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Tournament Balanced Hackmons Redefined Money Tournament ($140) - Won by cityscapes
- Thread starter Chessking345
- Start date
Ricin of the Valley
Banned deucer.
Opponent gave win, proof on my wall.
When it'll be the next round? I ask it because the current one ends in 3 hours.
maybe in 3 hours
Activity Wins:
Awsoke vs Uber45
Concept Everything vs Ricin of the Valley
cramorantics vs Natcrozma
1729is56time vs Maybca☆〜ゝ。∂
Coinflips:
Fun Trading vs Cyril tbh
sapaditore vs MTB
Extensions until Wednesday, September 13th, 11:59 PM GMT -4:
lemonstre1 vs S.T.O.R.M
Sanjay das vs Sylvi
Palapapop vs Ivar57
List of replays for anyone wanting to check out usage: https://pokepast.es/6f38eb850c262d8e
Hiusi guy vs TTTech [G1 G2 G3]
BrainDamageHaver vs Sylvi [ACT]
damflame 3 vs Nihilslave [G1 G2]
quojova vs Sak [G1 G2]
Geneku2 vs Kaif [G1 G2]
pannu vs Ballfire [G1 G2 G3]
MysticalDragon vs Palapapop [G1 G2]
RoFnA vs Awsoke [G1 G2]
cityscapes vs Ricin of the Valley [G1 G2] [DQ]
Natcrozma vs Quantum Tesseract [G1 G2]
lemonstre1 vs Codename C.A.T [GIVE WIN]
LTG vs 1729is56time [ACT]
Chessking345 vs Clas [G1 G2]
choicebadkyurem vs Eelstartega [GIVE WIN]
Fun Trading vs Knight who says "Ni" [G1 G2 G3]
Turtlek vs MTB [FLIP]
Losers
Akashi vs Caionamax [ACT]
rumia vs Zane(Bifloofendoofen) [G1 G2 G3]
Maybca☆〜ゝ。∂ vs augustakira [GIVE WIN]
Despacito87 vs adorluigi [G1 G2]
Tea Guzzler vs horriii [G1] [GIVE WIN]
halaman95 vs The_cursed_noble [FLIP]
Sanjay das vs 31DEATH03 [FLIP]
S.T.O.R.M vs Chazz Princeton [GIVE WIN]
Tanny89k vs Poliwag_PM [ACT]
RegigigasSkyForm vs Concept Everything [FLIP]
okgoogle4 vs AmericanPi [G1 G2]
TheKingsLeap vs Cyril tbh [G1 G2]
NightEdge vs Ivar57 [G1 G2]
yokoisop vs Uber45 [GIVE WIN]
Dragonillis vs cramorantics [ACT]
sapaditore vs Bye 1
Awsoke vs Uber45
Concept Everything vs Ricin of the Valley
cramorantics vs Natcrozma
1729is56time vs Maybca☆〜ゝ。∂
Coinflips:
Fun Trading vs Cyril tbh
sapaditore vs MTB
Extensions until Wednesday, September 13th, 11:59 PM GMT -4:
lemonstre1 vs S.T.O.R.M
Sanjay das vs Sylvi
Palapapop vs Ivar57
List of replays for anyone wanting to check out usage: https://pokepast.es/6f38eb850c262d8e
Balanced Hackmons Redefined Money Tour - Round 2
WinnersHiusi guy vs TTTech [G1 G2 G3]
BrainDamageHaver vs Sylvi [ACT]
damflame 3 vs Nihilslave [G1 G2]
quojova vs Sak [G1 G2]
Geneku2 vs Kaif [G1 G2]
pannu vs Ballfire [G1 G2 G3]
MysticalDragon vs Palapapop [G1 G2]
RoFnA vs Awsoke [G1 G2]
cityscapes vs Ricin of the Valley [G1 G2] [DQ]
Natcrozma vs Quantum Tesseract [G1 G2]
lemonstre1 vs Codename C.A.T [GIVE WIN]
LTG vs 1729is56time [ACT]
Chessking345 vs Clas [G1 G2]
choicebadkyurem vs Eelstartega [GIVE WIN]
Fun Trading vs Knight who says "Ni" [G1 G2 G3]
Turtlek vs MTB [FLIP]
Losers
Akashi vs Caionamax [ACT]
rumia vs Zane(Bifloofendoofen) [G1 G2 G3]
Maybca☆〜ゝ。∂ vs augustakira [GIVE WIN]
Despacito87 vs adorluigi [G1 G2]
Tea Guzzler vs horriii [G1] [GIVE WIN]
halaman95 vs The_cursed_noble [FLIP]
Sanjay das vs 31DEATH03 [FLIP]
S.T.O.R.M vs Chazz Princeton [GIVE WIN]
Tanny89k vs Poliwag_PM [ACT]
