I wouldn't worry much about movepools, dlcs are going to give tutor moves so all the mons are going to get buffed and nerfed, unlike home mons that mostly got nerfed.
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Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]
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We already have Pelipper, which is significantly better than Politoed when it comes to being a Rain setter. Plus tutors are probably coming back, which likely means it'll get Defog again.
I'd argue that Snorlax is actually held back by the lack of recovery outside of Rest. Pure Normal isn't that bad of a typing when one is super fat, it's the inability to keep itself alive with the Speed stat of geriatric molasses that hurts.
Scald improve distribution returning?
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If scald returns and Smogon bans tera then SV will be dead and I'm suing Nintendo.
Gliscor I don't count on being a Major Tusk Check if he goes to Ice Spinner (but he WILL need it to hit the thing), but Gliscor brings a lot of stuff to the tier defensively between Ground/Flying and the Recovery Nerf far increasing the value of Poison Heal (whether or not he gets Roost back). It's basically the perfect stop to Sneasler and Spore users, for example, and can take advantage of that typing better than Lando thanks to that passive healing and maybe SD for Snowballing off the turns. Gliscor seems like exactly the kind of things Balance teams need, and not having to watch for Spikes is always a plus in this hellscape Meta.
As for Snorlax, I always wonder who refuses to give him Slack Off, considering he'd shoot right up to UU/RUBL minimum if he could get his health back without using Rest. I think a "just generically fat" Pokemon would be a good compliment to Tusk in OU given the latter's Physical lean.
As for Snorlax, I always wonder who refuses to give him Slack Off, considering he'd shoot right up to UU/RUBL minimum if he could get his health back without using Rest. I think a "just generically fat" Pokemon would be a good compliment to Tusk in OU given the latter's Physical lean.
Flygon back! My days primarily playing OU are probably numbered
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The only tutors we can confirm are coming back are the isle of armor ones given that Grassy Glide is in the game but also nerfed. And even if there are others, lets not forget that every few gens they change up the tutor moves. I wouldn't count on anything until we see it.
Yeah that is the animation for Scald. I'm honestly hoping instead of mass distribution, just a handful of mons get it via level up.
GF kinda regrets of making recovery moves being distributed so widely in the past, for both, in game and VGC, recovery moves break the game since during in-game the use of items becomes useless if any mon can heal itself and a strong mon like Mega Mence being able to use roost while it's partner do something else is too much for the format. On older gens, Wo-Chien and Ting-Lu would have get recovery moves but it looks like GF is more aware and tries to make more balanced mons, Ting Lu is already hated by VGC players, now imagine if it could just recover.
So they didn't remove scald to balance the game, they did it just to paywall it, curse you GF
To be fair, we don't know if it's a tutor move or if they redid some old mons movesets. While this is pretty damning evidence that it's back, lets wait to see what happens first.So they didn't remove scald to balance the game, they did it just to paywall it, curse you GF
This could still pare it down from 500 Pokemon to 50 Pokemon, which is at least an improvement.So they didn't remove scald to balance the game, they did it just to paywall it, curse you GF
Gotta say, Toxic Chain is kinda cracked. They have the ability to basically apply Toxic with any of their attacks.
I assume the typings of the Momotaro Trio are gonna be;
Okidogi - Grass/Poison
Munkidori - Water/Poison
Fezandipiti - Flying/Poison
I assume the typings of the Momotaro Trio are gonna be;
Okidogi - Grass/Poison
Munkidori - Water/Poison
Fezandipiti - Flying/Poison
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I think they'll either be like Urshifu and only have a base stat total of 550. Or be like other sub-legends and be 570-580. I bet the first to balance their abilities a bit like they did Urshifu. But we'll see. I am curious as seeing as they are special pokemon, there is an almost 0% chance they don't each have a signature move, or share a signature move.
"We nerfed toxic distribution so these could really shine" also maybe the chain will be a different factor from their typings. So the big one could be dark/fighting but still spread poison
Mightyena is in my top 25 favorite Pokemon ever, so when the DLC drops I will be making a writeup for it after a few weeks.
I'm extremely excited to see Pokemon like Milotic and Gliscor come back in the advent of Tera, this is going to be such a cool meta
lets be real about the Toxic Chain users:
Okidogi - Grass/Poison - Historically dogshit typing. If it has defensive stats pls explain why i would use this over Amoongus?
Munkidori - Water/Poison - Makes me think of Pex, but Pex shines bc of Regen and insane defensive stat distribution. In this meta with so many ground type threats if this thing has poor stats i dont see it being that big of a deal
Fezandipiti - Flying/Poison - Crobat typing, really struggles with Steel types. Flying means it basically has to use boots.
TBH guys i think these could end up being kinda mid. I think if you are really interested in spreading Toxic to your opponents team using Glimmora is likely still better.
Just my opinion!
Okidogi - Grass/Poison - Historically dogshit typing. If it has defensive stats pls explain why i would use this over Amoongus?
Munkidori - Water/Poison - Makes me think of Pex, but Pex shines bc of Regen and insane defensive stat distribution. In this meta with so many ground type threats if this thing has poor stats i dont see it being that big of a deal
Fezandipiti - Flying/Poison - Crobat typing, really struggles with Steel types. Flying means it basically has to use boots.
TBH guys i think these could end up being kinda mid. I think if you are really interested in spreading Toxic to your opponents team using Glimmora is likely still better.
Just my opinion!
I don't think the Toxic Chain mons will be used on stall that much as they are most likely offensive Pokemon that screw around with defensive cores through their ability, so it's not as big of a buff to stall as you think.
I don’t think we should assume grass type for Okidogi, like at all. It’s legit just because it’s green, which is not a good indicator.
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