Good luck stalling against a Hydreigon without a pink blob.*sigh* And I thought the old weather wars were bad. Now instead of a bunch of weather wars, we have a bunch of stall wars. The meta has slowed down soooo much, it's starting to get really boring. I hope next round things will change...
Shadow Tag, I believe.Why did we ban Wynaut?
Oh yea, forgot about Deoxys-S.We're up to seven. You forgot Deoxys-S, and I forgot Mence and Wobb. (Lati@s, Wobb, Mew, Mence, Deo-S/D)
I don't think it's the sweeper aspect of Deo-S that makes it allegedly broken, mainly just the unpredictability of it. Delta 2777 had a pretty good nomination for it, iff I recall correctly.haha, that's ironic. Yea, we banned quite a few mons back then :x. It sorta helped that BW didn't introduce us many ubers - we only got Reshiram and Zekrom. Advance and DPP really bolstered the Ubers metagame with all the nasty weather inducers and dragons they introduced to the game (+ Deoxys-A, Darkrai, and Skymin).
Oh yea, forgot about Deoxys-S.
Lol, mixed Deoxys-S is weak - it really can't afford to go mixed since it only has 95 base offense, but that's the only way it has a chance to break through stall. I bet Magic Guard Alakazam is a much better sweeper than Deoxys-S.
Garchomp is slow? Since when? Base 102 Speed is still very fast.There is a certain trend in Smogon's gen 5 bans. The voters like to ban anything thats fast. Everything that was banned in gen 5 was banned partly/mainly because of their speed (manaphy and garchomp are exceptions,
Moving first has always been really important in this game, especially when you have the offenses to do something with it. That's why no one is talking about Jolteon, Accelgor, Electrode, or Ninjask. They are, quite frankly, garbage even considering the fact that they are among the fastest Pokemon in the game. The only reason Ninjask is being used now is because of Baton Pass chains with Espeon. I'm sure you don't mean "anything with high speed", but I wish you could word that a little more intelligently, since it otherwise seems that you're trying to fish for another reason to discriminate against the decisions of our voters.The voters like to ban anything thats fast.
I didn't catch this part, but seriously, that's not even a good observation. Yes, Speed is important, always has been, but if you look at the plethora of other Pokemon who reach the same speed tiers or higher that can't even do what Pokemon like Excadrill and Thundurus do, then it relays back to the simple fact that these Pokemon are overpowered, not just fast. 'Fast' isn't why we ban things around here.Of course, the pokemon has to have a little power to be banned (unlike ninjask and co.) but you get the point.
If the community hates a Pokémon, it is ban-worthy. At least, in the suspect test process, but it seems like we won't be banning anything via that process anymore.What determines a pokemon to be "ban-worthy"?
This should be true when it comes to offensive prowess, but you neglected to mention defensive Pokemon. Maybe you weren't making that point, though. Quite a few Pokemon are Uber because of their walling capabilities.A pokemon should only be considered ban-worthy if it can destroy any team with minimal support and if its presence forces one to use a few select pokemon in most scenarios because it can not be dealt with in any other case. IMO
Like inconsistent made one poke into a one man army.
A pokemon should only be considered ban-worthy if it can defend against any team with minimal support and if its presence forces one to use a few select pokemon in most scenarios because it can not be dealt with in any other case. IMO
fix'dA pokemon should only be considered ban-worthy if it can give unfailing gamebreaking support to any team with minimal support and if its presence forces one to use a few select pokemon in most scenarios because it can not be dealt with in any other case. IMO
Kefka, if someone knows you have a chandelure, they're not getting rid of their chandelure counter, so how are you getting rid of any of those?\
And jelly rapes volcarona, people are just stupid and use scald over night shade for no adequately explored reason. Seriously, logically i'd hit anything i'd hit with scald with either night shade,will-o-wisp, or taunt.
A lot of perspectives to note on the banning thing -.-. A lot of the perspectives would say it "isn't that bad". I'm thinking the whole ban-happy idea comes from many feeling that some bans were unnecessary combined with the different things people WANT bans for and the fact that it's early in the gen still.Fun fact, DPP (25) has more ubers than BW (22) and BW has more Pokemon!
So I also wouldn't call Smogon ban happy, yet.
Only if you want to spin for your opponent; Defog removes hazards on their side of the field, that is, the ones that you put down.Side note: Is Defog remotely viable as an alternative to spinning? I noticed its current distribution sucks (because of the inability to transfer pokes that have it from previous gens maybe?). Sure, it's non-damaging, but it also isn't blocked by ghost, and instead offers a make-shift accuracy boost. It even rids the opponent of screens, which is nice... Just a thought really, I was always under the impression that only Rapid Spin did that... Most of the Poke's that get it aren't very good... especially not as utility mons, but still.