Nerfmons (Slate 11: Legendary Slate)

[G-Luke]

I'm giving til 8 PM EST to close submissions and commence voting. By then I would have already subbed any fill in the blanks. Please though, your submissions are wanted very much!

 

[Brodaha]

I will be submitting next slate, I had no inspiration this time.

 

[Yoshiblaze]

btw I vote for rev's goodra in the tiebreaker

 

[G-Luke]

Name: Crobat
Nerfed Stats: 80 HP / 55 Atk / 60 Def / 90 SpA / 80 SpD / 125 Spe (-5 HP -35 Atk, -20 Def, +20 SpA, -5 Spe) [BST:490]
Removed Moves: Taunt
New Typing (If Any): Poison/Flying
New Moves (If Any): N/A
New Abilities (If Any): Inner Focus / Infiltrator (HA)
Justification: Similar to Yoshi's Weavile, I noted the existence of Nasty Plot within Crobat's movepool, so I worked with that. I only removed Taunt so stallbreaking sets wouldn't pop up.

Name: Mamoswine
Nerfed Stats: 110 HP / 120 Atk / 60 Def / 50 SpA / 40 SpD / 70 Spe (-10 Atk, -20 Def, -20 SpA, -20 SpD, -10 Spe) [BST:450]
Removed Moves: Superpower
New Typing (If Any): Ground
New Moves (If Any): N/A
New Abilities (If Any): Oblivious / Snow Cloak / Unnerve (HA)
Justification: I decided to make Mamoswine a frail, yet powerful wallbreaker. I removed its Ice typing to differentiate it from Piloswine. Removed Thick Fat and Superpower so it doesn't get free passes against Fire, Ice and Ferroseed respectively.


I guess its time to open voting.

 

[Yoshiblaze]

Crobat: leonard, G-Luke
Weavile: ...
Mamoswine: G-Luke, Yoshiblaze
Ferrothorn: leonard, Yoshiblaze

 

[G-Luke]

Crobat: leonard, G-Luke
Weavile: ...
Mamoswine:, Yoshiblaze, G-Luke
Ferrothorn: leonard, Yoshiblaze

 

[Mygavolt]

Crobat: G-Luke, leonard

Weavile: ...
Mamoswine: G-Luke, Yoshiblaze
Ferrothorn: leonard, Yoshiblaze

 

[G-Luke]

Winners are

Name: Razor Claw Sneasel
Nerfed Stats: 65 (-5) / 50 (-70) / 65 / 90 (+45) / 70 (-15) / 120 (-5) (460 BST)
Removed Moves: Focus Blast
New Typing (If Any): Dark/Ice
New Moves (If Any): N/A
New Abilities (If Any): Pressure / Inner Focus / Pickpocket (HA)

Name: Crobat
Nerfed Stats:
HP: 85 (-0)
Atk: 90 (-0)
Def: 65 (-15)
SpA: 50 (-20)
SpD: 65 (-15)
Spe: 130 (-0)
BST: 485 (-50)
Removed Moves: Roost, U-turn
Abilities: Infiltrator, Inner Focus
Typing: Fire/Flying (Is this right leonard (from big bang theory) ?)

Name: Ferrothorn
Nerfed Stats:
HP: 74 (-0)
Atk: 54 (-40)
Def: 101 (-30)
SpA: 94 (+40)
SpD: 86 (-30)
Spe: 20 (-0)
BST: 431 (-60)
Removed Moves: Spikes, Leech Seed
Abilities: Anticipation, Analytic
Typing: Grass/Steel

Name: Mamoswine
Nerfed Stats: 110 HP / 120 Atk / 60 Def / 50 SpA / 40 SpD / 70 Spe (-10 Atk, -20 Def, -20 SpA, -20 SpD, -10 Spe) [BST:450]
Removed Moves: Superpower
New Typing (If Any): Ground
New Moves (If Any): N/A
New Abilities (If Any): Oblivious / Snow Cloak / Unnerve (HA)

Reviloja won with her Goodra btw!

Now we head straight ahead with part 2 of 3's Legendary Slate!

Post away!!!!

