[5:27 PM] plus: apprentice rounds v. our current system
[5:28 PM] plus: what's the plan
[5:28 PM] plus: do you want to keep this system
[5:28 PM] plus: or should we go back
[5:28 PM] Ad Aciem: I like the current system
[5:28 PM] Eyan: I like the current system but there's a main issue imo
[5:28 PM] obii: i feel like rounds are more structured but the queue system is more kind to tutors
[5:28 PM] Coconut: I very much dislike this new system
[5:28 PM] Coconut: someone else can go first
[5:28 PM] Sken: the new system is great
[5:28 PM] Californium: new system proves people are lazy
[5:28 PM] Californium: and we actually lack OU tutors
[5:28 PM] TraceofLife: i liked the new system more
[5:28 PM] Ad Aciem: The round system is very dependent on schedules and timezones
[5:29 PM] Californium: new system is better for tutor availability
[5:29 PM] Californium: and pairings essentially
[5:29 PM] Coconut: the new system went has given us 3 LC tutees, which leaves a lot of us doing nothing instead of people pming a b101 mod and getting LC later in the round
[5:29 PM] Eyan: I don't like leaving such a larger number of people at the back waiting to be tutored, granted that's mostly the tutors lacking initiative which can't be helped. It's also annoying because people don't actually check the forums much making pairings with tiers that aren't in demand
[5:29 PM] Coconut: there's only like 3 active LC tutors anyway
[5:30 PM] obii: yeah agreed w what eyan said
[5:30 PM] starry: hi i'm here
[5:30 PM] starry: what have i missed
[5:30 PM] Coconut: but that's besides the point
[5:30 PM] Eyan: Like it's nice when someone happens to look at b101 forum and sign up
[5:30 PM] Sken: there are no active tutors
[5:30 PM] Sken: lol
[5:30 PM] obii: w the rounds the tutors dont need to make initiative most of the time
[5:30 PM] Sken: i mean for lc
[5:30 PM] Eyan: But outside of the initial wave of sign ups
[5:30 PM] Coconut: melon, you and me
[5:30 PM] Eyan: Getting a tutee is hard
[5:30 PM] Sken: unless you let people like goao
[5:30 PM] Sken: lol
[5:30 PM] plus: nah i banned goao from b101 till 2017
[5:30 PM] plus: and that's if he shapes up
[5:30 PM] Sken: yeah ik
[5:30 PM] starry: i like the new system more than the old one
[5:30 PM] starry: even though i haven't used it
[5:30 PM] starry: it's just a better idea
[5:31 PM] starry: the old rigid format was tough for people like me with unpredictable schedules
[5:31 PM] starry: whereas with this one, i can pop in and grab a tutee when things calm down
[5:31 PM] obii: i think the rounds are better for the tutees while this one is better for tutors
[5:31 PM] IronBullet: every single tutor under the new system so far has gotten A and great feedback
[5:31 PM] IronBullet: which makes sense since the tutors who are taking initiative are the ones who truly care
[5:31 PM] plus: i think the biggest criticism of the new system is that lesser represented tiers like LC don't get as much burn as they used to?
[5:32 PM] Coconut: Absolutely
[5:32 PM] IronBullet: main issue is lack of ou tutors really i think
[5:32 PM] plus: i think that's something we could potentially fix if we added a few kinks here and there
[5:32 PM] plus: and yeah seriously
[5:32 PM] Coconut: we have even less LC tutees and less OU tutors
[5:32 PM] plus: ou tutoring is pathetic lmao
[5:32 PM] Sken: I haven't really noticed anything
[5:32 PM] Eyan: On the other hand, our uu tutors are kinda going nuts in numbers
[5:32 PM] Coconut: that's cause you haven't done anything nerd
[5:32 PM] Eyan: I have fault in that lol
[5:32 PM] Sken: basically there are 3 people tutoring lc
[5:33 PM] Sken: so we don't really want more tutees to be waiting
[5:33 PM] starry: ou tutoring has zero push
[5:33 PM] Coconut: but literally no one can sign up to be tutor'd in LC.
