Darmanitan (Belly Drum) [QC 0/3]

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[SET]
name: Belly Drum
move 1: Belly Drum
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Fire Punch
move 4: Rock Slide
item: Salac Berry
nature: Jolly / Adamant
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

Why this set deserves to be on-site:
  • Darmanitan is amazing at forcing switches from common pokes like Ferrothorn and Amoonguss, so setting up is remarkably easy
  • Managing to force something out in sun is pretty much 'gg'
  • Only the rare Unaware Quagsire can take more than one hit
  • Even the bulkiest of walls go down in one hit

Additional Comments:
  • EVs are relatively simple; 4 HP so Salac Berry activates after using Substitute and Belly Drum
  • 252 Atk and Spe maximize offensive potential. Jolly nature is prefered so you outspeed up to neutral base 108's
  • Salac Berry grants a much-needed boost to speed after Substitute and Belly Drum, although you could use Leftovers to negate sandstorm/hail damage

Teammates & Counters:
  • Stealth Rock is almost required so Darmanitan can bust through Sturdy/Focus Sashes
  • Dual Screens support is very helpful to make breaking Darmanitan's Substitute harder
  • Ninetales/sun is a boon; sun boosts the power of Darmanitan's STAB and removes sandstorm
  • Starmie/any other spinner is a good partner because this Darmanitan set hates hazards even more than usual
  • Although rare, Unaware Quagsire is the only thing that can counter Darmanitan after it sets up
  • About any fast Choice Scarf user can revenge kill Darmanitan once its Substitute is broken
  • Anything with priority, i.e. Lucario, Dragonite and Scizor, can take out Darmanitan, although Substitute makes this more difficult
  • Focus Sash Alakazam can revenge kill it, again, provided Substitute is broken
  • Provided hazards aren't up on the opponent's field and it hasn't taken prior damage, Skarmory can take a hit and phaze Darmanitan out
  • Sandstorm and hail can also kill Darmanitan through its Substitute
 

