Hi, I used only standard pokemons to build this team, it is mainly for uber, but also legal in standard!
Team at a glance!
Tyranitar
Careful nature
EV: 252hp/200SpD/56Atk
item:choice band
Moves:
Stone edge
Earthquake
Crunch
Pursuit
My leads. He stops Groudon and Kyogre lead getting their weather, though I have to switch if facing them. Lati@osget crunch or pursuit, Dialga face EQ, Deoxy-S and Darkrai lose their focus sash due to sand, Mewtwo fail to OHKO with Aura sphere and can OHKO back with crunch. He is also my physical attacker on the team.
Forretress
Relaxed nature
EV:252hp/252Def/6SpD
item:leftovers
Moves:
Spikes
Stealth rock
Rapid Spin
Earthquake
My spiker, rapid spinner and physical wall. He set up the vital entry harzard for me and spin off my opponent's. EQ help me to handle steel such as Metagross and Dialga. Help me couter some physical threat such as outraging Rayquazza, non fire punch Groudon, Metagross, Heracross and more. I am not sure if my EV spread is suitable for uber and I welcome any other suggestion .
Cresselia
Bold nature
EV:252hp/252Def/6SpD
item: lefeovers
Moves:
Rest
Sleep Talk/Reflect?
thunderwave
Ice beam
My main physical wall, but can also take some special beating. This is a very important pokemon on my team, as it counter so many threat. Dragon Dance Rayquazza, most Groudon, Garchomp, Shaymin-S all are stopped by her. I am debating should I go with Sleep talk or reflect, right now I think sleep talk seems to be better. Also, I need suggestion on EVs, I don't know how much EV I can pull out from Def so that I can still survive DD Rayquazza Outrages, and dump remaining in SpD, please tell me the number if you know.
Blissey
Calm nature
EV: 252Def/252SpD/6hp
item: leftovers
ability: natural cure
Moves:
Softboiled
Thunder
ice beam
Calm mind
Very standard uber Blissey set but nonetheless important. She is my only one that stop most of the special threat, Kyogre, Mewtwo, Drakari, Lati@os (can also stop by Tyranitar), Giratina, to name a few. I am also thinking about an Aromatherapy set or Wish pass set, but CM set seems to be the best.
Heatran
Rash nature
EV: 252Speed/252SpA/6hp
items:choice Scarf
Moves:
Fire blasts
Dragon Pulse/HP ice
Earthpower
Explosion
My only special sweeper, also a good revenge killer. It is my only pokemon to counter most of the steel type, including Scizor, Metagross and Dialga (as long as don't switch into an ground move), Magnezone, Forrestress, Skarmory and Bronzong, as well as revenge kill dragon Dragons such as Rayquzza and Garchomp. I think one of the biggest problem for Heatran here is that I don't pair it with Groudon, and I am looking for another special sweeper or a wall that can resist water+electric( I am thinking Lanturn for this). I am also thinking should I do Dragon pulse or HPice. I need your comment.
An alternative to Heatran
Lanturn
Ability:Volt Absorb
Calm nature
EV:252SpD/252hp/6SpA
item:Leftovers
Thunder
Icebeam
Confuse ray
thunder wave
I consider this guy over heatran as it is a good counter to Kyogre, as my only other counter to it is only Blissey, which is also my only special wall, so this guy can reduce some pressure from Blissey. Another point adding this is that it gives me water, electric, and fire resists. Parafusion really annoys people, and Lanturn also make the team more stall oriented compare to heatran. It is also a resonable check against Palkia that I may have trouble to deal with as long as I don't switch into a drogon moves, as I can diable it with parafusion. However, adding it to my team means there is no special sweeper, and please give your opinion on heatran or this guy.
Spiritomb
Careful nature
EV: 252hp/252SpD/6Atk
item: leftovers
Moves:
Will-o-wisp
Pain Split
Sucker punch
Pursuit
Perhaps the most weird addition to the team, as it is almost never seen in uber battle. However, he is the most and also my only reliable counter to Deoxy-A, who can otherwise sweep my entire team. He can also block opposing Forrestress Rapid Spin and burn it with Will-o-wisp shall the need arise. Pain Split is another selling point as most uber has at least 100 base hp, double of his own, so I can usually get a lot of healing while cutting opponent hp. It is also a decent counter to most psychic pokemon, such as Mewtwo and Lati@s.
Overall this is an uber stall team. As I mention I need opion on heatran or Lanturn. When you are giving your opinion, try to suggest other OU/UU pokemon instead of uber because standard against uber is the whole point of the team
Team check?
Threat List
The threat list that will also help in the creation of a solid Uber team. Remember, a counter must be able to switch into a Pokemon with little or no risk to itself and threaten to deal immediate and major damage or set up without much risk to itself.