[5:33 PM] starry: there is nobody mentioning it
[5:33 PM] Eyan: Sken tutor me
[5:33 PM] starry: in OU communities
[5:33 PM] Coconut: at the current moment
[5:33 PM] Eyan: Coco sucked
[5:33 PM] obii: tbh i think it also has to do w oras ou kind of coming to an end, a lot of people are bored / tired w it so maybe for SuMo ou it'll be more active
[5:33 PM] Coconut: wow fuck you eyan
[5:33 PM] Sken: the old system forced people to do like
[5:33 PM] Sken: "oh there is an lc spot left i'll take that one"
[5:33 PM] Coconut: I like the new system, but the lack of LC tutees really hurts the system for me
[5:33 PM] Sken: with this one you only get people who want to learn your tier
[5:34 PM] starry:
Plus from the outside in, ou tutoring looks pretty bad because half the people signing up have 1 day old accounts
[5:34 PM] Coconut: and I got a lot of really cool people whose first choice wasn't LC
[5:34 PM] starry: look at the americas signup thread
[5:34 PM] plus: yeah honestly
[5:34 PM] Californium: still debating doing an OU round
[5:34 PM] plus: i think that's an issue that's only really prevalent with OU
[5:34 PM] Californium: even though I dont main it
[5:34 PM] starry: and OU is the biggest and main tier
[5:34 PM] starry: so that should seriously be addressed
[5:34 PM] Eyan: The biggest plus (no pun intented) with the old system was just being more open to secondary choices in tiers, as well as generally having an easier time getting pairs made with the announcement and schedule bring available
[5:34 PM] plus: i wouldn't be against to putting some kind of limitation to ou signups
[5:35 PM] Californium: OU is the most
[5:35 PM] starry: with stricter rules against young accounts
[5:35 PM] Californium: common tier
[5:35 PM] starry: and more moderation on those posts
[5:35 PM] starry: like half those OU signups could be deleted easily
[5:35 PM] Coconut: I think limitations to young accounts in general
[5:35 PM] Coconut: would be a good idea
[5:35 PM] starry: with a message sent to them giving them a bunch of resources to get into things before they get b101 tutor
[5:35 PM] starry: tutoring*
[5:35 PM] Coconut: cause these people might just fall off the face of the earth
[5:35 PM] Californium: what if your tutee is actually bloo
[5:35 PM] Coconut: 1 hour after that post
[5:35 PM] Californium: what do you do then
[5:35 PM] Eyan: Btw plus there was this one guy with 2 posts that originally wanted to sign up for UU, did he delete it himself or did someone delete it
[5:35 PM] starry: b101 should NOT be for beginners because nothing will get done. i know from experience
[5:35 PM] starry: tutoring beginners does nothing
[5:36 PM] Ad Aciem: i mean part of the requirements for signing up
[5:36 PM] plus: idr eyan, bring it up to me via pm later
[5:36 PM] Eyan: Brb I'm gonna get on my comp
[5:36 PM] Californium: yea agree
[5:36 PM] Sken: yeah
[5:36 PM] obii: yea agreed w starry, half the things they dont know is something they can learn by just reading
[5:36 PM] Ad Aciem: Is knowing basic mechanics
[5:36 PM] Sken: they just don't know mons in general
[5:36 PM] Californium: having a small background to competitive
[5:36 PM] Californium: even if its just
[5:36 PM] obii: dont need a tutor for that
[5:36 PM] Californium: laddering casually
[5:36 PM] Californium: is massive
[5:36 PM] Eyan: There's a thread that's literally all about competitive battling basics
[5:36 PM] Californium: compared to a complete beginner to pkmn
[5:36 PM] Eyan: Which is a good read for beginners
[5:36 PM] starry: i think we can seriously improve the resources in the b101 forum as well
[5:37 PM] Coconut: or maybe having tutors that just tutor in Battling Basics
[5:37 PM] plus: let's hold off on that topic for now starry
[5:37 PM] starry: oke
[5:37 PM] plus: we're gonna discuss that soon
[5:37 PM] starry: gotcha
[5:37 PM] TraceofLife: having tutor for battling basics might actually be a good idea
[5:37 PM] plus: i think from what people have said, more people actually like the new system rather than the old
[5:37 PM] Sken: yeah i like that
[5:37 PM] plus: but if we were to make changes to the new system
[5:37 PM] plus: that could potentially address these concerns
[5:37 PM] plus: then that would be great
[5:37 PM] Coconut: Agreed
[5:38 PM] Empo: agree with starry, sorry if a bit late
[5:38 PM] Coconut: like basically leave LC tutoring open all the time.
