Project UU OM Megathread

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UU OM Megathread

This is a megathread for the UU variants of all of our permaladder OMs! These UU versions are viability-based, similar to how tiering was done prior to usage-based tiering; that way, if a ladder is too inactive or gets removed for any reason, we don't have skewed stats. Any OM is welcome to make a UU version of their OM, but those will need to be hosted in their individual threads for the time being.​

TL;DR:

• Viability-based UU tiers
  • Any Pokemon that is ranked B or higher is considered "OU"
  • B- or lower is considered UU
• This thread is for permaladders/circuit metagames only:
  • Almost Any Ability
  • Balanced Hackmons
  • Godly Gift
  • Inheritance
  • Mix and Mega
  • Partners in Crime
  • Shared Power
  • STABmons

We are waiting for the VRs for every permaladder/circuit metagame to be updated one more time (if necessary) before making the UU versions of each metagame public. Please be patient!

 

[dhelmise]

Almost Any Ability UU​

Banlist: Anything banned from Almost Any Ability, in addition to:
Pokemon:

AAA OU

• Corviknight
• Great Tusk
• Roaring Moon
• Swampert
• Chien-Pao
• Deoxys-Speed
• Gholdengo
• Azelf
• Ceruledge
• Deoxys-Defense
• Gengar
• Iron Boulder
• Iron Hands
• Iron Moth
• Manaphy
• Primarina
• Scream Tail
• Walking Wake
• Zapdos
• Barraskewda
• Cinderace
• Dragonite
• Empoleon
• Heatran
• Latios
• Mandibuzz
• Meloetta
• Ogerpon-Hearthflame
• Sandy Shocks
• Skarmory
• Zapdos-Galar
• Archaludon
• Blissey
• Garchomp
• Garganacl
• Goodra-Hisui
• Kingambit
• Landorus-Therian
• Meowscarada
• Mew
• Ogerpon-Cornerstone
• Ogerpon-Wellspring
• Pecharunt
• Slither Wing
• Terrakion
• Volcarona
• Zoroark-Hisui

AAA UUBL

Nothing yet.

Viability Rankings

Nothing yet.

Challenge Code

/chall [user], [Gen 9] Almost Any Ability @@@ -Corviknight, -Great Tusk, -Roaring Moon, -Swampert, -Chien-Pao, -Deoxys-Speed, -Gholdengo, -Azelf, -Ceruledge, -Deoxys-Defense, -Gengar, -Iron Boulder, -Iron Hands, -Iron Moth, -Manaphy, -Primarina, -Scream Tail, -Walking Wake, -Zapdos, -Barraskewda, -Cinderace, -Dragonite, -Empoleon, -Heatran, -Latios, -Mandibuzz, -Meloetta, -Ogerpon-Hearthflame, -Sandy Shocks, -Skarmory, -Zapdos-Galar, -Archaludon, -Blissey, -Garchomp, -Garganacl, -Goodra-Hisui, -Kingambit, -Landorus-Therian, -Meowscarada, -Mew, -Ogerpon-Cornerstone, -Ogerpon-Wellspring, -Pecharunt, -Slither Wing, -Terrakion, -Volcarona, -Zoroark-Hisui

 

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Balanced Hackmons UU​

Banlist: Anything banned from Balanced Hackmons, in addition to:
Pokemon:

BH OU

• Alakazam-Mega
• Arceus-Fairy
• Arceus-Ghost
• Arceus-Ground
• Arceus-Water
• Audino-Mega
• Ash-Greninja
• Blissey
• Celesteela
• Chansey
• Dialga-Origin
• Eternatus
• Flutter Mane
• Garchomp-Mega
• Ho-Oh
• Kyogre-Primal
• Lucario-Mega
• Lunala
• Miraidon
• Necrozma-Ultra
• Slowbro-Mega
• Steelix-Mega
• Swampert-Mega
• Yveltal

BH UUBL

Nothing yet.

Viability Rankings

Nothing yet.

Challenge Code

/chall [user], [Gen 9] Balanced Hackmons @@@ -Chansey, -Arceus-Ghost, -Arceus-Fairy, -Arceus-Ground, -Greninja-Ash, -Necrozma-Ultra, -Eternatus, -Alakazam-Mega, -Miraidon, -Flutter Mane, -Garchomp-Mega, -Audino-Mega, -Celesteela, -Slowbro-Mega, -Ho-Oh, -Lucario-Mega, -Lunala, -Blissey, -Steelix-mega, -Kyogre-Primal, -Yveltal, -Arceus-Water, -Dialga-Origin, -Swampert-Mega

 

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Godly Gift UU​

Banlist: Anything banned from Godly Gift, in addition to:
Pokemon:

GG OU

Gods

• Arceus
• Arceus-Fairy
• Arceus-Ghost
• Arceus-Ground
• Calyrex-Ice
• Deoxys
• Dialga
• Dialga-Origin
• Eternatus
• Groudon
• Ho-Oh
• Kyogre
• Kyurem-Black
• Kyurem-White
• Mewtwo
• Necrozma-Dusk-Mane
• Rayquaza
• Zacian-Crowned
• Zekrom

Receivers

• Alomomola
• Arcanine-Hisui
• Archaludon
• Baxcalibur
• Chien-Pao
• Clodsire
• Conkeldurr
• Corviknight
• Cresselia
• Dondozo
• Electrode-Hisui
• Empoleon
• Enamorus-Therian
• Excadrill
• Garganacl
• Gholdengo
• Glimmora
• Goodra-Hisui
• Gouging Fire
• Great Tusk
• Grimmsnarl
• Hatterene
• Heatran
• Hoopa-Unbound
• Hydrapple
• Iron Boulder
• Iron Hands
• Iron Treads
• Jirachi
• Kommo-o
• Landorus
• Landorus-Therian
• Latias
• Latios
• Manaphy
• Mandibuzz
• Meowscarada
• Milotic
• Moltres
• Ninetales-Alola
• Ogerpon
• Ogerpon-Cornerstone
• Ogerpon-Wellspring
• Pecharunt
• Polteageist
• Raging Bolt
• Reuniclus
• Ribombee
• Rillaboom
• Roaring Moon
• Rotom-Wash
• Samurott-Hisui
• Sandy Shocks
• Scizor
• Serperior
• Skarmory
• Skeledirge
• Slowking-Galar
• Sneasler
• Spectrier
• Terrakion
• Ting-Lu
• Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
• Urshifu-Single-Strike
• Volcanion
• Volcarona
• Walking Wake
• Weavile
• Weezing-Galar
• Zamazenta
• Zapdos

