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Project VGC Teambuilding Competition - Week 15 (almost here) - Building (undetermined)
- Thread starter Bananers
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That wraps up the building period, now it's voting time. We will be voting for 9 teams maximum and 5 minimum.
Team A by shadowurshifu
Team A by shadowurshifu
Team B by AaPokemon
Team C by Gfazzo
Team D by TechPug VGC
https://pokepast.es/9662c648d3911f72
I know what your thinking, "this isn't VGC 2017" and you're right it is not. the core of p2 steela marowak and tapu koko was very common in the ol days of vgc2017 so I thought to myself how can I make that core work in todays format. Marowaks ability in lightning rod allows celesteela to not worry about super effective electric type attacks meaning most of the time celesteela is free to set up a leech seed and become very annoying for other players to deal with.
The main combo of the team, as I explained in the beginning celesteela and Marowak were a very good duo in vgc2017 with maros lightning rod ability being able to redirect electric type attacks that celesteela doesnt appreciate. Marowak does absurd amounts of damage while holding the thick club. Marowaks job on the team is to help set up steela for the end game where its opponents are weakened so it can set up leech seeds and stall out the opponent. Marowak checks mons like zapdos and thundurus which are a real pain in the rear for celesteela. Steela becomes very annoying once it gets a leech seed up in the late game its incredible defensive stats along with typing make it very difficult to take down without electric type attacks.
Good ol p2, can never go wrong with it its insanely bulky and if your able to get a spatk boost with download it does good damage with ice beam. The thought process behind choosing p2 as my tr setter was "I need a mon who can hit landorus and garchomp" Porygons ice beam scares those 2 off quite easily. The 4th move on p2 is always a toss up I tend to like using ally swithc or eerie impulse. I decided on ally switch because I thought it'd be funny to lead p2+maro into spectrier/dragapult mus and ally switch t1 while my opp goes for a max phantasm into the marowak slot, thus giving me a free shot to ohko the spectrier/dragapult with a max phantasm of my own."
To round of the core I added tapu koko as Marowak and porygon2 don't really like facing down either urshifu form. Tapu koko destroys both forms with ease being able to outspeed the 2 and hit them with super effective attacks. Tapu koko also helps us match up better against tapu fini who otherwise could give the team a bit of trouble. The 4th move on koko was kind of a toss up I couldnt decide between electro web/volt switch or taunt. i decided to go taunt help vs pesky mons like amoongus and other redirectors along with being able to stop my opponents trick room set up most of the time
Would it really be a gfazzo team without mienshao? Mienshao provides the team with fake out support and the ability ohko incineroar who poses quite a threat to both marowak and celesteela. Yes I'm probably aware that urshifu would be a better choice in this slot but I couldn't pass up the chance to put one of my all time favorite mons onto the team. Mienshao speed tier is very helpful being able to outspeed urshifu. I felt the team wanted a safe way to get tr up along with a helping hand user to better help our dynmax mons secure kos.
Another personal favorite of mine, Garchomp and Celesteela cover eachother almost too perfect being able to hit electric types for super effective damage and switch into fire type attacks that celesteela normally wouldn't wanna take. As u can probably tell from most of my teams Garchomp+Mienshao is one of my favorite combos being able to brush off an intimidate by giving garchomp a coaching boost and then doing so again gives garchomp the ability to just steamroll thru teams.
252 SpA Life Orb Kingdra Helping Hand Max Geyser vs. 244 HP / 148+ SpD Eviolite Porygon2 in Rain: 153-183 (80.1 - 95.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ Atk Thick Club Marowak-Alola Helping Hand Max Flare vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Dynamax Glastrier: 458-540 (110.6 - 130.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ Atk Thick Club Marowak-Alola Helping Hand Max Rockfall vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Dynamax Zapdos: 404-476 (121.6 - 143.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Mienshao Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 116 Def Incineroar: 192-228 (95 - 112.8%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
I had a lot of fun making this, hope you guys enjoy!
Team E by Duck-Monke
Yes this is a team. Does it work, yes it does and heres the paste. https://pokepast.es/61accce9f0824aac
Looking at this team i bet you might think i'm joking, but for whoever knows my name, being TechPugVGC or NitePug you know that even if I might have a dumb idea ill make it work, and those dumb ideas have made me been shown in multiple Youtube videos, some of which you may of watched. So as much as this might look like I don't know what I'm doing at all in teambuilding, I am, and ill gladly participate in more of these, trying to place first.
Yeah. As you saw in the paste there was a lot of weird things, Like Gmax Snorlax for example, but why do I have it here. Ill be honest, it has no important niche to my team, except that, its there. Now if you looked closer it had 2 interesting things going on with it. It has Self-Destruct and Custap berry. First off, If i where to belly drum turn one, I can do 2 things. Number 1, I could max Snorlax with +6 attack hitting enemy pokemon EXTREMELY hard or Number 2 if my Redirection dies, I could use explosion which then leads into INSANE DAMAGE, like STUPIDLY INSANE damage.
Why Spectrier, and to that I say, because it pairs well with snorlax as well with Celesteela. Back to the Snorlax thing, If I where to Self-Destruct snorlax and I had spectier on the field, well I could max it, mabye picking up a KO if the enemy pokemon has a sash (But if they dont its worthless, so most of the time i go for option 2 which is nasty plot after snorlax killed everything on the field, then max next turn doing ALOT of damage.
Lando doesn't have a huge role really. It's there for the sun match up, Intimidate and a fighting resist.
Celesteela, being the pokemon that I built this team around, then putting fun elements around it is like everyother basic offensive celesteela set. There is nothing that special about it, so some may argue its a snorlax team, when I actually started using Celesteela first because originally today I was gonna do something with Corviknight, but celesteela is just better so I was just gonna settle with that, then I found this fourm and here we are. However it is running the Power Herb which is pretty sick because i like chunking thundurus.
Interesting choice people told me when they saw this, But it has its place. First off Lando and incin are a problem for this team a bit, inclduing Urshifu-Single-Strike, so by adding Urshifu-Rapid-Strike, I kinda have a check for them
Do I even need to explain. Its for Redirection and Trick room Support.
Anyways this is my celesteela team, I hope you like it. Really am hyped for next week, hoping for a fun pokemon
Team F by Abhisdn417
Team G by Typhoeus200318Hello there
Celesteela and Garchomp; uhh idk what archetype this falls under
Hi, I built this team around the core of Celesteela and Garchomp because they form a very good offensive core. From there I included a Grimmsnarl for Fake Tears and dual screens support which makes Celesteela very bulky and very threatening to the opposing team. From there I included a Porygon2 to abuse Grimmsnarl's Fake Tears support and for speed control with Trick Room. Rotom-H for a better match up against Glastrier TR teams and to abuse Fake Tears further. And lastly since this team is rather weak to Water-types I included a Rillaboom to offensively pressure them and because m o n k e. Thats all I have to say about this team, thanks zeefable for helping me build it UwU.
Bye!
Team H by pinky tries to VGC
Hey Gamers ,I was super excited to see celesteela in week 4 as i had an idea for it so after a lot of consideration, hours of testing and help from some friends , I present to you Coal-Steela. Forgive me if this team is not as off meta or wonky as other teams but i have put a lot of work into this one and every EV ,Move and pokemon has been added with careful meta consideration.
https://pokepast.es/750507f0c8db5bf2
Celesteela
Celesteela:the Obvious focus for this week , Celesteela .The reasoning behind its pairing with coalossal was to cover some of coalossals worst mu's, namely Fini-CHomp,lum/av landorus,Mamoswine(with clef),TerraPult and tr sweepers like glastrier, Stakataka and Regirock .
It really surprised me how well celesteela covers so many of coalsproblems as well as providing a bulky ground immunity that doesnt immediately melt to opponents hard reads.
I opted for a life orb offensive celesteela , while the life orb chip might seem somewhat redundant on such a slowand bulky mon as steela ,the immediate damage output is absolutely woth it .
The ev spread is comparatively simple,but quite effective.252 SpAtk evs with a modestnature allow an insant damage output which grows only more powerful with its beast boost.100 speed ev's allow it to speed creep 100 speed incins to prevent partingshots and flare blitz before getting an attack off .It also outspeeds standard rilla boom andd fini sets afeter a speed boost.the rest of the ev's are dumped into hpwith 4 in def and spdef for optimization.
252+ SpA Life Orb Celesteela Max Airstream vs. 252 HP / 140+ SpD Incineroar: 121-142 (59.9 - 70.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Celesteela Max Overgrowth vs. 132 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Fini: 148-177 (91.3 - 109.2%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Celesteela Max Airstream vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-Therian: 165-196 (100 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Celesteela Max Steelspike vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Dynamax Glastrier: 252-299 (60.8 - 72.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Glastrier Max Hailstorm vs. +1 148 HP / 4 Def Dynamax Celesteela: 169-201 (44.2 - 52.6%) -- 20.7% chance to 2HKO
Coalossal
coalossal:The primary Dynamaxer of the team,Coal is self explanatory.Volcalith is broken and this set is simple 252/252 in SpA and speed with a modest nature.
iwanted max speed for the potential ties and a simple spread works wonders for it.
Dragapult
Dragapult: Coalossals main way of getting steam Engine boosts,Pult is a necessity i've implemented Wolfe's BUlkier version with helping hand over will-o-wisp as
will-o-wisp is much more unreliable in bo1 where the opposin landorus might have lum .Helping hand also helps Celesteela
steamroll games Quicker
.The rest of the set is standard with a colbur berry to alwys take urshifu hits and breaking swipe it down.
+2 252 SpA Moltres-Galar Max Darkness vs. 180 HP / 92 SpD Colbur Berry Dragapult through Light Screen: 139-164 (74.7 - 88.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Landorus-Therian Max Quake vs. 180 HP / 68 Def Dragapult: 153-180 (82.2 - 96.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Gmax Sucker Punch vs. 180 HP / 68 Def Colbur Berry Dragapult: 103-123 (55.3 - 66.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Tapu Fini Moonblast vs. 180 HP / 92 SpD Dragapult through Light Screen: 108-128 (58 - 68.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Urshifu-RS
Urshifu :the secondary coal proccer ,Urshifu is as good as ever , abusing rain from opposing max geysersand setting up coalossal.
rshifu is also an axcellent partner for steela ohko'ing threats like incineroar,rotom-h and other steels which steela has a tough time breaking through.
252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Dynamax Rotom-Heat on a critical hit: 186-222 (59.2 - 70.7%) -- approx. 2HKO
-1 252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 116 Def Incineroar on a critical hit: 198-240 (98 - 118.8%) -- approx. 93.8% chance to OHKO
Rillaboom
Rillaboom:Rillaboom is the bread and butter grass type for coal teams.ITs powerful grassy glides boosted by a miracle seed
and fake out pressure are extremely valuable in endgames.i opted for miracle seed as it feels like a nice middle ground beween
AV and choice band.The set is rounded off with knock off for p2 and dusclops and uturn for repositoning.