Ubers
Mewtwo Cresselia and Forrestress should handle the physical variants. Special variants are handled by Blissey. Taunt versions can get ruined by being paralyzed by Blissey’s Thunder. Mew Nothing honestly counters this, as its movepool is enormous. Cresselia can take the sleep and Tyranitar can Pursuit it. Wobbuffet If you can’t switch out, you can’t counter it. Therefore, Wobbuffet is impossible to counter. Lugia Tyranitar handles the Calm Mind variants while Cresselia takes on the Toxic variant. Blissey is able to laugh at any special attack Lugia does, and is a backup. Ho-oh Tyranitar stoneedge and Cresselia stops it. Latios and Latias Blissey can come in and take little damage from their attacks, and Tyranitar can destroy both with either Crunch or Pursuit. Kyogre Blissey and the alternative Lanturn. Blissey can defeat it with Thunder. Cresselia handles the odd physical versions and mix version. If I choose Lanturn than it is the most reliable counter to this Groudon Cresselia wall it. Forrestress also set up on fire punch less variant. Rayquaza Cresselia can take a DDance boosted Outrage and ice beam it, Forrestress and Heatran soak up outrages too. Deoxys-A Spritomb destroys it.Deoxys-D Tyranitar handles the Toxic/Taunt/Agility variant while Blissey beats up Deoxys-D with the help of Calm Mind. Palkia Only Blissey stands a chance if it does not have physical attack, but if I choose Lanturn than I can take on with it too. I need suggestion to stop this guyDialga Blissey takes care of any and all special variants. Cresselia can come in the mixset and wear it down with ice beam and rest off the damage Giratina Blissey can come in and set up calm mind, eventually beat it with ice beam.Giratina-OForretress and Cresselia wall the physical set and Blissey can take on special set. Tyranitar is also a good counter if it does not have aura sphereShaymin-S
Blissey and Cresselia can come in and ice beam it to death. Heatran is faster than non-sccarf version and can fire it to death.
Darkrai If predicted right, Cresselia absorbs the sleep and Blissey handles all special attack Darkrai throws to her. Manaphy Manhandled by Blissey's Thunders.
Non ubers
Metagross Heatran can switch in a non EQ move and kill it with Fire blast. Forrestress can also come in to set up entry hazzard or hit it with EarthquakeBlissey Tyranitar come in and Crunch or Pursuit. Heatran Tyranitar cut off the sun and hit it with Earthquake. Blissey can also come in and Calm mind up. Weavile Forrestress can come in and set up or wear it down with EQ. Heatran and also come in and scare it off with fire moveTyranitar I have trouble against this. Foresstree stands a chance to hit it with repeated EQ. But I don't have anything else since Cresselia get hit by STAB Crunch. I need suggestion to fix this. Skarmory Heatran burns it to cinders. Lanturn can thunder it. Forestress can set up on it.Forretress Spritomb absorbs Explosion and rapid spin, and burn it with will-o-wisp.My own Forretress can come in to blow away the entry harzard it set up.Magnezone Spritomb takes explosion. Heatran kills it regardless of being trap. Lanturn can also parafusion it.Ninjask None sadly, but if it is repeatedly attacked, it will usually pass nothing but Speed, which by itself isn't overly threatening. Heracross Another pokemon I have trouble to against. Heatran is my best bet, but I don't want to switch in close combat. Fortunately I think this guy are not that common now.All Chlorophyll Pokemon (such as Tangrowth and Exeggutor) Handled by Blissey and Tyranitar. Tyranitar cut off the sun, Blissey can set up calm mind on them. Spritomb can also come in most of the set and burn them, than restore heal by pain splitShedinja Tyranitar and Spritomb pursuit it. Forretress set up entry hazzard.Swift Swimmers Ludicolo and Kingdra are handled by Blissey. Floatzel is slightly harder to handle, but without Taunt it is ruined by Cresselia thunder wave. Its weak defenses allow it to be a snack to the common Thunder in the team. Tyranitar can cut off their weatherJirachi Tyranitar and Forrestress can Earthquake it. Heatran also burn it with fire. Blissey can paralyze it with Thunder too, although nothing but a stallwar happens when two pokemon are facing each other armed with Calm Minds. Blissey might emerge victorious in the end with a single critical hit, because Blissey will survive a Critical Hit anything Jirachi throws at it. Bronzong Cresselia absorb sleep. Spritomb absorb explosion and possible burn it. Heatran kills it with fire.
Team at a glance!
Tyranitar
Careful nature
EV: 252hp/200SpD/56Atk
item:choice band
Moves:
Stone edge
Earthquake
Crunch
Pursuit
My leads. He stops Groudon and Kyogre lead getting their weather, though I have to switch if facing them. Lati@osget crunch or pursuit, Dialga face EQ, Deoxy-S and Darkrai lose their focus sash due to sand, Mewtwo fail to OHKO with Aura sphere and can OHKO back with crunch. He is also my physical attacker on the team.