Pocket

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drakon136 joined.
the pdc show joined.
Format: OU
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Species Clause
Rule: OHKO Clause
Rule: Evasion Clause
drakon136's team:
Deoxys-Defense / Ninetales / Darmanitan / Starmie / Cresselia / Infernape
the pdc show's team:
Politoed / Dragonite / Tornadus-Therian / Keldeo / Gliscor / Ferrothorn
Battle between drakon136 and the pdc show started!
drakon136 sent out Deoxys-Defense!
the pdc show sent out Tornadus-Therian!
Deoxys-Defense is exerting its pressure!
Turn 1
Fatecrashers joined.
The foe's Tornadus-Therian used U-turn!
It's super effective! Deoxys-Defense lost 19% of its health!
the pdc show called Tornadus-Therian back!
the pdc show sent out Dragonite!
Deoxys-Defense used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
Turn 2
The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Dance!
The foe's Dragonite's Attack rose!
The foe's Dragonite's Speed rose!
Deoxys-Defense used Taunt!
The foe's Dragonite fell for the taunt!
Turn 3
Nurse Valentine joined.
The foe's Dragonite used ExtremeSpeed!
Deoxys-Defense lost 28% of its health!
Deoxys-Defense used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Dragonite was paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
The foe's Dragonite ate its Lum Berry!
The foe's Dragonite was cured of paralysis.
Turn 4
The foe's Dragonite used Outrage!
A critical hit! Deoxys-Defense lost 53% of its health!
Deoxys-Defense fainted!
drakon136 sent out Starmie!
Turn 5
The foe's Dragonite used Outrage!
Starmie lost 100% of its health!
Starmie fainted!
The foe's Dragonite's rampage ended!
The foe's Dragonite became confused!
The foe's Dragonite's taunt wore off!
drakon136: lol
Fatecrashers left.
Mystery joined.
drakon136 sent out Ninetales!
Ninetales's Drought intensified the sun's rays!
Ninetales floats in the air with its Air Balloon!
Turn 6
Pocket joined.
drakon136 called Ninetales back!
drakon136 sent out Infernape!
The foe's Dragonite is confused!
The foe's Dragonite used Outrage!
Infernape lost 100% of its health!
Infernape fainted!
drakon136: ignore this match too
drakon136 sent out Darmanitan!
Turn 7
Pocket: nooo
drakon136: yeeees
Mystery left.
The foe's Dragonite is confused!
It hurt itself in its confusion!
Darmanitan used Rock Slide!
A critical hit! It's super effective! The foe's Dragonite lost 88% of its health!
The foe's Dragonite fainted!
Pocket: xD
drakon136: or not
Pocket: still hope
the pdc show sent out Politoed!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Politoed!
The foe's Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
Turn 8
Pocket: or not
Pocket: :(
drakon136 called Darmanitan back!
drakon136 sent out Cresselia!
The foe's Politoed used Scald!
Cresselia lost 18% of its health!
The foe's Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 9
drakon136: still have 9tales
Cresselia used Light Screen!
Light Screen raised your team's special defense!
The foe's Politoed used Toxic!
Cresselia was badly poisoned!
The foe's Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
Cresselia was hurt by poison!
Turn 10
Pocket: you need something to win the weather war
Pocket: grass-type would help here
drakon136 called Cresselia back!
drakon136 sent out Ninetales!
Ninetales's Drought intensified the sun's rays!
Ninetales floats in the air with its Air Balloon!
the pdc show called Politoed back!
the pdc show sent out Ferrothorn!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Ferrothorn!
The foe's Ferrothorn restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 11
Pocket: or a dragon type
Mystery joined.
the pdc show called Ferrothorn back!
the pdc show sent out Politoed!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Politoed!
The foe's Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
Ninetales used Sunny Day!
The sunlight turned harsh!
The foe's Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 12
drakon136: or that
Pocket: yes
Mystery: lol
Pocket: good
Mystery: lgi
Pocket: + light screen awesome
The foe's Politoed used Protect!
The foe's Politoed protected itself!
Ninetales absorbed light!
Ninetales used SolarBeam!
The foe's Politoed protected itself!
The foe's Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 13
the pdc show called Politoed back!
the pdc show sent out Gliscor!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Gliscor!
Ninetales absorbed light!
Ninetales used SolarBeam!
A critical hit! The foe's Gliscor lost 78% of its health!
The foe's Gliscor's Toxic Orb activated!
The foe's Gliscor was badly poisoned!
Turn 14
drakon136: lol
Mystery: lol
The foe's Gliscor used Protect!
The foe's Gliscor protected itself!
Ninetales used Fire Blast!
The foe's Gliscor protected itself!
The foe's Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
Turn 15
Pocket: yo don't forget darmy
Ninetales used Fire Blast!