RegigigasSkyForm vs Concept Everything [FLIP]
okgoogle4 vs AmericanPi [G1 G2]
TheKingsLeap vs Cyril tbh [G1 G2]
NightEdge vs Ivar57 [G1 G2]
yokoisop vs Uber45 [GIVE WIN]
Dragonillis vs cramorantics [ACT]
sapaditore vs Bye 1
Deadline for this round is Sunday, September 17th, 11:59 PM GMT-4
Reminder to SAVE your replays
Reminder to SAVE your replays
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We will play wenesday at 7pm +7 so 2pm +2
Ricin of the Valley is an alternate account of a banned user; this round is a win for city.
won ggs just kidding i lost and bent the universe to my favor in order to advance in tour
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9balancedhackmons-1942041729-mxy1yoicu323p3m4c5uulz9a01r8wxwpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9balancedhackmons-1942053924-i94vjv5nw56ounpcy0mxs4q3rsd2bywpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9balancedhackmons-1942041729-mxy1yoicu323p3m4c5uulz9a01r8wxwpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9balancedhackmons-1942053924-i94vjv5nw56ounpcy0mxs4q3rsd2bywpw
Finally, after 2 days of work, I got the data for the first round. Don't expect me to post Winrate, it took me like 8 hours to get the usage data right. I'm also grouping for species because we know the usage of certain god got altered due to species clause.
Btw, NO, putting Metagross and Salamence without -Mega was not a mistake from my part, but from the player's part who clearly wasn't taking the tournament seriously considering he also bringed on Ice Arceus. It was exhausting to say the least, but fun oddly enough.
See what you do with this data. I'll see you later.
PS: I was a big idiot. It was easier than expected, although the site doesn't tell mega or not mega. Also some edits to include the new round 1 data.
| Image | Pokémon | Uses (After delay) | % of teams | % of the pokémon | % after delay |
|---|---|---|---|---|
 | Arceus | 89 (96) | 85.58% | 84.21% |
| Arceus-Fairy Arceus-Ghost Arceus-Poison Arceus-Ground Arceus-Fire Arceus-Water Arceus-Dark Arceus-Fire Arceus-Ice | 22 (25) 19 (21) 16 12 9 8 (9) 1 1 1 | 21.15% | 24.72% 18.27% | 21.35% 15.38% | 17.98% 11.54% | 13.48% 8.654% | 10.11% 7.692% | 8.989% 0.962% | 1.124% 0.962% | 1.124% 0.962% | 1.124% | 21.93% | 26.04% 18.42% | 21.88% 14.04% | 16.67% 10.53% | 12.50% 7.895% | 9.375% 7.895% | 9.375% 0.877% | 1.042% 0.877% | 1.042% 0.877% | 1.042% |
 | Chansey | 67 (72) | 64.42% | 63.16% |
 | Mewtwo | 54 (56) | 51.92% | 49.12% |
| Mewtwo-Mega-X Mewtwo | 53 (55) 1 | 50.96% | 98.15% 0.962% | 1.852% | 48.25% | 98.21% 0.877% | 1.786% |
 | Kyogre | 43 (47) | 41.35% | 41.23% |
| Kyogre-Primal Kyogre | 42 (46) 1 | 40.38% | 97.67% 0.962% | 2.326% | 40.35% | 97.87% 0.877% | 2.128% |
 | Steelix-Mega | 37 (38) | 35.58% | 33.33% |
 | Miraidon | 29 (32) | 27.88% | 28.07% |
 | Diancie-Mega | 26 (31) | 25.00% | 27.19% |
 | Yveltal | 23 (25) | 22.12% | 21.93% |
 | Kartana | 18 (20) | 17.31% | 17.54% |
 | Ho-oh | 17 (18) | 16.35% | 15.78% |
 | Giratina | 12 (16) | 11.54% | 14.04% |
| Giratina-Altered Giratina-Origin | 11 (15) 1 | 10.58% | 91.67% 0.962% | 8.333% | 13.16% | 93.75% 0.877% | 6.250% |