[5:38 PM] plus: i think one of them is definitely limiting the OU signup base by imposing some kind of competitive restriction
[5:38 PM] starry: i seriously think deleting signup posts that really shouldn't exist (like i mentioned before) could be a good start to cleaning up things
[5:38 PM] Californium: issue is tutors not taking initiative
[5:38 PM] IronBullet: yeah agree with that
[5:38 PM] Empo: y
[5:38 PM] Californium: and posting in the apply for a tutee thread
[5:38 PM] starry: like
Plus if b101 mods delete half of those and send an "automated" message to the people, we could really clean that up
[5:38 PM] Californium: or we have so many inactive tutors
[5:38 PM] starry: there's a reason OU tutors aren't taking as much initiative though
[5:39 PM] starry: for me personally i'm just busy lately and waiting for su/mo
[5:39 PM] Coconut: when your player pool looks like that
[5:39 PM] starry: i'll jump right back in then
[5:39 PM] Coconut: I wouldn't really want to either
[5:39 PM] Coconut: tbf
[5:39 PM] plus: i can't make ou tutors want to tutor
[5:39 PM] plus: but i can delete sign up posts
[5:39 PM] starry: every one of my tutees cept 1 have been people who requested me
[5:39 PM] plus: to accommodate for our lack
[5:39 PM] Coconut: getting handed a tutee with 2 posts doesn't sound great
[5:39 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: the thing is happening now right
[5:39 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: sorry i jus got here oo
[5:39 PM] Eyan: it took me way too long to read your name
[5:39 PM] Coconut: go to bed
[5:40 PM] Eyan: you first
[5:40 PM] Coconut: fair
[5:40 PM] starry: wow speaking of shit tutees false haven't you had like 6 tutees that were just dead or something
[5:40 PM] Ad Aciem: or like make it so they have to have had an account for a certain amount of time
[5:40 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: no jke
[5:40 PM] p2: new user tutees arent fun to deal with because i think they seem to get the idea that tutoring will make them good at the game instantly when its not for that
[5:40 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: 70% of my tutees so far
[5:40 PM] p2: also
[5:40 PM] Eyan: I've been kinda lucky because when I hit a roadblock with tutees I manage to pick them up again
[5:40 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: ive dropped
[5:40 PM] starry: yeah see
[5:40 PM] Eyan: I haven't gotten a tutee that I straight up couldn't handle just yet
[5:40 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: either through being dead
[5:40 PM] starry: tutoring new people is honestly pointless in OU
[5:40 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: or because they were literally impossible to tutor
[5:40 PM] starry: like brand spanking new people
[5:40 PM] plus: i have an idea
[5:41 PM] p2: ive had like 5 tutees in a row that were really inactive and didnt really give a shit despite me constantly bugging them
[5:41 PM] Eyan: Although it's probably dominant in OU
[5:41 PM] Californium: OU is the easiest tier
[5:41 PM] Californium: to teach new people?
