OU Dual Screens Deoxys-Speed

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[SET]
Dual Screens (Deoxys-Speed) @ Light Clay
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Steel
Timid Nature
- Taunt
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Psycho Boost

[SET COMMENTS]
Thanks to its unparalleled Speed tier and access to an array of solid utility options, Deoxys-S is one of the best dual screens setters in OU. Taunt is key in preventing Pokemon like Glimmora, Skarmory, Ting-Lu, and Landorus-T from laying entry hazards and setup threats such as Swords Dance Ogerpon-W and Dragon Dance Kyurem from boosting while Deoxys-S sets dual screens. Psycho Boost lets Deoxys-S have some sort of offensive presence; it can obliterate lead Glimmora while overwhelming neutral targets like Dondozo and physically defensive Skeledirge. Deoxys-S generally should not Terastallize, as being unable to Terastallize a wallbreaker later in the match could be game ending. However, in a pinch, Tera Steel can let it more easily set dual screens against priority users like Weavile, Dragonite, and Rillaboom.

Deoxys-S is a fixture on dual screens hyper offense teams thanks to its absolutely blazing Speed that surpasses every unboosted Pokemon in the tier, letting it ensure at least one of Reflect or Light Screen go up. Setup sweepers like Dragon Dance Roaring Moon, Iron Boulder, Volcarona, Iron Valiant, and Serperior are amazing at making use of Deoxys-S's screens support, taking a hit from potential revenge killers such as Kingambit and Cinderace with it and being able to strike back strong. In particular, Volcarona's solid natural bulk and ability to switch in on Pokemon that would otherwise break Deoxys-S like Weavile and Kingambit make it an excellent partner. Cleaners such as Dragon Dance Kyurem, Kingambit, and Choice Scarf Enamorus are similarly potent behind dual screens. Due to Ceaseless Edge, Hisuian Samurott's Spikes cannot be denied by Deoxys-S, so Pokemon that can take advantage of Hisuian Samurott such as Iron Valiant and Enamorus are good teammates. Entry hazard control options like Great Tusk, Iron Treads, and Hatterene also make for good partners in the event that Deoxys-S is unable to prevent hazards being set. Great Tusk and Hatterene in particular can double as potent bulky setup sweepers with Bulk Up and Calm Mind, respectively. Other bulky setup Pokemon like Latias and Iron Crown benefit similarly from screens.

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[SET]
Dual Screens (Deoxys-Speed) @ Light Clay
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Steel
Timid Nature
- Taunt
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Psycho Boost

[SET COMMENTS]
Thanks to its unparalleled Speed tier, decent bulk for a utility Pokemon (realistically speaking speed+moveset is what makes it a good screens setter), and access to solid utility options, Deoxys-S is one of the best screens setters in the OU metagame. Taunt is key in preventing other Pokemon from setting up while Deoxys-S sets screens, namely entry hazard setters like Glimmora, Skarmory, Ting-Lu, and Landorus-Therian as well as set-up threats such as Iron Boulder, Dragon Dance Kyurem, and Calm Mind Iron Valiant (ok but wouldn't you rather psycho boost it? idt the ival user would waste their tera t1 and cm considering there might be stuff like boulder in the back). Psycho Boost lets Deoxys-S have some sort of offensive presence and is able to overwhelm neutral targets like Gliscor, Dondozo, and (defensive / physically defensive?) Skeledirge (idt ure overwhelming gliscor all that much; it has poison heal and u go down to -2 spa. tbf ure moreso hitting stuff like glimmora than defensive options). Tera Steel turns its weaknesses into neutralities which gives it more staying power against Dark-types like Kingambit, Meowscarada, and Weavile while also opening it up to set up against Pokemon like Galarian Slowking, Rillaboom, and Alolan Ninetales (glowking doesnt rly stop u. i think rilla is the one that's most important, u might wanna give gglide a special mention) (would u recommend the reader to tera deo? i think that would be a waste cuz ur ho mons might need it later in the game. most of the time reflect / lscreen works good for hits anyway. so ye u might wanna briefly say its not recommended to tera ur deo early unless rly necessary)