 | Zacian | 12 (13) | 11.54% | 11.40% |
 | Pheromosa | 12 | 11.54% | 10.53% |
 | Dialga-Origin | 11 (12) | 10.58% | 10.53% |
 | Flutter Mane | 10 (11) | 9.615% | 9.649% |
 | Audino-Mega | 10 | 9.615% | 8.772% |
 | Eternatus | 10 | 9.615% | 8.772% |
 | Ting-Lu | 10 | 9.615% | 8.772% |
 | Groudon | 9 | 8.654% | 7.895% |
 | Lunala | 9 | 8.654% | 7.895% |
 | Kyurem | 6 (8) | 5.769% | 7.018% |
| Kyurem-Black Kyurem-White | 4 (5) 2 (3) | 3.846% | 66.67% 1.923% | 33.33% | 4.386% | 62.50% 2.632% | 37.50% |
 | Deoxys | 6 (7) | 5.679% | 6.140% |
| Deoxys-Normal Deoxys-Speed | 5 (6) 1 0 | 4.808% | 83.33% 0.962% | 16.67% 0.000% | 0.000% | 5.263% | 85.71% 0.877% | 14.29% |
 | Greninja-Ash | 6 (7) | 5.769% | 6.140% |
 | Registeel | 6 | 5.769% | 5.263% |
 | Blissey | 5 | 4.808% | 4.386% |
 | Gyarados-Mega | 5 | 4.808% | 4.386% |
 | Ferrothorn | 4 (6) | 3.846% | 5.263% |
 | Dondozo | 4 | 3.846% | 3.509% |
 | Solgaleo | 4 | 3.846% | 3.509% |
 | Swampert-Mega | 3 (5) | 2.885% | 4.386% |
 | Urshifu | 3 (4) | 2.885% | 3.509% |
| Urshifu-Single-Strike Urshifu-Rapid-Strike | 2 1 (2) | 1.923% | 66.67% 0.962% | 33.33% | 1.754% | 50.00% 1.754% | 50.00% |
 | Dragapult | 3 | 2.885% | 2.632% |
 | Iron Valiant | 3 | 2.885% | 2.632% |
 | Victini | 3 | 2.885% | 2.632% |
 | Zekrom | 3 | 2.885% | 2.632% |
 | Celesteela | 2 (4) | 1.923% | 3.509% |
 | Aerodactyl-Mega | 2 (3) | 1.923% | 2.632% |
 | Necrozma | 2 (3) | 1.923% | 2.632% |
| Necrozma-Ultra Necrozma-Dawn-Wings | 2 0 (1) | 1.923% | 100.0% 0.000% | 0.000% | 1.754% | 66.67% 0.877% | 33.33% |
 | Regieleki | 2 (3) | 1.923% | 2.632% |
 | Abomasnow-Mega | 2 | 1.923% | 1.754% |
 | Aggron-Mega | 2 | 1.923% | 1.754% |
 | Alakazam-Mega | 2 | 1.923% | 1.754% |
 | Gardevoir | 2 | 1.923% | 1.754% |
| Gardevoir-Mega Gardevoir | 1 1 | 0.962% | 50.00% 0.962% | 50.00% | 0.877% | 50.00% 0.877% | 50.00% |
 | Koraidon | 2 | 1.923% | 1.754% |
 | Latias-Mega | 2 | 1.923% | 1.754% |
 | Muk-Alola | 2 | 1.923% | 1.754% |
 | Rayquaza | 2 | 1.923% | 1.754% |
 | Revavroom | 2 | 1.923% | 1.754% |
 | Scizor-Mega | 2 | 1.923% | 1.754% |
 | Chien-Pao | 1 (2) | 0.962% | 1.754% |
 | Palkia | 1 (2) | 0.962% | 1.754% |
| Palkia-Origin Palkia | 1 0 (1) | 0.962% | 100.0% 0.000% | 0.000% | 0.877% | 50.00% 0.877% | 50.00% |
 | Shuckle | 1 (2) | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Beedrill-Mega | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Bellibolt | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Blacephalon | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Calyrex-Ice | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Cetitan | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Garchomp-Mega | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Heracross-Mega | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Hoopa-Unbound | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Iron Bundle | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Iron Moth | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Iron Treads | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Landorus-Therian | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Magearna | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Melmetal | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Metagross | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Mew | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Regirock | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Salamence | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Slowbro-Mega | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Spectrier | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Tyranitar-Mega | 1 | 0.962% | 0.877% |
 | Ampharos-Mega | 0 (1) | 0.000% | 0.877% |
 | Gholdengo | 0 (1) | 0.000% | 0.877% |
 | Tapu Fini | 0 (1) | 0.000% | 0.877% |
| Total | 624 ( | 600.0% |
Btw, NO, putting Metagross and Salamence without -Mega was not a mistake from my part, but from the player's part who clearly wasn't taking the tournament seriously considering he also bringed on Ice Arceus. It was exhausting to say the least, but fun oddly enough.
See what you do with this data. I'll see you later.
PS: I was a big idiot. It was easier than expected, although the site doesn't tell mega or not mega. Also some edits to include the new round 1 data.
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we appear to have made the same mistake (i did this back when aaa ran a money tour), but this website (https://replaystats-eo.herokuapp.com/) can do usage stats / win rates from either replay URLs or just a range of posts, meaning there's no need to manually calc usage stats.Finally, after 2 days of work, I got the data for the first round. Don't expect me to post Winrate, it took me like 8 hours to get the usage data right. I'm also grouping for species because we know the usage of certain god got altered due to species clause.
Pokémon Uses % of teams | % of said pokémon
Arceus-Ghost
Arceus-Poison
Arceus-Ground
Arceus-Fire
Arceus-Water
Arceus-Dark
Arceus-Fire
Arceus-Ice
18
16
12
9
8
1
1
1
17.31% | 20.22%
15.38% | 17.98%
11.54% | 13.48%
8.654% | 10.11%
7.692% | 8.989%
0.962% | 1.124%
0.962% | 1.124%
0.962% | 1.124%
Mewtwo
1
0.962% | 1.818%
Kyogre
1
0.962% | 2.326%
Giratina-Origin
1
0.962% | 7.692%
Deoxys-Speed
1
0.962% | 16.67%
Kyurem-White
2
1.923% | 33.33%
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
1
0.962% | 33.33%
Gardevoir
1
0.962% | 50.00%
Btw, NO, putting Metagross and Salamence without -Mega was not a mistake from my part, but from the player's part who clearly wasn't taking the tournament seriously considering he also forgot bringed on Ice Arceus. It was exhausting to say the least, but fun oddly enough.
See what you do with this data. I'll see you later.
Thank you so much, Sir? Miss? Tea Guzzler. I definitely use the site I now have, although I might need to do some sort of filter if I want to put it in the format I did of grouped by species (There's that weird case of using non-megas by accident or with a clear purpose). Still, 1 hour of work is much shorter than 10. Also, I fixed some errors I made here and there.
PS: Some data I was able to see due to the link.