 

[earl]

Oops it supposed to be Poison/Flying still G-Luke

 

[G-Luke]

Name: Zekrom
Nerfed Stats: 80 HP / 115 Atk / 95 Def / 75 SpA / 70 SpD / 80 Spe [BST:520] (-20 HP, -35 Atk, -25 Def, -45 SpA, -30 SpD, -10 Spe)
Removed Moves: -Bolt Strike, -Focus Blast, -Earth Power
New Ability: Static
New Typing (If Any): N/A
New Moves (If Any): N/A
Justification: Same general stat nerfing, with emphasis on special attack. Bolt Strike is removed so it doesn't have any stupidly strong Electric STAB, while Focus Blast is axed so it doesn't auto beat Steelix. Static is a neat ability to pair with its ok defense stat.
Competitive Insight: Zekrom is a physical breaker that is unfortunately countered by the tier's best physical tank - Steelix.

Name: Reshiram
Nerfed Stats: 80 HP / 75 Atk / 70 Def / 115 SpA / 95 SpD / 80 Spe [BST:520] (-20 HP, -45 Atk, -30 Def, -35 SpA, -25 SpD, -10 Spe)
Removed Moves: Stone Edge, Earth Power
New Typing (If Any): N/A
New Moves (If Any): N/A
Justification: Same general stat nerfing, with emphasis on attack. Kicked out Stone Edge so it cant beat Ho-oh. Kicked Earth Power to be consistent. Flame Body is Static's counterpart.
Competitive Insight: Powerful Special attacker that can punch holes into teams with Blue Flare.

Brodaha and anyone else submitting?

 

[Brodaha]

I forgot about this honestly, I can submit a few tomorrow.

 

[earl]

I forgot about this honestly, I can submit a few tomorrow.

Same here

 

[Brodaha]

Name: Palkia
Nerfed Stats: 80 (-10) / 80 (-40) / 70 (-30) / 110 (-40) / 100 (-20) / 70 (-30) | BST = 510
Removed Moves: Hydro Pump, Spacial Rend, Focus Punch, Thunder
New Typing (If Any): Water / Dragon
New Moves (If Any): N/A
New Abilities (If Any): Pressure / Anticipation (HA)
Justification: Palkia becomes a good RU wallbreaker (I think, I don't really play RU) but is held back by a bad movepool. However, it still has access to Lustrous Orb to boost it's dragon and water moves, letting it sweep potently. It's also slow now, holding it back even more.

 

[earl]

Name: Dialga
Nerfed Stats:
HP: 80 (-20)
Atk: 80 (-40)
Def: 120 (-0)
SpA: 120 (-30)
SpD: 70 (-30)
Spe: 70 (-20)
BST: 540 (-140)
Removed Moves: Earth Power, Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Aura Sphere
Abilities: Pressure, Telepathy
Typing: Dragon/Steel
Justification: A bulky, semi-slow Stealth Rock setter and Stallbreaker. While easily walled by Steel-types (altho EQ can cheese through Silvally), it easily beats popular Fairy-types and can utilize a potent Subtect PP-stalling set.

Name: Palkia
Nerfed Stats:
HP: 70 (-20)
Atk: 120 (-0)
Def: 70 (-30)
SpA: 120 (-30)
SpD: 80 (-40)
Spe: 80 (-20)
BST: 540 (-140)
Removed Moves: Fire Blast, Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Blizzard, Thunder, Thunderbolt
Abilities: Pressure, Telepathy
Typing: Dragon/Water
Justification: Mixed Wallbreaker that struggles against bulky waters, grasses, and fairies. Not quite fast but can still run a scarf set well.

Name: Zekrom
Nerfed Stats:
HP: 80 (-20)
Atk: 120 (-30)
Def: 120 (-0)
SpA: 80 (-40)
SpD: 70 (-30)
Spe: 70 (-20)
BST: 540 (-140)
Removed Moves: Bolt Strike, Earth Power. Focus Blast
Abilities: Teravolt
Typing: Dragon/Electric
Justification: Physical wallbreaker with good bulk on the physical side. Fusion Bolt allows it to actually be a good physical electric type. Just noticed that all 4 of these pokemon have the same base stats, just shuffled around.

Name: Reshiram
Nerfed Stats:
HP: 80 (-20)
Atk: 80 (-40)
Def: 70 (-30)
SpA: 120 (-30)
SpD: 120 (-0)
Spe: 70 (-20)
BST: 540 (-140)
Removed Moves: Fusion Flare, Earth Power
Abilities: Turboblaze
Typing: Dragon/Fire
Justification: Special wallbreaker with good bulk on the special side. Loses to Diance so lol

 

[G-Luke]

Yoshiblaze dropping anything?

