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A lot of discussion in the last few days has centered around the removal of Sleep Clause in SV OU and subsequent ban of several sleep-inducing moves as well as how this decision might impact National Dex OU if we were to do the same. The National Dex OU council has been discussing this topic internally, and we are now taking the first steps towards determining what potential action towards Sleep Clause should be, if any. To be clear, this is not an announcement that Sleep Clause is being removed nor is it a guarantee that any action will ultimately be taken. Rather, what we would like to do is gather the community's opinion on our course of action in an organized fashion. I will list below the essential questions that we would like you to answer if you choose to post in this thread.
We decided to not take a survey approach in this situation so that users can see, respond to, and express support for any proposals from other users that they prefer while keeping discussion on this topic organized unlike the current metagame discussion thread. This will not be a thread to argue with those you disagree with on this topic and as such we are going to keep this strictly moderated. Sleep discussion in the other thread derailed pretty quickly, so if you don't like what someone is proposing here or feel that it isn't realistic then simply post your own thoughts on how Sleep Clause should be handled. If you are going to respond to someone's post directly, just limit it to an expression of support for their stance.
*Posts in this thread that fail to adhere to the guidelines above or attempt to insult other users/opinions may be subject to deletion*
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Please respond to the following questions:
What is your stance on sleep as a mechanic under the current Sleep Clause? Is it balanced or uncompetitive?
(This shouldn't be primarily focused on any specific Pokémon and how viable or unviable it is in the current meta. We want to know how you feel about the mechanic of sleep, various sleep moves, and Z-Hypnosis as a mechanic.)
Do you believe Sleep Clause should be removed in favor of banning sleep-inducing moves entirely?
(Please explain your stance. Note that this potential ban would not include rest, relic song, dire claw, or the effect spore ability. It only applies to moves that directly induce sleep on the opponent as their primary purpose.)
If responding no to the above question, is there other tiering action you would like to see taken regarding Sleep Clause or sleep mechanics in National Dex OU?
(Responding with "No Action" is sufficient if you wish to see no change to the current ruleset.)
A lot of discussion in the last few days has centered around the removal of Sleep Clause in SV OU and subsequent ban of several sleep-inducing moves as well as how this decision might impact National Dex OU if we were to do the same. The National Dex OU council has been discussing this topic internally, and we are now taking the first steps towards determining what potential action towards Sleep Clause should be, if any. To be clear, this is not an announcement that Sleep Clause is being removed nor is it a guarantee that any action will ultimately be taken. Rather, what we would like to do is gather the community's opinion on our course of action in an organized fashion. I will list below the essential questions that we would like you to answer if you choose to post in this thread.
We decided to not take a survey approach in this situation so that users can see, respond to, and express support for any proposals from other users that they prefer while keeping discussion on this topic organized unlike the current metagame discussion thread. This will not be a thread to argue with those you disagree with on this topic and as such we are going to keep this strictly moderated. Sleep discussion in the other thread derailed pretty quickly, so if you don't like what someone is proposing here or feel that it isn't realistic then simply post your own thoughts on how Sleep Clause should be handled. If you are going to respond to someone's post directly, just limit it to an expression of support for their stance.
*Posts in this thread that fail to adhere to the guidelines above or attempt to insult other users/opinions may be subject to deletion*
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Please respond to the following questions:
What is your stance on sleep as a mechanic under the current Sleep Clause? Is it balanced or uncompetitive?
(This shouldn't be primarily focused on any specific Pokémon and how viable or unviable it is in the current meta. We want to know how you feel about the mechanic of sleep, various sleep moves, and Z-Hypnosis as a mechanic.)
Do you believe Sleep Clause should be removed in favor of banning sleep-inducing moves entirely?
(Please explain your stance. Note that this potential ban would not include rest, relic song, dire claw, or the effect spore ability. It only applies to moves that directly induce sleep on the opponent as their primary purpose.)
If responding no to the above question, is there other tiering action you would like to see taken regarding Sleep Clause or sleep mechanics in National Dex OU?
(Responding with "No Action" is sufficient if you wish to see no change to the current ruleset.)