Wonder if Sylvally is finally decent with Defog. also I am happy for Guzzlord getting cool physical STaB
Ledian lol
Ledian lol
Are you going to be able to implement Splintered Stormshards? Because I really think Lycanroc could be a lot better in this meta, as it now has actual coverage.quick one:
me and eternally discussed this and defog watervally + mega dino seems like a nice core, as watervally provides a GSI for lix and manages to defog on it pretty easily, mega audino provides wish support (tho you could argue that rest on silvally is now a legit choice in the 4th moveslot, surt parting defog rest/toxix would probably be the ideal set) this can be utilized on bulkier teams but also seems like a valueable core for stall teams
looking forward to the future meta, and a i'll use this thread as some promo: I'll be hosting a usm nu specualtion tour around 6pm sunday gmt +1, be sure to hang out in the room to stay up to date
Everyone didSomebody else noticed Lurantis getting Superpower?
Elaborate more please?I'm not sure if this is a glitch or not, but if you set your Silvally to regular Normal type and you give it a Plate, it will still appear normal but have the effects of whatever Plate you set it to. Thought I'd share that here because it sounds pretty relevant.
If you send out the Silvally in game, it will appear as a Normal type to you and your opponent. So, there's no way to truly know the type of the Silvally unless you attack it. I feel like that could cause some problems.Elaborate more please?
probably a custom game glitch.If you send out the Silvally in game, it will appear as a Normal type to you and your opponent. So, there's no way to truly know the type of the Silvally unless you attack it. I feel like that could cause some problems.
the tour will be current NU meta with new moves and HAs released, not much more i can do.Are you going to be able to implement Splintered Stormshards? Because I really think Lycanroc could be a lot better in this meta, as it now has actual coverage.
Actually you're probably right, we'll see after though.probably a custom game glitch.
the tour will be current NU meta with new moves and HAs released, not much more i can do.
Hard to say about rapid spinners dropping- they help keep your own hazards up, but they’ll definitely drop some in usage. Part of it will depend on matchup vs the new popular hazard removal, but I can’t see both of them staying RU.From what it looks like, RU has a lot more options for hazard control that it'll gladly take. Some of these could be taken from NU; for example Rotom-C (which was decent before cause of its typing) and Sigilyph (which has a niche as a magic guard defogger). With better hazard control, there's less need for Pokemon such as Donphan and Blastoise which are otherwise useless apart from spinning (Tsareena got a decent buff so I can see it staying RU). Furthermore, I can see Galvantula dropping on virtue of better hazard removal and a faster webs setter in Ribombee, both of which hurt Galvantula's niche as a webs setter.
What do you guys think? Can you see these mons dropping and if so, will they be good here?
I mean I dont disagree with you on being good in NU, but it is going to destroy in PU.Honestly Liquidation isn't as much of a boon for Kingler as people are making it out to be. With Sheer Force its power is 110.5, not much higher than Crabhammer's 100. While it has other advantages like accuracy and no LO recoil, this change will barely be enough to make it viable in PU, let alone NU.
Likely drops for when the USUM meta begins include mons that are already below the 3.41 mark, meaning that at their current rate they'll drop. (Heliolisk, Aerodactyl, and Comfey IIRC) Blastoise is another one I can see going down in the future, mainly in part for being more useless against a lot of the new hazard setters (Scald is a nice touch, but Blastoise's bulk is rather deceptive; Most builds would rather run Milo + Gligar or something). Its an obnoxiously high mon in usage, but if it were to drop, I see it as essentially a worse Vaporeon that spins (Z-Celebrate is just garb in general don't use it). Probably a 'glue' mon of sorts, but unless I'm convinced otherwise it'll face a lot of competition (though the loss Rotom-C would likely be a major point in its favor). The Tarantula vs Bee debate could end in the latter winning mainly due to its Fairy-typing giving it a good matchup vs a lot of top tier threats combined with its speed (despite Nidoqueen being a thing). I'd rather not discuss RU issues though, so Galvantula would be excellent for Webs, as it reliably beats Xatu (although IIRC it can't switch in to well vs Heat Wave), something Shuckle (and Smeargle, since that'll inevitably drop) desperately lacks. As a wallbreaker I'd rather use Vika, but being much faster and carrying an accurate Thunder are points in its favor, somewhat at least.From what it looks like, RU has a lot more options for hazard control that it'll gladly take. Some of these could be taken from NU; for example Rotom-C (which was decent before cause of its typing) and Sigilyph (which has a niche as a magic guard defogger). With better hazard control, there's less need for Pokemon such as Donphan and Blastoise which are otherwise useless apart from spinning (Tsareena got a decent buff so I can see it staying RU). Furthermore, I can see Galvantula dropping on virtue of better hazard removal and a faster webs setter in Ribombee, both of which hurt Galvantula's niche as a webs setter.
