UPDATE: This whole thread is useless now, as expected, as moves do not transfer from said Sw/Sh, BD/SP, nor PLA
RE-POSTED, cause i posted it in the wrong board, so here it is in where it should be
This is assuming it counts more than just level-up moves which we'll have to wait until HOME comes out to see if it is the case, hence the "Unconfirmed" in the title. Hell this whole thread could even be useless for all i know.
They're probably gonna be banned in Ranked Battles (a.k.a. VGC).
Any transfer moves from Gen 7 or older are still off the table (ex; no Scald Greninja, no Superpower Honchkrow, no Toxic nor Knock Off on most mons still, no Roost or Defog on nearly anything past Gen 4, no Event moves), one example being Hydreigon can't keep Defog but Dragonite
Here's the PokePaste for all the moves in it - https://pokepast.es/61efb08088c6199b (Now indludes pre-evos)
* = learns it via level-up in PLA
Bold = 2-stage pre-evo learns it
Italic = a middle pre-evo learns it
Bold and Italic= the whole 3-stage line learns it
Charizard - Scorching Sands, Weather Ball, Roost, Defog
Alolan Raichu - Rising Voltage, Expanding Force, Ally Switch, Speed Swap
(Alolan) Dugtrio - High Horsepower
Arcanine - Safeguard
Hisuian Arcanine - Play Rough
(Galarian) Slowbro - Scald, Expanding Force, Safeguard
Gengar - Sludge Wave, Ally Switch
Scyther - Dual Wingbeat, Roost
Tauros - Throat Chop, Iron Tail, High Horsepower, Megahorn
Gyarados - Power Whip
Vaporeon - Scald
Jolteon - Weather Ball, Rising Voltage
Flareon - Superpower (still trash tho)
Zapdos - Defog, Weather Ball
Galarian Zapdos - Blaze Kick, Throat Chop
Moltres - Defog, Scorching Sands
Dragonite - Defog, Dual Wingbeat, Superpower, Scale Shot, Safeguard, Breaking Swipe
Mewtwo - Speed Swap, Expanding Force
Mew - Safeguard, Defog, Roost, Toxic, Scald, Cosmic Power, Expanding Force, Poltergeist, Darkest Lariat, Triple Axel, Blaze Kick, High Horsepower, Power Whip, Leaf Blade, Flip Turn, Sludge Wave, Scale Shot, Icicle Spear, Scorching Sands, Meteor Beam, Terrain Pulse, Weather Ball
Quagsire - Scald, High Horsepower, Safeguard
(Galarian) Slowking - Scald, Expanding Force, Safeguard, Sludge Wave (only for G-Slowking), Ally Switch
Espeon - Expanding Force
Scizor - Dual Wingbeat, Roost
Heracross - High Horsepower
Blissey - Draining Kiss, Ally Switch, Safeguard
Tyranitar - High Horsepower, Superpower, Rock Polish, Breaking Swipe
Pelipper - Scald, Defog
Gardevoir - Expanding Force, Ice Beam, Recover*, Ally Switch, Safeguard
Salamence - Defog, Scale Shot, Breaking Swipe
Groudon - Heat Crash
Staraptor - Roost, Defog
Luxray - Superpower (again, still trash tho)
Gastrodon - Scald
Drifblim - Mystical Fire, Ally Switch
Honchkrow - Roost, Defog
Pachirisu - Crunch
Garchomp - Scale Shot, Breaking Swipe
Lucario - Mach Punch*, Blaze Kick, Coaching (specifically for Prankster Coaching Riolu)
Hippowdon - High Horsepower
Toxicroak - Earth Power*
Abomasnow - Icicle Crash*
Weavile - Throat Chop (niche Skeledirge counterplay), Triple Axel
Gallade - Triple Axel, Ally Switch, Focus Energy
Froslass - Triple Axel, Poltergeist, Ally Switch
Uxie - Recover*, Ally Switch
Mesprit - Recover*, Ally Switch
Palkia - Scald, Breaking Swipe
Giratina - Poltergeist, Breaking Swipe
Creeselia - Recover*, Ally Switch
Hisuian Samurott - Psycho Cut, Poison Jab, Iron Tail
Basculin (only red and blue stripe forms tho, so not Basculegion) - Superpower, Flip Turn
Krookodile - Darkest Lariat (also some niche Skeledirge counterplay, assuming you're Moxie), High Horserpower, Scale Shot, Iron Tail