Incineroar
And thats the team.Incineroar :This set is probably the one that changed the most,but i finally settled on a nice anti sun spread .The atk investment allows it to ohko dynamax
venusaur in sun with a flare blitz as well as ohko non dynamaxed metagross .its spdef allows it to live two quakes from
sash venusaur.and the rest has been dumped into def to take lando and garchomp hits better.parting shot and fake out provide better positionin while taunt helps
shut down eerie inpulse users as well
60+ Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Dynamax Venusaur in Sun: 312-368 (100 - 117.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Venusaur Max Quake vs. 180 HP / 100 SpD Incineroar: 122-144 (63.2 - 74.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
-1 252+ Atk Landorus-Therian Max Quake vs. 180 HP / 156 Def Incineroar: 164-194 (84.9 - 100.5%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
-1 252 Atk Garchomp Max Quake vs. 180 HP / 156 Def Incineroar: 138-164 (71.5 - 84.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I also tested the team extensively on the ladder and was able to get 1450 rating .Here are some replays.
Thank you for reading the report and i hope u like it . :)
Team I (i) by YourwelcomthankHi, this is Pinky, and i'd like to introduce you to my Celestall team.
Firstly, this is the pokepaste of Yo.v2 ™: https://pokepast.es/0810d27b3af3ebde
Secondly, i will give a brief explanation of how the team works in general before explaining you the role of each pokemon. As you already understood, the team centralises around Celesteela and its ability to wear down opponents while recovering its own HP, having an impressive bulk and maintaining only two weaknesses: electric and fire. I personally single out three "game stages": debut, midgame and endgame. We will talk about those a lot throughout my article. So, in theory, all that u need to do for Celesteela to seal the deal is remove all pokemon that threaten our main pokemon, such as Glastrier, different Rotom forms, Thundurus, Cinderace, Entei, Coalossal and many other strong pokemon/cores. As u've noticed, there are plenty of threats to Celesteela. The team is built for resisting/killing/lowering offensive presence of these pokemon while setting up leech seeds and winning the endgame.
Now, let's get a full picture of the team.
Before we start, i want to explain why am i using Protect on all pokemon on my team? The answer is both simple and dedicated. Of course, to scout out your opponent's actions, to stall out different mechanic's turns (such as terrain, Dynamax, Trick Room and other), and also to gain a mental advantage over your opponent. For example, not everyone expects a Protect Incineroar. You can use that fact to bait your opponent into an action which will, probably, lose them the game or give you a chance to win using your opponent's misplay.
Shall we move on?
The Main support aka The Burn Spreader, Milotic
Milotic is used, well, as a support to Garchomp because of its ability Competitive, which punishes intimidaters who want to come in on Chomp, while boosting Milotic's own power, as it can be really effective against a non-careful trainer using the double intimidate core or stat-lowering max moves (max wyrmwind, max phantasm, max strike etc.). Scald is an incredibly useful move because of its 30% burn chance, which, with a hax god's blessing, can really cripple opponent's physical attackers upon switching (not only this way), while providing important chip damage (-6%) to opponent's bulky pokemon, which are hard to ohko (Dusclops, Moltres-g, Porygon-2 etc.). For example, a Celesteela vs burned Porygon-2 endgame will force Porygon to Recover because of tons of passive damage (12% from seeds + 6% from burn) combined with Celesteela's 120 BP Heavy Slam, therefore winning the PP war and as a result, a game. Milotic is also an incredibly bulky pokemon, with the spread i've developed being able to survive Metagross's +2 Max Quake, +2 Moltres-g's Airstream/Darkness, and afterwards being able to Haze. This is another role of Milotic on this team, as it allows you to disrupt your opponent's Weakness Policy strategies, therefore gaining a tactical advantage, as many players expect Milotic to be the Coil+Hypnosis set, but this is not the case for my team. Recover is used for general longevity, and i've already explained the importance of protect for this team above. In conclusion, Milotic is used for being a disruptive, bulky support pokemon which can also hit hard under special conditions.
Some useful calculations:
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Rillaboom Grassy Glide vs. 196 HP / 196+ Def Milotic in Grassy Terrain: 146-174 (74.8 - 89.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
+2 252+ SpA Moltres-Galar Max Airstream vs. 196 HP / 108 SpD Milotic: 154-183 (78.9 - 93.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Metagross Max Quake vs. 196 HP / 196+ Def Milotic: 147-174 (75.3 - 89.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
The Main Rotom Killer aka The Shark, Garchomp
Garchomp is simple. Kill all fire and electric types. Kill everything. Boost up yout SpDef with STAB Max Quakes! Chomp is chosen for it's immense power and ability to remove electric and fire types for Celesteela, while clearing opponent's team to limit switching, which can disrupt leech seed stall. Stone Edge is chosen over Rock Slide for more power out of Dynamax, and high crit ratio can help sometimes. Earthquake is chosen over Stomping Tantrum for incredible spamming ability when paired with Celesteela on the field. Even though Garchomp doesn't have any bulk investment besides 4 HP Evs, he is bulky enough to take 1 or 2 super effective moves. In conclusion, Chomp is used to get past pokemon with which other teammates have trouble dealing.
Some calcs:
+2 252+ Atk Metagross Max Steelspike vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Dynamax Garchomp: 261-307 (70.9 - 83.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ SpA Moltres-Galar Max Airstream vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Dynamax Garchomp: 232-274 (63 - 74.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Max Rockfall vs. 212 HP / 4 Def Dynamax Moltres-Galar: 208-247 (54.1 - 64.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
-1 252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Max Quake vs. 244 HP / 72 Def Incineroar: 198-234 (98.5 - 116.4%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO incredible :)
The Celesteela Defender aka Rat the Parahax, Raichu
Raichu is a very important part of the team. It is, obviously, a Lightning Rod pokemon, which supports Milotic and Celesteela, protecting them form super effective electric-type moves. It also offers incredible speed (110 isn't bad), Fake Out, which is an amazing tool, which is able to force your opponent into protecting mindgames, and generally pressure him hard enough to open a room for your teammate to attack/set up. Next important tool on Raichu is Nuzzle. I mainly use it when opponent doesn't have an intimidater on the team, and their team is built rather offensively (no long-paced strategies such as Trick Room and others based on set up), as an example i can refer to weather-based teams as they usually replace Incineroar for Entei, and Garchomp naturally outspeeds and OHKO's (in Venuzaur's case 2HKO's) all of weather-reliant attackers (Kingdra, Venusaur), but when weather is up they pose immediate threat to Chomp, and such cases are why I need Nuzzle on my Raichu, as it offers 100% accurate speed control, and can hinder other pokemon who pose threat to Garchomp (Dragapult, Kartana etc.), as them having their speed halved lets Chomp outspeed and OHKO them. Volt Switch is used mainly for momentum and tricky situations, such as using Max Quake into a Volt Switching into Celesteela Raichu baits opponent's Max turn. Protect is, once again, being used for mental advantage over opponent and general longevity (bad explanation, idk is i can even use a word "longevity" to describe a non-av Chu, lol), although some players expect Raichu to have protect nowadays. Focus Sash is the chosen item for giving Raichu "the second chance", as its bulk speaks to it, and for kamikaze switch-ins. In conclusion, Raichu is one of key pokemon both for supporting offense and defense.
There are no interesting calcs for Raichu, sadly.
The Ussr Boi aka Omfg Why is That Thing So Bulky, Celesteela
Celesteela is the star of the team, able to win literally any endgame if there is no Rotom-Heat/Regieleki/+2 Dynamaxed Glastrier, or the team's player didn't misled/misplayed heavily. Benefits of using celestall as an archetype are: 1) literally no one builds to counter you in this meta 2) a well-composed Celesteela team as answers to everything that can beat Celesteela and everything that it struggles to deal with. So, let's look at set details. Many players now tend to use offensive (Life Orb, WP, Power Herb) Celesteela set, but this is not the case for me. I like more slow-paced games, where u have to think twice before clicking a button and have control over your opponent's actions. So, i chose celestall as an archetype, which is closer to "Balance", than to complete stall, as u can't use complete stall in vgc (u can, but I don't think u'r going to win higher 1100). Leech Seed is a move which many players love and many players hate, it "drains" 10%-12% of "infected" pokemon's HP, while regaining stolen health to the Active Slot it has been used on (rather right or left slot). For example, if u seeded a pokemon on the right slot, any active pokemon on that slot will drain/recover HP while on that slot, but only on that slot, so Leech Seed doesn't work like Sand Tomb or Magma Storm. We can use this to passively heal any pokemon on our team, providing u can switch it in. Protect is used in conjunction with Leech Seed to recover 36% of health every "Celeturn" (Celeturn is both a turn when u had your non-protective move used followed by a Protect turn) (12+6+12+6=36%), while passively draining 24% off any seeded pokemon. So, if any of Celesteela's attacking moves deals at least 26% of damage and your opponent has no recovery moves/passive healing (Leftovers, Grassy Terrain), u can beat any pokemon in 2 celeturns providing that both conditions are fulfilled. I think it is enough of complicated things, let's move to our attacking moves. Heavy Slam is a powerful STAB option, which also has a benefit of boosting Celesteela's Defense through Max Steelspike, and if u KO a fairy with it (which is quite simple) u will get +1 in both defenses thanks to Celesteela's ability, Beast Boost, which makes it even tougher to defeat when let out of control with defensive boosts. Flamethrower is used as a tool to OHKO Kartanas (without Flamethrower Celesteela would've really struggled against Kartanas) and deal +70% damage to Ferrothorn, another pokemon Celesteela would've struggled against without Flamethrower. It also has more effect on Glastrier since our premiere attacking move is only 40 BP against him. In conclusion, i could write a book about how good Celesteela is at seeding, but this is it for now.
Interesting calcs:
252+ SpA Life Orb Venusaur-Gmax Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. 244 HP / 92+ SpD Celesteela in Sun: 172-203 (84.7 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Glastrier Max Hailstorm vs. 244 HP / 172 Def Celesteela: 142-169 (69.9 - 83.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Life Orb Thundurus Wild Charge vs. 244 HP / 172 Def Celesteela: 151-182 (74.3 - 89.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Kingdra Max Geyser vs. 244 HP / 92+ SpD Celesteela in Rain: 144-172 (70.9 - 84.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Torkoal Heat Wave vs. 244 HP / 92+ SpD Celesteela in Sun: 168-198 (82.7 - 97.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
The Best Pivot aka OMG PROTECT INCIN?, Incineroar
sorry for this one being this big it speaks to how important it is xD
Incineroar is my tool for dealing with strong physical attackers, such as Glastrier, Urshifu-D, Kartana, Rillaboom and many others. It offers, well, Intimidate, which is known to be one of the best abilities in the game, and Parting Shot to lower offensive presence on opposing side of the field, while gaining switch momentum. This momentum can be used similar way as Raichu uses his Volt Switch in order to gain advantage of Celesteela's incredible typing. The reason i love PhysDef Incin is that it easily switches onto Glast and Lando's super effective moves, acting as a pivot into Glastrier's Max Hailstorm used into Garchomp, as an example. I already wrote about Fake Out above, so let's move on to Flare Blitz, a STAB, strongest move available to Incineroar(u can see the calc below to make sure it is powerful). Protect. I've (once again repeating) already wrote about importance of Protect on any mon above, but in Incineroar's case it enables better longevity and, once again, a turn-waste for your opponent which u can use to your advantage. I use Iapapa Berry as a hold item because i already have Sitrus Berry used, and this Incineroar set is brought below 1/3 of its HP more often than to 1/2 of its HP. In conclusion, Incineroar is used for its immense bulk and ability to control offensive momentum on the other side of the field, while countering one of the most threatening pokemon in the metagame, Glastrier.