The foe's Gliscor lost 22% of its health!
The foe's Gliscor fainted!
The sunlight faded.
the pdc show sent out Politoed!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Politoed!
The foe's Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
Turn 16
drakon136: I know
Mystery: lol
drakon136: (Private to Pocket) I know
drakon136: (Private to Pocket) trying to take out toed
drakon136: (Private to Pocket) toad*
drakon136: hold on
drakon136 called Ninetales back!
drakon136 sent out Cresselia!
The foe's Politoed used Toxic!
Cresselia is already poisoned.
The foe's Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
Cresselia was hurt by poison!
Your team's light screen wore off!
Turn 17
the pdc show called Politoed back!
the pdc show sent out Ferrothorn!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Ferrothorn!
Cresselia used Light Screen!
Light Screen raised your team's special defense!
The foe's Ferrothorn restored HP using its Leftovers!
Cresselia was hurt by poison!
Turn 18
drakon136 called Cresselia back!
drakon136 sent out Darmanitan!
The foe's Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!
Darmanitan was seeded!
Darmanitan's health is sapped by Leech Seed!
Turn 19
drakon136 called Darmanitan back!
drakon136 sent out Cresselia!
the pdc show called Ferrothorn back!
the pdc show sent out Keldeo!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Keldeo!
Cresselia was hurt by poison!
Turn 20
the pdc show called Keldeo back!
the pdc show sent out Ferrothorn!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Ferrothorn!
drakon136 called Cresselia back!
drakon136 sent out Ninetales!
Ninetales's Drought intensified the sun's rays!
Ninetales floats in the air with its Air Balloon!
The foe's Ferrothorn restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 21
drakon136: make up your damn mind
the pdc show called Ferrothorn back!
the pdc show sent out Keldeo!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Keldeo!
Ninetales used Fire Blast!
It's not very effective... The foe's Keldeo lost 42% of its health!
Turn 22
The foe's Keldeo used Secret Sword!
Ninetales lost 33% of its health!
Ninetales's Air Balloon popped!
Ninetales absorbed light!
Ninetales used SolarBeam!
It's super effective! The foe's Keldeo lost 46% of its health!
The foe's Keldeo fainted!
the pdc show sent out Politoed!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Politoed!
The foe's Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
Turn 23
drakon136: and I pray that he's modest
Ninetales used Sunny Day!
The sunlight turned harsh!
The foe's Politoed used Toxic!
Ninetales was badly poisoned!
The foe's Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
Ninetales was hurt by poison!
Turn 24
drakon136: phew
Pocket: more like bold xD
drakon136 called Ninetales back!
drakon136 sent out Darmanitan!
The foe's Politoed used Protect!
But it failed!
The foe's Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
Your team's light screen wore off!
Turn 25
Pocket: yes
Pocket: good
drakon136: neutral*
drakon136: :D
Mystery: oh shit
The foe's Politoed used Protect!
The foe's Politoed protected itself!
Darmanitan used Substitute!
Darmanitan put in a substitute!
Darmanitan lost 25% of its health!
The foe's Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 26
Lucina joined.
Pocket: lol here we go
the pdc show called Politoed back!
the pdc show sent out Tornadus-Therian!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Tornadus-Therian!
Darmanitan used Belly Drum!
Darmanitan lost 50% of its health!
Darmanitan cut its own HP and maximized its Attack!
Darmanitan ate its Salac Berry!
The Salac Berry raised Darmanitan's Speed!
Turn 27
drakon136: BRING IT
Pocket: GG
Mystery: ill laugh so hard
Darmanitan used Fire Punch!
The foe's Tornadus-Therian lost 75% of its health!
The foe's Tornadus-Therian fainted!
The sunlight faded.
Mystery: if he has
Mystery: rocky helmet
Mystery: ferro
drakon136: gg
Pocket: xD
the pdc show sent out Politoed!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Politoed!
The foe's Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
Turn 28
the pdc show called Politoed back!
the pdc show sent out Ferrothorn!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Ferrothorn!
Darmanitan used Rock Slide!
It's not very effective... The foe's Ferrothorn lost 53% of its health!
The foe's Ferrothorn restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 29
LucaroarkZ joined.
Mystery: DAMN
drakon136: lol
Pocket: damn
Darmanitan used Rock Slide!
It's not very effective... The foe's Ferrothorn lost 47% of its health!
The foe's Ferrothorn fainted!
drakon136: gg
the pdc show sent out Politoed!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Politoed!
Turn 30
Pocket: gg
the pdc show: that is the definition of cool shit
Darmanitan used Rock Slide!
The foe's Politoed lost 75% of its health!
The foe's Politoed fainted!
drakon136 won the battle!

