1v1 Liechi Cinderace [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

[pqs]

[SET]
name: Substitute + Liechi
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Pyro Ball / Flare Blitz
move 3: Taunt
move 4: Reversal
item: Liechi Berry
ability: Blaze
nature: Jolly
evs: 8 HP / 200 Atk / 48 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Cinderace's useful movepool and ability define its metagame prowess. Substitute allows Cinderace to get down to low enough HP to activate Blaze and Liechi Berry and use its highest-Base Power Reversal. Pyro Ball and Reversal are Cinderace's main offensive moves, both being high-Base Power moves when it is low on HP and covering an array of Pokemon. This helps Cinderace beat Grass-, Normal-, Rock-, Ice-, and Steel-types such as Ferrothorn, Snorlax, Tyranitar, Choice Band Galarian Darmanitan, and Corviknight. Alternatively, Flare Blitz can be run as a more accurate move, but Cinderace loses out on not having recoil. Taunt is used to shut down threats like Whimsicott, Aegislash, and Galarian Corsola. 8 HP EVs are invested to take Life Orb Mimikyu's Shadow Claw and Shadow Sneak while having an odd number of HP for Substitute, and 48 Special Defense EVs on top of that allow Cinderace to take a hit from Choice Specs Sylveon. Maximum Speed investment is run for the mirror matchup and to outspeed Choice Band Durant and non-Choice Scarf Gengar.

Grass-types like Ferrothorn, Rillaboom, and Tsareena can take out the Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types that Cinderace is weak to, like Milotic and Rhyperior. In return, it can take on Ice-types like Choice Band Galarian Darmanitan. Cinderace also loses to several faster Pokemon like Dragapult, Choice Scarf Galarian Darmanitan, and Choice Scarf Dracovish, so bulky offensive Pokemon that can take a hit from them and KO back like Assault Vest Rhyperior and non-Curse Mimikyu are good teammates. In return, Cinderace can take out the Grass- and Steel-types that these Pokemon are weak to, like Ferrothorn.

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[pqs]

Ready

 

[Morgan]

Qc

[SET]
name: Sub + Liechi
move 1: Pyro Ball / Flare Blitz you know I had to do it to ya
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Taunt
move 4: Reversal
item: Liechi Berry
ability: Blaze
nature: Jolly / Adamant
evs: 8 HP / 200 Atk / 48 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Cinderace's powerful movepool and ability defines its metagame prowess. Substitute is the main move on this set, allowing Cinderace to get down to low enough HP to where it activates Blaze and eats its Liechi Berry, along with being able to use its highest BP Reversal. Pyro Ball and Reversal are Cinderace's main offensive moves, both being high base power moves when Cinderace is low on HP or having the potential to be high-BP and are able to cover an array of typings including Grass-types for Pyro Ball, Normal- and Rock-types for Reversal, and Ice- and Steel-types for both attacks. This helps Cinderace beat Whimsicott you’re beating this because of taunt, not necessarily by merit of Pyro Ball (occa), Snorlax, Tyranitar, Choice Band Galarian Darmanitan, and Corviknight. Taunt is used to shut down threats like Mew and Whimsicott. Add Flare Blitz (acc vs contact) 8 HP is invested to take Life Orb Mimikyu's Shadow Claw and Shadow Sneak while having an odd number of HP and 48 Special Defense on top of that takes a hit from Choice Specs Sylveon. 252 Speed along with a Jolly nature is for the Cinderace mirror matchup, also outspeeding Choice Band Durant and non-Choice Scarf Gengar. Alternatively, you can run an Adamant nature to have more power along with securing the Choice Band Dracovish matchup, but you lose out on the rest of the aforementioned matchups. It’s been decided, no Adamant

Grass-types like Ferrothorn, Rillaboom, and Tsareena can take out the Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types that Cinderace is weak to like?. In return, Cinderace can take on Bug- and Ice-types like Crustle bad example given that Crustle can lose to all 3 and Choice Band Galarian Darmanitan. Cinderace also loses to a lot of generally fast or Choice Scarf-holding Pokemon, like Dragapult, along with Choice Scarf Galarian Darmanitan and Choice Scarf Dracovish. Good teammates to counter these Pokemon are bulky offense that can take a hit from these, and counteract with their own hit, like set is relevant (AV) Rhyperior and set is somewhat relevant here (LO/Scarf) Mimikyu. In return, Cinderace can take out the Steel- and Grass-types that these Pokemon are weak to what steels and grasses?.