Some calcs:
252+ SpA Venusaur Max Quake vs. 244 HP / 36 SpD Incineroar: 144-170 (71.6 - 84.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (50% chance roll with life orb Venu)
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Thundurus Max Airstream vs. 244 HP / 124+ Def Incineroar: 173-204 (86 - 101.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Thundurus Max Knuckle vs. 244 HP / 124+ Def Incineroar: 169-200 (84 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
-1 252+ Atk Life Orb Glastrier Max Quake vs. 244 HP / 124+ Def Incineroar: 133-159 (66.1 - 79.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
4 Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 244 HP / 4 Def Glastrier: 122-146 (59.2 - 70.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
The Stupid Monke Jokes aka No Water Types Available Rn, Rillaboom
Rillaboom's role in this team is to use Taunt, as there are, unfortunately, no moveslots for this wonderful move on my team (protect incin, remember?). He uses it solely for dusclops/amoonguss combo, which is led quite often on hard-tr teams, as Spore ruinis both Celesteela and Garchomp. He also destroys pokemon such as Gastrodon, Urshifu-W, Rotom-Wash and generally weakened pokemon. And he has Fake Out. "Wait Pinky, is this triple Fake Out?" - u'r going to ask, and i'll answer - yes, it is. Because pressure and momentum. One thing i want to add is that G-Max Drum Solo is a f*ucking NUKE. It 2HKO's literally everything, as after STAB+Miracle Seed+Terrain+Boosted Max Power it reaches 249.5 Base Power. This is like 2 Bloom Dooms right to the face in one turn. And u can use it 3 turns in a row. Crazy. It is Eved 148 Speed to reach 124 Speed, which is enough to outspeed max Speed Life Orb Lapras, which team kinda struggles against. In conclusion, Rillaboom is kind of a nichepick, because he is only used for certain matchups.
The One And Only Calc:
252+ Atk Miracle Seed Rillaboom-Gmax G-Max Drum Solo vs. 252 HP / 116 Def Dynamax Lapras in Grassy Terrain: 474-560 (100 - 118.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
The team reached 1807 (top 100 on ladder)
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I'll also leave some replays for those who are interested in how the team is actually behaving on the field, i hope u enjoy!
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1241671557
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1241679080
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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1257057995
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1257065101
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1257116921
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1258261875
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1258266215
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1266064497
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1266074139
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1266720624
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1266725171
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1267288040
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1269268799
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1269272377-7e9yjtppup7zwheqzuz1d2bab0hv2r5pw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1272615908
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1272639918
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1274633428-xvk3fxsa12tox185akvk865gfymw9pxpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1274644450
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1276076183
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1276652322
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1276728053
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1278366124-0lvhifirbprvwfdy3kl6ggfymuvjy34pw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1278408239
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1278444829
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1278471640
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1278481699
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1278940559
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2020-1278951778
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1278998806
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1278994748
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1279098063
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1279689199
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1280391462-mwbo3f9w80z3q6gcsu9bekklzvbpy3hpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1283700424
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1284395156
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1289640623-b1k7l1uol35vmezdsht2y7smpwg7q7npw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1318343322
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1318345501
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021series9-1322758426
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021-1322882668
Thank you all guys who read this whole (and to everyone who haven't) article, i'd really appreciate if you leave a positive reply for this article, as i spent a lot of time and patience writing this. I hope u liked the team!
Team J by WettestTowelVGC
https://pokepast.es/dbb2238e87ada948
Having 2 Steel-types and one of them being Excadrill might seem bad. But Excadrill and Celesteela only share one weakness which is alleviated by rain. having two steels ends up fine as they have different role compression and Weaknesses. They beat different pokemon, Celesteela deals with Kartana, Landorus-T and Garchomp, while Excadrill handles Pokemon like Tapu Koko, Regieleki and Stakataka. Celesteela is great on rain having its one Weakness alleviated and checking many Grass-types for the rain team.
Celesteela with Safety Goggles is able to provide a much needed answer to sun. Celesteela is also capable of checking Glastrier, Mamoswine, and Rillaboom. Glastrier and Rillaboom being especially key to check for this team. Celesteela has no Meteor beam as that is not needed on this team which is very anti Fire-types.
Politoed and Kingdra are able to alleviate Excadrill and Celesteela of their usual issues by checking Fire and Ground-types like Landorus-t Rotom-H, and Incineroar. I chose Icy Wind over Perish Song due to the teams general lack of speed control, Sitrus Berry is the item for some more longjevity helpful vs things like not being 2HKOd by Urshifu's Wicked Blow.
Kingdra is fairly self explanatory on rain. i ran a bulky Life Orb set as i felt pretty confident vs Regieleki. 100 speed evs outspeeds +1 Moltres-g in rain.
This Excadrill set is bulky Weakness Policy with Swords Dance. Excadrill has a very high HP stat and when invested its defenses aren't bad especially when factoring Dynamax and boosts. Excadrill loves Rain and Celesteela handleing Landorus-T, Garchomp, and Incineroar. in Return Excadril checks Regieleki, Stakataka, Tapu Koko, and Togekiss. Excadrill has no Rock slide which while that could hurt vs Zapdos and Thundurus it can still beat them thanks to Weakness Policy and the fact that they can be forced to activae it as Excadrill resists their STABs. Excadrill has enough Speed EVs to outspeed Minus one Spectrier.
252+ Atk Landorus-Therian Max Quake vs. 52 HP / 172 Def Dynamax Excadrill: 312-368 (81.2 - 95.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Glastrier Max Quake vs. 52 HP / 172 Def Dynamax Excadrill: 270-320 (70.3 - 83.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Rillaboom Grassy Glide vs. 52 HP / 172 Def Dynamax Excadrill in Grassy Terrain: 147-174 (38.2 - 45.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
252+ SpA Rotom-Heat Max Flare vs. 52 HP / 4 SpD Dynamax Excadrill: 318-374 (82.8 - 97.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Rillaboom is a staple on rain teams able to handle opposing Bulk Water-type Pokemon, Regieleki, Fake Out, and Priority. Rillaboom loves Rain+Excadrill handling many pesky Fire and Flying-types. Rain can also deal with Bulk steels like for Rillaboom like Celesteela, and Metagross. Assault Vest is the item this helps Rillaboom in checking Regieleki and Lapras along with takeing a weak Max Airstream.
Regieleki is able to provide speed control for this team. I Chose Focus Sash to make Regieleki more consistant in giving this team speed control. Regieleki also has good offensive synergy with rain liking its ability to remove Ground-types and force in Bulky water resists like Tapu Fini. Regieleki also has decent synergy like it does with most ground-types with Excadrill hitting annoying Water-types for it.
Team K by Bananers7Howdy fellow Celesteela builders, this is my team: https://pokepast.es/a00ab6e477518e51
So obviously it's Celesteela building so the first member of the team was Rotom heat. For the idea of Rotom I knew exactly what I wanted it to do, as I have been using it on my Rhyperior team. With the 244 EVs in it's special attack (and modest nature) it can OHKO the standard max Venusaur set with Overheat in the sun, as well as Safety Goggles protecting it from Sleep Powder. The 228 speed is to outspeed a max speed Metagross, in case of Spectrier shenanigans. I just put the rest of the EVs into HP. Overheat is there because it's the best, and only, Fire type move option. I like Volt Switch over Thunderbolt for the pivot. Nasty Plot helps get back to neutral after Overheat, or just to get the boost. Protect is there because it's VGC. The nickname Rotom Oven came from watching an old VGC match, where one of the commentators said Rotom Washing Machine, and I thought that was funny.
The next pokemon I added was Milotic because water types go with Rotom heat very well. This is my all time favorite Milotic set that I've used, except the EVs used to be different. With the defense it can live a choice banded Grassy Glide from Rillaboom with the Rindo Berry. With the special defense it can live a +2 max overgrowth from Coalossal with the Rindo Berry. The special attack is so that it can OHKO the standard max Coalossal with max geyser. Muddy Water is a good spread move, with decent power, but it does have the drawback of 85 accuracy. Blizzard is another decent spread move, again with the drawback of lower than convenient accuracy. Hypnosis is a very good move that puts the target to sleep, but again there's the problem of a bad accuracy. All these moves with worse than usual accuracy may seem bad, but there is a way to fix it, which is the last move Coil. Coil not only boosts accuracy, but it also boosts defense. With the Coil boost Muddy water becomes 113.3% accurate, Blizzard becomes 93.3% accurate, and Hypnosis goes from the abysmal 60% to a decent 80% accurate. The nickname is because I couldn't think of anything more clever, so Milotic has the drip.
The next pokemon I added was Celesteela, and this took me the longest. The EVs were the longest part due to me wanting it to survive things, while also being a hard hitter. I quickly found out I couldn't do both, unless I dropped Leftovers for a Life Orb, or Weakness Policy. I lost all my calcs for what the EVs did, but I do remember it can survive a choice specs thunderbolt from Tapu Lele. Flash Cannon is a solid STAB move. Air Slash is also a solid STAB move. Flamethrower is good because it hits the steel types that Air Slash and Flash Cannon can't touch. Protect is there because it's VGC. The nickname is a Little Einsteins reference.
I was looking at Celesteela teams and saw many of them had an offensive ground type. While it was very tempting to add Drilbur, I realized I should probably build a legit team, and even with a Choice Band it missed important KO's, so I took a step up and added Excadrill. The EVs are a simple 252/252/4, and I gave it Focus Sash. I gave it Adamant Nature because I don't think it needs the extra speed. High Horsepower in my opinion is better than Earthquake, because 1) it's single target, and doesn't get the drop, and 2) grassy terrain powers down Earthquake, and Rillaboom is everywhere. Iron Head is a very solid move, with a chance to flinch. I also like Rock Slide for the max rockfall, and it also has a small chance to flinch. Protect is there because, again, it's VGC. The nickname is because I wanted to pay homage to Drilbur.
Obviously with a Sand Rush Excadrill you need a partner. I chose Gigalith. I lost the Calcs for this one too, but I'm pretty sure it can OHKO a Porygon2 with Superpower, after an attack boost (foreshadowing). Choice Band is the item I chose, but Assault Vest would've worked too. Stone Edge is there because it's a very good STAB move, though it does have 80 accuracy. Superpower is there because with this team I don't want trick room going up, and Porygon2 is the most common trick room setter. I put Rock Slide on there because I like the Rock Slide spam with Excadrill, which is also another way to deny the trick room. Explosion was originally Heavy Slam, but I already had enough steel type moves. The nickname is obvious, but if you don't know who Dwayne Johnson is, he's The Rock.
I had 3 major problems that needed patching up. One was Incineroar, which wasn't to big of a problem. The next was the strength of physical attackers in the meta was too strong, also relatively easy to patch up. The last thing was trick room denial. The pokemon I came up with was Hitmontop. Due to the Intimidate that deals with Physical attackers. The White Herb lets it deal with Incineroar effectively. Lastly it gets a very good move to support some of the members of my team. That move was Coaching, which I put on there so Gigalith could pick up a KO on Porygon2 with Superpower. Next is Close Combat which is obviously the STAB move of choice for most Fighting type pokemon. Fake Out is very good so you can also make something flinch and get a KO, or apply pressure. Finally Quick Guard is another good Incineroar counter, to deal with its fake out. The nickname is because there's a popular show called Beyblade where you let it rip, and the Beyblade spins like a top.
