I don't have the patience to write out a response to the rest of your post but Smogon's ban list is literally replicable on cartridge because both players can agree to simply not bring banned Pokemon/moves. You cannot disagree with your opponent putting your switch-in to sleep when they predicted that your currently asleep Pokemon was going to stay in and wake up.
Point being that if you load up a random Singles battle, your opp. might have banned mons/moves. It's arbitrary. When it comes to Sleep Clause, how about the players just agree not to click sleep moves if another Pokemon is already sleeping? Smogon isn't the Pokemon Company, so pure faithfulness to the original game's mechanics is a moot point.
Well now majority of Pokemon that learn any sleep move is now extremely broken if you do that.
The idea is if they do this, they disqualify themselves and the match is either treated as invalidated or a win for the player who didn't cheat. It's a bit strange that I have to explain how a gentleman's agreement works, but whatever.
That isn't how Sleep Clause works on Showdown, though. You can click sleep moves if the opponent already has a sleeping Pokemon, they just fail unless that Pokemon wakes up. This allows you to make certain plays you could not do under a gentleman's agreement on the cart. If your opponent has a sleeping mon in that's already burned some sleep turns, you're free to click Spore in case it wakes up on that turn, for example.
Pure faithfulness has always been a part of Smogon's tiering philosophy (which is part of the reason why there has always existed some controversy around Sleep Clause), as it should be. Modifying game mechanics to balance them is both a) by definition a complex ban, with all the accompanying futureproofing problems that inevitably accompanies those, and b) kind of a dangerous proposition in that it erodes precedent against other proposals to modify game mechanics in order to balance other mechanics.
A balanced mon abusing an already nerfed mechanic (and therefore doesn't compare to paralysis) sounds like the problem of the mechanic if we had to nerf it and it STILL becomes problematic across a nonzero amount of generations and Pokemon.
My lack of consistency is part of my ultimate goal of allowing Acid Rain in Gen 4. Gen 9 is just a stepping stone
Why use H-Avalugg over normal Avalugg at that point? Seems classic avalugg is bulkier (10 more base sp def, not like it matters much), and both require you to tera them 99% of the time.
+10 physical attack and rock stab for either actual usage or bluffing. Avalugg is gonna die to a light Gust anyway so the spdef drop doesn't really come into account.
I don’t like sleep, but cart accuracy is important because otherwise, why bother being cart accurate in other areas?
Because, frankly, if sleep mod could be replicated on cart, I would actively be working to keep it on PS. I think it does a pretty good job maintaining sleep balance. However, because it is different, my buddies that I do play cart with have to make rules for balancing. Some of my friends prefer banning sleep, while others like the “don’t click if one Mon is already asleep.” It would be nice to have an umbrella clause in place rather than making up our own rules for what is supposed to be OU play. Smogon does a really good job with balancing, so we like to adhere to its ruleset.
Dogshit take, borderline bait.
I'm sorry, I still don't get why everybody complains about sleep when Sleep Clause is there, and has been there for some time.
Darkrai should just be banned. The conversation all started with Darkrai coming back to OU. Reban it.
Because Smogon is supposed to emulate cart. Not be its own thing. We are not playing a made up game here, which is what would happen if we alter the game mechanics. Bans exist so that we don't have to implement stupid clauses that deviates the emualtor further away from actual game.
Sleep Clause shouldn't be a thing in the first place. That's why. Darkrai is not relevant to why sleep Clause shouldn't be a thing.
This post is just objectively incorrect. Sleep Clause has been controversial pretty much since it existed, and this conversation has bubbled up again and again and again whenever sleep becomes problematic. It's time to put this conversation to bed permanently. Ban sleep.
Hp Percentage displays are also not on cart. You want to get rid of that and sleep clause?
Like you said, there are only 48 pixels, so a percentage number is out of 100 and gives more information than cart.
I mentioned this before, but you can replicate this on cart with a Public Knowledge rule and mandate your opponent tell you if asked. Everyone owns a calculator.
Percentages are a quality of life feature that a player on cart can figure out with a calculator or their head. Current HP/Max HP = Health percentage.
Yes everybody wanted that. It's definitely not because people don't like dumb half-measures that were implemented when rules like Sand Rush Excadrill not being allowed on sand teams were a thing. Nobody wanted a blanket sleep move ban to be consistent with tiering policy.
