So FE /dt commands on DH are broken atm, so we have to hold off on the room tour until Spandan or charizard8888 fixes the problem :(
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Fusion Evolution V4
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Cookie Butter
formerly the someone
Some more approved changes
Centenarian doesn't boost it's own Special Attack by +1 when it uses an Electric or punch move anymore.
Charatos now lowers opponent's Attack on switch-in, instead of Defense.
Salasaur doesn't halve the speed of Poisoned Pokemon anymore. It gains the regular effect of Corrosion to make up for it.
Asterisk's boosts (to moves with 60BP or less and moves with secondary effects) goes from x2 to x1.5 and don't stack anymore. However, it gains the regular Serene Grace effect to make up for it. (No 180BP Sludge Wave or 240BP Ancient Power anymore, sorry)
Flyorus Guard now takes no damage in the turn it switches in, as opposed to having a "shield" that lasted until it got hit. It also gets Ground immunity effect to complete the Levitate effect (was already immune to ground-based hazards).
Smolitizer now takes 3/4 damage from super-effective moves instead of 1/2.
Yvenne's boosts (to moves that heal the user and amount of HP recovered from moves) goes from x1.729 to x1.63.
Gengalure's ability now also triggers with screens, since the base ability Infiltrator works on both substitutes and screens.
Snoopa now gets Fire- and Ice-type resistance when it is not holding an item.
In an attempt to make it more balanced, Diceus gets a -20 HP reduction, and it's DNA boosts go to +10 Def and +10 SpD. It's still quickbanned, but will probably be the first one to be tested at a later date.
EDIT:
Wiseau now doesn't deal double damage to Pokemon with stat changes.
Gumshoe now deals double damage to Pokemon not holding an item, instead of Pokemon holding an item. It has Knock Off so it's not too big of a nerf.
Centenarian doesn't boost it's own Special Attack by +1 when it uses an Electric or punch move anymore.
Charatos now lowers opponent's Attack on switch-in, instead of Defense.
Salasaur doesn't halve the speed of Poisoned Pokemon anymore. It gains the regular effect of Corrosion to make up for it.
Asterisk's boosts (to moves with 60BP or less and moves with secondary effects) goes from x2 to x1.5 and don't stack anymore. However, it gains the regular Serene Grace effect to make up for it. (No 180BP Sludge Wave or 240BP Ancient Power anymore, sorry)
Flyorus Guard now takes no damage in the turn it switches in, as opposed to having a "shield" that lasted until it got hit. It also gets Ground immunity effect to complete the Levitate effect (was already immune to ground-based hazards).
Smolitizer now takes 3/4 damage from super-effective moves instead of 1/2.
Yvenne's boosts (to moves that heal the user and amount of HP recovered from moves) goes from x1.729 to x1.63.
Gengalure's ability now also triggers with screens, since the base ability Infiltrator works on both substitutes and screens.
Snoopa now gets Fire- and Ice-type resistance when it is not holding an item.
In an attempt to make it more balanced, Diceus gets a -20 HP reduction, and it's DNA boosts go to +10 Def and +10 SpD. It's still quickbanned, but will probably be the first one to be tested at a later date.
EDIT:
Wiseau now doesn't deal double damage to Pokemon with stat changes.
Gumshoe now deals double damage to Pokemon not holding an item, instead of Pokemon holding an item. It has Knock Off so it's not too big of a nerf.
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Since these two are my fusions, I’m just gonna do this myself. Taiwan and Passcraft are quickbanned. They gain additional item and ability effects respectively, and I just don’t think anyone wants to put up with those sorts of things in OU. I cant think of a way to nerf them so I’m just quickbanning these two instead. Oh yeah, one more thing.
Mega Fusions are now banned based on species, not by stone.
AquaticPanic If you could add the new megas to the spreadsheet, that’d be great.
Mega Fusions are now banned based on species, not by stone.
AquaticPanic If you could add the new megas to the spreadsheet, that’d be great.
Yung Dramps
awesome gaming
What megas have been allowed as a result of this change?
What stones were unlocked by this? (So I can do the changes)
Diancite, Gengarite, Kangaskhanite, Beedrillite, Mawilite, Medichamite
That means the following Megas are freed for now:
EDIT: ...Oh, right, I forgot the Bunny forms.
EDIT 2: And if you're curious about Mega Quinda...
Normal/Flying, 102/135/90/135/90/107 (659 BST) with Delta Stream
- Mega Thundurbee: Bug/Electric, 72/180/55/55/90/175 (627 BST) with Adaptability
- Mega Moltie: Fairy/Fire, 90/160/80/180/80/139 (729 BST) with Magic Bounce
- Mega Dianbro D (other Mega named S): Water/Fairy, 90/150/90/160/90/100 (680 BST) with Magic Bounce
- Mega Jellie: Ghost/Fairy, 90/140/90/154/90/115 (679 BST) with Magic Bounce
- Mega Miniancie (separated by form by the logic of Crematoria)
- Ore: Rock, 55/140/105/140/105/115 (660 BST) with Magic Bounce
- Jewel: Rock, 55/205/40/205/40/175 (720 BST) with Magic Bounce
- Mega Gengalure: Ghost/Fire, 70/70/105/187/112/125 (669 BST) with Shadow Tag
- Mega Kangorus-Khan: Normal/Dragon, 100/161/115/80/105/113 (674 BST) with Parental Bond
- Mega Kasukabe: Normal/Fighting, 109/147/129/67/103/113 (668 BST) with Parental Bond
- Mega Gearchamp: Fighting/Fairy, 80/124/105/125/105/105 (644 BST) with Pure Power
EDIT: ...Oh, right, I forgot the Bunny forms.