I hope you enjoyed my explanations.
Super busy this week but I still wanted to get a team out, so here you go, 10-minute teambuilding with Naners.
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I went with the Weakness Policy Leech Seed set that my good friend Oddball_Otter used in week one. I wanted Celesteela to work in non-max Celesteela games, and Leech Seed allows it to do just that. I'm too lazy to check right now so I'm not sure if we have the same EVs, but eh I'll explain anyway. 52 HP evs minimizes the residual chip damage from the Kanto starters max moves. Special Attack evs are maxed because duh. 172 speed and a Timid nature allow me to outrun Base 102's and below at plus one speed. The defense EVs were just extra but they also happened to line up perfectly for Download manipulation, which is always cool.
I added the sun bros because Celesteela really struggles with Tapu Fini if it can get a Calm Mind up and Steel-types. These two absolutely destroy those two, so they were a perfect fit. The Venu set is pretty standard, HP is optimized for Life Orb and Speed outspeed Regieleki when in Sun. No Sludge Bomb has been picking up lately, and for good reason, as you can hit most poison weak Pokemon with Leaf Storm/Weather Ball/Earth Power, but gain extra coverage. Torkoal is standard support, HP optimized for Sitrus Berry recovery and defense evs 2HKO most Incineroar sets with Body Press. Rest dumped into Special Defense.
Ahhhh, the third time I've used Garchomp here. I love this thing, and it works pretty well here. It provides a Thundurus check as my team kind of struggles with it. It also provides a Regieleki counter, which is good on every team as the stupid thing dominates every team ever ( I really hate eleki if you couldn't tell). I went with the standard two attacks Swords Dance set, with Stomping Tantrum over Earthquake as I have only 1 ground immunity. EV spread maximizes bulk in HP and minimizes Kanto starter chip damage. 244 Speed ouspeeds base 100's. Rest dumped into attack.
Went with Raichu here to provide Fake Out support as well as some damage reduction, and also becauseto Regielekis everywhere. Raichu is also able to pull off a weak Weakness Policy proc on Celesteela, which is of course useful. EVs are very self-explanatory, and I went Focus Sash because look at that things defenses.
Finally, we have Grimmsnarl. I went with Grimmsnarl because it provides leeway for Garchomp to set up, as well as let Torkoal Yawn or just let my attackers attack in general. The spread is able to survive a Metagross Max Steelspike with Reflect up, with the rest dumped into Special Defense. Dual Screens and Spirit Break because duh, and Fake Tears is very helpful for making my special attackers potent, especially with speed boosts from either Sun or Max Airstream.
Overall I really like this team, and yes I did build it in 10 minutes. Bye.
Bananers
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Team L by Crunchman
Team M by KachiVGC
Physical Celesteela WP + Coaching/Speed Swap
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I’ve never really done VGC before so I had no reason to do this, but I was bored and decided to do it. As a former chad who grinded randbats singles, I understand the importance of a plug and chug airstream spammer. However, while special Celesteela sets are incredibly potent in addition to leech seed sets, I felt like Celesteela had a wider physical movepool, and so I built around that. It needed a little oomf, and weakness policy does just that. Also, running a physical set means electrics and fire could be taken care of with Earthquake/Rock Slide. Celesteela by itself is pretty slow, and I also wanted a way to boost its stats against tankier opponents. Pheromosa was a perfect fit for this: access to coaching helped make Celesteela a stronger threat, and speed swap means Celesteela can outspeed almost everything with a max airstream, including Regieleki and weather boosted pokemon. This also means I don't need to invest in speed on Celesteela - everything can go into bulk and offense. Ice beam and close combat allow pheromosa to threaten landorus-t and incineroar (it ohkoes uninvested lando), both big problems to a physical set. Speaking of those, an assumption that a celesteela is special can discourage choosing an intimidate pokemon. In order to cover its fire and electric weaknesses, I added politoed and raichu. Raichu is pretty self-explanatory; it runs volt switch, eerie impulse (can be switched to charm if physical proves to be a problem, but most threats are special attackers), fake out, and nuzzle. Raichu is max speed to be able to nuzzle/eerie impulse faster opponents, and volt switch can be used for a self-proc weakness policy. Politoed brings rain to the team; its main purpose is to provide rain against sun teams and helping hand celesteela. Icy wind provides some speed control, and brings another answer to landorus (scald as well), and perish song serves as a potential late game win condition. I tested using pelipper as well; it can hit decently well and tank hits, as well as catch people by surprise with wide guard, but politoed is probably more solid in general (playing against eleki is very clunky; you can Raichu the tbolt or wide guard the electroweb, but you cant do both). Indeedee is generally just a follow me slave; safety goggles alleviates spore/sleep powder pressure. Heal pulse can help keep the celesteela sweep alive, and expanding force can dish out some damage when necessary. Indeedee also helps deal with prankster shenanigans like thunder wave/eject button. The final pokemon is Garchomp, another pokemon that can deal with electrics, as well as being a good answer to fire type pokemon such as coalossal. Swords dance allows it to slightly alleviate the matchup against intimidate. I originally had Zapdos-G in this slot as a secondary coaching user, but I never found it necessary to bring over pheromosa.
Below are some replays:
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021series9-1338788746-vwu0i6h6bt982mo71p6ik9oee4en0hfpw (testing)
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021series9-1338789215 (lost because of system auto-moving as I timed out… probably winnable, room tour also)
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021series9-1338794918 (room tour)
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021series9-1338796090 (room tour)
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021series9-1338801925 (room tour)
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021series9-1338805616 (room tour finals, lost) (for some reason I feel like he knew what was coming)
After this I played a bit of ladder to get some more testing in:
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021series9-1338845584-952moua3lny43zd29nes5t26z8uu9jxpw Added garchomp and ptoed, over pelipper and gapdos. Garchomp ate this matchup.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021series9-1338847860 classic celesteela sweep.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021series9-1338849129-y8hr89m5b0g8o6zcda8on8lonw50dmipw celesteela does celesteela things
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021series9-1338850553 celesteela does more celesteela things
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2021series9-1338853992 messed up the positioning, but it worked
(threw a game because torkoal was obvious but I kept ptoed in for some reason. Oops)
Went 7-2 on ladder with it at around 1300 elo, which I think is pretty good for someone who doesn’t play vgc.
Shoutouts:
Thanks tqew for playtesting and help with movesets/evs and suggesting Garchomp. Thanks Gfazzo for help with movesets and evs. Thanks to RKD for playtesting. Thanks to Sole Survivor for suggesting Politoed. Thanks to Jomatoes for, like, moral support or something?
This is my first time building a team and I have never played VGC seriously. (This probably isn’t that serious either). I hope you enjoy, I think the team is pretty cool; I'm bad at VGC so I only know how to d-max celesteela, but I'm sure some of the other mons can be potential d-max targets too.
Team M by KachiVGC
Team N by ChrystalFalchionHello! I introduce you to my week 4 Celesteela team, I hope you enjoy it!
Celesteela Raichu Archetype; Garchomp Clefairy
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Celesteela
As the main star of the show, Celesteela is simple, it hits hard and gets activated by Weakness Policy from Raichu. It has many great matchups against the metagame. It has great bulk and good power if used greatly.
Garchomp
It´s pretty clear, I wanted a way to resist the types of fire and electric while having an option to beat it. Garchomp wasn´t my first answer it was actually Rotom-Heat but I thought having a blend of a physical and special attacker, Garchomp crossed my mind mainly because I haven´t tried it. Garchomp seemed like a perfect fit for me, the second pokemon I was thinking of before Garchomp was Rhyperior for several reasons. It is a physical attacker, gets Lightning Rod. Has a rock typing so, Celesteela does not need to run Meteor Beam, it also freely stand up to Tapu Fini because Celesteela has access to Wide Guard allowing it to attack freely. There could be many more reasons but I´ll keep it short. Anyways I picked Garchomp because it´s a fast-paste pokemon, or I might as well run Trick Room. Lum Berry is great because I can have a great one-turn with no status and have to Follow Me, Fake out, or Nuzzle to prevent me from getting a status.
Raichu
Raichu was pretty obvious, even if we already had Garchomp that doesn't mean we´re completely safe from Regieleki or Rotom-Heat, Raichu solves this problem very easily. It WALLS Regieleki and can effortlessly disrupt Rotom-Heat Clefairy strategies, with the addition of still walling Regieleki without Hyper Beam or being the physical variants with Assurance. Fake Out just disrupts pokemon While eerie impulse ruins special attackers the only problem is physical ground types. Volt Switch is a great pivot because it´s a great way to get of tight situations, for example, if Landorus-Therian uses max quake on Raichu you can Volt switch to get in a Rillaboom / Celesteela. While maintaining a great way to activate Weakness Policy. That's pretty much all that Raichu does on the team.
Clefairy
Clefairy is for supporting Garchomp and sometimes Celesteela, it´s Follow Me support is very effective and useful with the addition of Helping Hand. Moonblast is useful for special attack drops and ohkoes Urshifu-d while hitting other Pokemon for super effective damage. Friend Guard is also very useful to take less damage from the opponent. This basically sums up what Clefairy does.
Incineroar
Incineroar is pretty standard I had a bad Glastrier Match-up so Incineroar just fills in that role almost perfectly, with the addition of Parting shot and Taunt to support the team to a great extent. Also, it's just the best option because we don´t have that much of a choice. With the addition of Shuca Berry, it can get a Parting Shot off Landorus-Therian.
Rillaboom
Rillaboom was pretty obvious, to beat ground, rock, and water to cover Incin. That´s Pretty much it, Rillaboom also can give me more priority over the opponent. I wanted to try Choice Band for a change over the usual Miracle Seed surprisingly, it´s fun. It can ko Raichu, Urshifu-R, Politoed, Regieleki, Tapu fini, Landorus-Therian, Spectrier, Indeedee-f, Torkal, and much more.
Calculations/Notes: +2 236 Atk Garchomp Max Quake (130 BP) vs. 252 HP / 124 Def Tapu Fini: 175-207 (98.8 - 116.9%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
244 speed with a Jolly nature out speeds under base 100-speed pokemon.
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Spectrier Max Phantasm (130 BP) vs. 12 HP / 12 SpD Dynamax Garchomp with Friend Guard: 288-339 (77.8 - 91.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Dragapult Max Wyrmwind (130 BP) vs. 12 HP / 4 Def Dynamax Garchomp with Friend Guard: 213-252 (57.5 - 68.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+3 252+ SpA Life Orb Moltres-Galar Max Darkness (130 BP) vs. 12 HP / 12 SpD Dynamax Garchomp with Friend Guard: 278-328 (75.1 - 88.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Single Strike Wicked Blow vs. 12 HP / 4 Def Garchomp on a critical hit: 160-189 (86.4 - 102.1%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Metagross Max Hailstorm (130 BP) vs. 12 HP / 4 Def Dynamax Garchomp with Friend Guard: 261-309 (70.5 - 83.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ SpA Tapu Fini Max Starfall (130 BP) vs. 12 HP / 12 SpD Dynamax Garchomp with Friend Guard: 330-391 (89.1 - 105.6%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Landorus-T Max Quake (130 BP) vs. 12 HP / 4 Def Dynamax Garchomp with Friend Guard: 205-241 (55.4 - 65.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Glastrier Max Hailstorm (130 BP) vs. 252 HP / 172+ Def Eviolite Clefairy: 140-165 (79 - 93.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
It is also able to survive with the addition of hail chip damage.
