Data Usage-Based Tier Update for July 2018 (Aug @ #84) (Sep @ #138)

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Did I miss the decision to make quick drops happen because of 1 month usage instead of a 3 months average or was it always like that ?
Tier shifts have always had regular tier shifts happen every 3 months with quick drops between the regular shifts
 
Tier shifts have always had regular tier shifts happen every 3 months with quick drops between the regular shifts
That's not what I meant to ask. I noticed that the OU stats Antar posted earlier are exactly those of July instead of an average of May, June and July.

Digging deeper it seems it's also the case for uu but not for ru and nu. Unfortunately I don't have my computer with me to double check if these last 2 are well calculated too
 
Predicted

RISES
Mesprit: PU - NU
Pyroar: PU - NU
Spiritomb: PU - NU
Ninetales: PU - RU
Torkoal: PU - RU
Qwilfish: PU - RU
Minior: NU - RU
Mismagius: NU - RU
Kingdra: NUBL - RU
Venusaur: NUBL - RU
Kabutops: PU - UU
Audino-Mega: NU - UU
Abomasnow: NUBL - UU
Blastoise-Mega: RU - UU
Alomomola: UU - OU
Gengar: UU - OU
Heracross-Mega: UUBL - OU
Latias-Mega UUBL - OU
Weavile: UUBL - OU

DROPS
Mimikyu: OU - UU
Arcanine: UU - RU
Jolteon: RU - NU
Ambipom: NU - PU
Hitmontop: NU - PU
Clawitzer: NU - PUBL*

*PU is not the best option for Clawitzer but Clawitzer is also kinda mediocre in NU.
 
Predicted

RISES
Mesprit: PU - NU
Pyroar: PU - NU
Spiritomb: PU - NU
Ninetales: PU - RU
Torkoal: PU - RU
Qwilfish: PU - RU
Minior: NU - RU
Mismagius: NU - RU
Kingdra: NUBL - RU
Venusaur: NUBL - RU
Kabutops: PU - UU
Audino-Mega: NU - UU
Abomasnow: NUBL - UU
Blastoise-Mega: RU - UU
Alomomola: UU - OU
Gengar: UU - OU
Heracross-Mega: UUBL - OU
Latias-Mega UUBL - OU
Weavile: UUBL - OU

DROPS
Mimikyu: OU - UU
Arcanine: UU - RU
Jolteon: RU - NU
Ambipom: NU - PU
Hitmontop: NU - PU
Clawitzer: NU - PUBL*

*PU is not the best option for Clawitzer but Clawitzer is also kinda mediocre in NU.
Pretty bad predictions to be honest, Mesprit, Pyroar, Qwilfish, Minior, Mismagius, Kabutops, Audino, Abomasnow, Alomomola, Venu, Spiritomb, Mesprit, Torkoal... Just rises in general holy sh*t nothing of this is gonna happen. Almost looks like you are trolling.

Drops look OK I guess but Mimikyu dropping won't happen either
 

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RISES
Mesprit: PU - NU
Pyroar: PU - NU
Spiritomb: PU - NU
Ninetales: PU - RU
Torkoal: PU - RU
Qwilfish: PU - RU
Minior: NU - RU
Mismagius: NU - RU
Kingdra: NUBL - RU
Venusaur: NUBL - RU
Kabutops: PU - UU
Audino-Mega: NU - UU
Abomasnow: NUBL - UU
Blastoise-Mega: RU - UU
Alomomola: UU - OU
Gengar: UU - OU
none of those are going to happen lol
 
Pretty bad predictions to be honest, Mesprit, Pyroar, Qwilfish, Minior, Mismagius, Kabutops, Audino, Abomasnow, Alomomola, Venu, Spiritomb, Mesprit, Torkoal... Just rises in general holy sh*t nothing of this is gonna happen. Almost looks like you are trolling.

Drops look OK I guess but Mimikyu dropping won't happen either
Mismagius does better in RU than NU.
 
Mismagius does better in RU than NU.
Tiers are based on usage, not viability. Even if you would justify your predictions by viability, most of your statements still don't make any sense. For example, Minior is a C-rank in RU and does have 0.245% usage. And you expect it to rise? It is quite hard to find a more unrealistic prediction than that one...
 