- Mega Bunny (Beedrillite): Dragon/Normal, 70/145/70/30/70/171 (556 BST) with Adaptability
- Mega Bunny (Diancite): Dragon/Normal, 70/145/30/120/30/161 (556 BST) with Magic Bounce
- Mega Bunny (Gengarite): Dragon/Normal, 70/85/90/100/90/121 (556 BST) with Shadow Tag
- Mega Bunny (Kangaskhanite): Dragon/Normal, 70/115/90/80/90/111 (556 BST) with Parental Bond
- Mega Bunny (Mawilite): Dragon/Normal, 70/105/110/60/110/101 (556 BST) with Huge Power
- Mega Bunny (Medichamite): Dragon/Normal, 70/125/80/80/80/121 (556 BST) with Pure Power
EDIT 2: And if you're curious about Mega Quinda...
Normal/Flying, 102/135/90/135/90/107 (659 BST) with Delta Stream
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And 6 more Bunnies :3
Megas of Thundurbee, Moltie and Miniancie are taking a one way trip to Ubers due to raw strength and speed. Thundurbee is the only one who I’m a little uncertain on but I’m quickbanning for now unless people disagree. Gearchamp is good in OU. The rest I wanna keep but I’m on the fence.
I'm not sure if we should really unban Gengarite. Shadow Tag is its biggest reason it got banned from regular OU because Mega Gengar can abuse it so much.
Since we are on the topic of unbanning stuff, I gotta ask - what is the status of certain Uber Pokemon?
The Ubers in question are
- Landorus
- Marshadow
- Genesect
- Deoxys Speed and Defense
- Darkrai
- Blaziken (Mega)
- Shaymin-Sky
- Aegislash
And any other Uber lowkey made irrelevant by the massive power level of common fusions. (Zekrom? Reshiram? Deoxys-N? Mega Rayquaza?)
I mean we got several fusions of all of them (other than Blaziken. WTF?!?!?) and ofc they are (for the most part) are allowed. If anything at least unban poor Landorus. Its absolute trash as of rn.
The Ubers in question are
- Landorus
- Marshadow
- Genesect
- Deoxys Speed and Defense
- Darkrai
- Blaziken (Mega)
- Shaymin-Sky
- Aegislash
And any other Uber lowkey made irrelevant by the massive power level of common fusions. (Zekrom? Reshiram? Deoxys-N? Mega Rayquaza?)
I mean we got several fusions of all of them (other than Blaziken. WTF?!?!?) and ofc they are (for the most part) are allowed. If anything at least unban poor Landorus. Its absolute trash as of rn.
We unban the stone and ban the mega to ubers if it's broken
Tbh I agree with all of these. Marshadow is outclassed by Mega Lucashadow, kind of
Also can we unban mega ray fusions too? Cause MEga Quinda is pretty weak. We could ban the op ones to AG
Quinda is the only Rayquaza fusion lol.
Sorry to tell you bro, but Avaizard is booty trash. And it would be unfair to buff Avaizard and leave out all the other trash mons.
T.I.A.
formerly Ticktock
Well, yeah, I knew it would be trash. How about we decide to buff most of the trash tier mons after we nerf what overpowered shit needs to be toned down. In fact, I'll start with Kindle, which is now called Cyromancer
Old: During hail, it's Fire moves are powered up by 1.5x and recovers 1/16 HP every turn.
New: Treats Hail as Sun and recieves any effects from both weathers. Sun also now gains Hail's effects as well. Boosts Fire-type moves by 50% and restores 1/16th of its HP every turn.
gengarite Bunny? Or does that suck? :v
we've already agreed not to buff stuff unless they are literally as bad as old shrek
Cookie Butter
formerly the someone
Eh could work. Unlike something like Dugtrio, it doesn't have Memento, but it has Core Enforcer, Pain Split and Healing Wish so it could be used. Keep in mind Bunny takes the mega slot.
T.I.A.
formerly Ticktock
Eh, apparantly Avaizard was apparantly pretty bad, probably a bit more than old Shrek.
Cookie Butter
formerly the someone
If you want to buff it, at least make the ability make more sense. The old one is perfectly understandable, the new one I have no idea where it came from. Looks like you fused Ice Body with both Solar Power and Blaze.
Suggestion: Ice Body + Solar Power: During hail or sun, this Pokemon's Special Attack is 1.5x and recovers 1/16 HP every turn. Stacks in Solar Hail.
Yung Dramps
awesome gaming
Shrek pre-buff was a Grass/Flying type with not one stat above 100 and a mostly useless ability considering its shit speed. Avaizard is bad, but not anywhere near as bad as pre-buff Shrek.
T.I.A.
formerly Ticktock
Well, I like that.
Yung Dramps
awesome gaming
small buff for one of my fusions
Type: Blade
Ravage: No longer reduces accuracy.
We discussed in discord, and the 0.9x accuracy reduction isn't necessary.
Type: Blade
Ravage: No longer reduces accuracy.
We discussed in discord, and the 0.9x accuracy reduction isn't necessary.
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