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Ping me for recheck then 1/2

 

[pqs]

Implemented AllFourtyOne

 

[Morgan]

QC 1 after removing Adamant slash

 

[Ginger Princess]

QC check 2

[SET]
name: Sub + Liechi
move 1: Pyro Ball / Flare Blitz
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Taunt
move 4: Reversal
item: Liechi Berry
ability: Blaze
nature: Jolly
evs: 8 HP / 200 Atk / 48 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Cinderace's powerful movepool and ability defines its metagame prowess. Substitute is the main move on this set, allowing Cinderace to get down to low enough HP to where it activates Blaze and eats its Liechi Berry, along with being able to use its highest BP Reversal. Pyro Ball and Reversal are Cinderace's main offensive moves, both being high base power moves when Cinderace is low on HP and are able to cover an array of typings including Grass-types for Pyro Ball, Normal- and Rock-types for Reversal, and Ice- and Steel-types for both attacks. This helps Cinderace beat Ferrothorn, Snorlax, Tyranitar, Choice Band Galarian Darmanitan, and Corviknight. Taunt is used to shut down threats like Whimsicott. Alternatively, Flare Blitz can be ran for a more accurate move along with hitting for contact, but Cinderace loses out on not having recoil. 8 HP is invested to take Life Orb Mimikyu's Shadow Claw and Shadow Sneak while having an odd number of HP for Substitute, and 48 Special Defense on top of that takes a hit from Choice Specs Sylveon. 252 Speed along with a Jolly nature is for the Cinderace mirror matchup, also outspeeding Choice Band Durant and non-Choice Scarf Gengar. mention HJK

Grass-types like Ferrothorn, Rillaboom, and Tsareena can take out the Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types that Cinderace is weak to, like Milotic and Rhyperior. In return, Cinderace can take on Ice-types like Choice Band Galarian Darmanitan. Cinderace also loses to a lot of generally fast Pokemon, like Dragapult, along with Choice Scarf Galarian Darmanitan and Choice Scarf Dracovish. Good teammates to counter these Pokemon are bulky offense that can take a hit from these, and counteract with their own hit, like Assault Vest Rhyperior and non-Curse Mimikyu. In return, Cinderace can take out the Steel- and Grass-types that these Pokemon are weak to, like Ferrothorn.

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good, qc 2/2

 

[pqs]

Implemented the "for Substitute" part, but omitted adding High Jump Kick due to things we discussed in the QC channel.
This is ready for a GP check!

 

[kt3]

amcheck :)

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[SET]
name: Substitute + Liechi (optional, but I personally think it's either SubX or Substitute + X)
move 1: Pyro Ball / Flare Blitz
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Taunt
move 4: Reversal
(Sub, Pyro, Reversal, Taunt imo)
item: Liechi Berry
ability: Blaze
nature: Jolly
evs: 8 HP / 200 Atk / 48 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Cinderace's powerful movepool and ability defines its metagame prowess. Substitute is the main move on this set, allowing allows Cinderace to get down to low enough HP to where it activates Blaze and eats its Liechi Berry, along with being able to use its highest BP Reversal. Pyro Ball and Reversal are Cinderace's main offensive moves, both being having high Base Power moves when Cinderace it is low on HP and are able to covering an array of typings Pokemon (Grass-types are Pokemon; Grass is a typing) including Grass-types for Pyro Ball, Normal- and Rock-types for Reversal, and Ice- and Steel-types for both attacks. This helps Cinderace beat Grass-, Normal-, Rock-, Ice-, and Steel-types such as Ferrothorn, Snorlax, Tyranitar, Choice Band Galarian Darmanitan, and Corviknight (subjective; merge; there's no need to specify the move, since it's just /eff; Ignore the merge if it messes up QC, but most points still stand). Taunt is used to shut down threats like Whimsicott (probs move this after Flare Blitz). Alternatively, Flare Blitz can be run for a more accurate move along with hitting for contact, but Cinderace loses out on not having recoil (what does contact do? sentence is p clunky too; "for a more accurate contact move at the cost of recoil damage" or something should do the trick; then again, I'm leaving the phrase untouched for now). 8 HP is EVs are invested to take Life Orb Mimikyu's Shadow Claw and Shadow Sneak while having an odd number of HP for Substitute; (SC) , and 48 Special Defense EVs on top of that allow Cinderace to takes a hit from Choice Specs Sylveon. 252 Speed along with a Jolly nature Maximum Speed investment (optional; else, just add EVs after Speed and change is -> are) is run for the Cinderace mirror matchup, also and to outspeeding Choice Band Durant (why specify CB?) and non-Choice Scarf Gengar.

