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"Unhealthy" being whatever you decide you don't like I assume. Swagger is pure RNG, Aegislash has no counters, shadow tag bypasses one of the main mechanics off the game. Baton pass is nothing like any of these things. I only used the word broken once, and you can replace it with unhealthy if...

Why do people expect to auto-win vs a team without having to make any predictions? Yes sometimes you lose to BP because you made the wrong prediction, sometimes you beat BP because you made the right prediction. This applies to literally every game on ladder between 2 relatively competitive...

I mean sure, whether or not Lando-T is rated S rank in this thread doesn't change that it's the most meta defining pokemon in OU, a strong option on every archetype besides stall, serves as a blanket check vs most physical attackers, etc. You could put Lando-T in D rank, and it wouldn't change...

Clefable being a good mon doesn't exclude lando-t from being better than it. Lando-T only gets worn down as it takes down the other mon with it, just because it generally can't deal with more than 1 physical threat on their team (generally kills 1 while setting up rocks, and can intimidate...

Lando-T is insanely consistent lol, it finds use vs every type of team, and is extremely to difficult to deal with because even if you "counter" it, it's still setting up rocks, dealing rocky helmet chip damage to whatever hit it, and u-turning out to generate momentum (and that's only...

My main issue with PU last gen was the centralization of hazards (when the best spinner in the tier is sandshrew, who can't actually touch any ghost type, you know the meta's just going to be hazard stacking offense). It basically made the idea of a balanced PU metagame implausible. Maybe defog...

Don't underestimate the general playerbase's ability to use terrible mons (OU electivire in GenIV, OU Infernape GenV)

First of all, it's based on usage, not power, they're not the same thing. Second of all, a mons performance in UU doesn't mean anything for whether they should be in the tier or not. A perfect example being Gastrodon or Dugtrio in GenV. Both OU mons, who if not OU would drop past UU into RU or...

So first impressions Keldeo's fairly balanced, having basically all of its former OU checks now be UU, lol. Latias and Hydreigon are really good but not overpoweringly so with plenty of ways to work around them (or just use chansey/florges) Bisharp is probably the strongest mon in the tier atm...

Arcticblast edit: Someone didn't read post 13... I'm going to have to say I really disagree with the process of assuming mons are broken then essentially testing for whether people prefer a metagame with them legal or not. Inherently by banning them straight up, people are going to want to...

Was mentioned in the usage thread, but would it be possible to exclude Kangaskhan from the initial UU banlist? It's a special case where the only reason it would ever be used in OU is its mega stone, which has since been banned, meaning the currently legal Kangaskhan is really an NU/RU mon...

On the topic of rain. Rain dance was really good for UU in gen V, with all the swift swimmers being really strong. And tbh, Politoed is a shit mon (having no merits outside of drizzle), so it's not much better than just running rain dance Azelf (who can even set up rocks and explode for...

I'd be careful about saying a more offensive meta is a more skilled meta. When you have everyone using offensive teams, a battle can be decided by few predictions, which leads to more variation in the victor. It's also easier to build an offensively inclined team than a defensive one. Whereas...

This issue with relying on a mega form's speed is they don't get it on the turn they mega evolve.

Choiced sucker punch is the epitome of set-up bait.

Lucario often carries Ice Punch though.

To expand on this, stall teams essentially rely on checking/countering everything, and always keeping hazards in your favour. Whereas on an offensive team I can get away with having no switch in to Mega Pinsir as long as nothing really gives it a free switch in, and I have talonflame to revenge...

Nobody uses most of the pokes you mentioned because they're gimmicky and outclassed. As for the megas, when there are still obviously OP megas available, justifying using other ones is difficult. Using pokes just for the sake of variety is silly, people use stuff that works well because they...

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb (custom) Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 313-370 (77.47 - 91.58%) Me first Talonflame is funny. Also, Mandibuzz doesn't counter talonflame, banded brave bird 2HKOs after rocks/if mandibuzz is not completely healthy, +2 LO Brave bird is similarly damaging.

Focus energy + scope lens would be like work up, except forcing you to not use LO or lum berry. Not really ideal tbh. I only really see kingdra abusing crits viably because sniper gives it the 2.25x damage and draco meteors for days, but it still sucks that it would basically need the set-up...