Deoxys-S is a fixture on screens hyper offense teams thanks to its absolutely blazing Speed that surpasses every unboosted Pokemon in the tier letting it ensure at least one screen goes up. Set-up breakers like Dragon Dance Roaring Moon, Iron Boulder, Volcarona, Swords Dance Iron Valiant, and Serperior are amazing at taking advantage of Deoxys-S's screens support, taking a hit from potential revenge killers such as Kingambit and Sucker Punch Cinderace (most of the examples u mentioned can take a hit anyway, valiant / no tera moon / volc. screens r beneficial for them not only for rk but also general hits mons take when setting up so ye) and being able to strike back strong. In particular, Volcarona's solid natural bulk and ability to switch in on Pokemon that would otherwise overwhelm Deoxys-S like Weavile and Kingambit make it an excellent partner for Deoxys-S. Cleaners such as Dragon Dance Kyurem, Kingambit, and Choice Scarf Enamorus (is healing wish worth a mention?) are similarly potent behind screens. Hazard control options like Great Tusk, Iron Treads, and Hatterene make for good partners in the event that Deoxys-S is unable to prevent opposing hazard setters from setting up hazards (do u think hamurott deserves a special mention here? under normal circumstances deo can just taunt hazards but it's got no way around ceaseless edge). The latter can also double as an extremely bulky set-up breaker with Calm Mind. Other bulky set-up Pokemon like Latias and Iron Crown benefit similarly from screens.

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Implement all of the above; zastra left these suggestions open-ended enough that you have quite a few ways of doing so, so tag both of us when you've done so. This is not QC 1/2 yet.
 

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[SET]
Dual Screens (Deoxys-Speed) @ Light Clay
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Steel
Timid Nature
- Taunt
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Psycho Boost

[SET COMMENTS]
Thanks to its unparalleled Speed tier, decent bulk for a utility Pokemon (realistically speaking speed+moveset is what makes it a good screens setter), and access to solid utility options, Deoxys-S is one of the best screens setters in the OU metagame. Taunt is key in preventing other Pokemon from setting up while Deoxys-S sets screens, namely entry hazard setters like Glimmora, Skarmory, Ting-Lu, and Landorus-Therian as well as set-up threats such as Iron Boulder, Dragon Dance Kyurem, and Calm Mind Iron Valiant (ok but wouldn't you rather psycho boost it? idt the ival user would waste their tera t1 and cm considering there might be stuff like boulder in the back). Psycho Boost lets Deoxys-S have some sort of offensive presence and is able to overwhelm neutral targets like Gliscor, Dondozo, and (defensive / physically defensive?) Skeledirge (idt ure overwhelming gliscor all that much; it has poison heal and u go down to -2 spa. tbf ure moreso hitting stuff like glimmora than defensive options). Tera Steel turns its weaknesses into neutralities which gives it more staying power against Dark-types like Kingambit, Meowscarada, and Weavile while also opening it up to set up against Pokemon like Galarian Slowking, Rillaboom, and Alolan Ninetales (glowking doesnt rly stop u. i think rilla is the one that's most important, u might wanna give gglide a special mention) (would u recommend the reader to tera deo? i think that would be a waste cuz ur ho mons might need it later in the game. most of the time reflect / lscreen works good for hits anyway. so ye u might wanna briefly say its not recommended to tera ur deo early unless rly necessary)

