Unban the hero we need for OU. Ya’ll missed Valentine’s Day as there was love mail in your inboxes. Free the hero! Palafin!
Breloom and scizor are significantly worse Pokémon than Palafin. This comparison is really poor.breloom and scizor both have a 60 base power priority move.
I did the math and if their piriority had 70 base power they would do almost the same ammount of damage that palafin's jet punch does.
Ogerpon is outlasted by Palafij through hazards and Palafin’s bulk up sets. It isn’t nearly as rock solid as you would want to believe. Rilla just loses to Tera+bulk up (and palafin can abuse terrain itself), and zama gets bodied by bulk up Palafin.the metagame has changed a lot since it got banned.
ogeron can keep it in check by absorbing its water moves.
there is also rilaboom which also has a priority stab that can hit it super effectively.
zamazenta should also be able to tank its hits.
dondozo was always an answer to it.
Adamant Gouging Fire does more than PalafinRemember the whole talk about how gouging fire is too strong in sun as it has a good chance to 2hko dozo from full. Let this be a reminder why palafin isn't coming back
252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Water Palafin-Hero Wave Crash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dondozo in Rain: 247-291 (49 - 57.7%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Protosynthesis Tera Fire Gouging Fire Raging Fury vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dondozo in Sun: 230-271 (45.6 - 53.7%) -- 42.2% chance to 2HKO
Also, raging fury is a better move than wave crash because you don't take massive amounts of recoil. Of course, gouging fire doesn't have a 60bp priority move to revenge kill faster mons, so I think palafin wins the "most bs calc" out of the two.Adamant Gouging Fire does more than Palafin
Except gouging fire is slower so can you really afford to run adamant and be outsped by tusk? Paladin doesn't mind so much because:Adamant Gouging Fire does more than Palafin
True, but adamant has such sheer power that tusk can't switch in more than once.Except gouging fire is slower so can you really afford to run adamant and be outsped by tusk? Paladin doesn't mind so much because:
252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Water Palafin-Hero Jet Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Great Tusk: 400-472 (92.1 - 108.7%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
That one doesn't even require rain
Yes you can, because sun has proto speed mons.Except gouging fire is slower so can you really afford to run adamant and be outsped by tusk? Paladin doesn't mind so much because:
252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Water Palafin-Hero Jet Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Great Tusk: 400-472 (92.1 - 108.7%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
That one doesn't even require rain
I've always liked the idea of sub-punch sets but I struggle with the execution in practise. Got any replays?Wanna talk about
Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ghost / Fighting / Water
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 36 Def / 208 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Focus Punch / Drain Punch
- Seed Bomb
- Bulk Up / Swords Dance
EV Spread maximizes recovery from PH, while also outspeeding 0 Speed Gliscor and 227 Speed Raging Bolt. The rest dumped in defense to make it a bit more tankier.
After the loss of Spore, this dude has been almost non-existant in the tier, so, I decided to try the PH set from Gen VI, and I think it is quite good, and have good qualities in this meta.
1.- Sub-FP is a fucking nuke, and it can be set up in front of many mons that are found in balance and stall, like Gliscor, Ting-Lu, Alomomola, even it can set up in front of Skarmory and Corviknight thanks to Bulk Up and/or Tera Ghost.
Tera Fighting has a 70% to 2HKO Dondozo from full HP with FP, guaranteed with SR.
2.- After Toxic Orb has been activated, this mon can be a Knock Off absorber from weak users like non-SD Gliscor, defensive Tusk and many other mons, while avoiding WoW and T-Wave from checks like Torkoal and Clef.
3.- This mon provides another answer to Kingambit, especially when opposing team has burned Tera. You can bait Sucker Punch with Bulk Up and Sub, and you will end KOing it given the chance. Even against Tera Fairy or Tera Flying without Tera Blast, you win.
4.- It can be a nuisance against rain, as it can set up Sub against a scaring Iron Treads. Then you just press FP, and deal massive damage to whatever dares to switch in. Tera Water can flip that MU in your favor, and you can bait Raging Bolt's Thunderclap with Sub or BU, as you outspeed its common EV spread. Also, Tera Water mess up with an unsuspecting Meow.
Of course there are more strong Fighting and Grass types like Tusk and Rilla, but this mon has some good shit under its sleeve. GIve it a try.
Serperior? You mean that pokemon that gets walled by every dragon and steel in the tier, is weak to all the hazards, is easily pp stalled, and that's outsped by 11 different viable pokemon in OU alone?Serperior? You mean the pokemon with a 357 speed that drops STAB leaf storms that double its SpAtk?! Behind a leech seed substitute!?
No thanks keep that thing in ubers!
I find it funny that these days any team with hammorott and ghold can be called hstack. You know, back in my day, we have to use jank like double hazards ferrothorn and defiant bisharp. But yeah, looks good besides a concerning lack of reliable checks for choice band gouging fire.Any thoughts on this hazard stack team I recently made? Probably should have made an alt because I dropped 100 Elo while playing and optimizing: https://pokepast.es/3887dc2b3dd18f6c
It could’ve been Spec.https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9ou-2064054533-0w0jmtl8g02535yitlbordh2qa93yicpw
I lost brain cells. Why didn’t he swap in his scarf latias to revenge kill my roaring moon
Serperior? You mean that Pokemon that can cheese through its checks if it gets a few lucky paras and if it can get going is really hard to stop but can also struggle to get going and is susceptible to common mons attacks.Serperior? You mean that pokemon that gets walled by every dragon and steel in the tier, is weak to all the hazards, is easily pp stalled, and that's outsped by 11 different viable pokemon in OU alone?
No thanks, keep that thing in UU!
What you talking about? Only bulls in this store is granbull and snubbullI think we should stop trying to seriously discuss trying to drop bulls into our delicate glass store while we have 8 bulls already rampaging inside of it. Adding another bull or two isn't going to solve the existing issue that bulls are trampling us to death.