GG UUBL

Nothing yet

Viability Rankings

Nothing yet

Challenge Code

/chall [user], [Gen 9] Godly Gift @@@ -Arceus-Base, -Arceus-Fairy, -Arceus-Ghost, -Arceus-Ground, -Calyrex-Ice, -Deoxys-Base, -Dialga-Base, -Eternatus, -Giratina-Base, -Groudon, -Ho-Oh, -Kyogre, -Kyurem-Black, -Kyurem-White, -Mewtwo, -Necrozma-Dawn-Wings, -Necrozma-Dusk-Mane, -Rayquaza, -Zacian-Crowned, -Alomomola, -Arcanine-Hisui, -Archaludon, -Baxcalibur, -Chien-Pao, -Clodsire, -Conkeldurr, -Corviknight, -Deoxys-Defense, -Deoxys-Speed, -Dondozo, -Dragapult, -Electrode-Hisui, -Empoleon, -Enamorus-Therian, -Espathra, -Excadrill, -Flutter Mane, -Garganacl, -Gholdengo, -Glimmora, -Goodra-Hisui, -Gouging Fire, -Great Tusk, -Grimmsnarl, -Hatterene, -Hawlucha, -Heatran, -Hoopa-Unbound, -Hydrapple, -Iron Boulder, -Iron Hands, -Iron Moth, -Iron Treads, -Jirachi, -Keldeo, -Kommo-o, -Kyurem-Base, -Landorus-Therian, -Landorus-Base, -Latias, -Latios, -Manaphy, -Mandibuzz, -Maushold, -Meowscarada, -Mimikyu, -Moltres-Base, -Ninetales-Alola, -Ogerpon-Cornerstone, -Ogerpon-Wellspring, -Ogerpon-Base, -Pecharunt, -Polteageist, -Raging Bolt, -Reuniclus, -Ribombee, -Rillaboom, -Roaring Moon, -Rotom-Wash, -Samurott-Hisui, -Scizor, -Serperior, -Skarmory, -Skeledirge, -Slowking-Galar, -Sneasler, -Terrakion, -Ting-Lu, -Urshifu-Rapid-Strike, -Urshifu-Base, -Volcanion, -Volcarona, -Walking Wake, -Weavile, -Zamazenta-Base, -Zapdos-Base

 

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Inheritance UU​

Banlist: Anything banned from Inheritance, in addition to:
Pokemon:

Inheritance OU

• Annihilape
• Blissey
• Chansey
• Chien-Pao
• Corviknight
• Darkrai
• Deoxys-Speed
• Enamorus-Therian
• Fezandipiti
• Garchomp
• Gholdengo
• Goodra
• Goodra-Hisui
• Gouging Fire
• Great Tusk
• Heatran
• Infernape
• Iron Crown
• Iron Hands
• Iron Moth
• Kyurem
• Landorus-Therian
• Moltres
• Ogerpon-Hearthflame
• Primarina
• Raging Bolt
• Roaring Moon
• Sandy Shocks
• Sneasler
• Snorlax
• Suicune
• Terrakion
• Thundurus-Therian
• Ting-Lu
• Toxapex
• Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
• Walking Wake
• Zapdos
• Zapdos-Galar
• Zoroark-Hisui

Inheritance UUBL

Nothing yet

Viability Rankings

Nothing yet

Challenge Code

/chall [user], [Gen 9] Inheritance @@@ -Corviknight, -Enamorus-Therian, -Infernape, -Landorus-Therian, -Ogerpon-Hearthflame, -Primarina, -Suicune, -Thundurus-Therian, -Zoroark-Hisui, -Annihilape, -Blissey, -Chansey, -Chien-Pao, -Darkrai, -Deoxys-Speed, -Fezandipiti, -Garchomp, -Gholdengo, -Goodra-Base, -Goodra-Hisui, -Gouging Fire, -Great Tusk, -Heatran, -Iron Crown, -Iron Hands, -Iron Moth, -Kyurem-Base, -Moltres-Base, -Raging Bolt, -Roaring Moon, -Sandy Shocks, -Sneasler, -Snorlax, -Terrakion, -Ting-Lu, -Toxapex, -Urshifu-Rapid-Strike, -Walking Wake, -Zapdos-Base, -Zapdos-Galar

 

[KaenSoul]

Shared Power UU​

Banlist: Anything banned from Shared Power, in addition to:
Pokemon:

SP OU

• Basculegion-F
• Basculegion-M
• Cinderace
• Cloyster
• Crawdaunt
• Dragapult
• Houndstone
• Iron Valiant
• Trevenant
• Annihilape
• Armarouge
• Baxcalibur
• Blissey
• Bombirdier
• Breloom
• Calyrex-Ice
• Ceruledge
• Chansey
• Clodsire
• Conkeldurr
• Copperajah
• Corviknight
• Cresselia
• Cyclizar
• Decidueye
• Deoxys-Defense
• Deoxys-Speed
• Dialga-Origin
• Dialga
• Dragalge
• Drifblim
• Espathra
• Excadrill
• Farigiraf
• Flamigo
• Galvantula
• Giratina
• Giratina-Origin
• Golurk
• Goodra-Hisui
• Groudon
• Heatran
• Indeedee-M
• Iron Boulder
• Iron Bundle
• Iron Crown
• Klawf
• Kyogre
• Lilligant-Hisui
• Lycanroc-Dusk
• Lycanroc-Midnight
• Manaphy
• Maushold
• Meowscarada
• Mewtwo
• Necrozma
• Ogerpon-Wellspring
• Orthworm
• Palafin
• Palkia-Origin
• Perrserker
• Pincurchin
• Porygon2
• Porygon-Z
• Quagsire
• Quaquaval
• Regidrago
• Rillaboom
• Samurott-Hisui
• Scizor
• Smeargle
• Solgaleo
• Ting-Lu
• Toxicroak
• Tsareena
• Tyranitar
• Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
• Urshifu-Single-Strike
• Walking Wake
• Wo-Chien
• Zamazenta
• Zangoose