drakon136: ty
Mystery left.
Pocket: nice
Lucina left.
Pocket: drakon
LucaroarkZ: don't fuck with darmanitan
the pdc show left.
Pocket: copy and paste this
Pocket: to your thread


drakon136 joined.
reyscarface joined.
Format: OU
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Species Clause
Rule: OHKO Clause
Rule: Evasion Clause
drakon136's team:
Deoxys-Defense / Ninetales / Darmanitan / Starmie / Cresselia / Infernape
reyscarface's team:
Tyranitar / Rotom-Wash / Scizor / Starmie / Jirachi / Landorus
Mystery joined.
Nurse Valentine joined.
Pocket joined.
Mystery: lol
Battle between drakon136 and reyscarface started!
drakon136 sent out Deoxys-Defense!
reyscarface sent out Tyranitar!
Deoxys-Defense is exerting its pressure!
The foe's Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
Turn 1
Pocket: get ready some voltturn shenanigans
Deoxys-Defense used Superpower!
The Fighting Gem strengthened Superpower's power!
It's super effective! The foe's Tyranitar lost 100% of its health!
Deoxys-Defense's Attack fell!
Deoxys-Defense's Defense fell!
The foe's Tyranitar fainted!
The sandstorm rages.
Deoxys-Defense is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Mystery: lol'd
drakon136: :3
Pocket: nice
reyscarface: and you guys said
reyscarface: that set sucks
Pocket: fighting gem
Pocket: lol
Mystery: loool
reyscarface sent out Scizor!
Turn 2
Deoxys-Defense used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
The foe's Scizor used U-turn!
It's super effective! Deoxys-Defense lost 94% of its health!
Deoxys-Defense fainted!
reyscarface called Scizor back!
reyscarface sent out Landorus!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Landorus!
The sandstorm rages.
drakon136 sent out Ninetales!
Ninetales's Drought intensified the sun's rays!
Ninetales floats in the air with its Air Balloon!
Turn 3
The foe's Landorus used Earthquake!
It doesn't affect Ninetales...
Ninetales used Fire Blast!
The foe's Landorus lost 88% of its health!
The foe's Landorus fainted!
drakon136: >_>
Pocket: win the weather war check
reyscarface: wait oops
Mystery: LMAO
Pocket: oops -_-
reyscarface: come on
reyscarface: that text
Mystery: rofl
reyscarface: is tiny as shit
Pocket: re-match
reyscarface: im used to it being in bold
Pocket: same action
Pocket: up till turn 2
Mystery: lol.
reyscarface sent out Rotom-Wash!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Rotom-Wash!
Turn 4
The foe's Rotom-Wash used Pain Split!
The battlers shared their pain!
Ninetales used Will-O-Wisp!
The foe's Rotom-Wash was burned!
The foe's Rotom-Wash restored HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Rotom-Wash was hurt by its burn!
Turn 5
Mystery: lol
reyscarface: god thats slow
reyscarface: what the fuck am i playing
Mystery: lol
reyscarface: i have 0 speed on this rotom
The foe's Rotom-Wash used Volt Switch!
Ninetales lost 37% of its health!
Ninetales's Air Balloon popped!
Pocket: heh
reyscarface called Rotom-Wash back!
reyscarface sent out Jirachi!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Jirachi!
Ninetales absorbed light!
Ninetales used SolarBeam!
It's not very effective... The foe's Jirachi lost 16% of its health!
The foe's Jirachi restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 6
drakon136: I'm using the wrong set
drakon136: I just realized it
Mystery: -speed ninetales
Mystery: rofl
drakon136: no
drakon136: 60 evs
drakon136: so used to DW
Mystery: how are u
The foe's Jirachi used Iron Head!
It's not very effective... Ninetales lost 27% of its health!
Ninetales flinched!
The foe's Jirachi restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 7
Mystery: slower
Mystery: than rotom then
drakon136: I dunno
The foe's Jirachi used Body Slam!
Ninetales lost 26% of its health!
Ninetales fainted!
The foe's Jirachi restored HP using its Leftovers!
Mystery: u have to be running
Mystery: -speed
Mystery: lol
LucaroarkZ joined.
drakon136: nope
drakon136: 60 evs and modest
Mystery: lol
Pocket: 251 spe
Mystery: slow as fuck
drakon136 sent out Infernape!
Turn 8
the pdc show joined.
reyscarface called Jirachi back!
reyscarface sent out Starmie!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Starmie!
Infernape used Fire Blast!
It's not very effective... The foe's Starmie lost 63% of its health!
Infernape lost some of its HP!
The foe's Starmie restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 9
Pocket: rapid spin~
Infernape used Vacuum Wave!
It's not very effective... The foe's Starmie lost 15% of its health!
Infernape lost some of its HP!
The foe's Starmie used Psyshock!
It's super effective! Infernape lost 80% of its health!
Infernape fainted!
The foe's Starmie restored HP using its Leftovers!
Pocket: oh
Pocket: :0
the pdc show left.
drakon136 sent out Cresselia!
Turn 10
The foe's Starmie used Recover!
The foe's Starmie regained health!
Cresselia used Light Screen!
Light Screen raised your team's special defense!
The foe's Starmie restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 11
The foe's Starmie used Rapid Spin!
Cresselia lost 2% of its health!
The pointed stones disappeared from around the foe's team!
Cresselia used Reflect!
Reflect raised your team's defense!
The foe's Starmie restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 12
Pocket: lgi
Mystery: lol
The foe's Starmie used Hydro Pump!
Cresselia lost 6% of its health!
Cresselia used Lunar Dance!
Cresselia fainted!
The foe's Starmie restored HP using its Leftovers!
Mystery: oh
Mystery: shit
drakon136 sent out Darmanitan!
Darmanitan became cloaked in mystical moonlight! (placeholder)
Turn 13
reyscarface: fucking strong man
drakon136: and I pray
reyscarface: yeah should have read balloon
Pocket: probably enough health for hpump
The foe's Starmie used Hydro Pump!
It's super effective! Darmanitan lost 34% of its health!
Darmanitan used Belly Drum!
Darmanitan lost 50% of its health!
Darmanitan cut its own HP and maximized its Attack!
Darmanitan ate its Salac Berry!
The Salac Berry raised Darmanitan's Speed!
The foe's Starmie restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 14
Pocket: yo calc it
drakon136: alrighty
Mystery: it still dies to scizor lol
drakon136: fuck I forgot
Darmanitan used Rock Slide!
The foe's Starmie lost 97% of its health!
The foe's Starmie fainted!
Pocket: -.-
drakon136: oh well
Pocket: should've just subbed
LucaroarkZ: no no
LucaroarkZ: BELLYZARD jk
reyscarface sent out Scizor!
Turn 15
Mystery: gg
Mystery: lol
drakon136: gg
reyscarface: this should kill
drakon136: yeah
drakon136: hold on
Pocket: cross fingers
Mystery: it kills lol
Pocket: oh well :(
The foe's Scizor used Bullet Punch!
It's not very effective... Darmanitan lost 16% of its health!
Darmanitan fainted!
drakon136: yeah I knew it killed
drakon136 sent out Starmie!