Gothitelle - Ally Switch, Expanding Force, Safeguard
Haxorus - Scale Shot, Superpower (not that Haxorus needs it anymore since Sw/Sh)
Bisharp - Throat Chop
Braviary - Double-Edge*
Hydreigon - Superpower, Breaking Swipe
Volcarona - Safeguard
Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus - Superpower, Weather Ball
Dragalge - Sludge Wave, Scald, Flip Turn
Clawitzer - Terrain Pulse, Flip Turn
Sylveon - Mystical Fire, Safeguard
Hawlucha - Throat Chop
Carbink - Misty Explosion
Goodra - Sludge Wave, Superpower, Breaking Swipe
Hisuian Goodra - Sludge Wave
(Hisuian) Avalugg - Ice Shard, High Horsepower (the former only in PLA)
Diance - Mystical Fire, Meteor Beam, Misty Explosion
Decidueye - Poltergeist
Hisuian Decidueye - Spikes
Toxapex - Scald
Lurantis - Superpower
Tsareena - Triple Axel, Safeguard
Rillaboom - Grassy Glide (just remember it'll be 60 BP now), Superpower, High Horsepower
Inteleon - Focus Energy, Scald, Muddy Water
Drednaw - High Horsepower, Superpower, Megahorn, Throat Chop
Barraskewda - Flip Turn(it's Joever for Floatzel)
Sandaconda - High Horsepower
Hatterene - Expanding Force, Misty Explosion, Safeguard
Grimmsnarl - Darkest Lariat, Superpower, Power Whip
Indeedee - Expanding Force, Mystical Fire, Ally Switch
Falinks - Throat Chop
Stonjourner - Heat Crash
Pincurchin - Rising Voltage, Scald
Copperajah - Power Whip, Heat Crash
Dragapult - Scald, Ally Switch, Breaking Swipe
Eternatus - Sludge Wave, Meteor Beam, Mystical Fire
Zarude - Darkest Lariat, Grassy Glide
Regieleki - Rising Voltage
Glastrier - High Horsepower, Icicle Spear
Calyrex - Speed Swap
Kleavor - Psycho Cut, Roost maybe?
Wyrdeer - High Horsepower
Basculegion - Calm Mind, Psychic
Sneasler - Drain Punch
UPDATE: only Gardevoir gets Recover, not Gallade :/
RE-POSTED, cause i posted it in the wrong board, so here it is in where it should be
This is assuming it counts more than just level-up moves which we'll have to wait until HOME comes out to see if it is the case, hence the "Unconfirmed" in the title. Hell this whole thread could even be useless for all i know.
They're probably gonna be banned in Ranked Battles (a.k.a. VGC).
Any transfer moves from Gen 7 or older are still off the table (ex; no Scald Greninja, no Superpower Honchkrow, no Toxic nor Knock Off on most mons still, no Roost or Defog on nearly anything past Gen 4, no Event moves), one example being Hydreigon can't keep Defog but Dragonite
Here's the PokePaste for all the moves in it - https://pokepast.es/61efb08088c6199b (Now indludes pre-evos)
* = learns it via level-up in PLA
Bold = 2-stage pre-evo learns it
Italic = a middle pre-evo learns it
Bold and Italic= the whole 3-stage line learns it
Charizard - Scorching Sands, Weather Ball, Roost, Defog
Alolan Raichu - Rising Voltage, Expanding Force, Ally Switch, Speed Swap
(Alolan) Dugtrio - High Horsepower
Arcanine - Safeguard
Hisuian Arcanine - Play Rough
(Galarian) Slowbro - Scald, Expanding Force, Safeguard
Gengar - Sludge Wave, Ally Switch
Scyther - Dual Wingbeat, Roost
Tauros - Throat Chop, Iron Tail, High Horsepower, Megahorn
Gyarados - Power Whip
Vaporeon - Scald
Jolteon - Weather Ball, Rising Voltage
Flareon - Superpower (still trash tho)
Zapdos - Defog, Weather Ball
Galarian Zapdos - Blaze Kick, Throat Chop
Moltres - Defog, Scorching Sands
Dragonite - Defog, Dual Wingbeat, Superpower, Scale Shot, Safeguard, Breaking Swipe
Mewtwo - Speed Swap, Expanding Force