252+ Atk Metagross Max Steelspike (130 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 172+ Def Eviolite Clefairy: 134-162 (75.7 - 91.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Landorus-T Max Quake (130 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 172+ Def Eviolite Clefairy: 130-154 (73.4 - 87%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Venusaur Max Ooze (90 BP) vs. 252 HP / 84 SpD Eviolite Clefairy: 151-182 (85.3 - 102.8%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
If you want to know the names of the pokemon since it only makes sense to use my language now and then, clickWell, that's all. I hope you enjoy using the team because when I started it was kind of hard to pilot. When I got more used to It I had fun with it and got to use Garchomp a lot as well as the other pokemon. I think I´ve become fond of using it, possibly I could get this team on cart. If you like the team and like to give your opinion dm me in Pokemon Showdown. My PS username is Kachi1954, you´ll probably see me talking in the VGC room.Bamboo Cutter, Dragon Shark( very simple), Fairy from the moon, Tesso, Tiger Mask, and Monkey Kikazaru. Bamboo Cutter is what Celesteela is based off, Dragon Shark is what Garchomp is, Fairy from the moon because it is a fairy from the moon, Tesso is a rat yokai, Tiger Mask because Incin is a wrestler, and a tiger, monkey Kikazaru because Kikazaru is from the phrase ¨the three wise monkeys, can´t speak no evil, hear no evil, see no evil.¨ Kikazaru is can´t hear no evil.
That is all, bye!
Team O by Br0Sk1llzJust beat the deadline. Here’s my Celesteela rain team.
Importable
Breakdown
Celesteela is the star of my team. I went with a physical set, as it has two strong STABs in Heavy Slam and Acrobatics. Stomping Tantrum rounds out it’s coverage, while Protect guards against Fake Out and let’s me scout. Celesteela also lets me threaten Venusaur, a big threat to rain.
Politoed sets Rain for my team, weakening Celesteela’s Fire weakness and triggering Kingdra’s Swift Swim. It’s the standard support set, providing power and Speed control With Icy Wind.
Next up is a Rain staple in Kingdra. In Rain it hits like an absolute truck, and Politoed can assist it further with Helping Hand. Hydro Pump is used over Muddy Water for a stronger Max Geyser. Draco Meteor is a backup STAB, Hurricane hits Grass types and Protect blocks Fake Out and lets me scout.
Now with 2 Electric weak mons, Raichu gave me a redirector. It also lets Celesteela reliably proc its Weakness Policy. Fake Out and Nuzzle are nice support, Volt Switch lets it safely bring in a teammate and Eerie Impulse lets it trip up stuff like Spectrier. Focus Sash is necessary as Raichu is frail AF, and the EVs are in bulk becpause it doesn’t need to hit hard.
Now, how to slaughter opposing Water types? That’s right with Rillaboom! A secondary Fake Out user gives Volcarona and Celesteela space to set up. Grassy Glide is useful priority, Knock Off hits the likes of Dusclops while Wood Hammer gives it a powerful STAB. It only attacks, and therefore appreciates the bulk of an Assault Vest.
Last but not least, one of my favourite Pokemon in Volcarona is here to complete the trio of sweepers. Quiver Dance gives it amazing power, with Heat Wave as a spread move and Bug Buzz for when I can’t afford to miss. I used Volcarona as it wrecks most of the Grass types that threaten Rain. EVs let it outrun Moltres-G with more Defence to give Grassy Seed a bit more oomph.
Team P by MustashHello everyone! You may or may not know me from VGC chat and discords, but if you don’t, I think you live under a rock. Anyways, I was building for a tournament, and I saw that steela building competition was open, so I put 1+1 together and got 6 (Pokémon). So, without further adoo, here is the team!
NUKE (Celesteela) @ Power Herb
Ability: Beast Boost
Level: 50
EVs: 20 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 228 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Protect
- Flash Cannon
- Air Slash
- Meteor Beam
I love meteor beam Celesteela as it has the opportunity to KO a lot of its threats such as Thundurus/Zapdos, Rotom-Heat, and Incineroar (and others which I’m not going to mention for the sake of time). I also EV’d it very speed oriented so after an airstream it can outspeed the aforementioned Thundy and do some serious damage with Rockfall or Meteor Beam. With helping hand (wait for my next ‘mon) it kills all the time. Just in general a great set.
COME (Clefairy) @ Eviolite
Ability: Friend Guard
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Def / 60 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Protect
- Follow Me
- Helping Hand
- Icy Wind
Clef is great as a partner for Celesteela as it can redirect threatening attacks while also giving Friend Guard support and Helping Hand boosts in times of need. The spread lets it live life orb spectrier hits very well (the calc has disappeared from my head from the moment, feel free to screw around with the damage calc). I also put icy wind over Moonblast and the like because of the aforementioned speed EVs with Celesteela. Just in general great support for a great mon.
EAT (Garchomp) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Rough Skin
Level: 50
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 4 SpD / 244 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Protect
- Swords Dance
- Stomping Tantrum
- Rock Slide
Lum SD chomp is a set I have been loving the more I use it. It’s natural bulk along with Clefairy’s friend guard and Follow Me makes it super easy to SD up, and after that, there’s no stopping it. Lum also stops annoying Sleep Powders and Will-o-Wisps among others, which are always a pain in the butt. Protect was slotted over dragon claw just because in testing Protect helped in more scenarios. Garchomp also pairs really well with Celesteela by covering its weaknesses (it covers electric and fire quite well) and likewise Celesteela for Chomp (great switch in for dragon, destroys ice types and fairy types). Anyways, this was a no brainer.
PUNCH (Urshifu) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Unseen Fist
Level: 50
Gigantamax: Yes
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Detect
- Wicked Blow
- Close Combat
- Sucker Punch
Literally no need to explain, it’s an amazing cleaner for the first two as well as just an overall powerhouse. Sash is kind of necessary in the meta (unless you are running it with a fast speed control mon) because of the sheer amount of things that OHKO it. Anyways, moving on!
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BURN (Rotom-Heat) @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 228 HP / 4 Def / 244 SpA / 4 SpD / 28 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Protect
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Overheat
The best sun answer/plotter there ever was (or is) in the format. It pairs well with CeleChomp, again offering defensive and offensive coverage for their weaknesses. Also, it’s an amazing glastrier/metagross answer and pairs well with Clefairy, so I guess that worked out well :> The spread is dedicated to deleting glastrier as well as living its hits. And now for the final mon!
BANG (Rillaboom) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Grassy Surge
Level: 50
Gigantamax: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 20 Atk / 84 Def / 148 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Grassy Glide
- Fake Out
- Knock Off
- U-turn
What were you expecting? It’s just a standard Wolfe AV rillaboom. Helps out with fini and is just a great overall support mon. Also offers fake out which we didn’t have before this. Just a GOATed mon, and it coincidentally fit onto this team, which is nice.
Anyways, that was the team! It got really good results on ladder where I got to 1500s, and in the tournament I joined, where I placed 4th. I hope you try it out and enjoy it while you’re at it!
https://pokepast.es/ffc0a56146c56dce
Team Q by ToastNoButter
And finally, Team R by PinkiePat
C N G P D L Q B
C Gfazzo love the celewack and mienshao chomp i think thats just phenominal synergy
N Crystalfalchion I LOVE grassy seed volcorona i have used this myself before its very heat.
G Typhoues love steela + coal I think coal ,Incineroar, and Rillaboom have great synergy with Steela.
P DJWt64 love Sand + Steela specifically really liking zolt+Gigalith. team could have been optimized a little further still love it!
D I think Snorlax fits pretty well on that team handling spectrier and loving redirection from Amooonguss
L This is Straight fire not much else to say
Q extremely beta chomp balance but trick grimm and lum thundy are interesting picks for that type of team that i have not seen much.
B Like Policy Chomp Adamant chomp is a little sus otherwise i really like it.
N Crystalfalchion I LOVE grassy seed volcorona i have used this myself before its very heat.
G Typhoues love steela + coal I think coal ,Incineroar, and Rillaboom have great synergy with Steela.
P DJWt64 love Sand + Steela specifically really liking zolt+Gigalith. team could have been optimized a little further still love it!
D I think Snorlax fits pretty well on that team handling spectrier and loving redirection from Amooonguss
L This is Straight fire not much else to say
Q extremely beta chomp balance but trick grimm and lum thundy are interesting picks for that type of team that i have not seen much.
B Like Policy Chomp Adamant chomp is a little sus otherwise i really like it.
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1 - H by pinky tries to VGC (Played this team multiple times, it really brings out Celesteela fantastically. The number of times I got 1v3ed or 1v4ed by this Steela is disgusting)
2 - B by AaPokemon (big fan of pairing Grimm with Offensive Celesteela. I think this team brought out that concept the best)
3 - G by typhoeus200318 (Coal does cover some of the weaknesses of Celesteela. Nice concept)
4 - C by Gfazzo (in general, great team all around. ywt covered the rest for me)
5 - I by yourwelcomethank (Steela seems to take a back seat here, but still Rain with Steela is a good team)
On that end:
H B G C I
2 - B by AaPokemon (big fan of pairing Grimm with Offensive Celesteela. I think this team brought out that concept the best)
3 - G by typhoeus200318 (Coal does cover some of the weaknesses of Celesteela. Nice concept)
4 - C by Gfazzo (in general, great team all around. ywt covered the rest for me)
5 - I by yourwelcomethank (Steela seems to take a back seat here, but still Rain with Steela is a good team)
On that end:
H B G C I
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my top 6 favourites are
team H
team Q
Team C
Team O
Team b
Team J
1- pinky tries to vgc ‘s Steela team is my favourite. By far. It’s the perfect Celesteela stall team in my opinion and that’s my favourite way to play Steela. & pinky is super strong with this team and has excellent defensive control throughout most of his matches.
2- ToastNoButter
Nice & strong Steela team, I rate it second because the iron ball tech is very clever to help chomp clear through flying mons while not having to take up a rock slot. Super cool stuff here.
3- Gfazzo steela wak with koko and chomp is too nostalgic to not appreciate. Also another nice looking team.
4- Br0Sk1llz
This is a dangerous team that also has great synergy full of powerful attackers. This team is a similar play style to how I build a lot of teams and enjoy using them. Pretty sure I’ve lost to this team a number of times as well.
5 - Aapo’s team is also similar I feel to Br0Sk1llz in how it operates. Another exceptionally strong team with very few flaws and lots of fun ways to play the team with.
6- wettestTowel’s Steela seems like a pretty cool pick to go with a sand team, and this seems like an interesting group of 6 that’s nice and refreshing. Cool team idea.
team H
team Q
Team C
Team O
Team b
Team J
1- pinky tries to vgc ‘s Steela team is my favourite. By far. It’s the perfect Celesteela stall team in my opinion and that’s my favourite way to play Steela. & pinky is super strong with this team and has excellent defensive control throughout most of his matches.
