- Aura Sphere, Recover, Ice Beam (Ralts/Kirlia/Gallade also get Ice Beam)
- Power Shift, Steel Beam (no Steel Beam for Nosepass)
- Aerial Ace
- Leech Life, Power Shift (only Dusknoir gets Power Shift)
- Baby Doll Eyes
- Headlong Rush, Sleep Powder
- Raging Fury
- Wave Crash, Baby Doll Eyes, Steel Beam, (Piplup/Prinplup also get Baby Doll Eyes)
- Giga Impact
- Absorb
- Play Rough
- Power Shift
- Power Shift, Steel Beam (Shieldon also gets Steel Beam)
Steel Beam
- Recover
- Play Rough
- Stun Spore, Sleep Powder, Draining Kiss, Double Edge
- Hydro Pump
- Extrasensory, Mystical Fire, Power Shift (no Power Shift for Drifloon)
- Double Edge, Mach Punch
- Double Edge, Nasty Plot
- Hex
- Softboiled, Calm Mind, Baby Doll Eyes, Fairy Wind, Draining Kiss, Double Edge
- Hurricane, Play Rough, Power Shift
- Extrasensory
- Bite, High Horsepower, Giga Impact
- Bullet Punch (Mach Punch for Lucario)
- High Horsepower, Mud Bomb
- Earth Power, Close Combat
- Leech Life
- Roost
- Roost, Double Edge
- Mystical Power, Hypnosis, Double Hit, Power Shift
- Mystical Power, Recover, Double Hit
- Mystical Power, Double Hit, Power Shift
- Power Shift
- Lunar Blessing, Recover, Power Shift
- Take Heart, Confusion, Zen Headbutt, Moonblast
- Leafage, Sleep Powder, Recover
- Quick Attack
- Recover, Poison Powder, Baby Doll Eyes
- Wave Crash
- Quick Attack, Twister, Double Edge
- Bleakwind Storm, Twister
- Spark, Wildbolt Storm, Twister, Power Shift
- Crunch, Sandsear Storm, Twister
- Shelter, Hydro Pump, Acid Spray, Water Gun
- Ice Shard, Crunch,
- Magical Leaf
So, what Power Shift doing now?
Yung Dramps
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Called it, mostly :p
I wonder whether it prioritises immunity over resistance at all. I can't think of any specific examples off the top of my head, but let's say there's a type that's immune to one of the opponent's types and neutral vs the other, vs another type which resists both, which would it choose?
I think Gastrodon already had Hydro Pump from Gen 8. I was updating my own document and I saw it already had it.
So only thing I didn't get was what to do in the event a tie. I really thought it'd just stick to one type (based on internal order) rather than choosing one at random.
So, if I understand correctly, the only scenarios I think it might pick Ghost instead of Dark would be against Fighting/Psychic, Bug/Psychic, and Poison/Psychic. The latter 2 might be tied with Fire and Ground?
Ice might only ever be chosen for 4x weak Pokemon?
Yung Dramps
awesome gaming
Yup! The starters you didn't pick will be present in the distortions
Also, Play Rough is compatible with the Pikachu line in SS. Funnily enough, Calm Mind was also previously available to Pikachu and Kantonian Raichu exclusively in LGPE of all things (likely to make up for Nasty Plot’s absence). They even left Pichu out of learning Calm Mind since it wasn’t in LGPE. I forget, is Nasty Plot absent in this game as well? If so, that could explain the return of Calm Mind compatibility for Pikachu and Kantonian Raichu.
Yung Dramps
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Nope, Nasty Plot still exists but for some reason the Raichu family can't learn it anymore in this game specifically
I would expect Poison/Psychic to choose Dark because of the immunity to Psychic, but you're right, Bug/Psychic would work as a test case because Bug is super effective against Dark. It's a bit different to Fighting/Psychic because Ghost is outright immune to fighting.
It would make sense to prioritise "no weaknesses" over one type being immune though.
I feel like a list of what type Legend Plate Arceus will become against every existing Pokemon would be a useful resource. I might write one up once we're 100% sure of the logic. (EDIT: Actually just a type chart like table would probably work better.)
Wondering how it would work od abilities would be in the game,e.g. would Fighting against Heat Rotom it would become Ground.
In the distortions? Wdym?
Yung Dramps
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Basically in the game there are these "distortions" that pop up randomly around the world. They're these big purple bubbles that contain stronger than normal mons including the stragglers that wouldn't make sense to be roaming Hisui normally including the starters as mentioned, the sinnoh fossils, porygon and og sneasel. Rotom can actually be encountered normally surprisingly enough although it's apparently quite rare
At least at the moment, it most likely can't parse abilities/Air Balloon/Magnet Rise because none of them are in Legends. If we're basing it on what the enemy AI can handle, it might be capable of recognizing guaranteed immiunities like items/used moves, maybe even mons with Levitate in all ability slots, but probably nothing more complex.
Tbh that's a surprisingly optimal algorythm.
Honestly i think the funniest part would be playing lottery in the latter case, though.
I don't know if this has been mentioned earlier in the thread, but apparently Sunshine Cherrim has a higher BST than Overcast Form in PLA.
https://pastebin.com/BU9809Pq
https://pastebin.com/BU9809Pq
Basically, emulating the boost from Flower Gift but without the ability.
Yung Dramps
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Any other Pokemon stat buffs of note? (rip kricketune, lumineon and carnivine)
edit: ok yeah i dont think there's anything. I've looked through Phione, Dustox/Beautifly, Wormadam/Mothim, Unown and the aforementioned and none of em got shit. Looks like no notable stat buffs unfortunately cri
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Yep those are exact x1.5 boosts to attack & special defense.
Interesting mechanics information if true. ELs seem pretty simple and transparent (apparently you can get it for mass releasing, also like candy), we see the Home(?) ball, and size is a thing too though I wonder if 0 is smaller than normal or just the base.
I like it. An exact 1.5x boost to base stats might not exactly align with a 1.5x stat boost in the games, but in this game where bases seem more important and stat stages might be less impactful, it might work out better for Cherrim.
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I guess it is just for Sunshine Cherrim due to the removal of abilities. Maybe if any of the Pure/Huge Power mons were in the game, then they would have gotten similar boosts as well?