Forretress
Relaxed nature
EV:252hp/252Def/6SpD
item:leftovers
Moves:
Spikes
Stealth rock
Rapid Spin
Earthquake
My spiker, rapid spinner and physical wall. He set up the vital entry harzard for me and spin off my opponent's. EQ help me to handle steel such as Metagross and Dialga. Help me couter some physical threat such as outraging Rayquazza, non fire punch Groudon, Metagross, Heracross and more. I am not sure if my EV spread is suitable for uber and I welcome any other suggestion .
Cresselia
Bold nature
EV:252hp/252Def/6SpD
item: lefeovers
Moves:
Rest
Sleep Talk/Reflect?
thunderwave
Ice beam
My main physical wall, but can also take some special beating. This is a very important pokemon on my team, as it counter so many threat. Dragon Dance Rayquazza, most Groudon, Garchomp, Shaymin-S all are stopped by her. I am debating should I go with Sleep talk or reflect, right now I think sleep talk seems to be better. Also, I need suggestion on EVs, I don't know how much EV I can pull out from Def so that I can still survive DD Rayquazza Outrages, and dump remaining in SpD, please tell me the number if you know.
Blissey
Calm nature
EV: 252Def/252SpD/6hp
item: leftovers
ability: natural cure
Moves:
Softboiled
Thunder
ice beam
Calm mind
Very standard uber Blissey set but nonetheless important. She is my only one that stop most of the special threat, Kyogre, Mewtwo, Drakari, Lati@os (can also stop by Tyranitar), Giratina, to name a few. I am also thinking about an Aromatherapy set or Wish pass set, but CM set seems to be the best.
Heatran
Rash nature
EV: 252Speed/252SpA/6hp
items:choice Scarf
Moves:
Fire blasts
Dragon Pulse/HP ice
Earthpower
Explosion
My only special sweeper, also a good revenge killer. It is my only pokemon to counter most of the steel type, including Scizor, Metagross and Dialga (as long as don't switch into an ground move), Magnezone, Forrestress, Skarmory and Bronzong, as well as revenge kill dragon Dragons such as Rayquzza and Garchomp. I think one of the biggest problem for Heatran here is that I don't pair it with Groudon, and I am looking for another special sweeper or a wall that can resist water+electric( I am thinking Lanturn for this). I am also thinking should I do Dragon pulse or HPice. I need your comment.
An alternative to Heatran
Lanturn
Ability:Volt Absorb
Calm nature
EV:252SpD/252hp/6SpA
item:Leftovers
Thunder
Icebeam
Confuse ray
thunder wave
I consider this guy over heatran as it is a good counter to Kyogre, as my only other counter to it is only Blissey, which is also my only special wall, so this guy can reduce some pressure from Blissey. Another point adding this is that it gives me water, electric, and fire resists. Parafusion really annoys people, and Lanturn also make the team more stall oriented compare to heatran. It is also a resonable check against Palkia that I may have trouble to deal with as long as I don't switch into a drogon moves, as I can diable it with parafusion. However, adding it to my team means there is no special sweeper, and please give your opinion on heatran or this guy.
Spiritomb
Careful nature
EV: 252hp/252SpD/6Atk
item: leftovers
Moves:
Will-o-wisp
Pain Split
Sucker punch
Pursuit
Perhaps the most weird addition to the team, as it is almost never seen in uber battle. However, he is the most and also my only reliable counter to Deoxy-A, who can otherwise sweep my entire team. He can also block opposing Forrestress Rapid Spin and burn it with Will-o-wisp shall the need arise. Pain Split is another selling point as most uber has at least 100 base hp, double of his own, so I can usually get a lot of healing while cutting opponent hp. It is also a decent counter to most psychic pokemon, such as Mewtwo and Lati@s.
Overall this is an uber stall team. As I mention I need opion on heatran or Lanturn. When you are giving your opinion, try to suggest other OU/UU pokemon instead of uber because standard against uber is the whole point of the team
Team check?
- Have a special wall? Yes (Blissey, and Spiritomb to some extent)
- Have a physical wall? Yes (Forrestress, Cresselia)
- Have a special sweeper? Yes (Heatran)
- Have a physical sweeper? Yes (Tyranitar,)
- Have resistances to Dragon, Ice, Electric, Psychic, Dark, Ghost, Bug, Fighting, Ground, Water, Fire, Steel and Rock? The team does not resist water, electric, and rock. As stated earlier, I am thinking to replace Heatran with Lanturn to cover Electric and water type attack, and fortunately none of my team are weak to rock.
- Have a Spinner? Yes (Forrestress)
- Have a phazer? No, but since Ninjask is the only Baton passer in ubers, and is rather uncommon due to the appearance of Stealth Rock, it is not much of a deal.
