Did you even read your post? You basically said this looked like a real OU tier, but it would look better with Garchomp. Did you forget that a lot of Pokemon used now would be inviable with Garchomp in the metagame? So the tier list would shrink back down by a handful of Pokemon.
It has slightly better SAtk and Speed (although the slightly better speed makes a big difference), Azelf gets Flamethrower and T-Bolt as strong covering moves and while it doesn't get Focus Blast, I hate Focus Blast, the accuracy is just too low for such a fragile Pokemon, better to go with HP Fighting or nothing in my opinion.
T-Bolt isn't all that great on Azelf, but Charge Beam on Zam is amazing. Charge Beam the Blissey switch in, then 2HKO it with Focus Blast! (hoping it doesn't miss + you get boost)
It hasn't been tested yet. We wouldn't ban an alternate form to a BL Pokemon right off the bat. Skymin can potentially be moved to Ubers. It all depends on how the test goes.
T-bolt is much more reliable, and helps against quite a few Pokemon: take the Blissey situation: Charge Beam has a 63% (when counting 90% accuracy) chance of boosting SAtk and Focus Blast has 70% chance each hit. That is a 30.87% chance of that strategy working...
Rotom-Cut: 2719
Rotom-Freeze: 2042
Rotom-Heat: 6854
Rotom-Spin: 1644
Rotom-Wash: 4430
Total: [B]17689[/B]
The reason why Rotom-Appliance is not OU is that some players used a team containing all Rotom forms. This would make Rotom have 6 usages in one match, which is clearly not what we want. Until the server has in place something that disallows you from using more than Pokemon form in one team (be it Rotom, Deoxys, Giratina, Shaymin or what have you), we can't count Rotom usages correctly.
You're ignoring the fact that Smogon changed the tiering system after Garchomp was banned. You basically said that this is a larger OU group then before when it was in fact calculated on an entirely different basis, that basis being to make OU larger than it was before.
Dex entry as in Pokedex? I don't think Nintendo considers it uber, otherwise it would be banned from the battle tower.... I lolose to it often in Wifi battle rooms.
I think he meant in the Smogon Pokedex. There are a lot of references to Garchomp being an OU threat both in his page and in numerous other pages.
Won't this have implications on the UU Metagame for the time being?
We're not fooling anyone. The Policy Review thread is there for everyone to read and to see. It's not like I kept this information undercover or something, lol.
Really, you can't stress this enough. If nothing else, if nothing else (yeah right), the discussions make for excellent food-for-thought.
Comparing the suspect ladder and the OU ladder is only slightly more fair than comparing the current OU list with a previous one. There is no way a suspect test ladder will ever be less centralised than an OU ladder because they generally feature about a tenth of the total battles.
So, you're saying Shaymin and Shaymin-S will have separate usages (as expected), but that they can't be used on the same team? That's what I was talking about. They might be alternate forms, but they're as different as, say, Meganium and Venusaur. I won't mention DDmence and Specsmence because, while those two play totally different, they are, for the game coding, the same pokémon, with the same Base Stats, typing, sprite, etcetera. Shaymin and Shaymin-S might be the "same" when you consider the method to obtain one of them, but once you look even at its Base Stats, you see the difference. They're like Scyther and Scizor. The difference is that they share the same Pokédex number.