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You know you could actually attack my argument instead of my language. Also you can reply to everyone in a single post.
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Might as well attack your supposed UU rises while I'm at it.
Kabutops is outclassed by Azelf (and Mamoswine) as a Suicide lead, and outclassed as a offensive water type by just about every offensive water type in UU and RU.
The only thing that stands out about MAudino is Healer, but that's more gimmicky than Fury Cutter Scizor so it might as well have nothing that stands out about it. Plus it's outclassed by the ubiquitous AloBliss core at stalling stuff.
MAbomasnow actually has a semi-notable niche in being the most offensive hail-setter UU can offer, however it's mostly outclassed by Aurorus being that it has the ability to set up stealth rock for Aurora Veil teams, making Aurorus crucial to add if you want to build Aurora Veil, whereas MAbomasnow is not nearly as necessary. It also suffers from having glacial speed and a horrifically bad defensive typing that rivals Rock/Fighting and Ice/Ground as the worst defensive typing, basically requiring the team to be built around it as opposed to be built around the Aurorus/ASlash core most Aurora Veil teams are built around.
 
Predicted

RISES
Mesprit: PU - NU
Pyroar: PU - NU
Spiritomb: PU - NU
Ninetales: PU - RU
Torkoal: PU - RU
Qwilfish: PU - RU
Minior: NU - RU
Mismagius: NU - RU
Kingdra: NUBL - RU
Venusaur: NUBL - RU
Kabutops: PU - UU
Audino-Mega: NU - UU
Abomasnow: NUBL - UU
Blastoise-Mega: RU - UU
Alomomola: UU - OU
Gengar: UU - OU
Heracross-Mega: UUBL - OU
Latias-Mega UUBL - OU
Weavile: UUBL - OU

DROPS
Mimikyu: OU - UU
Arcanine: UU - RU
Jolteon: RU - NU
Ambipom: NU - PU
Hitmontop: NU - PU
Clawitzer: NU - PUBL*

*PU is not the best option for Clawitzer but Clawitzer is also kinda mediocre in NU.
You made my day with this meme.
 
OK, I fixed my predictions.

RISES
Mesprit: PU - NU
Pyroar: PU - NU
Spiritomb: PU - NU
Ninetales: PU - RU
Torkoal: PU - RU
Qwilfish: PU - RU
Minior: NU - RU
Mismagius: NU - RU
Kingdra: NUBL - RU
Venusaur: NUBL - RU
Audino-Mega: NU - RU
Abomasnow: NUBL - RU
Blastoise-Mega: RU - UU
Gengar: UU - OU
Heracross-Mega: UUBL - OU
Latias-Mega UUBL - OU
Weavile: UUBL - OU

DROPS
Arcanine: UU - RU
Jolteon: RU - NU
Ambipom: NU - PU
Hitmontop: NU - PU
Clawitzer: NU - PUBL*

*PU is not the best option for Clawitzer but Clawitzer is also kinda mediocre in NU.[/QUOTE]
 

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OK, I fixed my predictions.

RISES
Mesprit: PU - NU
Pyroar: PU - NU
Spiritomb: PU - NU
Ninetales: PU - RU
Torkoal: PU - RU
Qwilfish: PU - RU
Minior: NU - RU
Mismagius: NU - RU
Kingdra: NUBL - RU
Venusaur: NUBL - RU
Audino-Mega: NU - RU
Abomasnow: NUBL - RU
Blastoise-Mega: RU - UU
Gengar: UU - OU
Heracross-Mega: UUBL - OU
Latias-Mega UUBL - OU
Weavile: UUBL - OU

DROPS
Arcanine: UU - RU
Jolteon: RU - NU
Ambipom: NU - PU
Hitmontop: NU - PU
Clawitzer: NU - PUBL*

*PU is not the best option for Clawitzer but Clawitzer is also kinda mediocre in NU.
[/QUOTE]
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OK, I fixed my predictions.

RISES
Mesprit: PU - NU
Pyroar: PU - NU
Spiritomb: PU - NU
Ninetales: PU - RU
Torkoal: PU - RU
Qwilfish: PU - RU
Minior: NU - RU
Mismagius: NU - RU
Kingdra: NUBL - RU
Venusaur: NUBL - RU
Audino-Mega: NU - RU
Abomasnow: NUBL - RU
Blastoise-Mega: RU - UU
Gengar: UU - OU
Heracross-Mega: UUBL - OU
Latias-Mega UUBL - OU
Weavile: UUBL - OU

DROPS
Arcanine: UU - RU
Jolteon: RU - NU
Ambipom: NU - PU
Hitmontop: NU - PU
Clawitzer: NU - PUBL*

*PU is not the best option for Clawitzer but Clawitzer is also kinda mediocre in NU.
 