[5:41 PM] p2: but i tutor rby once and i get a really great dude
[5:41 PM] plus: what if we had tournaments for OU
[5:41 PM] Californium: bring back
[5:41 PM] starry: it's the easiest tier because we have so much information and shit
[5:41 PM] Eyan: it's the first tier people look to get into
[5:41 PM] Californium: those ou tours
[5:41 PM] plus: and only people who place high enough in these tournaments
[5:41 PM] plus: can sign up
[5:41 PM] Californium: like the tutee round tours
[5:41 PM] plus: lol
[5:47 PM] Coconut: a lot better
[5:47 PM] obii: any thoughts on having them include in their sign up post their level of experience / what they expect to learn
[5:47 PM] IronBullet: yeah exactly that obii
[5:47 PM] Eyan: Basically
[5:47 PM] obii: yea thats what i was thinking ib
[5:47 PM] plus: okay
[5:47 PM] Californium: on the flipslip
[5:47 PM] plus: that should be on the b101 mods to lay down the hammer then
[5:47 PM] Californium: why the hell are people on spl level
[5:47 PM] Californium: signing up
[5:47 PM] obii: if their post doesnt fulfill some requirement, we just send them the resources
[5:47 PM] Eyan: I always start out my tutoring with questions on their experience with the tier and competitive battling in general
[5:47 PM] Californium: that itself is a redundancy
[5:47 PM] Eyan: for that sort of reason to gauge
[5:47 PM] Eyan: it's really helpful in planning ngl
[5:47 PM] Coconut: so do I
Eyan
[5:47 PM] Coconut: but
[5:47 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: yeah but the problem is that doesnt stop people from being bad
[5:47 PM] obii: cus b101 is a great resource to learn a new tier californium
[5:47 PM] starry: ya same
[5:47 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: some ppl be playing for 3 years
[5:47 PM] Eyan: I know Coco, you did that with me
[5:47 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: and still dont know how to play
[5:47 PM] Coconut: I think it would be easier if it filtered
[5:48 PM] obii: i remember zamrock signing up for b101 to learn building from abr
[5:48 PM] Coconut: beforehand
[5:48 PM] Californium: yeah but it felt v awkward obii
[5:48 PM] obii: not a bad thing particularly
[5:48 PM] starry: was probably just so he didn't get his badge taken lol
[5:48 PM] Coconut: I don't see the big deal about that
[5:48 PM] Californium: tutoring someone who is at or potentially above
[5:48 PM] Californium: my level
[5:48 PM] starry: or to learn like a more specific thing
[5:48 PM] Coconut: if they think they could benefit from the program
[5:48 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: is it even possible to tutor someone better than u?
[5:48 PM] Coconut: who cares
[5:48 PM] obii: feeling awkward isnt rly a big deal tho
[5:48 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: 'u should try this'
'no ur wrong'
[5:48 PM] obii: lol
[5:48 PM] obii: LOL
[5:48 PM] Eyan: I have tutored people that I found to be about my level or higher even
[5:48 PM] starry: i was about to have tdk tutor me a few months ago with building so i could learn a different perspective on things
[5:49 PM] plus: can we go back to the issue with tiers like uu or lc
[5:49 PM] plus: that have a ton of tutors
[5:49 PM] plus: but nobody signing up
[5:49 PM] Californium: fucking ubers
[5:49 PM] Eyan: UU is insane
[5:49 PM] Coconut: LC has a ton of inactive tutors
[5:49 PM] Eyan: like a lot of new tutors
[5:49 PM] plus: the abr zamrock thing is the least of my concerns and i can deal with that myself
[5:49 PM] Eyan: that are actually active
[5:49 PM] Coconut: and the signups are closed
[5:49 PM] Sken: again lc doesn't have a ton of tutors
[5:49 PM] plus: yes
[5:49 PM] plus: 'fucking ubers'
[5:49 PM] Californium: Ubers is worse
[5:49 PM] Sken: at least
[5:49 PM] Californium: than LC and UU
[5:49 PM] Eyan: Most of them are people I know so they are actually interested
[5:49 PM] Sken: active ones
[5:49 PM] Californium: LOL
[5:49 PM] Coconut: ok let's tackle ubers first then
[5:49 PM] Eyan: and they've been pretty eager to get someone afaik
[5:49 PM] Californium: this is coming from me
[5:49 PM] Californium: ahhh
[5:50 PM] starry: force UU LC and Ubers players to learn SM OU for the influx of people signing up for that
[5:50 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: i mean what are u supposed to do? are you talking about ways to potentially drum up interest?