Grass-types like Ferrothorn, Rillaboom, and Tsareena can take out the Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types that Cinderace is weak to, like Milotic and Rhyperior. In return, Cinderace it can take on Ice-types like Choice Band Galarian Darmanitan. Cinderace also loses to a lot of generally fast Pokemon (I think "faster" is better in this context; I can say Pokemon like Gengar are generally fast), like Dragapult, along with Choice Scarf Galarian Darmanitan, (AC) and Choice Scarf Dracovish, so (there's no reason to use along with here unless you want to introduce "Choice Scarf users" separately). Good teammates to counter these Pokemon are bulky offensive Pokemon that can take a hit from them, (RC) and counteract with their own hit, KO back (just hitting is not enough to counter) like Assault Vest Rhyperior and non-Curse Mimikyu are good teammates. In return, Cinderace can take out the Steel- and Grass-types (swap Steel and Grass to match Rhyp and Mimi) that these Pokemon are weak to, like Ferrothorn.

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- Written by: [[pqs, 425798]]
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[SET]
name: Substitute + Liechi (optional, but I personally think it's either SubX or Substitute + X ya spell out the whole thing unless it's an established term in the grammar standards)
move 1: Pyro Ball / Flare Blitz
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Taunt
move 4: Reversal
(Sub, Pyro, Reversal, Taunt imo)
item: Liechi Berry
ability: Blaze
nature: Jolly
evs: 8 HP / 200 Atk / 48 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Cinderace's powerful useful (idk, powerful doesnt feel like a good adjective to use here though) movepool and ability defines its metagame prowess. Substitute is the main move on this set, allowing allows Cinderace to get down to low enough HP to where it activates Blaze and eats its Liechi Berry (RC) along with being able to and use its highest BP highest-Base Power Reversal. Pyro Ball and Reversal are Cinderace's main offensive moves, both being high-Base(AH) Power moves when Cinderace it is low on HP and are able to covering an array of typings Pokemon (Grass-types are Pokemon; Grass is a typing) including Grass-types for Pyro Ball, Normal- and Rock-types for Reversal, and Ice- and Steel-types for both attacks. This helps Cinderace beat Grass-, Normal-, Rock-, Ice-, and Steel-types such as Ferrothorn, Snorlax, Tyranitar, Choice Band Galarian Darmanitan, and Corviknight (subjective; merge; there's no need to specify the move, since it's just /eff; Ignore the merge if it messes up QC, but most points still stand). Taunt is used to shut down threats like Whimsicott (probs move this after Flare Blitz its best to have the moves down here follow the order they come up in the set so yeah). Alternatively, Flare Blitz can be run for a more accurate move along with hitting for contact, but Cinderace loses out on not having recoil (what does contact do? sentence is p clunky too; "for a more accurate contact move at the cost of recoil damage" or something should do the trick; then again, I'm leaving the phrase untouched for now yea I have no idea what the importance of being a contact move is). 8 HP is EVs are invested to take Life Orb Mimikyu's Shadow Claw and Shadow Sneak while having an odd number of HP for Substitute, and 48 Special Defense EVs on top of that allow Cinderace to takes a hit from Choice Specs Sylveon. 252 Speed along with a Jolly nature Maximum Speed investment (optional; else, just add EVs after Speed and change is -> are) is run for the Cinderace mirror matchup, also and to outspeeding Choice Band Durant (why specify CB? im gonna assume choice scarf durant is a set) and non-Choice Scarf Gengar.

Grass-types like Ferrothorn, Rillaboom, and Tsareena can take out the Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types that Cinderace is weak to, like Milotic and Rhyperior. In return, Cinderace it can take on Ice-types like Choice Band Galarian Darmanitan. Cinderace also loses to a lot of generally fast Pokemon (I think "faster" is better in this context; I can say Pokemon like Gengar are generally fast there may be slower pokemon that are still fast that beat cinderace, but yea if this is limited to just those that are faster i'd do "several faster Pokemon"), like Dragapult, along with Choice Scarf Galarian Darmanitan, (AC) and Choice Scarf Dracovish, so (there's no reason to use along with here unless you want to introduce "Choice Scarf users" separately i agree). Good teammates to counter these Pokemon are bulky offensive Pokemon that can take a hit from them, (RC) and counteract with their own hit, KO back (just hitting is not enough to counter) like Assault Vest Rhyperior and non-Curse Mimikyu are good teammates. In return, Cinderace can take out the Steel- and Grass-types (swap Steel and Grass to match Rhyp and Mimi) that these Pokemon are weak to, like Ferrothorn.

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- Written by: [[pqs, 425798]]
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gp 1/1 once done

 

[pqs]

this is done

 

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