Deoxys-S is a fixture on screens hyper offense teams thanks to its absolutely blazing Speed that surpasses every unboosted Pokemon in the tier letting it ensure at least one screen goes up. Set-up breakers like Dragon Dance Roaring Moon, Iron Boulder, Volcarona, Swords Dance Iron Valiant, and Serperior are amazing at taking advantage of Deoxys-S's screens support, taking a hit from potential revenge killers such as Kingambit and Sucker Punch Cinderace (most of the examples u mentioned can take a hit anyway, valiant / no tera moon / volc. screens r beneficial for them not only for rk but also general hits mons take when setting up so ye) and being able to strike back strong. In particular, Volcarona's solid natural bulk and ability to switch in on Pokemon that would otherwise overwhelm Deoxys-S like Weavile and Kingambit make it an excellent partner for Deoxys-S. Cleaners such as Dragon Dance Kyurem, Kingambit, and Choice Scarf Enamorus (is healing wish worth a mention?) are similarly potent behind screens. Hazard control options like Great Tusk, Iron Treads, and Hatterene make for good partners in the event that Deoxys-S is unable to prevent opposing hazard setters from setting up hazards (do u think hamurott deserves a special mention here? under normal circumstances deo can just taunt hazards but it's got no way around ceaseless edge). The latter can also double as an extremely bulky set-up breaker with Calm Mind. Other bulky set-up Pokemon like Latias and Iron Crown benefit similarly from screens.

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Implement all of the above; zastra left these suggestions open-ended enough that you have quite a few ways of doing so, so tag both of us when you've done so. This is not QC 1/2 yet.
implemented all of this :blobthumbsup:
 
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[SET]
Dual Screens (Deoxys-Speed) @ Light Clay
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Steel
Timid Nature
- Taunt
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Psycho Boost

[SET COMMENTS]
Thanks to its unparalleled Speed tier and access to an array of solid utility options, Deoxys-S is one of the best screens setters in the OU metagame. Taunt is key in preventing other Pokemon from setting up while Deoxys-S sets screens, namely entry hazard setters like Glimmora, Skarmory, Ting-Lu, and Landorus-Therian as well as set-up threats such as Iron Boulder (Iron Boulder outspeeds you with Booster Energy so you can't Taunt it before it sets up, some other setup mons that you can't touch could be better instead) and Dragon Dance Kyurem. Psycho Boost lets Deoxys-S have some sort of offensive presence and is able to overwhelm neutral targets like Dondozo and physically defensive Skeledirge while also obliterating the likes of Glimmora. (Glimmora is more important to list here as an opposing lead, rather than defensive targets as you typically won't be using this to break - you could maybe keep the defensive mons but switch the order that this is listed in as the lead matchups are most important) Deoxys-S generally should not Terastalize, as being unable to use Tera on a breaker later in the game could be game-ending. However, in a pinch, Tera Steel can turn its weaknesses into neutralities which gives it more staying power against Dark-types like Kingambit, Meowscarada, and Weavile (It can let you set up a second screen in front of them in a pinch, but you still outspeed to set screens and can't touch them back so I don't know if these are really worth a mention outside of maybe throwing up a panic screen in front of Weavile's Ice Shard) while also opening it up to set up screens against Pokemon like Rillaboom and Alolan Ninetales, (Ninetales-A really doesn't threaten Deo-S with big damage, as you outspeed and with a screen up Moonblast does 18% max) especially the former due to gaining a resistance to Grassy Glide. (Hard to suggest much reasoning for Tera Steel cus it's really not used often tbh, another reason could maybe be to set a screen in front of Espeed Dnite but idrk)

(You could potentially mention Stealth Rock as an alternative to Psycho Boost in the paragraph for maximum role compression as the cost of being left much more passive, but up to you as it's usually worse than having a way to deal damage)