What do you guys think? Can you see these mons dropping and if so, will they be good here?
Don't invest in guzzlord's hp. Your spread increases its overall bulk by 11% but if you do 128 def / 128 spdef, you increase its overall bulk by 22%. It's because of that wonky hp:defense ratio.
Turns out ya boy Guzzlord got a total makeover this gen!
252 HP
252 Attack
4 Defense
Brave Nature
-Knock off
-Heavy Slam
-Drain Punch
-Outrage
Assault Vest
With two new and improved STABs and SOME form of recovery, Guzzlord becomes a pretty solid special tank that can dish out damage. It becomes even stronger with Trick Room/Wish support. Glad to see one of my favorite UBs is growing stronger!
Alternatively
252 HP
252 Attack
4 Special Defense
Sassy Nature
-Knock Off
-Stockpile/Iron Defense
-Drain Punch
-Dragon Tail
Leftovers/Sitrus berry
This is more of a gimmick set, as I have not done any calculations for it, and it is absurdly weak to Fairies. That said, I figured I would throw it out here.
RU has an huge boner for bad spinners and bad Pokémon in general. Donphan is the 6th most used Pokémon on the ladder despite being completely outclassed by Gligar already. Don't get your hopes up for Donphan and Blastoise dropping.From what it looks like, RU has a lot more options for hazard control that it'll gladly take. Some of these could be taken from NU; for example Rotom-C (which was decent before cause of its typing) and Sigilyph (which has a niche as a magic guard defogger). With better hazard control, there's less need for Pokemon such as Donphan and Blastoise which are otherwise useless apart from spinning (Tsareena got a decent buff so I can see it staying RU). Furthermore, I can see Galvantula dropping on virtue of better hazard removal and a faster webs setter in Ribombee, both of which hurt Galvantula's niche as a webs setter.
What do you guys think? Can you see these mons dropping and if so, will they be good here?
just wanna point our that 0/0 mew is no set, and not very relevant in NU but kingler was alright even before liquidation
set i used was sd/agility/crabhammer/xscissor w/buginium to easily kill bro at +2
now with LO SF liquidation it opens up a new door as a nice early game breaker and potentially late game cleaner, that can, given the right opportunity, set up on weaker physical attackers given its nice natural physical bulk. kingler could potentially even set up on slowbro, if its able to dodge the burn twice (which i know, is practically impossible)
another water type to look forward to in usm :o
to touch on the mentioned rise of electric types: no other electric types particulary stand out to me, as most of them struggle to deal with common electric resists/immunes, while they can run hp grass or ice, both usually fail to do significant damage to anything, and most lack the power rotom mow has. (zebstrika, manectric, pompomcorio ig) if heliolisk does end up dropping, i think its gonna be very hard to deal with, and its probably gonna be hard to adapt as not much really manages to answer electric+normal+surf coverage barring eg spdef gourgeist or possibly spdef miltank/audino 2 of which it can toxic by dropping thunderbolt and heavily pressure as a result (also not all audinos run heal bell)
mega steelix dropping to ru had also opened a door for registeel or bronzong to drop, (more rockers yay) which would give potentially comfey an even harder time. both of these would be decent answers for heliolisk though and i would like to see them drop
sorry for no caps and stuff i wrote on phone :x
you can always un-leave fam. Also somebody other than me use cb toxic mudsdale it's flamesdoes rotom really get defog now lmao
i left at the wrong time