2- ToastNoButter
Nice & strong Steela team, I rate it second because the iron ball tech is very clever to help chomp clear through flying mons while not having to take up a rock slot. Super cool stuff here.
3- Gfazzo steela wak with koko and chomp is too nostalgic to not appreciate. Also another nice looking team.
4- Br0Sk1llz
This is a dangerous team that also has great synergy full of powerful attackers. This team is a similar play style to how I build a lot of teams and enjoy using them. Pretty sure I’ve lost to this team a number of times as well.
5 - Aapo’s team is also similar I feel to Br0Sk1llz in how it operates. Another exceptionally strong team with very few flaws and lots of fun ways to play the team with.
6- wettestTowel’s Steela seems like a pretty cool pick to go with a sand team, and this seems like an interesting group of 6 that’s nice and refreshing. Cool team idea.
1-H (Pinky is pretty much the pioneer of steela-chomp so this was a no-brainer also the 1800's rating speaks for itself)
2-B(that Garchomp set is fantastic.My only gripe about is that im not sure how well it might do outside of open sheets where setting up SD seems a lot tougher)
3-C(tried and tested core in '17 still seems very good.Altho perish song over stonedge on Alowak makes more sense to me)
4-I(i loved the excadrill+steela combo)
5-Q(cool tech for slaughtering rotoms)
2-B(that Garchomp set is fantastic.My only gripe about is that im not sure how well it might do outside of open sheets where setting up SD seems a lot tougher)
3-C(tried and tested core in '17 still seems very good.Altho perish song over stonedge on Alowak makes more sense to me)
4-I(i loved the excadrill+steela combo)
5-Q(cool tech for slaughtering rotoms)
1- Q (the Trick tech is amazing, really surprised me)
2- B ( Aapo's chomp seems really interesting and definitely has a lot of potential, tho i don't see a way to passively prevent intimidate spam)
3- C (Mienshao is one of the meta's premiere intimidate-immune Fake Outers, and team abuses this strong mon in a good way. I generally like the semi-tr archetype so the team is definitely one of me favourites.)
4- O (i really like the idea of offensive steela with clefairy, as cleff generally helps out Celesteela to "snowball" teams, and addition of 4 strong physical attackers is cool. Although, i can see the team (its stat-boosting offense) getting heavily disrupted by Haze.
5- J (omg that gigalith is an innnovation for me, as well as hitmontop being super cool)
2- B ( Aapo's chomp seems really interesting and definitely has a lot of potential, tho i don't see a way to passively prevent intimidate spam)
3- C (Mienshao is one of the meta's premiere intimidate-immune Fake Outers, and team abuses this strong mon in a good way. I generally like the semi-tr archetype so the team is definitely one of me favourites.)
4- O (i really like the idea of offensive steela with clefairy, as cleff generally helps out Celesteela to "snowball" teams, and addition of 4 strong physical attackers is cool. Although, i can see the team (its stat-boosting offense) getting heavily disrupted by Haze.
5- J (omg that gigalith is an innnovation for me, as well as hitmontop being super cool)
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DJWT64
formerly Mustash
My top 5 picks are
Team H
Team G
Team I
Team J
Team N
Team H
Team G
Team I
Team J
Team N
Team H-This team is clearly well put together and the report itself is amazingly detailed.
Team G-A Coalossal and Celesteela is a great pairing and gives you different options on how to play out the match.
Team-I- Excadrill and Celesteela are a very good pairing and I thought that the Weakness Policy Excadrill on rain was a great idea.
Team J- I really like Gigalith for sand, the Choice Band set is cool. This team has a really strong build and hitmontop is a great addition.
Team N- Another nice rain team, I thought that Volcarona was a really good answer to Grass types.
Team G-A Coalossal and Celesteela is a great pairing and gives you different options on how to play out the match.
Team-I- Excadrill and Celesteela are a very good pairing and I thought that the Weakness Policy Excadrill on rain was a great idea.
Team J- I really like Gigalith for sand, the Choice Band set is cool. This team has a really strong build and hitmontop is a great addition.
Team N- Another nice rain team, I thought that Volcarona was a really good answer to Grass types.
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H-I've fallen victim to your team countless times it is truly a masterpiece, no other person knows how to use celesteela quite like you.
B- I think wp chomp is a very underrated set, pairing it with screens makes it terrifying. And steela+grimm is just a nightmare to face
I-Love steela+rain, tho it feels like it takes a back seat, support steela generally looks better
G-Steela+Coal is deadly, both are some of the best dmax mons we've seen this gen.
K-steelachomp and sun?? now thats something I don't wanna face
B- I think wp chomp is a very underrated set, pairing it with screens makes it terrifying. And steela+grimm is just a nightmare to face
I-Love steela+rain, tho it feels like it takes a back seat, support steela generally looks better
G-Steela+Coal is deadly, both are some of the best dmax mons we've seen this gen.
K-steelachomp and sun?? now thats something I don't wanna face
H - Celestall is god and Pinky's team has become iconic at this point so I want it to win. It's crazy how many games that Celesteela on the team can win all by itself with Leech Seed and Protect, and the team is built very well to support that stall endgame.
C - I like how the team looks and Mienshao with Marowak + Chomp is a cool idea. That team also has very good synergy I feel like aside from Marowak + Koko. That team seems very balanced in structure overall and it's cool to see Mienshao get some play.
E - The idea of using Dugtrio and G-Max Lapras to set up a Celestall endgame is creative and I like it.
G - After watching CK49's metagame analysis video I realize that Celesteela beats a lot of Coalossal's worst matchups. Life Orb Celesteela is very powerful especially with Helping Hand Pult and it's a very good secondary mode for a Coalossal team.
K - Sun is already one of the best strategies in the game, now add a Celesteela mode onto that and the things the opponent has to cover in team preview can be overwhelming for many teams because opponent will always have to respect both options. And like with Coal, I think Celesteela can be quite the good alternative mode for a sun team, as it's flying resist and ability to beat Glastrier as well as sun mirror matches are very valuable. I also like Garchomp on the team because it beats Charizard in case you face one.
C - I like how the team looks and Mienshao with Marowak + Chomp is a cool idea. That team also has very good synergy I feel like aside from Marowak + Koko. That team seems very balanced in structure overall and it's cool to see Mienshao get some play.
E - The idea of using Dugtrio and G-Max Lapras to set up a Celestall endgame is creative and I like it.
G - After watching CK49's metagame analysis video I realize that Celesteela beats a lot of Coalossal's worst matchups. Life Orb Celesteela is very powerful especially with Helping Hand Pult and it's a very good secondary mode for a Coalossal team.
K - Sun is already one of the best strategies in the game, now add a Celesteela mode onto that and the things the opponent has to cover in team preview can be overwhelming for many teams because opponent will always have to respect both options. And like with Coal, I think Celesteela can be quite the good alternative mode for a sun team, as it's flying resist and ability to beat Glastrier as well as sun mirror matches are very valuable. I also like Garchomp on the team because it beats Charizard in case you face one.
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I vote for
Team H: Mons like chomp rilla help steela with its fire and electric weakness which leech seed celesteela appreciates and is overall a really cool team.
2-C: I like that alowak has lightning rod to cover celesteela’s electric weakness.This team is terrifying to battle against if you don’t have the right mons.
3-K wp celesteela is really good with how it is with dynamax.my only complaint with this team would be that it loses to rotom h
196 Atk Garchomp Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Rotom-Heat: 58-70 (46.4 - 56%) -- 69.1% chance to 2HKO it isn’t a guaranteed 2hko and rotom h can proceed to use sun boosted overheats vrs your team but other than that it is a pretty heat team ngl.
4-N: it’s pretty standard rain honestly nothing much to say but grassy seed volc is cool.
5
5-P:wp gigalith is hype
Team H: Mons like chomp rilla help steela with its fire and electric weakness which leech seed celesteela appreciates and is overall a really cool team.
2-C: I like that alowak has lightning rod to cover celesteela’s electric weakness.This team is terrifying to battle against if you don’t have the right mons.
3-K wp celesteela is really good with how it is with dynamax.my only complaint with this team would be that it loses to rotom h
196 Atk Garchomp Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Rotom-Heat: 58-70 (46.4 - 56%) -- 69.1% chance to 2HKO it isn’t a guaranteed 2hko and rotom h can proceed to use sun boosted overheats vrs your team but other than that it is a pretty heat team ngl.
4-N: it’s pretty standard rain honestly nothing much to say but grassy seed volc is cool.
5
5-P:wp gigalith is hype
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B C F H I J N
D > C > F > P > G
D - Love Drum Custap Snorlax, it's a great set and I think I'll use it on my in cartridge team for June.
C - Reminds me of the team that won masters 2017, very solid, nice to see Alolawak getting use it's so underrated.
F - Overall solid team, Celesteela's a good Trick Room mon
P - Celesteela is great on Sand, also Dracozolt > Dracovish on sand teams
G - This team is pretty much Wolfe Glick's with Steela in place of Goltres. Still a great team though.
C - Reminds me of the team that won masters 2017, very solid, nice to see Alolawak getting use it's so underrated.
F - Overall solid team, Celesteela's a good Trick Room mon
P - Celesteela is great on Sand, also Dracozolt > Dracovish on sand teams
G - This team is pretty much Wolfe Glick's with Steela in place of Goltres. Still a great team though.
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Guys ima announce the winner tomorrow because I am really tired right now and I have important things going on that I should really rest up for. I still have to count a lot of the votes so yeah, I'd have to stay up hella late. You can expect the winner around maybe 8 AM EST or so, as well as the week 5 announcement. Sorry and I hope you all understand 
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Again sorry for being a little late on announcing the winner, but anyways, we have our winner for this week. As we all should have expected from the love the team was getting, congrats to pinky tries to VGC and their team. They came in with 61 votes, however, Gfazzo came very close with 59 votes, so grats to them. Week 5 Pokemon will be announced shortly.
*Zoom* here comes Dragapult: https://pokepast.es/c83f014f848134a9
At first I made some really weird team, and decided I didn't like it. For the sake of being original, I also didn't include Coalossal. Hope you enjoy :)
Here's the first (bad) team I made: https://pokepast.es/024c4068a6210978
The nicknames are references to Polo G's album, "THE GOAT".
At first I made some really weird team, and decided I didn't like it. For the sake of being original, I also didn't include Coalossal. Hope you enjoy :)
So first we got Dragapult. Yes it yeets the children, but it also likes invulnerability. I gave it Dive (not Surf), Phantom Force, Dragon Darts and Protect. Phantom Force can also lower defense with max Phantasm, as well as Wyrmwind lowering attack. Dive can help against sun matchups, when I don't bring my next pokemon.
Ninetales is the next member. It is one of my counters to sun, and Kebia helps survive max Ooze from Venusaur. I gave it Aurora Veil, Hail, Freeze-Dry and Moonblast. Hail is to reset weather for sun matchups (and any other weather), Aurora Veil is obvious, and Freeze-Dry/Moonblast are for STAB.
Sandslash is fun, and I've been wanting to use it for weeks. I gave it Icicle Crash, Iron Head, Drill Run and Protect. Icicle Crash/Iron Head for STAB. Drill Run was originally Knock Off, but I decided ground coverage>dark coverage, because it can take care of Sandslash's most common weakness: fire.