SP UUBL

Nothing yet

Viability Rankings

Nothing yet

Challenge Code

/chall [user], [Gen 9] Shared Power @@@ -Basculegion, -Basculegion-F, -Cinderace, -Cloyster, -Crawdaunt, -Dragapult, -Houndstone, -Iron Valiant, -Trevenant, -Annihilape, -Armarouge, -Baxcalibur, -Blissey, -Bombirdier, -Breloom, -Calyrex-Ice, -Ceruledge, -Chansey, -Clodsire, -Conkeldurr, -Copperajah, -Corviknight, -Cresselia, -Cyclizar, -Decidueye-Base, -Deoxys-Defense, -Deoxys-Speed, -Dialga, -Dialga-Origin, -Dragalge, -Drifblim, -Espathra, -Excadrill, -Farigiraf, -Flamigo, -Galvantula, -Giratina, -Giratina-Origin, -Golurk, -Goodra-Hisui, -Groudon, -Heatran, -Indeedee-Base, -Iron Boulder, -Iron Bundle, -Iron Crown, -Klawf, -Kyogre, -Lilligant-Hisui, -Lycanroc-Dusk, -Lycanroc-Midnight, -Manaphy, -Maushold, -Meowscarada, -Mewtwo, -Necrozma, -Ogerpon-Wellspring, -Orthworm, -Palafin, -Palkia-Origin, -Perrserker, -Pincurchin, -Porygon2, -Porygon-Z, -Quagsire, -Quaquaval, -Regidrago, -Rillaboom, -Samurott-Hisui, -Scizor, -Smeargle, -Solgaleo, -Ting-Lu, -Toxicroak, -Tsareena, -Tyranitar, -Urshifu, -Urshifu-Rapid-Strike, -Walking Wake, -Wo-Chien, -Zamazenta, -Zangoose

 

[dhelmise]

We are waiting for the VRs for every permaladder/circuit metagame to be updated one more time (if necessary) before making the UU versions of each metagame public. Please be patient!

 

[dhelmise]

Godly Gift UU is out!

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/uu-om-megathread.3735355/#post-9953235

 

[LOrd Fernado]

imma just show some teams i made for gguu (if they can be sample plz do) (i'll be posting more btw with each new metagame and vr change)

this team is pretty standard, imma little pissed comfey lost defog but oh well, at least it has knock off. comfey would probably be pretty good in gguu, and muk-a looks so underated.

now this is where the heat and trash begins. the milotic strat might be bad but it could work

 

[dhelmise]

Inheritance UU is out!

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/uu-om-megathread.3735355/#post-9953236

 

[KaenSoul]

Shared Power UU is now a thing. https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/uu-om-megathread.3735355/#post-9953240

 

[Isaiah]

AAA UU exists now: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/uu-om-megathread.3735355/post-9953233

 

[FishSucksAtPKMN]

just made a team for BH UU: idk if its good yet or not
https://pokepast.es/7e0f71439d40fcdd

 

[Notgamingreally]

Made my own uu bh team https://pokepast.es/ab3ea5e3afffc16a blace is probably one of the best mons in the tier on paper given how guzzlord is the best imp mon (astral calcs even easier + improofing doesn’t lie to something gimmicky like fc ting) and most of its typical checks like arc water ho oh pogre yv and maud are gone. Kyub is another strong breaker however it loses to what will probably be an incredibly popular fc in dondozo unless you run bolt strike.

just made a team for BH UU: idk if its good yet or not
https://pokepast.es/7e0f71439d40fcdd

Umbreon seems really weird over ting lu and blace wants to be mixed vc (if you want snr probably just go ). Non stab latios m seems awkward too.

 

[FishSucksAtPKMN]

Made my own uu bh team https://pokepast.es/ab3ea5e3afffc16a blace is probably one of the best mons in the tier on paper given how guzzlord is the best imp mon (astral calcs even easier + improofing doesn’t lie to something gimmicky like fc ting) and most of its typical checks like arc water ho oh pogre yv and maud are gone. Kyub is another strong breaker however it loses to what will probably be an incredibly popular fc in dondozo unless you run bolt strike.

Umbreon seems really weird over ting lu and blace wants to be mixed vc (if you want snr probably just go ). Non stab latios m seems awkward too.

i forgot ting lu existed oopsies
also i wanted to try an old set i ran with deoxys-a on bladephalon

 

[Notgamingreally]

i forgot ting lu existed oopsies
also i wanted to try an old set i ran with deoxys-a on bladephalon

It’s okay we all forget about ting lu sometimes
Also both blace and deo a are base 50/53 hp why would you run final gambit on them.

 

[FishSucksAtPKMN]

It’s okay we all forget about ting lu sometimes
Also both blace and deo a are base 50/53 hp why would you run final gambit on them.

copied it from a simpleNR lunala set

 

[PociekMociek]

Here's what the UU tiers would look like if we used usage instead of viability. I'll try to keep it updated between the month but I'm not promising anything.

