1v1 Iron Bundle (Choice Specs) [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

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[SET]
Choice Specs (Iron Bundle) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Quark Drive
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Freeze-Dry
- Blizzard / Hyper Beam / Chilling Water

[SET COMMENTS]
* Hydro Pump OHKOes Skeledirge, Arcanine, non-Passho Berry Volcarona, non-Assault Vest Iron Moth, Iron Treads, and physically defensive Espathra.
* Freeze-Dry beats Dondozo and non-Speed Booster Energy Walking Wake.
* Blizzard OHKOes non-Assault Vest Iron Leaves and Wo-Chien.
* Hyper Beam OHKOes opposing Iron Bundle.
* Iron Bundle can run an alternative EV spread of 232 HP / 68 Def / 160 SpA / 48 Spe with a Timid Nature. The HP and Defense EVs allow Iron Bundle to live a Giga Impact from Choice Band Slaking after Chilling Water. The Speed EVs allow Iron Bundle to outspeed Iron Moth and Adamant Meowscarada.
* While Ice Beam has a high chance to beat non-specially defensive Pressure stall Corviknight, if you are sure that Corviknight is a specially defensive Pressure stall set, you can attempt to use Hydro Pump to win, but this is not reliable.
[CREDITS]
Set(s) created by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bo_bobson27.546922/

Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bea.481149/

Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/lumii.493772/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/vertigo.543620/
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Grammar checked by:
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[SET]
Iron Bundle @ Choice Specs
Ability: Quark Drive
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Freeze Dry
- Blizzard / Hyper Beam / Chilling Water

[SET COMMENTS]
* Hydro Pump OHKOes Skeledirge, Arcanine, Volcarona, and non-Assault Vest Iron Moth. (are there any other mons that you ohko with pump? a non-fire type example would be nice)
* Freeze Dry OHKOes Choice Band Dondozo (on the leftovers set it's a roll in your favor but it's still significant enough (68.8%)) and non-Speed Booster Energy Walking Wake. (add period)
* Blizzard OHKOes non-Assault Vest Iron Leaves and Wo-Chien. (add period)
* Hyper Beam OHKOes opposing Iron Bundle.
* Using a Modest nature allows Iron Bundle to reliably beat non-Assault Vest Azumarill with Freeze Dry. (against the band set, modest freeze-dry is still a roll and this one is a coinflip, so id probably give an additional example here) A Timid nature allows it to outspeed and OHKO non-Choice Scarf Meowscarada and Adamant Choice Band Dragapult with Ice Beam.
* Iron Bundle can also run an alternative spread of 232 HP / 68 Def / 160 SpA / 48 Spe with a Timid Nature. The HP and Defevnse EVs allow Iron Bundle to live a Giga Impact from Choice Band Slaking after Chilling Water. The Speed EVs allow Iron Bundle to outspeed Iron Moth and Adamant Meowscarada.
* While Ice Beam beats most Corviknight, using it against specially defensive Corviknight can lead to Iron Bundle losing, so it should use Hydro Pump if you are sure that it is specially defensive Corviknight. (is specially defensive corv a thing? is it common enough to warrant a mention bc its not on the set comp and the pressure stall set just loses to ice beam)

 

[Lumii]

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bundle

[SET]
Iron Bundle @ Choice Specs
Ability: Quark Drive
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Freeze Dry
- Blizzard / Hyper Beam / Chilling Water

[SET COMMENTS]
* Hydro Pump OHKOes Skeledirge, Arcanine, Volcarona, and non-Assault Vest Iron Moth. (are there any other mons that you ohko with pump? a non-fire type example would be nice)
* Freeze Dry OHKOes Choice Band Dondozo (on the leftovers set it's a roll in your favor but it's still significant enough (68.8%)) and non-Speed Booster Energy Walking Wake. (add period)
* Blizzard OHKOes non-Assault Vest Iron Leaves and Wo-Chien. (add period)
* Hyper Beam OHKOes opposing Iron Bundle.
* Using a Modest nature allows Iron Bundle to reliably beat non-Assault Vest Azumarill with Freeze Dry. (against the band set, modest freeze-dry is still a roll and this one is a coinflip, so id probably give an additional example here) A Timid nature allows it to outspeed and OHKO non-Choice Scarf Meowscarada and Adamant Choice Band Dragapult with Ice Beam.
* Iron Bundle can also run an alternative spread of 232 HP / 68 Def / 160 SpA / 48 Spe with a Timid Nature. The HP and Defevnse EVs allow Iron Bundle to live a Giga Impact from Choice Band Slaking after Chilling Water. The Speed EVs allow Iron Bundle to outspeed Iron Moth and Adamant Meowscarada.
* While Ice Beam beats most Corviknight, using it against specially defensive Corviknight can lead to Iron Bundle losing, so it should use Hydro Pump if you are sure that it is specially defensive Corviknight. (is specially defensive corv a thing? is it common enough to warrant a mention bc its not on the set comp and the pressure stall set just loses to ice beam)

stamping this with a few changes of my own. Instead of the Choice Band Dondozo change, just say it beats Dondozo instead of saying OHKOing it, don't worry about the set variants you end up winning no matter what. I'd also suggest potentially removing the Modest set if you don't find better examples. Finally, the biggest change I can make here is that you absolutely need to put the nature in the [SET] part, but whether that ends up being Timid or Timid / Modest is up to you rn.

Also we talked about the Specially Defensive Corv thing but please call it Pressure stall.

DM me for a final check, but this is pretty much a 1/2, credit both me and Vertigo.