Sableye is my Regieleki counter. It also helps with taking away any Weakness Policy's, and even activating Dragapult's. I gave it Shadow Sneak, Quash, Night Shade and Trick. Shadow Sneak can activate Dragapult's Weakness Policy, while Night Shade is my main damage output. Quash is the main way to counter Regieleki, and Trick can stop Metagross, and Coalossal in their tracks.
There are so many Fighting types that aren't used, and I really wanted to use Throh. Throh is a really nice Incineroar counter, having the ability Inner Focus. It's also an exceptionally good trick room counter, having both minimum speed and Circle Throw. I gave it Circle Throw, Rock Slide, Wide Guard and Helping Hand. Circle Throw is helpful for switching out something with multiple boosts, or a pokemon that can use Trick Room. Rock Slide is good coverage, and can possibly make Ghost type Trick Room users flinch. Wide Guard is good for Dazzling Gleam, or Electroweb, and Helping Hand is good for guaranteeing a knockout on bulkier pokemon.
Last but not least, Tapu Lele. I chose it because psychic terrain blocks priority that would give Dragapult problems, like Sucker Punch. I gave it Moonblast, Psychic, Fling and Nature's Madness. Moonblast and Psychic because they cover a lot of the meta, and STAB. Fling for another way to activate Dragapult's Weakness Policy, and Nature's Madness for a reliable way to chip pokemon down.
Here's the first (bad) team I made: https://pokepast.es/024c4068a6210978
The nicknames are references to Polo G's album, "THE GOAT".
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DUh I CLick Not Play
A very strong, very button clicky Hyper Offense
Hello all, hello SmogVGC. Here is my team for this week, and ho boy is it a strong one.
https://pokepast.es/23d1e7e527c91dcd
Here is big Pult itself. I went with a standard Life Orb 3 Attacks set. My speed allows me to outspeed every relevant Pokemon, with Tapu Koko being outsped by one point. My HP and Defense EVs allow me to be 2HKO'd by an Urshifu Sucker Punch, my HP is also optimized to take minimum Life Orb recoil. I really like Dragapult combined with my Urshifu since I can boost its Speed and give it a Pseudo-Choice Band with Max Phantasm.
I added Clefairy to this team because, in my opinion, it should be on every Hyper Offense team. Follow Me is just so good with set up attackers and just frail ones too. I went with standard moves, and my HP stat is optimized to take minimum Vine Lash damage while still maximizing HP. The Special Defense is to always live a Sludge Bomb/Max Ooze from Modest Life Orb Venusaur. I then just dumped the rest in Defense.
I went with Urshifu Single-Strike because its synergy with Dragapult is actually so broken. It also adds a Trick Room destroyer to this very fast and Trick Room weak team. EVs, item, and Moves are hella standard so no explanation needed.
I then added PorygonZ because I wanted a Special attacking Dynamax option. This shit actually slaps so hard and it's honestly my favorite Pokemon to use. I went with Silk Scarf since my Life Orb was taken (sidenote: I actually used LOrb on the original draft of my team but my Pult was hitting like a marshmallow with the Weakness Policy set I had), and my EV spread is pretty standard with Max Speed and almost Max Special attack. I decided to just give PorygonZ some bulk because it already hits so hard it doesn't necessarily need all of that Special Attack. My moves are standard, with Nasty Plot making this thing hit stupid hard, Hyper Beam maximizing power, and Dark Pulse letting me hit Ghost-types. I really like this thing's synergy with Dragapult as Dragapult can easily KO Ghost-types, that even with Dark Pulse can be hard for PZ to deal with.
I seriously needed a way to combat both Fairy-types and Thundurus (since all of my max moves activate defiant so far) Nihilego does this perfectly. My set is really standard, with my spread boosting Speed whenever I kill something due to Beast Boost. Yeah, idk really what else to say about Jelly lol.
Finally, we come to the king himself, Landorus-T. I really needed Intimidate and an Electric/Regieleki immunity, and Lando has both. My EVs are pretty standard, with my speed investment being able to outspeed Dragapult at plus one Speed, and my HP is optimized to maximize bulk while also minimizing chip damage from Vine Lash. My moveset is the standard three attacks Lum Berry Swords Dance set, however with one move changing. I went with Stone Edge over Rock Slide. Reason being? Well, simple. Rock Slide hits like an old wet unwashed blanket. While I and my good friend Otter were testing this team, my plus two rock Slide did 17% to a max Dragonite, WITH NO MULTISCALE. While Stone Edge misses more often, it hits a lot harder.
So that's about my team, I really like it and it's pretty easy to use. See you guys later!
A very strong, very button clicky Hyper Offense
Hello all, hello SmogVGC. Here is my team for this week, and ho boy is it a strong one.
https://pokepast.es/23d1e7e527c91dcd
Here is big Pult itself. I went with a standard Life Orb 3 Attacks set. My speed allows me to outspeed every relevant Pokemon, with Tapu Koko being outsped by one point. My HP and Defense EVs allow me to be 2HKO'd by an Urshifu Sucker Punch, my HP is also optimized to take minimum Life Orb recoil. I really like Dragapult combined with my Urshifu since I can boost its Speed and give it a Pseudo-Choice Band with Max Phantasm.
I added Clefairy to this team because, in my opinion, it should be on every Hyper Offense team. Follow Me is just so good with set up attackers and just frail ones too. I went with standard moves, and my HP stat is optimized to take minimum Vine Lash damage while still maximizing HP. The Special Defense is to always live a Sludge Bomb/Max Ooze from Modest Life Orb Venusaur. I then just dumped the rest in Defense.
I went with Urshifu Single-Strike because its synergy with Dragapult is actually so broken. It also adds a Trick Room destroyer to this very fast and Trick Room weak team. EVs, item, and Moves are hella standard so no explanation needed.
I then added PorygonZ because I wanted a Special attacking Dynamax option. This shit actually slaps so hard and it's honestly my favorite Pokemon to use. I went with Silk Scarf since my Life Orb was taken (sidenote: I actually used LOrb on the original draft of my team but my Pult was hitting like a marshmallow with the Weakness Policy set I had), and my EV spread is pretty standard with Max Speed and almost Max Special attack. I decided to just give PorygonZ some bulk because it already hits so hard it doesn't necessarily need all of that Special Attack. My moves are standard, with Nasty Plot making this thing hit stupid hard, Hyper Beam maximizing power, and Dark Pulse letting me hit Ghost-types. I really like this thing's synergy with Dragapult as Dragapult can easily KO Ghost-types, that even with Dark Pulse can be hard for PZ to deal with.
I seriously needed a way to combat both Fairy-types and Thundurus (since all of my max moves activate defiant so far) Nihilego does this perfectly. My set is really standard, with my spread boosting Speed whenever I kill something due to Beast Boost. Yeah, idk really what else to say about Jelly lol.
Finally, we come to the king himself, Landorus-T. I really needed Intimidate and an Electric/Regieleki immunity, and Lando has both. My EVs are pretty standard, with my speed investment being able to outspeed Dragapult at plus one Speed, and my HP is optimized to maximize bulk while also minimizing chip damage from Vine Lash. My moveset is the standard three attacks Lum Berry Swords Dance set, however with one move changing. I went with Stone Edge over Rock Slide. Reason being? Well, simple. Rock Slide hits like an old wet unwashed blanket. While I and my good friend Otter were testing this team, my plus two rock Slide did 17% to a max Dragonite, WITH NO MULTISCALE. While Stone Edge misses more often, it hits a lot harder.
So that's about my team, I really like it and it's pretty easy to use. See you guys later!
https://pokepast.es/ffe4b22d1cfbb555
Drapapult is easily one of my favorite mons this gen, with one of the highest base speed stats in the game currently and an amazing ability its a premier Dmax threat capable of overwhelming opponents. Now, lets dive into the team.
To start us off we have the mon of the week in Dragapult, I chose a Weakness Policy set over the standard Life Orb/Safety Goggles sets. just because I like to be a different. Pults great speed stat and dual stab combination makes it such a scary wp abuser, with not many pokemon resisting ghost type attacks and setting up partners like Mienshao and Mamoswine for easy ko's on opponents who have gotten their defense stat lowered from Max Phantasm. You may also notice that this pult has dive, I couldnt quite decide on protect, dragon dance, dive, or steel wing. I decided on dive to help out with the coalossal matchup along with rotom heat match up.
Mienshao will win one of these weeks! Anyway besides being one of my favorite mons to use Mienshao does a ton for the team. It is able to taunt trick room setters like porygon2 and Dusclops along with providing great damage with close combat. Paired with Dragapults Max Phantasm Mienshaos close combat packs quite a punch being able to ko mostly anything it hits super effectively. Mienshao can provides the team with coaching support to boost mamoswines and even rillabooms defense and attack stat to deal massive ammounts of damage.
Next up we have Mamoswine, Its main roll on the team is to proc pults WP with iceshard and to deal with moltres galar and Thundurus. This mamoswine is holding a grassy seed to boost its quite average defense stat. Holding the grassy seed means mamoswine can live loads of physical attacks that normally it won't live. This spread in particular lives 252+ adamant choice banded rillaboom wood hammer in grassy terrain.
Clefairy is the perfect partner for dragapult being able to redirect super effective dark/ghost/dragon type moves away from dragapult. Friend Guard also helps out a ton as it allows pult to take not nearly as much damage as it normally would from super effective attacks and then activate its weakness policy.
Rotom is mainly here to better help vs Sun, Celesteela, and Glastrier who other wise are pretty problematic for Dragapult. After a nasty plot Rotom can easily plow thru teams and paired with Clefairy's Helping Hand it doesnt even need to set up a nasty plot.
And lastly we have rillaboom, its job is to deal with water types such as Rotom-Wash and Tapu Fini. Believe it or not rillaboom can also be a dynamax Candidate paired with either Clefairy or Mienshao. This is most noteable in the Lapras MU, as Gmax Drumsolo OHKOS Gmax Lapras before it can get a resonance off
Most of the time your going to want to lead Dragapult+Mamaoswine/Mienshao. Mienshao+dragapult stops virtually any form of trick room set up t1 with Mienshao being able to either Taunt/Fake Out the Trick Room setter and let pult maintain speed Control. Leading Mamo+Pult is another good lead option if your opponent doe not have redirection u could ice shard pult t1 and fire off a powerful max phantasm/max wyrmwind into your opponent. I tend to like bringing clefairy in the back so whenever Mienshao/ MAmoswine faints Clefairy comes in for free and is able to support Dragapult. It is also worth noting that 172+ speed dragapult outspeeds the lazy people who ev their own dragapult to outspeed base 130s by 1 point
252+ Atk Choice Band Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. +1 20 HP / 68 Def Dynamax Mamoswine in Grassy Terrain: 314-372 (83.5 - 98.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery +1 172 Atk Mamoswine Max Hailstorm vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Dynamax Moltres-Galar: 344-408 (103.6 - 122.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Dragapult Helping Hand Max Geyser vs. 52 HP / 28 Def Dynamax Coalossal-Gmax: 352-416 (91.6 - 108.3%) -- 50% chance to OHKO +2 252 Atk Dragapult Max Geyser vs. 52 HP / 28 Def Dynamax Coalossal-Gmax: 468-552 (121.8 - 143.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Dragapult Max Geyser vs. 132 HP / 0 Def Dynamax Rotom-Heat: 264-312 (92.9 - 109.8%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO 116+ Atk Rillaboom-Gmax Helping Hand G-Max Drum Solo vs. 156 HP / 52 Def Dynamax Lapras-Gmax in Grassy Terrain: 576-680 (128 - 151.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Mienshao Close Combat vs. -1 0 HP / 0 Def Dynamax Regigigas: 278-330 (75.1 - 89.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I enjoyed making it as it features some of my favorite mons to use this series. I hope to see some of you trying this team out!
