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Hey, thanks for giving this a try. Getting Kyurem in safely is one of the trickier parts of using this team. With Spore/offensive pressure, multiple hazards should be somewhat uncommon --but as you say even SR alone is a problem. It's why LO is too reckless, and choice items too dangerous...

Low Sweep + Bullet Seed/Low Sweep with LO covers about the same ground. While it would be nice to not lose the 20% HP, the 30% loss in Bullet Seed damage is worse when trying to power through some targets. Reuniclus, Celebi, Gliscor, Landorus-T, and Conkeldurr are a few that come to mind...

Thanks for the clarification, I suspected that wasn't qSeasons, but I didn't know how else to reference them lol. Edit: This is the last I saw of the ladder before things were reset.. See you guys on the other side!

Keldeo can be played around to a degree when everything except Jirachi resists water. Like I mentioned, I think if taking Secret Sword is the concern, the answer is increasing Jirachi's defense. While Agility Thundurus-T is one of the biggest threats to this team, using Celebi makes Tornadus...

Thanks Tesung, these are some nuanced things you brought up. 2x HP Bug may seem like an overreaction, but it was more to do with not having a better option. You can mess around with Politoed's - Encore/Perish Song is a useful choice, you just can't change water STAB + Ice Beam. Since you have...

Hey, thanks for the response. While you considered changes to 5/6 Pokemon, at least none were changed outright lol. I feel I would be most receptive to defensive Politoed and Swords Dance Breloom. Both are standard sets for a reason, and I've used them both in the past. Full investment for...

I guess I'll use this as my one-time bump. I thought this would get some reaction to the use of Freeze Shock, but again any thoughts would be appreciated. It's stressful laddering at this point as one crit or unfortunate match-up could drop you a ways; I did manage to get sandwiched between...

21 seems extreme considering scheduling conflicts and how we'll want to watch it all. But if they can't knock them all out in one go, it'd be a nice opportunity to release in pieces. Builds suspense.

You absolutely can, I included that. Looking at the 1850 statistics from September though, Celebi was at 9.5% usage; Gastrodon was just less than half that. HP Grass from scarf Politoed isn't breaking through Jellicent unless it's already weakened, but that is also a plus.

http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou-54680940 http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou-54690462 I chose a couple replays, not because they show this team at its best. They're a couple examples of when things aren't going well, that it can be pretty resilient. Anyway, in practice the most...

After becoming interested in competitive Pokemon earlier this year, I had wanted for awhile to put in some serious ladder attempts. Suspect tests of Landorus and Keldeo put a pause to that, as I was content just knocking out those requirements. However this past week I had the time, and some...

Like a lot of people, lately I've been playing around with Kyurem-B, trying to take advantage of it. The Substitute + 3 attacks version appealed to me, as Sub not only protects from status and revenge killing, but with Kyurem's excellent natural bulk allows it to eat weaker/resisted attacks...

Keldeo: Do Not Ban

Certainly seems too easy with how inflated the ladders are. I remember being drunk when I did oucurrent, and realizing I had used Choice Band instead of Specs on Keldeo lol. Lots of room for error and messing around.

Landorus-I: Ban

I don't think all of the intensifiers being thrown around to defend Landorus are helping. Amoongus is not "extremely viable" in terms of checking Landorus, and Rotom is not a "fantastic" check, especially in the context that Halcyon gave (Focus Blast accuracy). Let me state the obvious in that...

Rocks or a very small amount of incidental damage is a common occurrence. I'm not implying the Landorus user has perfect prediction, but I think it's fair to say that Rotom-W is not a consistent check to Landorus. You need to rely on prediction or Focus Blast misses. That plan can quickly go...

Were you consistently out-predicting the Landorus users? With Rotom-W, how did you avoid taking a Focus Blast on the switch-in, and then face the impending 70% doom (or U-turn if they want to play it safe)? As someone who's on the fence on which way to vote, this sounds as if you were simply...

I don't feel strongly about voting either way, but I'm leaning towards ban. A large reason is, as others have gone over, that constrictive influence Landorus has on team building. Making any kind of stall team that can deal with a smartly played Landorus is a monumental task. To a lesser degree...