Deoxys-S is a fixture on screens hyper offense teams thanks to its absolutely blazing Speed that surpasses every unboosted Pokemon in the tier letting it ensure at least one screen goes up. Set-up breakers like Dragon Dance Roaring Moon, Iron Boulder, Volcarona, Swords Dance Iron Valiant, (Prob don't have to specify SD Val since CM also works on screens) and Serperior are amazing at taking advantage of Deoxys-S's screens support, taking a hit from potential revenge killers such as Kingambit and Sucker Punch Cinderace (Sucker Punch in particular isn't what lets Cinderace beat Deo-S, since Deo-S doesn't really attack into it without a screen up and you can Taunt to prevent Court Change if you opt to get screens up on it. I think more important than anything to emphasise here is the ability for a partner to use the Pokemon that would kill or come in on Deo-S as setup fodder.) and being able to strike back strong. In particular, Volcarona's solid natural bulk and ability to switch in on Pokemon that would otherwise overwhelm (Not sure if overwhelm is the right word, since Deo-S is never dealing with them itself) Deoxys-S like Weavile and Kingambit make it an excellent partner for Deoxys-S. Cleaners such as Dragon Dance Kyurem, Kingambit, and Choice Scarf Enamorus are similarly potent behind screens. The latter also appreciates screens letting it more effectively use Healing Wish. (Scarf Enam isn't a terrible pairing, but it doesn't really need screens to use HWish unless it's forced to come in on a hit, setup sweepers that can better take advantage of screens are more valuable) Hazard control options like Great Tusk, Iron Treads, and Hatterene make for good partners in the event that Deoxys-S is unable to prevent opposing hazard setters from setting up hazards. The latter can also double as an extremely bulky set-up breaker with Calm Mind. (Could note that both Tusk and Hatt can act as win-conditions that take advantage of screens, as BU Tusk is a pretty good fit on screens teams) Other bulky set-up Pokemon like (Maybe also mention Raging Bolt here, as it's more relevant than these two and works well with screens) Latias and Iron Crown benefit similarly from screens. Due to Ceaseless Edge, Hisuian Samurott's Spikes cannot be denied setting by Deoxys-S. Pokemon that can take advantage of Hisuian Samurott such as Iron Valiant and Enamorus make for good countermeasures as a result. (Might be worth moving this to be next to where you mentioned hazard control options, as this is the main thing that leads into and gets up hazards on Deoxys-S)

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Nice writeup, stamping this as QC 2/2 when implemented!
 

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[SET]
Dual Screens (Deoxys-Speed) @ Light Clay
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Steel
Timid Nature
- Taunt
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Psycho Boost

[SET COMMENTS]
Thanks to its unparalleled Speed tier and access to an array of solid utility options, Deoxys-S is one of the best dual screens setters in the OU metagame. Taunt is key in preventing other Pokemon from setting up while Deoxys-S sets dual screens, namely entry hazard setters like Glimmora, Skarmory, Ting-Lu, and Landorus-Therian, (AC) as well as set-up setup threats such as Swords Dance Ogerpon-W and Dragon Dance Kyurem. Psycho Boost lets Deoxys-S have some sort of offensive presence; (ASC) and it can obliterate opposing lead Glimmora while overwhelming neutral targets like Dondozo and physically defensive Skeledirge. Deoxys-S generally should not Terastalize Terastallize, as being unable to use Tera on Terastallize a breaker (what kind of breaker? This must be wallbreaker or stallbreaker) later in the game could be game-ending. However, in a pinch, Tera Steel can turn its weaknesses into neutralities, letting let it more easily set up against priority users like Weavile, Dragonite, and Rillaboom (none of the priority moves these Pokemon use are Dark-type, so this was changed for clarity).

Deoxys-S is a fixture on screens hyper offense teams thanks to its absolutely blazing Speed that surpasses every unboosted Pokemon in the tier, (AC) letting it ensure at least one screen of Reflect or Light Screen goes go up. Set-up breakers Setup sweepers like Dragon Dance Roaring Moon, Iron Boulder, Volcarona, Iron Valiant, and Serperior are amazing at taking advantage of Deoxys-S's dual screens support, (becoming able to take?) taking a hit from potential revenge killers such as Kingambit and Cinderace and being able to strike back strong. In particular, Volcarona's solid natural bulk and ability to switch in on against Pokemon that would otherwise break Deoxys-S like Weavile and Kingambit make it an excellent partner for Deoxys-S. Cleaners such as Dragon Dance Kyurem, Kingambit, and Choice Scarf Enamorus are similarly potent behind dual screens. Due to Ceaseless Edge, Hisuian Samurott's Spikes cannot be denied by Deoxys-S, so Pokemon that can take advantage of Hisuian Samurott such as Iron Valiant and Enamorus make for good countermeasures. Hazard Entry hazard control options like Great Tusk, Iron Treads, and Hatterene also make for good partners in the event that Deoxys-S is unable to prevent opposing hazard setters from setting up hazards getting hazards up (repetition). Great Tusk and Hatterene and in particular can double as potent bulky setup sweepers with Bulk Up and Calm Mind, (AC) respectively. Other bulky set-up setup Pokemon like Latias and Iron Crown benefit similarly from dual screens.