 

[Yoshiblaze]

As soon as I think of something

 

[G-Luke]

Ending this slate in 48 hrs, to give Yoshiblaze and anyone still interested emough time to finish

 

[Yoshiblaze]

Name: not beatdown
Nerfed Stats: 100 / 100 (-50) / 90 (-30) / 70 (-50) / 100 / 100 (+10)
Removed Moves: Focus Blast, Earth Power, Bolt Strike
New Typing (If Any): Electric/Flying
New Moves (If Any): Drill Peck
New Abilities (If Any): Teravolt
Justification: WIP (Basic Premise, making something a Flying-type without doing it properly makes it worse)

Name: literally worse in ubers than wynaut was in Gen 4
Nerfed Stats: 100 / 90 (-30) / 100 / 100 (-50) / 100 (-20) / 70 (-20)
Removed Moves: Blue Flare, Earth Power
New Typing (If Any): Fire/Flying
New Moves (If Any): Air Slash, Whirlwind, Calm Mind
New Abilities (If Any): Teravolt
Justification: WIP

 

[G-Luke]

I'll open voting since nothing else is happening

 

[Yoshiblaze]

Tao Duo: G-Luke, leonard (fbbt), Yoshiblaze

Creation Duo (Palkia): leonard (fbbt), Brodaha

 

[G-Luke]

Any votes from leonard (from big bang theory) and Brodaha?

Tao Duo: leonard, G-Luke, Yoshiblaze

Palkia: leonard, Brodaha

 

[earl]

Any votes from leonard (from big bang theory) and Brodaha?

Tao Duo: leonard, G-Luke, Yoshiblaze

Palkia: leonard, Brodaha

I’m fine with calling the votes as is, but I’ll definetly be subbing next slate

 

[G-Luke]

Wrap this up, and while leonard does get a tie, I'll concede and grant him the win over the Tao nerfs.

So leonard (from big bang theory) gets a legendary clean sweep.

Gonna take a break from legendaries to tackle some of OU's viability rankings.

All these mons are Pokemon that are in the A rankings that are also not Legendary nor have been done before, so have fun mates!

 

[Yoshiblaze]

Name: Incineroar's Opponent for Tonight's Main Event
Nerfed Stats: 68 (-10) / 92 / 65 (-10) / 64 (-10) / 58 (-5) / 113 (-5) (460 BST)
Removed Moves: Poison Jab, Iron Head
New Typing (If Any): Fighting/Flying
New Abilities (If Any): Limber / Vital Spirit / Mold Breaker (HA)
New Moves (If Any): N/A
Justification: Hawlucha's stats are honestly slightly underwhelming for how much of a monster it is. The only thing pushing it over the edge was Unburden honestly. Just change that, give it a slight nerf to it's bulk and speed and it looks pretty balanced. Oh, and also remove it's way of beating all of these new Fairies down here. At least it still has Steel Wing.
Competitive Insight: Hawlucha is a very interesting Pokemon now. It has an amazing typing and movepool and a decent speed tier with a good Attack stat. Problems? Well, first off, it has no good Flying moves, so it you want to take advantage of that coverage, you have to get creative. Like Power Herb Sky Attack or SubSitrus/Salac/Liechi creative. Or forgo Flying coverage altogether and make room for Drain Punch or one of Hawlucha's numerous coverage options. Once you figure out that situation, Hawlucha is a threatening sweeper. Just be wary of its lackluster bulk and be sure to weaken the likes of Palossand, Slowbro, and, depending on what coverage you run, Diancie, Xatu, Comfey, Cro/Golbat, and the Tapus.