Mew - Safeguard, Defog, Roost, Toxic, Scald, Cosmic Power, Expanding Force, Poltergeist, Darkest Lariat, Triple Axel, Blaze Kick, High Horsepower, Power Whip, Leaf Blade, Flip Turn, Sludge Wave, Scale Shot, Icicle Spear, Scorching Sands, Meteor Beam, Terrain Pulse, Weather Ball
Quagsire - Scald, High Horsepower, Safeguard
(Galarian) Slowking - Scald, Expanding Force, Safeguard, Sludge Wave (only for G-Slowking), Ally Switch
Espeon - Expanding Force
Scizor - Dual Wingbeat, Roost
Heracross - High Horsepower
Blissey - Draining Kiss, Ally Switch, Safeguard
Tyranitar - High Horsepower, Superpower, Rock Polish, Breaking Swipe
Pelipper - Scald, Defog
Gardevoir - Expanding Force, Ice Beam, Recover*, Ally Switch, Safeguard
Salamence - Defog, Scale Shot, Breaking Swipe
Groudon - Heat Crash
Staraptor - Roost, Defog
Luxray - Superpower (again, still trash tho)
Gastrodon - Scald
Drifblim - Mystical Fire, Ally Switch
Honchkrow - Roost, Defog
Pachirisu - Crunch
Garchomp - Scale Shot, Breaking Swipe
Lucario - Mach Punch*, Blaze Kick, Coaching (specifically for Prankster Coaching Riolu)
Hippowdon - High Horsepower
Toxicroak - Earth Power*
Abomasnow - Icicle Crash*
Weavile - Throat Chop (niche Skeledirge counterplay), Triple Axel
Gallade - Triple Axel, Ally Switch, Focus Energy
Froslass - Triple Axel, Poltergeist, Ally Switch
Uxie - Recover*, Ally Switch
Mesprit - Recover*, Ally Switch
Palkia - Scald, Breaking Swipe
Giratina - Poltergeist, Breaking Swipe
Creeselia - Recover*, Ally Switch
Hisuian Samurott - Psycho Cut, Poison Jab, Iron Tail
Basculin (only red and blue stripe forms tho, so not Basculegion) - Superpower, Flip Turn
Krookodile - Darkest Lariat (also some niche Skeledirge counterplay, assuming you're Moxie), High Horserpower, Scale Shot, Iron Tail
Gothitelle - Ally Switch, Expanding Force, Safeguard
Haxorus - Scale Shot, Superpower (not that Haxorus needs it anymore since Sw/Sh)
Bisharp - Throat Chop
Braviary - Double-Edge*
Hydreigon - Superpower, Breaking Swipe
Volcarona - Safeguard
Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus - Superpower, Weather Ball
Dragalge - Sludge Wave, Scald, Flip Turn
Clawitzer - Terrain Pulse, Flip Turn
Sylveon - Mystical Fire, Safeguard
Hawlucha - Throat Chop
Carbink - Misty Explosion
Goodra - Sludge Wave, Superpower, Breaking Swipe
Hisuian Goodra - Sludge Wave
(Hisuian) Avalugg - Ice Shard, High Horsepower (the former only in PLA)
Diance - Mystical Fire, Meteor Beam, Misty Explosion
Decidueye - Poltergeist
Hisuian Decidueye - Spikes
Toxapex - Scald
Lurantis - Superpower
Tsareena - Triple Axel, Safeguard
Rillaboom - Grassy Glide (just remember it'll be 60 BP now), Superpower, High Horsepower
Inteleon - Focus Energy, Scald, Muddy Water
Drednaw - High Horsepower, Superpower, Megahorn, Throat Chop
Barraskewda - Flip Turn
Sandaconda - High Horsepower
Hatterene - Expanding Force, Misty Explosion, Safeguard
Grimmsnarl - Darkest Lariat, Superpower, Power Whip
Indeedee - Expanding Force, Mystical Fire, Ally Switch
Falinks - Throat Chop
Stonjourner - Heat Crash
Pincurchin - Rising Voltage, Scald
Copperajah - Power Whip, Heat Crash
Dragapult - Scald, Ally Switch, Breaking Swipe
Eternatus - Sludge Wave, Meteor Beam, Mystical Fire
Zarude - Darkest Lariat, Grassy Glide
Regieleki - Rising Voltage
Glastrier - High Horsepower, Icicle Spear
Calyrex - Speed Swap
Kleavor - Psycho Cut, Roost maybe?
Wyrdeer - High Horsepower
Basculegion - Calm Mind, Psychic
Sneasler - Drain Punch
UPDATE: only Gardevoir gets Recover, not Gallade :/
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