- Chansey is by far the most common lead (37.31% were leads), and wins way too much (72%/18 out of 25). That's honestly a worrisome number.
- Other quite common lead choices include Pheromosa (50%), Lunala (44.44%), Kartana (33.33%), Ting-Lu (30%), Eternatus (30%), Steelix-Mega (21.62%) and oddly enough the 2 M-Alakazam used were leads
- The popular pokémon who was used as lead the least is Arceus-Ghost with literal 0 leads.
- Other cases of unpopular leads are Poison and Ground Arceus, Ho-oh, Primal Kyogre, Groudon, Mewtwo-Mega-X, Ground-Arceus, Diancie, Audino, Zacian. Most of the cases are specific checks to X so makes sense they're not good as leads.
- Apparently I was the only dumbass who used on the lead slot Arceus-Ground. I won but it was not a good idea to lead with that over Yveltal in hindsight.
- Other cases of unpopular leads are Poison and Ground Arceus, Ho-oh, Primal Kyogre, Groudon, Mewtwo-Mega-X, Ground-Arceus, Diancie, Audino, Zacian. Most of the cases are specific checks to X so makes sense they're not good as leads.
- The players seem quite bad at dealing with Pheromosa, Ho-Oh, Yveltal, Miraidon, Mega-Steelix and Primal Kyogre. All of them are either immune to ground moves, can trap you or are pivots, which makes me believe it's because inexperienced players are struggling to read switches properly or trapping in the case of Miraidon.
- On the other side of the coin, Flutter Mane, Groudon, Lunala, Kartana, Dondozo, Blissey and Deoxys have quite poor performances. If I had to guess it's because people is not good at playing frail pokémon without pivot or setup sweepers, nor are good at using passive pokémon.
- The most popular core who doesn't involve Chansey or Mewtwo is Kyogre/M-Steelix. Makes total sense, they're 3° and 4° in usage and have tons of defensive synergy. M-Steelix/Yveltal is also quite popular for similar reasons. Also, every single Pheromosa had a mewtwo to help it on the offense, Arceus-Ground loves Miraidon (I suppose the former is ice scales and the latter is fur coat) and all but 1 Arceus-Poison paired up with Chansey.
- Sets are mostly what you see on ladder, aka unpredictable but expectable. Mewtwo is just a wild card but most pokémon are oddly expected on its role, specially Steelix-Mega.
- I can definitely see my weird sets there. I was the only who order Mewtwo to use Victory Dance and recover, Origin Pulse on Kyogre, Steam Eruption and Dragon energy on Miraidon, Will-o-wisp and Roost on Yveltal, Recover on Arceus-Ground, Thunder Cage and Recover on Eternatus and Astral Barrage on Lunala.
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Isn't Deoxys-Attack supposed to be banned in round 1?
+contacted
I have a somewhat selfish question to you. When you publish the results of round 1, can you please split the replay lists between losers and winners? Because I feel we can get a lot of meaningful info from the differences in usage between players of allegedly different skill levels.
Won gg
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9balancedhackmons-1943206131-ey50rftsym2nxmfebiqv8ut7dxyxkzjpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9balancedhackmons-1943225004-4czj6r4pw4rvmrg7yg9r4y9hsck72gypw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9balancedhackmons-1943245448-xrs3onh85itmb74vhdou2d4e3ch325lpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9balancedhackmons-1943206131-ey50rftsym2nxmfebiqv8ut7dxyxkzjpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9balancedhackmons-1943225004-4czj6r4pw4rvmrg7yg9r4y9hsck72gypw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9balancedhackmons-1943245448-xrs3onh85itmb74vhdou2d4e3ch325lpw
My opponent is disconnected... AGAIN. Can I pass to round 3 winners if he decides to not battle me?
PS: Very obnoxious news. My opponent decided to concede me the win. I wanted to battle but it was just not possible to do it because he was never connected when we said it would be the match.
PS: Very obnoxious news. My opponent decided to concede me the win. I wanted to battle but it was just not possible to do it because he was never connected when we said it would be the match.
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