 

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[SET]
Choice Specs (Iron Bundle) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Quark Drive
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Freeze Dry
- Blizzard / Hyper Beam / Chilling Water

[SET COMMENTS]
* Hydro Pump OHKOes Skeledirge, Arcanine, non-Passho Berry Volcarona, non-Assault Vest Iron Moth, and non-specially defensive Espathra. petaya wins, you only beat physdef espathra, maybe remove this mention for something else?
* Freeze Dry beats Dondozo and non-Speed Booster Energy Walking Wake.
* Blizzard OHKOes non-Assault Vest Iron Leaves and Wo-Chien.
* Hyper Beam OHKOes opposing Iron Bundle.
any examples for chilling water other than slaking with that ev spread?
* Iron Bundle can also run an alternative spread of 232 HP / 68 Def / 160 SpA / 48 Spe with a Timid Nature. The HP and Defense EVs allow Iron Bundle to live a Giga Impact from Choice Band Slaking after Chilling Water. The Speed EVs allow Iron Bundle to outspeed Iron Moth and Adamant Meowscarada.
* While Ice Beam has a high chance to beat non-specially defensive Pressure stall Corviknight, if you are sure that Corviknight is a specially defensive Pressure stall set, you can attempt to use Hydro Pump to win, but this is not reliable. does changing to modest help you beat this?
[CREDITS]
Set(s) created by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bo_bobson27.546922/

Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bea.481149/

Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/lumii.493772/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/vertigo.543620/

Grammar checked by:
[insert user link]

2/2 implement properly.

 

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fuck ground types

[SET]
Choice Specs (Iron Bundle) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Quark Drive
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Freeze Dry
- Blizzard / Hyper Beam / Chilling Water

[SET COMMENTS]
* Hydro Pump OHKOes Skeledirge, Arcanine, non-Passho Berry Volcarona, non-Assault Vest Iron Moth, and non-specially defensive Espathra. petaya wins, you only beat physdef espathra, maybe remove this mention for something else?
* Freeze Dry beats Dondozo and non-Speed Booster Energy Walking Wake.
* Blizzard OHKOes non-Assault Vest Iron Leaves and Wo-Chien.
* Hyper Beam OHKOes opposing Iron Bundle.
any examples for chilling water other than slaking with that ev spread?
* Iron Bundle can also run an alternative spread of 232 HP / 68 Def / 160 SpA / 48 Spe with a Timid Nature. The HP and Defense EVs allow Iron Bundle to live a Giga Impact from Choice Band Slaking after Chilling Water. The Speed EVs allow Iron Bundle to outspeed Iron Moth and Adamant Meowscarada.
* While Ice Beam has a high chance to beat non-specially defensive Pressure stall Corviknight, if you are sure that Corviknight is a specially defensive Pressure stall set, you can attempt to use Hydro Pump to win, but this is not reliable. does changing to modest help you beat this?
[CREDITS]
Set(s) created by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bo_bobson27.546922/

Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bea.481149/

Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/lumii.493772/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/vertigo.543620/

Grammar checked by:
[insert user link]

2/2 implement properly.

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GP Team

 

[Sulo]

GP 1/1

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[SET]
Choice Specs (Iron Bundle) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Quark Drive
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Freeze-Dry added hyphen
- Blizzard / Hyper Beam / Chilling Water

[SET COMMENTS]
* Hydro Pump OHKOes Skeledirge, Arcanine, non-Passho Berry Volcarona, non-Assault Vest Iron Moth, Iron Treads, and physically defensive Espathra.
* Freeze-Dry added hyphen beats Dondozo and non-Speed Booster Energy Walking Wake.
* Blizzard OHKOes non-Assault Vest Iron Leaves and Wo-Chien.
* Hyper Beam OHKOes opposing Iron Bundle.
* Iron Bundle can also run an alternative EV spread of 232 HP / 68 Def / 160 SpA / 48 Spe with a Timid Nature. The HP and Defense EVs allow Iron Bundle to live a Giga Impact from Choice Band Slaking after Chilling Water. The Speed EVs allow Iron Bundle to outspeed Iron Moth and Adamant Meowscarada.
* While Ice Beam has a high chance to beat non-specially defensive Pressure stall Corviknight, if you are sure that Corviknight is a specially defensive Pressure stall set, you can attempt to use Hydro Pump to win, but this is not reliable.

[CREDITS]
Set(s) created by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bo_bobson27.546922/

Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bea.481149/

Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/lumii.493772/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/vertigo.543620/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bored_glitch.579035/

Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/sulo.528036/

GP Team done

 

[bea]

GP 1/1

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[SET]
Choice Specs (Iron Bundle) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Quark Drive
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Freeze-Dry added hyphen
- Blizzard / Hyper Beam / Chilling Water

[SET COMMENTS]
* Hydro Pump OHKOes Skeledirge, Arcanine, non-Passho Berry Volcarona, non-Assault Vest Iron Moth, Iron Treads, and physically defensive Espathra.
* Freeze-Dry added hyphen beats Dondozo and non-Speed Booster Energy Walking Wake.
* Blizzard OHKOes non-Assault Vest Iron Leaves and Wo-Chien.
* Hyper Beam OHKOes opposing Iron Bundle.
* Iron Bundle can also run an alternative EV spread of 232 HP / 68 Def / 160 SpA / 48 Spe with a Timid Nature. The HP and Defense EVs allow Iron Bundle to live a Giga Impact from Choice Band Slaking after Chilling Water. The Speed EVs allow Iron Bundle to outspeed Iron Moth and Adamant Meowscarada.
* While Ice Beam has a high chance to beat non-specially defensive Pressure stall Corviknight, if you are sure that Corviknight is a specially defensive Pressure stall set, you can attempt to use Hydro Pump to win, but this is not reliable.

[CREDITS]
Set(s) created by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bo_bobson27.546922/

Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bea.481149/

Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/lumii.493772/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/vertigo.543620/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bored_glitch.579035/

Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/sulo.528036/

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