AAA UUsage:

Pokemon that are UU by viability but have OU worthy usage

Iron Crown
Regieleki
Ting-Lu
Zamazenta

Pokemon that would be UU by usage but are OU by viability

Blissey
Garganacl
Goodra-Hisui
Meloetta
Mew
Ogerpon-Cornerstone
Slither Wing
Terrakion
Zapdos-Galar
Zoroark-Hisui

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9almostanyability @@@ -Archaludon, -Azelf, -Barraskewda, -Ceruledge, -Chien-Pao, -Cinderace, -Corviknight, -Deoxys-Defense, -Deoxys-Speed, -Dragonite, -Empoleon, -Garchomp, -Gengar, -Gholdengo, -Great Tusk, -Heatran, -Iron Boulder, -Iron Crown, -Iron Hands, -Iron Moth, -Kingambit, -Landorus-Therian, -Latios, -Manaphy, -Mandibuzz, -Meowscarada, -Ogerpon-Hearthflame, -Ogerpon-Wellspring, -Pecharunt, -Primarina, -Regieleki, -Roaring Moon, -Sandy Shocks, -Scream Tail, -Skarmory, -Swampert, -Ting-Lu, -Volcarona, -Walking Wake, -Zamazenta, -Zapdos

Inheritance UUsage:

Pokemon that are UU by viability but have OU worthy usage

Barraskewda
Deoxys-Defense
Gliscor
Iron Boulder
Kingambit
Landorus
Sylveon
Ursaluna

Pokemon that would be UU by usage but are OU by viability

Chien-Pao
Darkrai
Deoxys-Speed
Garchomp
Infernape
Iron Crown
Moltres
Ogerpon-Hearthflame
Raging Bolt
Terrakion
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
Zapdos

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9inheritance @@@ -Annihilape, -Barraskewda, -Blissey, -Chansey, -Corviknight, -Deoxys-Defense, -Enamorus-Therian, -Fezandipiti, -Gholdengo, -Gliscor, -Goodra, -Goodra-Hisui, -Gouging Fire, -Great Tusk, -Heatran, -Iron Boulder, -Iron Hands, -Iron Moth, -Kingambit, -Kyurem, -Landorus, -Landorus-Therian, -Primarina, -Roaring Moon, -Sandy Shocks, -Sneasler, -Snorlax, -Suicune, -Sylveon, -Thundurus-Therian, -Ting-Lu, -Toxapex, -Ursaluna, -Walking Wake, -Zapdos-Galar, -Zoroark-Hisui

Balanced Hackmons UUsage:

Pokemon that are UU by viability but have OU worthy usage

Aggron-Mega
Arceus
Arceus-Poison
Blaziken-Mega
Dondozo
Giratina
Heracross-Mega
Koraidon
Kyurem-Black
Magearna
Necrozma-Dusk-Mane
Palkia-Origin
Regieleki
Ting-Lu
Zacian

Pokemon that would be UU by usage but are OU by viability

Arceus-Water
Lucario-Mega
Slowbro-Mega

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9balancedhackmons @@@ -Aggron-Mega, -Alakazam-Mega, -Arceus, -Arceus-Fairy, -Arceus-Ghost, -Arceus-Ground, -Arceus-Poison, -Audino-Mega, -Blaziken-Mega, -Blissey, -Celesteela, -Chansey, -Dialga-Origin, -Dondozo, -Eternatus, -Flutter Mane, -Garchomp-Mega, -Giratina, -Greninja, -Heracross-Mega, -Ho-Oh, -Koraidon, -Kyogre-Primal, -Kyurem-Black, -Lunala, -Magearna, -Miraidon, -Necrozma-Dusk-Mane, -Necrozma-Ultra, -Palkia-Origin, -Regieleki, -Steelix-Mega, -Swampert-Mega, -Ting-Lu, -Yveltal, -Zacian

Godly Gift UUsage:

Pokemon that are UU by viability but have OU worthy usage

Araquanid
Clefable
Ditto
Marill
Weezing-Galar

Pokemon that would be UU by usage but are OU by viability

Arcanine-Hisui
Arceus-Fairy
Arceus-Ghost
Arceus-Ground
Baxcalibur
Conkeldurr
Deoxys
Deoxys-Speed
Dialga
Dondozo
Electrode-Hisui
Empoleon
Enamorus-Therian
Espathra
Excadrill
Flutter Mane
Goodra-Hisui
Gouging Fire
Grimmsnarl
Groudon
Hawlucha
Hoopa-Unbound
Hydrapple
Iron Boulder
Iron Moth
Jirachi
Keldeo
Kommo-o
Kyogre
Kyurem
Kyurem-White
Landorus
Landorus-Therian
Latios
Manaphy
Mandibuzz
Meowscarada
Mewtwo
Mimikyu
Moltres
Necrozma-Dawn-Wings
Ogerpon
Ogerpon-Cornerstone
Ogerpon-Wellspring
Pecharunt
Polteageist
Rayquaza
Reuniclus
Ribombee
Rillaboom
Scizor
Slowking-Galar
Sneasler
Terrakion
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
:urshifu-single-strike: Urshifu-Single-Strike
Volcanion
Walking Wake
Weavile
Zapdos

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9godlygift @@@ -Alomomola, -Araquanid, -Arceus, -Archaludon, -Calyrex-Ice, -Chien-Pao, -Clefable, -Clodsire, -Corviknight, -Deoxys-Defense, -Ditto, -Dragapult, -Eternatus, -Garganacl, -Gholdengo, -Giratina, -Glimmora, -Great Tusk, -Hatterene, -Heatran, -Ho-Oh, -Iron Hands, -Iron Treads, -Kyurem-Black, -Latias, -Marill, -Maushold, -Necrozma-Dusk-Mane, -Ninetales-Alola, -Raging Bolt, -Roaring Moon, -Rotom-Wash, -Samurott-Hisui, -Serperior, -Skarmory, -Skeledirge, -Ting-Lu, -Volcarona, -Weezing-Galar, -Zacian-Crowned, -Zamazenta

Shared Power UUsage:

Pokemon that are UU by viability but have OU worthy usage

Archaludon
Basculegion
Glimmora
Kleavor
Latias
Muk
Ursaluna-Bloodmoon

Pokemon that would be UU by usage but are OU by viability

Armarouge
Basculegion-F
:basculegion-m: Basculegion-M
Blissey
Bombirdier
Breloom
Ceruledge
Chansey
Cinderace
Clodsire
Cloyster
Copperajah
Corviknight
Cresselia
Cyclizar
Decidueye
Deoxys-Defense
Deoxys-Speed
Dialga
Dialga-Origin
Drifblim
Espathra
Excadrill
Farigiraf
Flamigo
Giratina
Golurk
Goodra-Hisui
Groudon
Iron Boulder
Iron Crown
Iron Valiant
Klawf
Manaphy
Meowscarada
Mewtwo
Necrozma
Ogerpon-Wellspring
Orthworm
Palafin
Palkia-Origin
Perrserker
Porygon2
Quagsire
Regidrago
Rillaboom
Samurott-Hisui
Smeargle
Solgaleo
Tsareena
Tyranitar
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
:urshifu-single-strike: Urshifu-Single-Strike
Walking Wake
Zangoose

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9sharedpower @@@ -Annihilape, -Archaludon, -Basculegion, -Baxcalibur, -Calyrex-Ice, -Conkeldurr, -Crawdaunt, -Dragalge, -Dragapult, -Galvantula, -Giratina-Origin, -Glimmora, -Heatran, -Houndstone, -Indeedee, -Iron Bundle, -Kleavor, -Kyogre, -Latias, -Lilligant-Hisui, -Lycanroc-Dusk, -Lycanroc-Midnight, -Maushold, -Muk, -Pincurchin, -Porygon-Z, -Quaquaval, -Scizor, -Ting-Lu, -Toxicroak, -Trevenant, -Ursaluna-Bloodmoon, -Wo-Chien, -Zamazenta

History

March tier shifts:

Almost Any Ability

- Chansey
- Chesnaught
- Cresselia
- Iron Treads
- Regieleki
- Toxapex
- Zamazenta

+ Archaludon
+ Barraskewda
+ Blissey
+ Garganacl
+ Meloetta
+ Mew
+ Ogerpon-Cornerstone
+ Ogerpon-Hearthflame
+ Ogerpon-Wellspring
+ Terrakion
+ Zapdos-Galar
+ Zoroark-Hisui

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9almostanyability @@@ -Azelf, -Ceruledge, -Chansey, -Chesnaught, -Chien-Pao, -Cinderace, -Corviknight, -Cresselia, -Deoxys-Defense, -Deoxys-Speed, -Dragonite, -Empoleon, -Garchomp, -Gengar, -Gholdengo, -Goodra-Hisui, -Gouging Fire, -Great Tusk, -Heatran, -Iron Boulder, -Iron Hands, -Iron Moth, -Iron Treads, -Kingambit, -Landorus-Therian, -Latios, -Manaphy, -Mandibuzz, -Meowscarada, -Pecharunt, -Primarina, -Regieleki, -Roaring Moon, -Sandy Shocks, -Scream Tail, -Skarmory, -Slither Wing, -Swampert, -Toxapex, -Volcarona, -Walking Wake, -Zamazenta, -Zapdos

Inheritance

- Azelf
- Chandelure
- Deoxys-Defense
- Gliscor
- Hatterene
- Jirachi
- Latios
- Meowscarada
- Sinistcha
- Spiritomb
- Swampert
- Sylveon
- Ursaluna
- Zarude

+ Chien-Pao
+ Fezandipiti
+ Infernape
+ Raging Bolt
+ Terrakion
+ Thundurus-Therian
+ Walking Wake
+ Zoroark-Hisui

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9inheritance @@@ -Annihilape, -Azelf, -Blissey, -Chandelure, -Chansey, -Corviknight, -Darkrai, -Deoxys-Defense, -Deoxys-Speed, -Enamorus-Therian, -Garchomp, -Gholdengo, -Gliscor, -Goodra, -Goodra-Hisui, -Gouging Fire, -Great Tusk, -Hatterene, -Heatran, -Iron Crown, -Iron Hands, -Iron Moth, -Jirachi, -Kyurem, -Landorus-Therian, -Latios, -Meowscarada, -Moltres, -Ogerpon-Hearthflame, -Primarina, -Roaring Moon, -Sandy Shocks, -Sinistcha, -Sneasler, -Snorlax, -Spiritomb, -Suicune, -Swampert, -Sylveon, -Ting-Lu, -Toxapex, -Ursaluna, -Urshifu-Rapid-Strike, -Zapdos, -Zapdos-Galar, -Zarude

Balanced Hackmons

- Aggron-Mega
- Arceus-Poison
- Blaziken-Mega
- Giratina
- Gyarados-Mega
- Heracross-Mega
- Koraidon
- Kyurem-Black
- Magearna
- Melmetal
- Ting-Lu
- Zacian

+ Arceus-Water
+ Lucario-Mega
+ Slowbro-Mega

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9balancedhackmons @@@ -Aggron-Mega, -Alakazam-Mega, -Arceus-Fairy, -Arceus-Ghost, -Arceus-Ground, -Arceus-Poison, -Audino-Mega, -Blaziken-Mega, -Blissey, -Celesteela, -Chansey, -Dialga-Origin, -Eternatus, -Flutter Mane, -Garchomp-Mega, -Giratina, -Greninja, -Gyarados-Mega, -Heracross-Mega, -Ho-Oh, -Koraidon, -Kyogre-Primal, -Kyurem-Black, -Lunala, -Magearna, -Melmetal, -Miraidon, -Necrozma-Ultra, -Steelix-Mega, -Swampert-Mega, -Ting-Lu, -Yveltal, -Zacian

