why is there a bath and body works photo hereYes, this is a mistake/glitch and should be fixed soon. For now have fun with it
why is there a bath and body works photo hereYes, this is a mistake/glitch and should be fixed soon. For now have fun with it
One piece of advice I have for newer players is to think of your team as 1 team of 6 pokemon, not 3 teams of 2. You can't rely on always having a specific pair of pokemon on the field at the same time. All 3 pairings you have are decently strong, but how well will they work if they get disrupted? If I KO Iron Hands before Flamigo comes in, how useful is it? If I KO Flamigo early, how much is Espartha contributing? If I stop Trick Room from going up, how much damage is Iron Hands going to do before it gets KO'd (especially because of the self damage from Belly Drum). You have a lot of cool ideas on this team, but it's brittle. If one piece breaks, how can you patch it up mid game?Hello everyone, Astroblastyt here, and I've decided to do something big
I've decided after long and hard thought... i will be remaking my doubles. ou team cuz it sucks
ok enough joking around time for the remade team
Combo 1: electric kush v2
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electro hoe (Iron Hands) @ Clear Amulet
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Belly Drum
- Fake Out
- Earthquake
- Drain Punch
nothing much changed with my buddy electro hoe but I decided room service is kinda worthless on an already very slow mon so I decided to make it clear amulet to avoid parting shot, intimidate, and. other moves that ruin the belly drum sweep.
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chug jug (Meowscarada) @ Room Service
Ability: Protean
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Pollen Puff
- Trick Room
- Acrobatics
- Helping Hand
The chug jug is the exact same, if it ain't broke don't fix it
NOW FOR THE NEW COMBOS
Combo 2: THE BACKUP BIRDS
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Bro bird (Flamigo) @ Ability Shield
Ability: Costar
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Liquidation
- Wide Guard
- Low Kick
- U-turn
Now I realized that when or if meowscarda fucking dies we need emergency support, that's where the amigo bro flamigo comes in, just simply switch out of chug jug, and BOOM you have a 4x atk flamingo
also, the ability shield may seem like an odd pick, but. grafariai and slaking are EVERYWHERE and i dont wanna risk giving costar to slaking
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back up (Espathra) @ Mirror Herb
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Helping Hand
- Lumina Crash
- Dazzling Gleam
- Energy Ball
now trick room and iron hands arent guaranteed to work all the time, so as a back up i decided to add flamigo and the 2nd bird bro: esparthra
if or when iron hands die, switch into espartha i honestly cant say anything else
FINAL COMBO:
THE POWER OF THE SUN
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turtle. (Torkoal) @ Heat Rock
Ability: Drought
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature
- Protect
- Eruption
- Flare Blitz
- Flamethrower
hes torkal, enough said
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Phantom (Flutter Mane) @ Life Orb
Ability: Protosynthesis
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Dazzling Gleam
- Helping Hand
life orb flutter mane enough said
thank you for reading
pokepaste: https://pokepast.es/2e87bc2e7f274c2d
There is an ongoing council vote which will be posted later todaySoooooo anything happening in the metagame? Any news from the council? Anybody find something interesting or annoying while playing? Any team ideas anybody has?
How long do I have to wait to double-post? Cause we are at about 19 hours since my last post and nothing has happened.
Awesome! Can't wait for the results.There is an ongoing council vote which will be posted later today
Ah yeah sorry, I should have included a sentence about that in my post. For reasons that have been discussed more extensively already, we're in agreement that Flutter Mane is a problem, primarily because of its fantastic offensive stats and typing making it an overwhelming threat, especially alongside Chi-Yu/sun. The split in votes on Flutter Mane is pretty much down to people who think it should be suspect tested versus those who feel it's so over the top and overbearing that it reaches the threshold where it should just be quick banned directly.Out of curiosity, did the council members give thoughts on their Flutter Mane votes? It's the only pokemon on the slate that had more than one ban vote, so I'm curious what they thought about it.
I’m not actually on the council so I don’t technically have any authority behind this, but if the ape is broken, then the ape is broken. We’re not going to cut a move out from a Pokémon just to keep it around, so if Annihilape is deemed broken, then that’s what gets banned—though at this point, after two QB slates and Doubles World Cup currently running, it’s more likely to be a suspect test than a quickban, if we even still think it’s broken in a couple months. (Rage Fist probably isn’t broken on Eviolite Primeape either.)I haven't fought many Annihilape teams but if enough people think he's an insane Mon then please just ban Rage Fist, don't make the OU mistake of banning Houndstone for a single broken move.
Darkrai and Dark Void. Smeargle can't even use it anymore so that argument can't be made. Dark Void was banned for being bullshit, Rage Fist can be done the same way. Singles tiering sucks and so does acting like one choice for a Mon/move will crumble the entire tiering process. Let the monkey stay in, he'll be fine. Even if people don't want to just ban Rage Fist this is doubles and you have to run gimmick sets to get him goin at max power immediately, he can't just max bulk and Chesto Resto as he pleasesI’m not actually on the council so I don’t technically have any authority behind this, but if the ape is broken, then the ape is broken. We’re not going to cut a move out from a Pokémon just to keep it around, so if Annihilape is deemed broken, then that’s what gets banned—though at this point, after two QB slates and Doubles World Cup currently running, it’s more likely to be a suspect test than a quickban, if we even still think it’s broken in a couple months. (Rage Fist probably isn’t broken on Eviolite Primeape either.)
Dondozo and Tatsugiri may get a different approach because of the unique mechanics; you can check out Memoric’s thread in Policy Review here. We encourage anyone with additional thoughts on Dondozo who cannot post in Policy Review to post here.