[5:50 PM] starry: :^)
[5:50 PM] starry: eyan sorry u gotta play ou now
[5:50 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: i dont think youll be able to get people to sign up for tiers they dont want to learn
[5:50 PM] Californium: I can play and teach OU
[5:50 PM] Californium: Im just not fond of the tier
[5:50 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: and idk how else ur gonna make numbers
[5:50 PM] Eyan: starry remind me to bring whimsicott against you
[5:50 PM] Coconut: fuck that
[5:50 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: ppl only want what they want
[5:50 PM] starry: lmao
[5:50 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: esp since b101 is a pretty small thing anyway
[5:50 PM] obii: i guess ppl who signed up for ou and are waiting in the queue, if they dont get an ou tutor immediately you can say they have an option to sign up for an alternative tier and list whats available?
[5:50 PM] plus: would it be reasonable to just have threads for each tier
[5:50 PM] obii: kinda works like the old system where
[5:50 PM] plus: instead of just 3
[5:50 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: like i didnt even know b101 existed for the longest time
[5:50 PM] plus: per time zone
[5:50 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: its not rly that well known
[5:50 PM] obii: "X is available"
[5:51 PM] Californium: OU / Ubers / RU / NU / PU / Doubles / LC / Old Gens
[5:51 PM] starry: that sounds good to me tbh
Plus
[5:51 PM] obii: i think threads per tier might be a good idea
[5:51 PM] Californium: as threads?
[5:51 PM] plus: yes
[5:51 PM] Coconut: I like that idea
[5:51 PM] plus: threads per tier
[5:51 PM] plus: instead of threads per time zone
[5:51 PM] TraceofLife: i like that idea
[5:51 PM] Californium: yes
[5:51 PM] plus: maybe that's a better way to divide it
[5:51 PM] Coconut: in that case
[5:51 PM] Californium: then keep the timezones in apply for a tutee
[5:51 PM] starry: just let tutors pick the tutee from the thread
[5:51 PM] Coconut: can we pick tutees in our timezone
[5:51 PM] plus: yes californium
[5:51 PM] Californium: then just let tutees sign up whenever
[5:51 PM] plus: like that
[5:51 PM] plus: ya
[5:51 PM] Californium: sounds good
[5:51 PM] starry: i'd probably just pick some random guy with like more than 40 posts in my timezone
[5:52 PM] Californium: instead of just confing threads to whenever a tutor is available
[5:52 PM] Coconut: that clears the issue of people with 0 posts
[5:52 PM] Californium: confining*
[5:52 PM] Coconut: and might gives lower tiers an influx in tutees
[5:52 PM] Ad Aciem: whats to stop tutors from ignoring tutees they dont think are good
[5:53 PM] starry: nothing
[5:53 PM] Ad Aciem: Wouldnt this create implicit bias
[5:53 PM] starry: we're providing the service though so who cares
[5:53 PM] obii: but then theyre an inactive tutor
[5:53 PM] Coconut: well for OU I can see that being an issue
[5:53 PM] starry: hate to have that attitude but
[5:53 PM] starry: cmon
[5:53 PM] plus: tutors dont pick who they teach
[5:53 PM] plus: i do
[5:53 PM] Coconut: but for something like LC, that wouldn't be an issue
[5:53 PM] starry: no we're saying if u let us pick
Plus
[5:53 PM] plus: why would i let you tho
[5:53 PM] starry: it's easier for us to make sure we get someone in our timezone and stuff with the open signups :p
[5:54 PM] starry: you already let us tutor people who request us
[5:54 PM] plus: yea
[5:54 PM] starry: i don't rly see the difference personally
[5:54 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: i mean whats stopping u from doing that right now
[5:54 PM] plus: they put their timezone in the thread
