As promised, the OU Council will now open a discussion thread before deciding weither or not we should quick-ban something.
As you guys can guess, this is where discussion on the tiering status of the Gengarite will take place. I implore each and every one of you to add to the discussion with well thought out reasoning describing why you feel that the Gengarite should be Uber or OU. This topic will be left open until whatever point we feel the discussion has reached its conclusion.
Yes, I totally ripped off Jabba's post. Note that the thread has been posted in the Policy Review subforum as well.
RBG Edit: adding post 383 to the front post so people don't have to search for it
As you guys can guess, this is where discussion on the tiering status of the Gengarite will take place. I implore each and every one of you to add to the discussion with well thought out reasoning describing why you feel that the Gengarite should be Uber or OU. This topic will be left open until whatever point we feel the discussion has reached its conclusion.
Yes, I totally ripped off Jabba's post. Note that the thread has been posted in the Policy Review subforum as well.
RBG Edit: adding post 383 to the front post so people don't have to search for it
After reading the last 10 pages of this thread I think I should make clear that its purpose is not to let everyone express their philosophical approach to the tiering process, but rather to gather information on how Mega Gengar's presence in the metagame is perceived by the playerbase. If you're going to vote "no" just because you, ontologically, believe that M-Gengar's "brokenness" should be proved via a formal suspect test, then you're really missing the point of this thread.
While the pro-ban side has made numerous extremely solid arguments to support their stance, the only relevant anti-ban argument I've seen so far is contained in this post. You're being given the opportunity to potentially influence our final decision and many of you are wasting it by making posts on how quick bans don't match their banning philosophy. For those who think that "the community has nothing to lose" from running a formal suspect test, I really advise that you read the post below:
Finally, since probably many of you weren't around when this thread was posted, I strongly suggest that you take a look at it, paying particular attention to the "support characteristic":
Also consider that, from a competitive standpoint, trapping abilities like Shadow Tag are seen with immense disfavor, as they generally take out skill from the game. To put things into perspective, I should let everyone know that at a certain point during the B/W era, a (very) vocal minority of the community started to advocate a suspect test for ST Gothitelle which, clearly, isn't even remotely comparable to Mega Gengar in terms of stats and support movepool.
That said, I invite everyone to tone down a little and to focus more on the topic of this thread, rather than on irrelevant side arguments.
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