- Have a weather changer? Yes (Tyranitar)
- Have a Spiker/Stealth Rocker? Yes (Forrestress)
- Have a sleep talker? Yes (Cresselia)
Threat List
The threat list that will also help in the creation of a solid Uber team. Remember, a counter must be able to switch into a Pokemon with little or no risk to itself and threaten to deal immediate and major damage or set up without much risk to itself.
Ubers
Mewtwo Cresselia and Forrestress should handle the physical variants. Special variants are handled by Blissey. Taunt versions can get ruined by being paralyzed by Blissey’s Thunder. Mew Nothing honestly counters this, as its movepool is enormous. Cresselia can take the sleep and Tyranitar can Pursuit it. Wobbuffet If you can’t switch out, you can’t counter it. Therefore, Wobbuffet is impossible to counter. Lugia Tyranitar handles the Calm Mind variants while Cresselia takes on the Toxic variant. Blissey is able to laugh at any special attack Lugia does, and is a backup. Ho-oh Tyranitar stoneedge and Cresselia stops it. Latios and Latias Blissey can come in and take little damage from their attacks, and Tyranitar can destroy both with either Crunch or Pursuit. Kyogre Blissey and the alternative Lanturn. Blissey can defeat it with Thunder. Cresselia handles the odd physical versions and mix version. If I choose Lanturn than it is the most reliable counter to this Groudon Cresselia wall it. Forrestress also set up on fire punch less variant. Rayquaza Cresselia can take a DDance boosted Outrage and ice beam it, Forrestress and Heatran soak up outrages too. Deoxys-A Spritomb destroys it.Deoxys-D Tyranitar handles the Toxic/Taunt/Agility variant while Blissey beats up Deoxys-D with the help of Calm Mind. Palkia Only Blissey stands a chance if it does not have physical attack, but if I choose Lanturn than I can take on with it too. I need suggestion to stop this guyDialga Blissey takes care of any and all special variants. Cresselia can come in the mixset and wear it down with ice beam and rest off the damage Giratina Blissey can come in and set up calm mind, eventually beat it with ice beam.Giratina-OForretress and Cresselia wall the physical set and Blissey can take on special set. Tyranitar is also a good counter if it does not have aura sphereShaymin-S
Blissey and Cresselia can come in and ice beam it to death. Heatran is faster than non-sccarf version and can fire it to death.
Darkrai If predicted right, Cresselia absorbs the sleep and Blissey handles all special attack Darkrai throws to her. Manaphy Manhandled by Blissey's Thunders.
Non ubers
Metagross Heatran can switch in a non EQ move and kill it with Fire blast. Forrestress can also come in to set up entry hazzard or hit it with EarthquakeBlissey Tyranitar come in and Crunch or Pursuit. Heatran Tyranitar cut off the sun and hit it with Earthquake. Blissey can also come in and Calm mind up. Weavile Forrestress can come in and set up or wear it down with EQ. Heatran and also come in and scare it off with fire moveTyranitar I have trouble against this. Foresstree stands a chance to hit it with repeated EQ. But I don't have anything else since Cresselia get hit by STAB Crunch. I need suggestion to fix this. Skarmory Heatran burns it to cinders. Lanturn can thunder it. Forestress can set up on it.Forretress Spritomb absorbs Explosion and rapid spin, and burn it with will-o-wisp.My own Forretress can come in to blow away the entry harzard it set up.Magnezone Spritomb takes explosion. Heatran kills it regardless of being trap. Lanturn can also parafusion it.Ninjask None sadly, but if it is repeatedly attacked, it will usually pass nothing but Speed, which by itself isn't overly threatening. Heracross Another pokemon I have trouble to against. Heatran is my best bet, but I don't want to switch in close combat. Fortunately I think this guy are not that common now.All Chlorophyll Pokemon (such as Tangrowth and Exeggutor) Handled by Blissey and Tyranitar. Tyranitar cut off the sun, Blissey can set up calm mind on them. Spritomb can also come in most of the set and burn them, than restore heal by pain splitShedinja Tyranitar and Spritomb pursuit it. Forretress set up entry hazzard.Swift Swimmers Ludicolo and Kingdra are handled by Blissey. Floatzel is slightly harder to handle, but without Taunt it is ruined by Cresselia thunder wave. Its weak defenses allow it to be a snack to the common Thunder in the team. Tyranitar can cut off their weatherJirachi Tyranitar and Forrestress can Earthquake it. Heatran also burn it with fire. Blissey can paralyze it with Thunder too, although nothing but a stallwar happens when two pokemon are facing each other armed with Calm Minds. Blissey might emerge victorious in the end with a single critical hit, because Blissey will survive a Critical Hit anything Jirachi throws at it. Bronzong Cresselia absorb sleep. Spritomb absorb explosion and possible burn it. Heatran kills it with fire.