Godly Gift

- Araquanid
- Clefable
- Grafaiai
- Greninja
- Pelipper
- Tinkaton
- Torkoal

+ Arcanine-Hisui
+ Arceus-Fairy
+ Arceus-Ghost
+ Arceus-Ground
+ Baxcalibur
+ Chien-Pao
+ Conkeldurr
+ Deoxys
+ Deoxys-Speed
+ Dialga
+ Dondozo
+ Electrode-Hisui
+ Empoleon
+ Enamorus-Therian
+ Espathra
+ Excadrill
+ Garganacl
+ Giratina
+ Goodra-Hisui
+ Gouging Fire
+ Grimmsnarl
+ Groudon
+ Hawlucha
+ Heatran
+ Hydrapple
+ Iron Boulder
+ Iron Moth
+ Iron Treads
+ Jirachi
+ Keldeo
+ Kommo-o
+ Kyogre
+ Kyurem
+ Kyurem-White
+ Landorus
+ Landorus-Therian
+ Latias
+ Latios
+ Manaphy
+ Mandibuzz
+ Mewtwo
+ Mimikyu
+ Moltres
+ Necrozma-Dawn-Wings
+ Ninetales-Alola
+ Ogerpon
+ Ogerpon-Cornerstone
+ Ogerpon-Wellspring
+ Pecharunt
+ Polteageist
+ Rayquaza
+ Ribombee
+ Rillaboom
+ Scizor
+ Skeledirge
+ Slowking-Galar
+ Terrakion
+ Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
+:urshifu-single-strike: Urshifu-Single-Strike
+ Volcanion
+ Volcarona
+ Walking Wake
+ Weavile
+ Zamazenta
+ Zapdos

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9godlygift @@@ -Alomomola, -Araquanid, -Arceus, -Archaludon, -Calyrex-Ice, -Clefable, -Clodsire, -Corviknight, -Deoxys-Defense, -Dragapult, -Eternatus, -Flutter Mane, -Gholdengo, -Glimmora, -Grafaiai, -Great Tusk, -Greninja, -Hatterene, -Ho-Oh, -Hoopa-Unbound, -Iron Hands, -Kyurem-Black, -Maushold, -Meowscarada, -Necrozma-Dusk-Mane, -Pelipper, -Raging Bolt, -Reuniclus, -Roaring Moon, -Rotom-Wash, -Samurott-Hisui, -Serperior, -Skarmory, -Sneasler, -Ting-Lu, -Tinkaton, -Torkoal, -Zacian-Crowned

Shared Power

- Glimmora
- Kleavor
- Muk-Alola
- Ursaluna-Bloodmoon

+ Armarouge
+:basculegion-m: Basculegion-M
+ Blissey
+ Bombirdier
+ Breloom
+ Ceruledge
+ Chansey
+ Cinderace
+ Clodsire
+ Copperajah
+ Corviknight
+ Cresselia
+ Cyclizar
+ Decidueye
+ Deoxys-Defense
+ Deoxys-Speed
+ Dialga
+ Dialga-Origin
+ Drifblim
+ Espathra
+ Excadrill
+ Farigiraf
+ Flamigo
+ Giratina
+ Golurk
+ Goodra-Hisui
+ Iron Boulder
+ Iron Bundle
+ Iron Valiant
+ Klawf
+ Kyogre
+ Manaphy
+ Meowscarada
+ Mewtwo
+ Necrozma
+ Ogerpon-Wellspring
+ Orthworm
+ Palafin
+ Palkia-Origin
+ Porygon2
+ Quagsire
+ Regidrago
+ Smeargle
+ Solgaleo
+ Toxicroak
+ Tsareena
+ Tyranitar
+ Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
+:urshifu-single-strike: Urshifu-Single-Strike
+ Walking Wake
+ Zangoose

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9sharedpower @@@ -Annihilape, -Basculegion-F, -Baxcalibur, -Calyrex-Ice, -Cloyster, -Conkeldurr, -Crawdaunt, -Dragalge, -Dragapult, -Galvantula, -Giratina-Origin, -Glimmora, -Groudon, -Heatran, -Houndstone, -Indeedee, -Iron Crown, -Kleavor, -Lilligant-Hisui, -Lycanroc-Dusk, -Lycanroc-Midnight, -Maushold, -Muk-Alola, -Perrserker, -Pincurchin, -Porygon-Z, -Quaquaval, -Rillaboom, -Samurott-Hisui, -Scizor, -Ting-Lu, -Trevenant, -Ursaluna-Bloodmoon, -Wo-Chien, -Zamazenta

 

[KaenSoul]

Here's what the UU tiers would look like if we used usage instead of viability. I'll try to keep it updated between the month but I'm not promising anything.

AAA UUsage:

Pokemon that are UU by viability but have OU worthy usage

Chansey
Chesnaught
Cresselia
Gouging Fire AAA Ubers but has >4.52 usage
Iron Treads
Regieleki
Toxapex
Zamazenta

Pokemon that would be UU by usage but are OU by viability

Archaludon
Barraskewda
Blissey
Garganacl
Meloetta
Mew
Ogerpon-Cornerstone
Ogerpon-Hearthflame
Ogerpon-Wellspring
Terrakion
Zapdos-Galar
Zoroark-Hisui

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9almostanyability @@@ -Azelf, -Ceruledge, -Chansey, -Chesnaught, -Chien-Pao, -Cinderace, -Corviknight, -Cresselia, -Deoxys-Defense, -Deoxys-Speed, -Dragonite, -Empoleon, -Garchomp, -Gengar, -Gholdengo, -Goodra-Hisui, -Gouging Fire, -Great Tusk, -Heatran, -Iron Boulder, -Iron Hands, -Iron Moth, -Iron Treads, -Kingambit, -Landorus-Therian, -Latios, -Manaphy, -Mandibuzz, -Meowscarada, -Pecharunt, -Primarina, -Regieleki, -Roaring Moon, -Sandy Shocks, -Scream Tail, -Skarmory, -Slither Wing, -Swampert, -Toxapex, -Volcarona, -Walking Wake, -Zamazenta, -Zapdos

Balanced Hackmons UUsage:

Pokemon that are UU by viability but have OU worthy usage

Aggron-Mega
Arceus-Poison
Blaziken-Mega
Giratina
Gyarados-Mega
Heracross-Mega
Koraidon
Kyurem-Black
Magearna
Melmetal
Ting-Lu
Zacian

Pokemon that would be UU by usage but are OU by viability

Arceus-Water
Lucario-Mega
Slowbro-Mega

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9balancedhackmons @@@ -Aggron-Mega, -Alakazam-Mega, -Arceus-Fairy, -Arceus-Ghost, -Arceus-Ground, -Arceus-Poison, -Audino-Mega, -Blaziken-Mega, -Blissey, -Celesteela, -Chansey, -Dialga-Origin, -Eternatus, -Flutter Mane, -Garchomp-Mega, -Giratina, -Greninja, -Gyarados-Mega, -Heracross-Mega, -Ho-Oh, -Koraidon, -Kyogre-Primal, -Kyurem-Black, -Lunala, -Magearna, -Melmetal, -Miraidon, -Necrozma-Ultra, -Steelix-Mega, -Swampert-Mega, -Ting-Lu, -Yveltal, -Zacian

Godly Gift UUsage: i cba to differenciate between gods and followoers

Pokemon that are UU by viability but have OU worthy usage

Araquanid
Clefable
Grafaiai
Greninja
Pelipper
Tinkaton
Torkoal

Pokemon that would be UU by usage but are OU by viability

Arcanine-Hisui
Arceus-Fairy
Arceus-Ghost
Arceus-Ground
Baxcalibur
Chien-Pao
Conkeldurr
Deoxys
Deoxys-Speed
Dialga
Dondozo
Electrode-Hisui
Empoleon
Enamorus-Therian
Espathra
Excadrill
Garganacl
Giratina
Goodra-Hisui
Gouging Fire
Grimmsnarl
Groudon
Hawlucha
Heatran
Hydrapple
Iron Boulder
Iron Moth
Iron Treads
Jirachi
Keldeo
Kommo-o
Kyogre
Kyurem
Kyurem-White
Landorus
Landorus-Therian
Latias
Latios
Manaphy
Mandibuzz
Mewtwo
Mimikyu
Moltres
Necrozma-Dawn-Wings
Ninetales-Alola
Ogerpon
Ogerpon-Cornerstone
Ogerpon-Wellspring
Pecharunt
Polteageist
Rayquaza
Ribombee
Rillaboom
Scizor
Skeledirge
Slowking-Galar
Terrakion
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
Urshifu-Single-Strike
Volcanion
Volcarona
Walking Wake
Weavile
Zamazenta
Zapdos

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9godlygift @@@ -Alomomola, -Araquanid, -Arceus, -Archaludon, -Calyrex-Ice, -Clefable, -Clodsire, -Corviknight, -Deoxys-Defense, -Dragapult, -Eternatus, -Flutter Mane, -Gholdengo, -Glimmora, -Grafaiai, -Great Tusk, -Greninja, -Hatterene, -Ho-Oh, -Hoopa-Unbound, -Iron Hands, -Kyurem-Black, -Maushold, -Meowscarada, -Necrozma-Dusk-Mane, -Pelipper, -Raging Bolt, -Reuniclus, -Roaring Moon, -Rotom-Wash, -Samurott-Hisui, -Serperior, -Skarmory, -Sneasler, -Ting-Lu, -Tinkaton, -Torkoal, -Zacian-Crowned

Inheritance UUsage:

Pokemon that are UU by viability but have OU worthy usage

Sylveon
Azelf
Meowscarada
Swampert
Chandelure
Deoxys-Defense
Zarude
Jirachi
Hatterene
Ursaluna (Inh Ubers)
Spiritomb
Latios
Gliscor
Sinistcha

Pokemon that would be UU by usage but are OU by viability

Fezandipiti
Raging Bolt
Walking Wake
Zoroark-Hisui
Chien-Pao
Thundurus-Therian
Infernape
Terrakion

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9inheritance @@@ -Annihilape, -Azelf, -Blissey, -Chandelure, -Chansey, -Corviknight, -Darkrai, -Deoxys-Defense, -Deoxys-Speed, -Enamorus-Therian, -Garchomp, -Gholdengo, -Gliscor, -Goodra, -Goodra-Hisui, -Gouging Fire, -Great Tusk, -Hatterene, -Heatran, -Iron Crown, -Iron Hands, -Iron Moth, -Jirachi, -Kyurem, -Landorus-Therian, -Latios, -Meowscarada, -Moltres, -Ogerpon-Hearthflame, -Primarina, -Roaring Moon, -Sandy Shocks, -Sinistcha, -Sneasler, -Snorlax, -Spiritomb, -Suicune, -Swampert, -Sylveon, -Ting-Lu, -Toxapex, -Ursaluna, -Urshifu-Rapid-Strike, -Zapdos, -Zapdos-Galar, -Zarude

Shared Power UUsage:

Pokemon that are UU by viability but have OU worthy usage

Glimmora
Indeedee
Kleavor
Muk-Alola
Ursaluna-Bloodmoon

Pokemon that would be UU by usage but are OU by viability

Armarouge
Basculegion-M
Blissey
Bombirdier
Breloom
Ceruledge
Chansey
Cinderace
Clodsire
Copperajah
Corviknight
Cresselia
Cyclizar
Decidueye
Deoxys-Defense
Deoxys-Speed
Dialga
Dialga-Origin
Drifblim
Espathra
Excadrill
Farigiraf
Flamigo
Giratina
Golurk
Goodra-Hisui
Indeedee-M
Iron Boulder
Iron Bundle
Iron Valiant
Klawf
Kyogre
Manaphy
Meowscarada
Mewtwo (SP Ubers)
Necrozma
Ogerpon-Wellspring
Orthworm
Palafin
Palkia-Origin
Porygon2
Quagsire
Regidrago
Smeargle
Solgaleo
Toxicroak
Tsareena
Tyranitar
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
Urshifu-Single-Strike
Walking Wake
Zangoose

