I remember it taking a day or less.Marshadow took 2 days.
I remember it taking a day or less.Marshadow took 2 days.
+1, 6 months of non-metagame, refusing to even suspect garg, not re-test tera and now a quickban over banning magearna and the 2 zama just because they dediced to let them OUI just wanna make a post to call Finch incompetent tbh.
I'm gonna be real here; I would honestly like to revisit some of the Ubers even despite their bad track records in OU. This is because this is the first generation that has truly made moves 'legacy' such that a Pokemon won't have access to ALL of their tools at once, and I am certain there are Ubers mons that are more heavily impacted by the loss of some of these moves than others. Heck, Landorus-I and Genesect are such prime examples; Landorus-I gained Nasty Plot sure but losing Rock Polish is almost assuredly impacting it in some way as well. Genesect meanwhile lost its crucial gen 5 event moves in Extreme Speed and Shift Gear and even Rock Polish became legacy, suddenly leaving it with no way to speed control the opponent in an unprecedented manner.I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that something having such an abbreviated stint in OU can be used as leverage for future placement.
Let’s use Marshadow as an example. It was one of the quickest bans ever in OU history, and it has never touched OU since then. Obviously there’s some shaky grounds here as one OU environment differs vastly from the next, but hopefully Regieleki won’t have to come back with every DLC or next generation of Terastallization is still present.
Personally — and this is just me more than the whole council, I’d love to move away from the formality time with things like Landorus-I and Genesect, who end up Uber every generation. I thought we took a good step with that this time around by keeping Landorus-I banned alongside things blatant like Spectrier, so hopefully we continue to find the best solutions and this Regieleki stint can prove useful both now and in the future.
ratio+1, 6 months of non-metagame, refusing to even suspect garg, not re-test tera and now a quickban over banning magearna and the 2 zama just because they dediced to let them OU
banning tera instantly nerfs everything, without it elecki lose the ice coverage and is instantly walled by every ground mon/new goodra form
Garganacl didn’t get suspected because no one who actually performs in tournaments really wanted it. The Pokémon was not broken.+1, 6 months of non-metagame, refusing to even suspect garg, not re-test tera and now a quickban over banning magearna and the 2 zama just because they dediced to let them OU
banning tera instantly nerfs everything, without it elecki lose the ice coverage and is instantly walled by every ground mon/new goodra form
Hey finch. Is magearna being looked at for a quick ban?ratio
Yes, as I said in the ban post for Regieleki, we have assessed numerous other Pokemon as problematic and will be acting on them within the next couple of days. This is very much one of them. I expect it to be voted on soon.Hey finch. Is magearna being looked at for a quick ban?
Cheers.Yes, as I said in the ban post for Regieleki, we have assessed numerous other Pokemon as problematic and will be acting on them within the next couple of days. This is very much one of them. I expect it to be voted on soon.
Because you're trying to see it as a "breaker" when it's not. It's not supposed to break walls. It's an extremely centralising threat that can be played in a lot of versatile ways and can be a deadly wincon with body press + ID. Basically its OP speed control.I feel like Im crazy when I see Zamazenta listed among the most problematic stuff at the time being. It has some nice coverage moves but it doesnt cover everything, should rarely sweep/has no real utility to pair with it and you can check both with generic tier staples it feels like. What am I missing here. I like the mon(s) but they are clearly far away from the S tier for me.
Sorry if this isn't allowed, but are you allowed to say the list of ban considered mon, cos that would be very interesting to look at.Yes, as I said in the ban post for Regieleki, we have assessed numerous other Pokemon as problematic and will be acting on them within the next couple of days. This is very much one of them. I expect it to be voted on soon.
Garg got saved by the timing multiple times in the most rapidly evolving meta We’ve seenHonestly, I will always be mad about Garganacl never having even a suspect test, but other than that, everyone is doing a great job, you're a good worker finch, we all believe in you
I voted ban on Garganacl months before you guys clamored for a suspect…And then the only reason why it never got a suspect was because the community failed to support it sufficiently in the surveys — you guys had ample opportunity, but it never was supported sufficiently.Honestly, I will always be mad about Garganacl never having even a suspect test, but other than that, everyone is doing a great job, you're a good worker finch, we all believe in you
Seconding this. Both the examples losing any sort of speed boosting/priority really changes the game. And since it would be suspect, we can just vote if they still remain broken.I'm gonna be real here; I would honestly like to revisit some of the Ubers even despite their bad track records in OU. This is because this is the first generation that has truly made moves 'legacy' such that a Pokemon won't have access to ALL of their tools at once, and I am certain there are Ubers mons that are more heavily impacted by the loss of some of these moves than others. Heck, Landorus-I and Genesect are such prime examples; Landorus-I gained Nasty Plot sure but losing Rock Polish is almost assuredly impacting it in some way as well. Genesect meanwhile lost its crucial gen 5 event moves in Extreme Speed and Shift Gear and even Rock Polish became legacy, suddenly leaving it with no way to speed control the opponent in an unprecedented manner.
I do appreciate the council's testing policy atm, but I do wish that future tests for mons also take Gen 9's new precedent of "legacy moves" into account.
I doubt he meant it as a criticism of your work, probably just poor wording on his part, it reads more like a simple misunderstanding of the process of getting a mon suspectedI voted ban on Garganacl months before you guys clamored for a suspect…And then the only reason why it never got a suspect was because the community failed to support it sufficiently in the surveys — you guys had ample opportunity, but it never was supported sufficiently.
I fail to see how this reflects negatively on my competence.
Someone correct if I'm wrong, but aren't the usage stats being delayed until a bit later cos of home.Since tomorrow we are getting the usage stats form may, what do you expect from them? I think Regileki alone might have saved Treads from dropping just with yesterday.
where did you hear thisSomeone correct if I'm wrong, but aren't the usage stats being delayed until a bit later cos of home.
ursaluna isnt bannable. its just calyrex ice but for ouI'm gonna guess the most prominent ones on the radar are:
Zamazenta-Crowned
Ursaluna
Chien Pao
These 3 are 100% next on the chopping block for very obvious reasons.
Pao's CB set is still way too busted in a terastal metagame
Zamazenta-Crowned is way too much of a fat wincon that just has way too many resists and can just body press everything to oblivion, and iron defense sets on this thing's sheer bulk and good attack stat is too much.
Ursaluna is just melm on crack, especially in a tera metagame, needs to 100% go.
Less Prominent Mons that will likely get suspected rather than direct action I would say probably:
Urshifu-RS
(probably broken but not that broken.)
Zamazenta-Hero
(Could be op later but honestly could end up staying without issue)
Sneasler
(Dire Claw)
That's what I would guess from most of the sentiment I am hearing
I don't know, I just remember hearing it. Could have been from pokeaimmd? Don't really knowwhere did you hear this