[5:54 PM] plus: just like we're doing right now
[5:54 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: u can technically ignore whoever u like
[5:54 PM] plus: then you post just like you do in tutor talk
[5:55 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: i honestly dont care about how the signups work as long as i can drop dead/bad tutees quickly
[5:55 PM] plus: yea
[5:55 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: having to wait a full month sucked and ive already dropped 3 tutees
[5:55 PM] starry: yeh
[5:55 PM] plus: which you can, and have
[5:56 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: so this system is way better for me
[5:56 PM] Californium: is there a thread for vdropping tutees
[5:56 PM] plus: no
[5:56 PM] plus: just pm me or a b101 mod or something
[5:56 PM] plus: and blacklist them if you feel no other tutor should be subject to your torture
[5:56 PM] plus: in the thread
[5:56 PM] Californium: okay I might have to pm one of you after this discussion
[5:56 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: tutoring is torture yn
[5:56 PM] Eyan: My biggest issue with the new system was the whole tier exposure issue, esp with the lack of announcements so I'm fine with anything at this rate
[5:56 PM] Eyan: I love tutoring
[5:56 PM] plus: yeah eyan
[5:57 PM] plus: i feel that if uu had its own thread
[5:57 PM] plus: it might be better
[5:57 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: yeah tbh exposure has always been a problem tho
[5:57 PM] Californium: yeah tier threads
[5:57 PM] Californium: would be good
[5:57 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: like i said a bit back, i didnt even know b101 existed
[5:57 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: for the longest time
[5:57 PM] Eyan: yeah esp since I know a lot of my friends just signed up to be a tutor recently
[5:57 PM] Coconut: LC would only benefit from having it's own thread
[5:57 PM] HQuaze: what is 101 for?
[5:57 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: its not rly that well advertised to newer members of the community imo
[5:57 PM] Californium: I think smaller tiers would benefit with this idea
[5:57 PM] Eyan: I advertise it quite a lot on PS
[5:57 PM] Eyan: in the room I own
[5:58 PM] Californium: and it would probably give tutors initiative to apply for a tutee
[5:58 PM] plus: 101 is just a suffix that makes it sound like a college level course hquaze
[5:58 PM] starry: i try to advertise it but like
[5:58 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: itd be cool if u could advertise it in the thread forums, or maybe in the roomintros of the public rooms or smth idk
[5:58 PM] starry: not many other people do
[5:58 PM] starry: in OU
[5:58 PM] starry: it seems
[5:58 PM] starry: :(
[5:58 PM] Californium: Like it seems to help me knowing what tutees
[5:58 PM] Californium: are visually there
[5:58 PM] plus: yeah see
[5:58 PM] plus: i think if you had the tier threads
[5:58 PM] plus: you could actually advertise easier
[5:58 PM] plus: in specific forums
[5:58 PM] Coconut: the only tutees from this system have been because I advertised it in the LC chat on PS
[5:58 PM] starry: ya
[5:58 PM] plus: or chatrooms
[5:58 PM] Eyan: You could just link the tier threads
[5:58 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: yeah
[5:59 PM] Eyan: Like right now it's quite a bit of trouble getting a tutee for UU after my first one o.o
[5:59 PM] Californium: just keep tier specific threads for all timezones
[5:59 PM] Californium: lock them after so many posts
[5:59 PM] plus: yeah
[5:59 PM] Coconut: don't lock LC thanks.
