Alright everyone, there is a slight update to the restricted Pokemon banlist. I actually made the initial ban list by myself and wasn't sure on which mon that was usable but then banned from OU could be unbanned. Originally I thought that mons with signature moves can be unbanned because they had to sacrifice it to use the OM's mechanic which I thought would be enough to keep them around. But over time I think that it's probably not enough of a nerf for two reasons; the first being that even ignoring the OM mechanics, these mons with their signature moves will be amazing anyways. For example, Magearna with Fleur Cannon or Urshifu with the crit moves. Secondly, even outside their signature moves, these mons tend to have good typing, stat distribution, ability and BST anyways so even if they sacrifice their signature moves to transform, they are still going to be good. Anyways now that I have a council, we decided to vote on these mons instead of going only from my thoughts. A mon needed 3 Unban votes to be unbanned.
Also I forgot to add Sneasler when we voted but it's been unbanned but Dire Claw is banned.
Some thoughts on the Unrestricted mons:
I think you should still run Rage Fist on this mon but I think it's balanced since you can't transform. You can also just die faster since Ubers hit harder.
Honestly very close but I was willing to give it a chance. Definitely a top contender to be banned later though.
Probably one of the best mons unbanned, this thing is super fast and hits really hard.
Another extremely good mon, everyone knows how strong this is with Sheer Force + Life Orb. I voted unban because it loses Sheer Force after forme change so you're stuck with the LO recoil and it's not very fast initially.
Really needs to Tera and have Ivy Cudgel to be "broken", so I don't think its that good.
(Rapid) Honestly this mon along with Baxcalibur, Iron Bundle and Landorus might be banned down the line. I think you just run Surging Strikes and call it a day but I'll give it a chance.
Very good mon as well but it's probably fine without Dire Claw. Might be my famous last words.
Some thought for Restricted mons:
I think this mon would be uncompetitive thanks to Speed Boost, Calm Mind, Stored Power and Terastallization. It already did this in OU but here it's even worse because it can become an Arceus or Mewtwo.
Probably just too good because of insane typing and bulk. You can either run Fleur Cannon or use Dazzling Gleam or Draining Kiss and turn into Arceus or Flutter Mane.
This mon is just good as is, it's basically an Uber mon that requires you to switch out once or use Flip Turn. I think you just run Jet Punch and don't bother with turning this into another mon.
I was debating this since the votes are not decisive but I decided to keep it banned because I think it forces every team to run a ground type that can take Ice Tera Blast.
(Single) Unlike the other Urshifu, this mon can run SD/CC//U-turn with Crunch and turn into Koraidon. The Rapid Urshifu is already on the fence but I think this one is over the edge.
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(Rapid) | Unban | Unban | Ban | Ban | Unban | Unrestricted |
(Single) | Ban | Ban | Ban | Ban | Unban | Restricted |
Also I forgot to add Sneasler when we voted but it's been unbanned but Dire Claw is banned.
Some thoughts on the Unrestricted mons:
I think you should still run Rage Fist on this mon but I think it's balanced since you can't transform. You can also just die faster since Ubers hit harder.
Honestly very close but I was willing to give it a chance. Definitely a top contender to be banned later though.
Probably one of the best mons unbanned, this thing is super fast and hits really hard.
Another extremely good mon, everyone knows how strong this is with Sheer Force + Life Orb. I voted unban because it loses Sheer Force after forme change so you're stuck with the LO recoil and it's not very fast initially.
Really needs to Tera and have Ivy Cudgel to be "broken", so I don't think its that good.
(Rapid) Honestly this mon along with Baxcalibur, Iron Bundle and Landorus might be banned down the line. I think you just run Surging Strikes and call it a day but I'll give it a chance.
Very good mon as well but it's probably fine without Dire Claw. Might be my famous last words.
Some thought for Restricted mons:
I think this mon would be uncompetitive thanks to Speed Boost, Calm Mind, Stored Power and Terastallization. It already did this in OU but here it's even worse because it can become an Arceus or Mewtwo.
Probably just too good because of insane typing and bulk. You can either run Fleur Cannon or use Dazzling Gleam or Draining Kiss and turn into Arceus or Flutter Mane.
This mon is just good as is, it's basically an Uber mon that requires you to switch out once or use Flip Turn. I think you just run Jet Punch and don't bother with turning this into another mon.
I was debating this since the votes are not decisive but I decided to keep it banned because I think it forces every team to run a ground type that can take Ice Tera Blast.
(Single) Unlike the other Urshifu, this mon can run SD/CC//U-turn with Crunch and turn into Koraidon. The Rapid Urshifu is already on the fence but I think this one is over the edge.