1. Mew (Nasty Plot)
2. Lucario (Nasty plot)
3. Jellicent (Choice specs)
4. Metagross (Agility)
5. Scrafty (dragon dance)
2. Lucario (Nasty plot)
3. Jellicent (Choice specs)
4. Metagross (Agility)
5. Scrafty (dragon dance)
OK that was me. I don't know that I was using SubRoost Staraptor "correctly", or if indeed there is even a way to play it correctly, but I certainly realised very quickly that a sweep was extremely rare. I barely tried to sweep with him at all. I also realised that it was a terrible wallbreaker, and a terrible revenge killer. Did you not see my later post, where I said I was using Staraptor in place of a very frail wallbreaker, Medicham? Staraptor was much, much worse, because it was even harder to switch in, and much, much worse at wallbreaking. Clearly, what you have to do is eliminate Staraptor's counters, so that Staraptor can clear another Pokemon's counters, and then you win! It's support that mandates lots of support. Sounds productive. And believe me, I tried to like it, and I tried to use it "correctly". The most effective strategy was simply to ignore Sub and Roost and simply to spam Brave Bird and hope that your opponent didn't notice the weird damage output, thinking Staraptor was choiced. I hope you'd understand that this would not translate at all well to the CCAT team, which would be totally out in the open, and that it would not work against a careful opponent who does damage calcs.There was some discussion on the previous page about how SubRoost Staraptor was "terrible" and "couldn't switch in on anything", but whoever said this obviously was not playing correctly with Staraptor. It seems as though they were trying to outright sweep with Sharp Beak Staraptor, which is not at all the intent. The purpose of SubRoost Staraptor is to destroy stall and use specific opportunities to set up a Substitute... Not Sweep. Staraptor without a Scarf is too slow to attempt to sweep. I just wanted to clear this up..
The Scarf Straptor proposed doesn't have Double-Edge, since it has Final Gambit.1. Choice Scarf Staraptor
A little snippet here about CS Staraptor. He is a real boss. I've been using him and he's just fantastic in a couple of roles. For one, he can come in the match early and fire off Brave Birds / Double Edges and 2HKO most of the metagame, or scout with U-turn. Secondly, he can wait in the wings until late game and clean up like nobody else with double stab Brave Bird. SubRoost is okay, but he doesn't have the bulk to pull it off. I'd rather be throwing around really strong attacks and revenge killing. My 2 cents.
2. Shell Smash Omastar
3. Choice Band Victini
4. Choice Band Conkeldurr
5. Rain Dance Kingdra
(Sorry for the long quote, but this was a few posts back and I though it deserved further discussion)CB Staraptor, on the other hand, was both a decent wallbreaker and occasionally a good revenge killer (due to increased power, and Quick Attack), and a decent momentum-grabber with U-turn if you could keep SR off the field. That is a set I would be willing to use. Very much the same with Choice Scarf; you could very well actually clean up with that set too. So yeah, if you want to use Staraptor, vote for Scarf, because CB is sadly not an option.