Deleted User 229847
Banned deucer.
I still can't see the inherent problem with being viable in OU while having subpar stats. The argument makes no sense whatsoever, who decides a threshold of stats that define an OU mon? It doesn't matter if diglett has less than 300 total stat points or not, the problem here is with the supposedly uncompetitiveness of the trapping abilities. I am not going to argue about magnet pull anymore, but given that we decided to accept it in earlier gens as part of a mon that only traps a small handful of pokemon, I do believe that diglett and trapinch can join the same niche.
In fact I don't think that diglett and trapinch will ever be a problem in Gen 8, even if they were to start being used. Furthermore, it's quite obvious that if I am against a diglett and trapinch ban, I'm fine with them being viable in the tier. We are trying to preserve arena trap on a few users because we believe diglett and trapinch can fullfil the niche without being oppressive, detrimental, unhealthy... choose your favourite adjectives. Obviously my original argument is and has always been that we either ban all of them or the few problematic ones, so I'm okay with dugtrio leaving the tier but absolutely against trapinch and diglett leaving it too.
In fact I don't think that diglett and trapinch will ever be a problem in Gen 8, even if they were to start being used. Furthermore, it's quite obvious that if I am against a diglett and trapinch ban, I'm fine with them being viable in the tier. We are trying to preserve arena trap on a few users because we believe diglett and trapinch can fullfil the niche without being oppressive, detrimental, unhealthy... choose your favourite adjectives. Obviously my original argument is and has always been that we either ban all of them or the few problematic ones, so I'm okay with dugtrio leaving the tier but absolutely against trapinch and diglett leaving it too.