Turn 16
drakon136: gg
reyscarface called Scizor back!
reyscarface sent out Jirachi!
Starmie used Hidden Power!
It's super effective! The foe's Jirachi lost 73% of its health!
Starmie lost some of its HP!
The foe's Jirachi restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 17
drakon136: still gonna with this
drakon136: win*
Mystery: oh shit
Starmie used Hidden Power!
It's super effective! The foe's Jirachi lost 30% of its health!
Starmie lost some of its HP!
The foe's Jirachi fainted!
Your team's light screen wore off!
drakon136: I hope lol
Mystery: if u crit rotom u win
Mystery: lol
reyscarface sent out Rotom-Wash!
Turn 18
Starmie used Psyshock!
The foe's Rotom-Wash lost 61% of its health!
Starmie lost some of its HP!
The foe's Rotom-Wash used Volt Switch!
It's super effective! Starmie lost 70% of its health!
Starmie fainted!
reyscarface won the battle!
 

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rejecting this, Darmanitan has no business trying to set up, much less a belly drum. in a metagame infested not only by scarved pokemon, but by priority everywhere (breloom / scizor / etc), youre not pulling this off ever. At most this happens: you get a sub up on a switch, belly drum as your opponent breaks your sub, you kill whatever broke your sub, and then your opponent revenges you with a scarved mon or a scizor (who btw does around 40% iirc to Darmanitan with bullet punch, so... yeah). thats not even taking into account you pretty much have to win the weather war, as rain will nullify your fire punch and sandstorm/hail will kill you eventually before you do any considerable damage.

And if youre building around Darmanitan, both CB and Scarf are good options that will net a lot of kills per game if you play them well, unlike this set. Too frail, too slow, too bad.

QC Rejected (1/3)
 

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From what I've been seeing of this, it worked... Once. That's probably not good enough to justify this set.

Personally, I've never considered Belly Drum on any serious team. I've only ever succeeded with it one time, but the guy I was battling was a complete noob, so I think that explains why my strategy actually worked. Personally, I agree with reyscarface's point that there's too many scarfers and priority in OU for this to work effectively.

Also, while I was watching the battles, I remember seeing scenarios of the opponent weakening Darmanitan to the point that it could not use Belly Drum. Honestly, if I were to use Darmanitan, I'd just do what it does best: Use a Scarf set on a sun team and nuke shit with Sun-boosted Flare Blitzes. Seriously, check this out, Darmanitan vs. Latios in sun:

252 Atk Sheer Force Darmanitan (+Atk) Flare Blitz vs 4 HP/0 Def Latios: 88.41% - 103.97%
Entry hazards damage: 37
After entry hazards: 304 - 351 (100.66% - 116.23%)
Guaranteed OHKO

I'd do a Terrakion calc too, but I think you get the idea. Funny story, a Choice Scarf Darmanitan gets the same Speed boost you get from Salac Berry! If anything, that should discourage you from using this even more.

tl;dr: just use Scarf Darmanitan. The amount of team support required to make Belly Drum work (and even then you'll very rarely pull it off) just isn't worth it when Scarf Darmanitan is better anyway.
 

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yea, as rey and Lucaroark have said, this set needs heavy team support to pull off, and it does not seem to be worth it when darma is already packing enough punch in the sun. In most cases Scarf Darmanitan will net you more kills and sweeps than this Darmy. This set's success also heavily hinges on surprise, which will win you games, but it's not consistent enough warrant its own set on-site. OO mention is as far as this will go.

QC Rejected #2
 
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