UUsage Challcode

/challenge gen9sharedpower @@@ -Annihilape, -Basculegion-F, -Baxcalibur, -Calyrex-Ice, -Cloyster, -Conkeldurr, -Crawdaunt, -Dragalge, -Dragapult, -Galvantula, -Giratina-Origin, -Glimmora, -Groudon, -Heatran, -Houndstone, -Indeedee, -Iron Crown, -Kleavor, -Lilligant-Hisui, -Lycanroc-Dusk, -Lycanroc-Midnight, -Maushold, -Muk-Alola, -Perrserker, -Pincurchin, -Porygon-Z, -Quaquaval, -Rillaboom, -Samurott-Hisui, -Scizor, -Ting-Lu, -Trevenant, -Ursaluna-Bloodmoon, -Wo-Chien, -Zamazenta

History

Nothing yet!

I think you got confused by Indeedee in SP, Indeedee in the usage stats represents the male one, while the female one appear as Indeedee-F, they have different stats and movepools so they are tiered as different pokémon.
Indeedee-M is OU by both usage and viability, while Indeedee-F is UU by both usage and viability.

 

[Tea Guzzler]

just made a team for BH UU: idk if its good yet or not
https://pokepast.es/7e0f71439d40fcdd

outside of things like ting over umbreon, the wincons on this team do have a few problems; mtar just isn't improofed and you have to sack something to get registeel in, and even if imp somehow lets you shackle them, you're still losing the interaction because you can't topsy ttar (dark-types are immune to prank-boosted moves). gambit on blace also doesn't really make any sense given the huge HP of its main check, ting-lu, and blace's measly base 53 HP + rocks weakness; stored power on blace also just defeats the entire point in having spooky plate + judgment, which is that imposter users can't damage you. to fix this i would probably make umbreon a ting-lu, remove the ttar altogether for something like koraidon or a take heart arceus, and make blace possibly v-create over stored power.

Made my own uu bh team https://pokepast.es/ab3ea5e3afffc16a blace is probably one of the best mons in the tier on paper given how guzzlord is the best imp mon (astral calcs even easier + improofing doesn’t lie to something gimmicky like fc ting) and most of its typical checks like arc water ho oh pogre yv and maud are gone. Kyub is another strong breaker however it loses to what will probably be an incredibly popular fc in dondozo unless you run bolt strike.

outside of kyurem having no item, you have two rocks-weak wincons with zero removal options and a regenvest ferrothorn that isn't really doing anything (you already have a palkia-o check in zacian). sap on dondozo seems like very wishful thinking. there's also some optimizations like rash blace, jolly zac, and min speed dondozo that can be made. i'd probably lean most into ditching ferrothorn for some more sound removal here

 

[Notgamingreally]

outside of kyurem having no item, you have two rocks-weak wincons with zero removal options and a regenvest ferrothorn that isn't really doing anything (you already have a palkia-o check in zacian). sap on dondozo seems like very wishful thinking. there's also some optimizations like rash blace, jolly zac, and min speed dondozo that can be made. i'd probably lean most into ditching ferrothorn for some more sound removal here

https://pokepast.es/0b4b734c1f97ee42 I made a few edits replacing ferro with ting lu for removal (also I thought blace ran naughty not rash)

 

[skippergamez]

AAA UU Update

UU -> OU
OU -> UU

 

[All Lice]

I'm having a good amount of fun playing BHUU this ladder rotation. Laddered with this team to a peak of 1314 (I got a teensy bit higher but only have proof for this high)

Improof Measures

Gyara Self Improofs via trapping. This is a recreation of a killer Kyurem B set from Gen 7 BH.
Sceptile is improofed by Altaria
Altaria is improofed by Metagross
Metagross is improofed by Mence as long as it preserves Cloak
Arc isn't really improofed but isn't an imminent threat. Possible issue
Mence self improofs

Notes

A sorta balance team that thrives on abusing the strength of trapping and farming Guzzlord.
Gyara is quite possibly one of the best legal mons in the tier. As stated earlier this set was based off Kyurem B set I loved using in Gen 7 BH that traps imposter and sets up on it. Very often you can trap non-imposter mons and set up on them.

Scept is just a set I've seen a lot of people run around with and saw it was legal. Strong + My main source of Speed control. If you predict the imposter switch you can blow them up with Dragon Energy

Altaria is here because it's the most solid improof for Scept I could think of. Heavy 4mss syndrome, pick whatever utility you want here.

Metagross is because I LOVE GAMBLING. Very aware this is notverygood but it's fun. Sand fishes for burns. Lucario fits better here but your neutral to fairy and that's bad when most the team is weak to it

Arc is utility and my sole knocker to allow Metagross to do it's job. Sap blocker. Prank + Topsy Turvy/Haze might work better here. Fire to resist fairy, poison and dark are other options

Mence is an unconventional to say the least unaware improof to Metagross. This was supposed to be Yveltal but he's not legal. Self improofs and is occasionally serves as a standard unaware wall. Could also be something like Ting-Lu or even Mega Ttar instead if you don't have to worry about improofing the Gross.

Issues

1. Speed control is icky
2. Mence is not the most reliable form of set up control in the world
3. Metagross has you praying for 60% chances
4. No pivot moves so maintaining momentum feels difficult at times
5. Less knockers than I'd like
6. Fairy types are annoying but there isn't too many good ones legal rn
7. There's probably a dozen possible threats like Galvanize Zekrom that run me over that I simply am unaware of atm

Anyways I'm having fun with the tier right now and there's no issues with the meta (at least that aren't also present in standard BH) that I can gleam. I hope that my little drabble can inspire others with their adventures in the tier!

 

[dhelmise]

Some quick GG UU changes with the VR update we just did:

Gods:

Gain: ​

Lose: ​

Receivers:

Gain: ​

Lose: ​