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OK, here's the team I made. SemiRoom featuring Screens Dragapult.
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Here's the breakdown.
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Here's the breakdown.
Dragapult's role is to facilitate a sweep from either of Zapdos, Rillaboom, Alolawak or Stakataka. Reflect and Light Screen are self explanatory, as is Light Clay to keep them going longer. Draco Meteor and Shadow Ball are the STAB moves, and still hit pretty hard. Since this set doesn't max, I went with a special set as that is less reliant on it. I also used an offensive EV spread because even with investment Dragapult isn't very bulky, and it means it's not dead weight once the screens are up.
No you're not hallucinating, that is Galarian Zapos. I noticed my team was majorly weak to Intimidate and the Torkoal + Earth Power Venusaur core. So Galarian Zapdos was a nice interim measure. Marowak, Stakataka and Rillaboom all draw in Intimidators, which of course this crazy chocobo feasts on. Adrenaline Orb + Defiant means if I get Intimidated I can have +1 Speed and +1 Attack right out of the gate. Brave Bird and Close Combat get STAB - Throat Chop is nice coverage.
Tapu Fini can crucify my team (though it still doesn't like taking Max moves from Alolawak and Stakataka), so I needed something to deal with it. I originally had Assault Vest Rillaboom on here, but I decided to experiment with Choice Band and so far I've been delighted with the results. Early game its role is to break holes with Wood Hammer, while late game it can clean with Grassy Glide. G Max Drum Solo is more useful than Max Overgrow, so I went with the G Max form even though it almost never maxes.
Nowadays, pretty much every hyper offensive team needs a Clefairy, so that's what I've put on my team. It's the standard support set, nothing new to talk about here really. Fairy I find has better resistances on the physical side, so it has max physical defence. As TV tropes would put it, Clef is boring but practical: its job is to protect its teammates.
Alolawak has two roles on my team. 1: Sweep under Trick Room. 2: Keep Electric moves away from Zapdos. In turn, Zapdos makes Incineroar deeply regret switching in. If it can avoid Sleep Powder it can deal with the Torkoal + Venusaur core pretty nicely, which is a massive threat to Trick Room teams. Poltergeist and Flare Blitz get STAB, both having 140 BP when maxed which is insane coming off such a massive Attack stat. Bonemerang gets coverage on the likes of Incineroar, Tyranitar and Nihilego.
Lastly we have Stakataka, whose main role is to sweep under Trick Room. It's the standard OTR set, but with a few tweaks. I went with a Brave nature and perfect IVs everywhere apart from Speed, because this boosts its Defence with Beast Boost. Why would I want that? Well, it's a nasty surprise for Incineroar, for one thing, and after a boost or two it also smashes Porygon2, Ferrothorn and even Celesteela. With Screens this thing is almost unkillable without super effecitve moves, which of course trigger its Weakness Policy.
I wanted to build around the TerraPult combo, as I think it's one of the most entertaining combos in the current format. Let's get to the team!
Dragapult (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Clear Body
Level: 50
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 0 SpA
- Dragon Darts
- Phantom Force
- Fly
- Beat Up
The crux of the team. Clear Body, 120 Attack, 142 Speed, Life Orb, Dragapult makes for a fantastic physical sweeper. Beat Up makes for an additional coverage move in Max Darkness, and the 4 points in SpD make Porygon2 gain an attack boost. Nothing too fancy.
Terrakion @ Lum Berry
Ability: Justified
Level: 50
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rock Slide
- Close Combat
- Helping Hand
- Protect
Beat Up+Justified partner. Lum Berry helps against burns, as well as opposing Venusaur/Amoonguss. Rock and Fighting are fantastic STABs in this format, hitting many of the most popular pokemon for super effective damage, without many resistances. Again, the 4 EVs in SpD are for opposing Porygon2. Helping Hand is very useful if I choose to dynamax Dragapult instead, leading to many surprise OHKOs.
Torkoal (M) @ Charcoal
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
EVs: 132 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 116 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Eruption
- Heat Wave
- Earth Power
- Protect
A Torkoal with speed investment?? This is in order to speed creep Glastrier, as otherwise it is a huge threat to the VenuKoal lead, especially with redirection support. The rest is quite self explanatory, with Earth Power for opposing Nihilego and Coalossal, which otherwise pose a huge threat to Torkoal.
Venusaur-Gmax (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Chlorophyll
Level: 50
Gigantamax: Yes
EVs: 28 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 220 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Sludge Bomb
- Earth Power
- Sleep Powder
Torkoal's partner in crime. Focus Sash allows Venusaur to live any attack from full HP, which to my mind is slightly better than the alternative of Coba Berry. The speed investment allows Venusaur to outpace 252+ Spe Regieleki in Sun. Quite a simple yet effective set.
Porygon2 @ Eviolite
Ability: Download
Level: 50
EVs: 244 HP / 100 Def / 20 SpA / 132 SpD / 12 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Eerie Impulse
- Recover
- Trick Room
The new Cresselia. Ice Beam allows for a better match up against opposing Landorus-T and Garchomp, with Eerie Impulse to disrupt any annoying special attackers. The space duck also acts as a dedicated Spectrier check, as well as a fantastic trick room setter for Torkoal to abuse.
Celesteela @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Beast Boost
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 36 Def / 4 SpA / 132 SpD / 84 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Flash Cannon
- Air Slash
- Leech Seed
- Protect
What better way to finish a teambuilding competition entry than using the Pokemon from the previous challenge - Celesteela!
Celesteela is the perfect way to round out the team's exposed weaknesses: ground, dragon, flying and psychic. It also provides a good way to counter opposing Glastrier+Clefairy and even Amoonguss/Venusaur with Safety Goggles.
Feel free to try it out! I hope you enjoy :))
DragVile
Hello! I am here to showcase my week 5 team.
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Hello! I am here to showcase my week 5 team.
I got the idea of Dragapult Weavile from one of my friends Gfazzo. I think having a strategy of activating Weakness Policy with Ice Shard and capitalizing off Max Phantasm´s defense drops is Immense. A fast Weakness Policy abuser that´s damage output doesn´t lower is terrifying to go up against if you don´t have the right pokemon/ type advantage, that´s only with it alone. With the support of its teammates, it shouldn´t be something to underestimate.
As my first time using Weavile it´s good! I also used it because nobody else is using Weavile at the moment. Weavile is really good because it can use Ice Shard for two reasons, it can activate Dragapult´s Weakness Policy or it can break a potential Focus Sash. Triple Axel and Throat Chop are for strong STAB options. Fake-out is pretty obvious, it´s the fastest legal pokemon in VGC that has access to Fake Out. This also allows Weavile to win Fake Out wars without any modifiers. With either STAB, as I said earlier Weavile can capitalize off Max Phantasm´s defense drops if it ever needs to land some attacks off.
I´ve had several ideas of what should I have but I settled in with Venusaur because with a Torkoal pairing I don´t have to worry about fire types anymore, my main focus would have to be rock types. Venusaur could actually deal super effective damage on Tapu Fini as opposed to using Celesteela or Metagross. Venusaur+Weavile allows Venusaur to deal huge amounts of damage with the addition of Vine-lash damage while Weavile dealing with its flying type threats.
This is simple, along with Venusaur mostly you would bring Torkoal with on the team. Instead of running the usual offensive Charcoal or Shuca Berry, I was thinking bulky Sitrus Berry was an amazing option to burn Glastriers. Yawn is also a great way to shut down physical dynamaxed targets and put huge pressure on them if not with Lum Berry or in Electric Terrain.
I wanted a rock resist that isn´t weak to fire, so Stakataka was the idea because I didn´t have any better options. Stakataka offers me a great Trick Room setter to the team as well as being a great physical attacker getting defense boost by Max Steelspike or getting a KO on a pokemon.
I didn´t have resist against Landorus-Therian and it would destroy my team. I thought having a flying type would work to be immune to Max Quake but I would just be weaker to rock types. The first thing that came to my mind was Levitate to be immune to its ground moves. Rotom-Wash was the best option because none of its main moves would hit it super effectively and I could use Nasty Plot. Then I could just Hydro Pump. Having one weakness as grass isn´t a problem at all having 4/6 of the team being resisted with the addition of being super effective.
Dragapult+Weavile has a great Trick Room MU with the addition to Stakataka and Torkoal. Weavile can help Venusaur with its Lando MU. Dragapult+Torkoal has a decent overall matchup against Glastrier. Stakataka+Weavile gets Trick Room up easier and Rotom-W+Weavile gets a Nasty Plot up easier.
-1 252+ Atk Life Orb Glastrier Max Hailstorm (130 BP) vs. 164 HP / 4 Def Dynamax Dragapult: 283-338 (76.9 - 91.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Moltres-Galar Max Darkness (130 BP) vs. 164 HP / 4 SpD Dynamax Dragapult: 304-359 (82.6 - 97.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Magnet Transistor Regieleki Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 124 SpD Torkoal: 144-171 (81.3 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Glastrier Max Quake (130 BP) vs. 252 HP / 132+ Def Torkoal: 143-169 (80.7 - 95.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Rillaboom-Gmax Grassy Glide vs. 252 HP / 36 Def Dynamax Rotom-W in Grassy Terrain: 228-270 (72.6 - 85.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 140+ SpA Rotom-W Max Geyser (140 BP) vs. 244 HP / 44 SpD Dynamax Landorus-T: 468-552 (120 - 141.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
-1 252 Atk Weavile Triple Axel (3 hits) vs. -1 244 HP / 4 Def Dynamax Landorus-T: 432-516 (110.7 - 132.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 172 Atk Dragapult Max Wyrmwind (130 BP) vs. 252 HP / 124 Def Incineroar: 189-223 (93.5 - 110.3%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Moltres-Galar Max Darkness (130 BP) vs. 164 HP / 4 SpD Dynamax Dragapult: 304-359 (82.6 - 97.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Magnet Transistor Regieleki Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 124 SpD Torkoal: 144-171 (81.3 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Glastrier Max Quake (130 BP) vs. 252 HP / 132+ Def Torkoal: 143-169 (80.7 - 95.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Rillaboom-Gmax Grassy Glide vs. 252 HP / 36 Def Dynamax Rotom-W in Grassy Terrain: 228-270 (72.6 - 85.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 140+ SpA Rotom-W Max Geyser (140 BP) vs. 244 HP / 44 SpD Dynamax Landorus-T: 468-552 (120 - 141.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
-1 252 Atk Weavile Triple Axel (3 hits) vs. -1 244 HP / 4 Def Dynamax Landorus-T: 432-516 (110.7 - 132.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 172 Atk Dragapult Max Wyrmwind (130 BP) vs. 252 HP / 124 Def Incineroar: 189-223 (93.5 - 110.3%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
I enjoyed my first time using Weavile, I hope you guys can enjoy trying my team!
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