[5:59 PM] Californium: could work imo
[6:00 PM] Californium: say like 10 for every tier and 15 for OU maybe
[6:00 PM] plus: i agree, that seems like the best solution to the exposure problem
[6:00 PM] starry: but make sure you delete the shit posts so qualified tutees aren't getting locked out
[6:00 PM] Californium: cause OU is popular
[6:00 PM] Eyan: You may not necessarily need to lock them after x posts, since you'd have to take note of their timezones as well for one
[6:00 PM] starry: due to "Jumpman2005" with a 2 day old account
[6:00 PM] starry: ;~;
[6:00 PM] Eyan: but generally speaking, it just creates so much more freedom for both tutors and tutees
[6:00 PM] Sken: if you lock the ou thread
[6:00 PM] Californium: yeah
[6:00 PM] Sken: and then open it after some time
[6:00 PM] Sken: there will be a lot of people(edited)
[6:01 PM] Sken: and it will just be like the old system
[6:01 PM] starry: that's why i think it's fair for tutors to be able to fish through those people ourselves to find ones we think are qualified
[6:01 PM] starry: OU obviously has a bigger issue with this
[6:01 PM] starry: than any other tier
[6:01 PM] Eyan: Well the difference is that it's not limited by specific times, and still requires the intiative of tutors that actually care about the program
[6:01 PM] starry: and that's a crazy amount of work to put on what 4 mods?
[6:02 PM] plus: no it's not
[6:02 PM] starry: u sure
[6:02 PM] plus: yes
[6:02 PM] starry: oke
[6:02 PM] Coconut: and there's 5.
[6:02 PM] Coconut: god.
[6:02 PM] Coconut: that's a ton for four
[6:02 PM] Coconut: but 5?
[6:02 PM] Coconut: easy
[6:02 PM] plus: i'll delete more posts in ou
[6:02 PM] starry: lmao
[6:02 PM] plus: if we create the tier threads
[6:02 PM] Eyan: Coco please
[6:02 PM] starry: @ coconut
[6:02 PM] Californium: tier threads are the way forward imo
[6:03 PM] Californium: Ubers / OU / UU / RU / NU / PU / LC / Doubles / Old Gens
[6:03 PM] obii: yea and it'll give those lower tiers good exposure
[6:03 PM] obii: easier advertising
[6:03 PM] obii: etc
[6:03 PM] Californium: as threads
[6:03 PM] Californium: seems best
[6:03 PM] plus: ok
[6:03 PM] Californium: otherwise having a thread for every old gen
[6:03 PM] Californium: would get messy af
[6:03 PM] starry: yeh
[6:03 PM] plus: id probably just mix vgc into doubles as well
[6:04 PM] Californium: yeah okay
[6:04 PM] Coconut: idt
[6:04 PM] Coconut: they'd be happy about that
[6:04 PM] Californium: VGC/ Doubles OU
[6:04 PM] Coconut: the vgcers at least
[6:04 PM] obii: i mean
[6:04 PM] Californium: tutees would still specify
[6:04 PM] plus: how many vgc tutors do we have though
[6:04 PM] obii: a lot of the dou tutors are also vgc tutors
[6:04 PM] Eyan: I just don't want the people who want VGC to sign up DOU thinking they're the same lol
[6:04 PM] obii: so
[6:04 PM] Coconut: but w/e I don't represent them
[6:04 PM] Eyan: and vice versa
[6:04 PM] Californium: what they would want
[6:04 PM] plus: jio and sam
[6:04 PM] starry: there are like 3 vgc tutors
[6:04 PM] starry: or smething
[6:04 PM] plus: i can't think of anyone else
[6:04 PM] obii: theres kamikaze iirc
[6:04 PM] plus:
kamikaze
[6:04 PM] plus: that's it
[6:04 PM] starry: there was use ace emerald who NEVER GOT IN TOUCH WITH ME
[6:04 PM] starry: i mean what
[6:04 PM] Eyan: nice
[6:04 PM] Eyan: deserved tbh
[6:05 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: or theres the infinitely better solution
[6:05 PM] starry: i still want myf ucking refund
[6:05 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: make every tutor a mod
[6:05 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: what is a tutor badge
[6:05 PM] ǝsןɐɟ: omg im a genius
[6:05 PM] Eyan: lol
[6:05 PM] plus: i dont think jio/sam/kamikaza care about thread semantics
[6:05 PM] plus: they aren't petty af lol