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[SET]
Dual Screens (Deoxys-Speed) @ Light Clay
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Steel
Timid Nature
- Taunt
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Psycho Boost

[SET COMMENTS]
Thanks to its unparalleled Speed tier and access to an array of solid utility options, Deoxys-S is one of the best dual screens setters in the OU metagame. Taunt is key in preventing other Pokemon from setting up while Deoxys-S sets screens, namely entry hazard setters like Glimmora, Skarmory, Ting-Lu, and Landorus-Therian as well as set-up threats such as Swords Dance Ogerpon-W and Dragon Dance Kyurem. Taunt is key in preventing Pokemon like Glimmora, Skarmory, Ting-Lu, and Landorus-T from laying entry hazards and setup threats such as Swords Dance Ogerpon-W and Dragon Dance Kyurem from boosting while Deoxys-S sets dual screens. ("setting up" on its own refers to Pokemon boosting their stats, so the original didn't really work) Psycho Boost lets Deoxys-S have some sort of offensive presence; (ASC) and it can obliterate opposing lead Glimmora while overwhelming neutral targets like Dondozo and physically defensive Skeledirge. Deoxys-S generally should not Terastalize Terastallize, as being unable to use Tera on Terastallize a breaker wallbreaker later in the game match could be game-ending game ending. However, in a pinch, Tera Steel can turn its weaknesses into neutralities, letting let it more easily set up dual screens against priority users like Weavile, Dragonite, and Rillaboom (changed because it's only removing weaknesses against Weavile).

Deoxys-S is a fixture on dual screens hyper offense teams thanks to its absolutely blazing Speed that surpasses every unboosted Pokemon in the tier, (AC) letting it ensure at least one screen of Reflect or Light Screen goes up. Set-up breakers Setup sweepers like Dragon Dance Roaring Moon, Iron Boulder, Volcarona, Iron Valiant, and Serperior are amazing at taking advantage making use of of Deoxys-S's dual screens support, taking a hit from potential revenge killers such as Kingambit and Cinderace with it and being able to strike back strong. In particular, Volcarona's solid natural bulk and ability to switch in on Pokemon that would otherwise break Deoxys-S like Weavile and Kingambit make it an excellent partner for Deoxys-S. Cleaners such as Dragon Dance Kyurem, Kingambit, and Choice Scarf Enamorus are similarly potent behind dual screens. Due to Ceaseless Edge, Hisuian Samurott's Spikes cannot be denied by Deoxys-S, so Pokemon that can take advantage of Hisuian Samurott such as Iron Valiant and Enamorus make for good countermeasures are good teammates. Hazard Entry hazard control options like Great Tusk, Iron Treads, and Hatterene also make for good partners in the event that Deoxys-S is unable to prevent opposing hazard setters from setting up hazards hazards being set. Great Tusk and Hatterene and in particular can double as potent bulky setup sweepers with Bulk Up and Calm Mind, (AC) respectively. Other bulky set-up setup Pokemon like Latias and Iron Crown benefit similarly from dual screens.

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- "setting up" on its own refers to Pokemon boosting their stats, so using it to talk about hazard setters setting hazards without elaboration doesn't really work.
- The forme name is "Landorus-T", not "Landorus-Therian".
- "game-ending" shouldn't be hyphenated here because it's not being used attributively (it doesn't come before a noun).
- "Reflect or Light Screen" uses "or", meaning it's singular and should therefore be proceeded by "goes" rather than "go".
- "switch in on" is a fine and commonly used phrase.

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