Hello again, fancy seeing you here. The ORAS ZU survey has now ended so I guess its time to present the results. But before that I just want to thank the 16 users who filled out the survey! Your feedback was valuable and will help steer ORAS ZU in the right direction going forward. Now without further ado onto the results!
On a scale of 1-10. How much do you enjoy playing the current ORAS ZU metagame?
On a scale of 1-10. How much do you enjoy building in the current ORAS ZU metagame?
On a scale of 1-10. How competitive do you find the current ORAS ZU metagame?
Which statement most accurately describes how you feel about Regigigas in ORAS ZU?
Reasoning for your choice on Regigigas
The reasoning for the support of tiering action for Regigigas was largely due to its strain on teambuilding. Its ability to Subsitute on a large part of the meta due to its fantastic natural bulk and completely invalidate passive teams was seen as unheathy and warping the tier into a offensive playstyle to keep it in check. Tailored defensive counterplay does exist however, such as Rest, Iron Defence Carbink and Gourgeist-Large. But this is where another problem arises with its moveset variance, Power-up Punch has been picking up steam recently,allowing Regigigas to break through Carbink whereas Toxic Regigigas can win vs Gourgiest-Large. Giving non consistent counterplay. Its utility moves in Thunder-wave and Knock off were also seen as concerning nothing can safely switch in was seen as problematic when Regigigas forces you to switch to check it immediately to prevent it from setting up. Lastly a number of responders just though it was really annoying an unfun to face taking their enjoyment out of the tier.
On the other hand, reasoning for not having tiering action on Regigigas included the mon being tricky to actually build around, and needing team support to function as you usually want to preserve its heath as much as possible. It was also seen as balanced in a tour environment. Which is consistent with the respondents wanting tiering action. Nobody was arguing Regigigas is broken, it doesn't auto win if you use it, and isn't as good as other threats/wincons. The general general consensus is that tiering action should take place as it is seen as unhealthy for the tier.
Which statement most accurately describes how you feel about Simisage in ORAS ZU?
Reasoning for your choice on Simisage
The general consensus on Simisage is that whilst it is a fantastic breaker, with huge set variety and coverage moves, none of the sets are too strong on their own. Simisage cant run all its coverage moves it wants on the same set so it has to pick and choose its matchups. Leading to sufficient counterplay options. On top of that, being somewhat frail and pure grass type means it can sometimes be hard for Simisage to get onto the field as it provides little to none defensive presence. The arguments for having tiering action were mainly how on versatile Simisage is, with concerns that scouting its sets was seen as too hard and risky given the fact you could be giving Simisage a free Nasty Plot or just losing a mon if predicted the wrong set.
Which statement most accurately describes how you feel about Simipour in ORAS ZU?
Reasoning for your choice on Simipour
Simipour was generally seen as the less threatening monkey with a larger number of defensive checks and counters such as Politoad, Dustox, Servine, Gogoat and Meganium. In addition to a bunch of offensive meta stables in Electabuzz, Purugly, and Jumpluff. However thanks to its better typing in pure water it does have an easier time getting on the field and more setup opportunities than Simisage. Simipour's reliance on Hydro Pump and Life Orb for a high damage output were also seen as limiting as well. Pro tiering action responses included once again that set variety could be problematic as well as that Simipour does have the coverage tools in Ice Beam and Hidden Power Grass to break through its Grass and water type checks once weakened.
Do you have any thoughts on retesting any of the current Pokemon in ZUBL?
If so, which Pokemon do you believe should be addressed and why?
For this question it was unanimously decided that Fraxure should not be retested. Fraxure is just too Strong for ORAS ZU with not enough counterplay. Simisear had a handful of responses stating they would be open to a potential retesting with responses including that they don't see how its better than the other Simis and with removal not being great, Steah Rock weakness could keep it in check. The majority of respondents however felt it should be kept ZUBL, with reasonings such as it would furthermore increase the strain on teambuilding, that its just a better Magmar and that its broken and unbalanced in general.
Are there any Pokemon not already mentioned you would like council to look into, and if so why?
Overwhelming majority of people thought nothing else needs to be looked into. Purugly was mentioned twice, with reasoning mainly due to its great speed tier, access to Knock off coupled with Defiant making the hazard war difficult. Electabuzz also had a mention, stating that its ability to break through Ground-types was problematic.
If tiering action is planned for any of these Pokemon, which methods would you prefer?
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Thanks again to everybody who responded and making this survey possible and worthwhile! There has been an overwhelming amount of support for tiering action on Regigigas with over 70% of respondents, so look out for that in the near future. As for the tiering method, voters based off tournament success will definitely be included and be the majority of the voting pool, as justified by the survey results. However, there were some concerns that because of the lack of recent tournaments (none since August 2021) newer players are missing out on having any input. Currently ORAS council are thinking that players who made Semis or higher in ORAS Cup or played in at least 3 games, whilst winning at least 1 in ZUPL in the past 2 years will get voting requirements. We are open to and encourage feedback and discussion, so let us know what you think about this proposal.
Voters (15): 5gen, a fruitshop owner, Aaronboyer, Alkione, DnB, Drud, gorex, Haund, missangelic, S1nn0hC0nfirm3d, Thiago Nunes, Toto, TWiTT, Watashi, zS