Sample Sets

i want my flying moves (Hawlucha) @ Sitrus Berry / Liechi Berry / Power Herb
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- High Jump Kick
- Swords Dance
- Substitute / Sky Attack
- Acrobatics

Physical Sweeper (Hawlucha) @ Life Orb
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- High Jump Kick
- Swords Dance
- Steel Wing / Drain Punch
- Stone Edge / Drain Punch

Wallbreaker (Hawlucha) @ Choice Band
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- High Jump Kick
- U-turn
- Steel Wing
- Stone Edge

Name: ew
Nerfed Stats: 95 / 70 / 73 / 95 / 90 / 60 (483 BST)
Removed Moves: Moonblast, Dazzling Gleam, Misty Terrain
New Typing (If Any): Normal
New Abilities (If Any): Cute Charm / Magic Guard / Unaware HA)
New Moves (If Any): N/A
Justification: I want to take us back to a time before Clefable was stupidly good. A time before Clefable was S rank. A time before even Fairy-types. That's right, I'm talking about Gen 5 RarelyUsed. That was back when Clefable was just a plain old Normal-type. A versatile one, for sure, back still only a Normal-type. That's why it was RU. I want that back. It's two generations later, it wouldn't be able to keep up with RU anymore and would thus land here. That's what I want.
Competitive Insight: Clefable is the jack trades, master of none. You want a Special Wall? Calm Mind Sweeper? Setup Sweeper Counter? Physical Attacker? LO Wallbreaker? Clefable can give you all of that. The only thing holding it back is its stats and typing. This makes Clefable a very splashable Pokemon, something to prep for, but nothing overwhelming.

Sample Sets

Take these with a grain of salt, Clefable does just about anything you want

Wall (Clefable) @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard / Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Seismic Toss
- Stealth Rock
- Soft-Boiled
- Knock Off
OO: Thunder Wave, Toxic, Heal Bell/Aromatherapy, Toxic, Wish, Healing Wish, Fire Blast, Encore

Special Attacker (Clefable) @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hyper Voice
- Fire Blast
- Soft-Boiled
- Calm Mind / Ice Beam / Thunderbolt

Calm Mind (Clefable) @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hyper Voice
- Calm Mind
- Soft-Boiled
- Fire Blast

Physical Attacker (Clefable) @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Double-Edge
- Meteor Mash
- Soft-Boiled
- Knock Off
OO: Fire Blast, Fire Punch, Drain Punch, Focus Blast

 

[Speny]

Name: Not just a fat Mangneton
Nerfed Stats: 70 / 70 / 115 / 95 (-35) / 70 (-20) / 35 (-25) (455 BST)
Removed Moves: Volt Switch, Thunder Wave
New Typing (If Any): Electric / Steel
New Abilities (If Any): Magnet Pull / Sturdy / Analytic
Justification: I wanted to keep the Steel trapping niche that Mangnezone is known for without it being to overwhelming. My solution was to make it harder for it come in without planning. So I made it slower, weaker but kept it's bulk.
252+ SpA Magnezone Hidden Power Fire vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Kartana: 560-660 (215.3 - 253.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Magnezone Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 156 SpD Celesteela: 242-288 (65.5 - 78%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Celesteela Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Magnezone: 222-262 (68.5 - 80.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Name: Gross Tentacruel
Nerfed Stats: 50 / 63 / 133 (-20)/ 53 / 103 (-40)/ 35 (425 BST)
Removed Moves: Baneful Bunker, Knock Off, Recover, Pain Split
New Typing (If Any): Poison / Water
New Abilities (If Any): Rough Skin / Limber / Merciless

Name: Good Boy Gengar
Nerfed Stats: 85 (-10) / 70 / 63 (-10) / 95 / 90 / 60 (463 BST)
Removed Moves: Moonblast, Dazzling Gleam, Misty Terrain, Stealth Rocks
New Typing (If Any): Fairy
New Abilities (If Any): Cute Charm / Oblivious / Unaware HA)
New Moves (If Any): Play Rough
Justification: I wanted to keep it a fairy well changing how it is used, it is no longer able to fire off moonblasts or dazzling gleams so in order to run stab over 40bp you got to use Clefairy's physical stat.

Name: Power creep Primeape
Nerfed Stats: 68 (-10) / 92 / 75 / 74 / 53 (-10) / 103 (-15) (465 BST)
Removed Moves: Poison Jab, Stone Edge, Rock Slide
New Typing (If Any): Fighting/Flying
New Abilities (If Any): Limber / Inner Focus / Mold Breaker (HA)
Justification: I tried to add Hawlucha without take the niche that over pokemon have so he has less coverage. Also made his speed fight closer to other fighting types in the tier. Hawlucha is still the fastest but the others got other niches they fill.