The issue with this is that it sets the precedent that every broken mon can be made balanced by removing its move pool. Gen 4 dragons wouldn't be as broken without Draco Meteor, so should they have looked at that instead? It will cause the player base to start looking at EVERY mon and say "what can we do to keep it in the tier?" OU Palafin wouldn't be as broken without its 60BP priority move. Iron Bundle wouldn't be as broken if it lost freeze dry or hydro pump. But they have those moves and were deemed too much. I agree with ArcticBlast and the council that if the cumulative elements lead to the mon being broken, then the mon is broken.Darkrai and Dark Void. Smeargle can't even use it anymore so that argument can't be made. Dark Void was banned for being bullshit, Rage Fist can be done the same way. Singles tiering sucks and so does acting like one choice for a Mon/move will crumble the entire tiering process
Darkrai and Dark Void is a loose end we should be tying, as the way that ban is set up right now shouldn't be the case. I've been consistently been annoying about it in DOU Discord and have made a post about it in the SM DOU thread here. In an ideal ruleset according to Smogon philosophy, Dark Void being banned instead of Darkrai shouldn't happen, and at the moment we should do something about this so it's not used a precedent. If we ever do anything about Annihilape, it definitely shouldn't be banning Rage Fist (unless we also somehow see that Primeape is busted with it too).Darkrai and Dark Void. Smeargle can't even use it anymore so that argument can't be made. Dark Void was banned for being bullshit, Rage Fist can be done the same way. Singles tiering sucks and so does acting like one choice for a Mon/move will crumble the entire tiering process. Let the monkey stay in, he'll be fine. Even if people don't want to just ban Rage Fist this is doubles and you have to run gimmick sets to get him goin at max power immediately, he can't just max bulk and Chesto Resto as he pleases
I don't really care about Annihilape anymore cuz I don't see myself using him but anyone who posts the strawman about "bro you'll want this next" should edit their posts with something that isn't bullshit like this and infects the discussion of move/complex bans every single time. Anyone who types "ok what if we nerf all Ubers" should be ashamed because it does nothing for the discussion other than dumb it down. I asked about a single signature move on a Mon that isn't nutty without it, not if you can co-opt the idea into a slippery slope. It is dishonestThe issue with this is that it sets the precedent that every broken mon can be made balanced by removing its move pool. Gen 4 dragons wouldn't be as broken without Draco Meteor, so should they have looked at that instead? It will cause the player base to start looking at EVERY mon and say "what can we do to keep it in the tier?" OU Palafin wouldn't be as broken without its 60BP priority move. Iron Bundle wouldn't be as broken if it lost freeze dry or hydro pump. But they have those moves and were deemed too much. I agree with ArcticBlast and the council that if the cumulative elements lead to the mon being broken, then the mon is broken.
Damn dude, sorry to get you riled up. I see your points and why you're upset, but please do so without making others feel less than themselves. I'm new to interacting with the community and am not a great player, so voicing my issues with bans is still a struggle for me. You do have valid points in your post, but telling me to "be ashamed" does not add to the discussion at all and also makes the discussion worse. When you do that, it makes people more likely to overlook your valid points.I don't really care about Annihilape anymore cuz I don't see myself using him but anyone who posts the strawman about "bro you'll want this next" should edit their posts with something that isn't bullshit like this and infects the discussion of move/complex bans every single time. Anyone who types "ok what if we nerf all Ubers" should be ashamed because it does nothing for the discussion other than dumb it down. I asked about a single signature move on a Mon that isn't nutty without it, not if you can co-opt the idea into a slippery slope. It is dishonest
I'm sorry if I come off as trying to demean you but it's just been this way forever and it's really tiring. I'm at work rn and don't have time to give a proper reply but I will talk a bit later when I'm available. Strawmanning is awful and it rears it's ugly head in this topic often. I apologize for making you feel badDamn dude, sorry to get you riled up. I see your points and why you're upset, but please do so without making others feel less than themselves. I'm new to interacting with the community and am not a great player, so voicing my issues with bans is still a struggle for me. You do have valid points in your post, but telling me to "be ashamed" does not add to the discussion at all and also makes the discussion worse. When you do that, it makes people more likely to overlook your valid points.
I do need to ask now: why do you think talking about how one move ban leads to other move bans dumbs the whole discussion down? To me, there are a lot of precedents as you see this trickle-down effect in law all the time. For example (without stating an opinion or getting political about it), the overturning of Roe v Wade allowed a lot of states in the US to implement abortion bans that are otherwise unlawful. Besides, in every ban I've followed, it seems like what follows is a common discussion. In the Melmetal suspect that didn't pass in gen 8, there was a lot of talk about "well what about weavile? When Melmetal is gone, that will have to go and there isn't enough time to suspect it before the gen ends."
In the end, this is a game that we play for fun and maybe I'm just thinking too much about it. FFS, I'm comparing Pokemon to law. Smogon is run by volunteers and they do a lot of hard work to make this game as fun and competitive as possible. If they ban Rage fist or suspect it, then that's what they do, but there isn't a precedence to that being the case and it could lead to more action after.
I'm new to the community. I haven't been through the shit some people have. I gotta recognize that as well.I'm sorry if I come off as trying to demean you but it's just been this way forever and it's really tiring. I'm at work rn and don't have time to give a proper reply but I will talk a bit later when I'm available. Strawmanning is awful and it rears it's ugly head in this topic often. I apologize for making you feel bad