OK, I fixed my predictions.

RISES
Mesprit: PU - NU
Pyroar: PU - NU
Spiritomb: PU - NU
Ninetales: PU - RU
Torkoal: PU - RU
Qwilfish: PU - RU
Minior: NU - RU
Mismagius: NU - RU
Kingdra: NUBL - RU
Venusaur: NUBL - RU
Audino-Mega: NU - RU
Abomasnow: NUBL - RU
Blastoise-Mega: RU - UU
Gengar: UU - OU
Heracross-Mega: UUBL - OU
Latias-Mega UUBL - OU
Weavile: UUBL - OU

DROPS
Arcanine: UU - RU
Jolteon: RU - NU
Ambipom: NU - PU
Hitmontop: NU - PU
Clawitzer: NU - PUBL*

*PU is not the best option for Clawitzer but Clawitzer is also kinda mediocre in NU.
if ur gonna make predictions actually post something that's likely to happen, such as reuniclus rising to ou

read the olt and metagame discussion threads pls
 
OK, I fixed my predictions.

RISES
Mesprit: PU - NU
Pyroar: PU - NU
Spiritomb: PU - NU
Ninetales: PU - RU
Torkoal: PU - RU
Qwilfish: PU - RU
Minior: NU - RU
Mismagius: NU - RU
Kingdra: NUBL - RU
Venusaur: NUBL - RU
Audino-Mega: NU - RU
Abomasnow: NUBL - RU
Blastoise-Mega: RU - UU
Gengar: UU - OU
Heracross-Mega: UUBL - OU
Latias-Mega UUBL - OU
Weavile: UUBL - OU

DROPS
Arcanine: UU - RU
Jolteon: RU - NU
Ambipom: NU - PU
Hitmontop: NU - PU
Clawitzer: NU - PUBL*

*PU is not the best option for Clawitzer but Clawitzer is also kinda mediocre in NU.
[/QUOTE]
There's only like three of these that even make sense maybe not even.
 
OK, I fixed my predictions.

RISES
Mesprit: PU - NU
Pyroar: PU - NU
Spiritomb: PU - NU
Ninetales: PU - RU
Torkoal: PU - RU
Qwilfish: PU - RU
Minior: NU - RU
Mismagius: NU - RU
Kingdra: NUBL - RU
Venusaur: NUBL - RU
Audino-Mega: NU - RU
Abomasnow: NUBL - RU
Blastoise-Mega: RU - UU
Gengar: UU - OU
Heracross-Mega: UUBL - OU
Latias-Mega UUBL - OU
Weavile: UUBL - OU

DROPS
Arcanine: UU - RU
Jolteon: RU - NU
Ambipom: NU - PU
Hitmontop: NU - PU
Clawitzer: NU - PUBL*

*PU is not the best option for Clawitzer but Clawitzer is also kinda mediocre in NU.
[/QUOTE]
Also at if ur gonna make some predicts at least give reasons for why. Like I get some like Arcanine moving to RU but still. Why is alom and gengar going to OU ? Yeah I hope next time you 'fix' your predictions they are detailed at the very least.
 
OK, I fixed my predictions.

RISES
Mesprit: PU - NU
Pyroar: PU - NU
Spiritomb: PU - NU
Ninetales: PU - RU
Torkoal: PU - RU
Qwilfish: PU - RU
Minior: NU - RU
Mismagius: NU - RU
Kingdra: NUBL - RU
Venusaur: NUBL - RU
Audino-Mega: NU - RU
Abomasnow: NUBL - RU
Blastoise-Mega: RU - UU
Gengar: UU - OU
Heracross-Mega: UUBL - OU
Latias-Mega UUBL - OU
Weavile: UUBL - OU

DROPS
Arcanine: UU - RU
Jolteon: RU - NU
Ambipom: NU - PU
Hitmontop: NU - PU
Clawitzer: NU - PUBL*

*PU is not the best option for Clawitzer but Clawitzer is also kinda mediocre in NU.
>Implying Arcanine is ever going to get low enough usage in UU to drop.

Also, what changed in NU for half of that to happen? Because PU is going to be flipped upside-down if any of that actually, unironically happens barring maybe Pyroar since that thing is likely to get suspected after Kingler goes.
 
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