I don't see any reason DLE wouldn't claim that if he and realiti are S/S bc the whole point of a scum neighbouriser is to deepwolf and DLE is smart enough to know this helps him with that
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NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5
- Thread starter Duskfall98
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I can believe that suggest isn't a blockable ability tbh
I've read the last few pages but none of it has gone in bc my information processing has decided to leave so I'd still like a tl;dr of claimstate and gamestate
whydon and spiderz are the only two who havent claimed. whydon wont claim and spiderz just probably hasnt been online
You will be voted if you don't sir
Everyone in here is still alive. Given that there's likely only 1 or 2 scum in group A, it's safe to assume that at least 3 of these players are scum. 5/24 scum seems like the lowest it would be, 6/24 the highest (going by 3n+1:n ratio rules which I remember from a while back)
First off, I'll edit the quote to add everybody's claims. Spiderz and Whydon haven't claimed.
Nuxl's slot is being called into question a lot given what happened on N4. Idk what to make of it right now but it seems that in order for all this to happen, without knowing any more information, one of Nuxl or Celever is lying.
Nuxl could be lying because Celever was roleblocked and Clouds died, Celever could be lying because Celever could've found a way to kill Clouds anyway.
Realiti and Shadowpea were both US's suggestions that got removed from the list. This casts a spotlight on all 3 of them. Shadowpea's role is verifiable from Clouds' claim about Celever, and I would imagine it's probably town for reasons Celever brought up (giving Mafia this role lets them get some nice 2 for 1's).
Realiti's role on the other hand I doubt. This is the Witch from Town of Salem with an additional caveat. Given that this role can't win with town in ToS, I'm not sure a role like this would be given to town. Idk though. There is something convenient about this claim... the role wipe. I fully believe Realiti's claim that they redirected DLE to Clouds since I know DLE tried to target Nuxl and iirc Realiti claimed before this became apparent. I don't necessarily believe that this role is town.
UncleSam claiming priority 3 vig is as yet uncc'd. If this does not get cc'd then it's factual. The question would then be, why did Realiti and Shadowpea get removed from this list? Without full info, we don't know.
Conclusion: it's possible they're all town. I think Shadowpea is town, I think Realiti's role is correct but his alignment is shaky, idk about US.
Texas and Ryo are masons. I don't think Haruno/Texas would be T/S from the roles given, so I'm assuming Texas is town. Ryo however is a different story. If Texas is town, then we know Ryo's role is a dead role stealer OR neighbourizer. I'm inclined to believe the former if Texas is town, which I think he is, but dead role stealer to me could be a role on either side.
One more thing I'd like to point out though is that on the off chance Texas is scum, Ryo has 0 evidence that his role was what he said it was. We rely on Texas to confirm the role, and if Texas is scum then we can conclude Ryo is either what he claims to be and town or something else entirely and scum.
Psy... Psy, Psy, Psy... Psythe. Your role is weird and inconvenient. You claim role wiped on N1 and you targeted Hal and Celever. Celever didn't get told he couldn't target Hal any more apparently. If he's to be believed, we have no evidence that your role even existed like this.
I don't know what to make of this, but I would like to point out a possibility. A tiny possibility. A baby possibility.
In all seriousness, we have nothing to verify or doubt this claim, so idk what to make of it.
Vizh. Your role stinks. If you submitted the salad challenge Day 0, why wasn't it announced at the start of Day 1? No host error has been confirmed.
Overall I think Vizh is most likely to be scum in group B.
Whydon how is this ever town behavior
Just claim or we vote tbh, if you are somehow town here and don't wanna throw then there's no role you shouldn't be claiming. Even if you're like info and have no guilties somehow we still need to know what you are and maybe you have a clear or two
- friendly hydra
i don't think much has happened other then speculation + my claim (redirector) + ppl theorizing why i didn't claim role wiped n2, I understand why ppl might be suspicious but I think i have justifiable reasons as to why i didn't mention it.
Isn't Vizh just factually suggest(4) barring a CC? Also we factually know the challenge exists. I think Vizh's claim is the best of the Group B roles you mentioned (outside of mine obv). I could see Ryo's role mechanically being scum here but I just don't see his behavior as scum ever here. Maybe you disagree though? I don't think we should rule anything out but I just don't see scum!Ryo here.
- friendly hydra
Target Whydon = ded maybe
I think it's from ToS, basically anyone who targets them dies, it's an X-shot