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Tornadus @ Covert Cloak / Sitrus Berry
Ability: Prankster
Tera Type: Steel / Ghost / Dark
EVs: 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Bleakwind Storm
- Tailwind
- Taunt / Rain Dance / Sunny Day
- Protect

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Prankster works in conjunction with Tailwind to enable Tornadus to set nearly uncontested speed control. This allows it to ensure that its teammates can move first and remove or cripple threats before they can move.
  • Bleakwind Storm is Tornadus' STAB option, and allows Tornadus to take on an active role after its set up all of its support moves. This prevents Tornadus from being a "dead" option that needs to be switched out after Tailwind is set up and it's already used or doesn't need to use its support moves.
  • Taunt is the best option in this slot on most teams, as it can disrupt the opponents ability to use status moves, effectively crippling support options and ameliorating the risk of an opponent setting up or inflicting status. However, priority Rain Dance and Sunny Day can be a strong option for teams that are more weather dependent.
  • Protect allows Tornadus to survive an extra turn and delay setting up Tailwind. This can be particularly useful in some Tailwind mirrors, as setting Tailwind a turn later can allow for an extra turn where you have Tailwind and the opponent doesn't. If needed, this slot can be used for weather setting as well, but losing Protect can make it significantly more difficult for Tornadus to survive to set Tailwind multiple times throughout the match.
  • Covert Cloak prevents Tornadus from losing the vital first turn of speed control by stopping opponents from inflicting flinches with Fake Out. Note that Covert Cloak and Tera Ghost should not be used together since they effectively do the same thing. Sitrus Berry can be used to boost Tornadus' long term survivability, allowing it to set Tailwind multiple times per match.
  • Tera Ghost and Tera Dark both prevent opponents from disrupting Tornadus' support options by blocking Fake Out or by blocking Prankster Taunt, respectively. Tera Steel, on the other hand is an excellent defensive type, and boosts Tornadus' survivability by giving it a resistance to Rock and Ice. //Rock for glimm, boulder, diancie, and Ice for bax, electric for thund and raging.
  • Tornadus' bulk allows it to survive significantly more than the other Prankster Tailwind setters. This set takes full advantage of Tornadus' bulk by allowing it to survive a Power Gem from Timid Glimmora, and dumping the rest into defense. //This probably needs more discussion, I'll look into the set later.
  • Tornadus pairs best with offensive threats that can remove threats quickly by moving first. Fast Pokemon like Flutter Mane and Deoxys Attack enjoy being able to outspeed Scarfed Pokemon and move first in the mirror match, LOL LMAO where as offensive threats that are slower such as Chi Yu and Gholdengo can take advantage of the boosted speed to outspeed major threats. //This section needs to be rewritten holy moly.
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Tornadus @ Covert Cloak / Sitrus Berry
Ability: Prankster
Tera Type: Steel / Ghost / Dark
EVs: 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Bleakwind Storm
- Tailwind
- Taunt / Rain Dance / Sunny Day
- Protect

[SET COMMENTS]
  • no overview?
  • Prankster works in conjunction with Tailwind to enable Tornadus to set nearly uncontested speed control. This allows it to ensure that its teammates can move first and remove or cripple threats. before they can move. this sentence can be made into an overview if you want and focus on generally how it has a strong utility kit with a ton of options etc.
  • we should either follow the moveset order or change it so bleakwind is here or moved down in the set above imo
  • Taunt is the best option in this slot on most teams, as it can disrupt the opponents ability to use status moves, effectively crippling support options and ameliorating the risk of an opponent setting up or inflicting status. However, priority Rain Dance and Sunny Day can be a strong option for teams that are more weather dependent.
  • Protect allows Tornadus to survive an extra turn and delay setting up Tailwind. This can be particularly useful in some Tailwind mirrors, as setting Tailwind a turn later can allow for an extra turn where you have Tailwind and the opponent doesn't. this slot is often used for a weather move too, optional add
  • Bleakwind Storm is Tornadus' STAB option, and allows Tornadus to take on an active role after its set up all of its support moves. This prevents Tornadus from being a "dead" option that needs to be switched out after Tailwind is set up and it's already used or doesn't need to use its support moves.
  • Covert Cloak prevents Tornadus from losing the vital first turn of speed control by stopping opponents from inflicting flinches with Fake Out. Note that Covert Cloak and Tera Ghost should not be used together since they effectively do the same thing. while this is true in some senses, cloak is much less opportunity cost than spending tera and that's why it's the preferred item, can do a bit more here to illustrate this Sitrus Berry can be used to boost Tornadus' long term survivability, allowing it to set Tailwind multiple times per match.
  • Tornadus' bulk allows it to survive significantly more more what? than the other Prankster Tailwind setters. This set takes full advantage of Tornadus' bulk by allowing it to survive a Power Gem from Timid Glimmora, I think that since meteor beam is the new thing we might need to find a different mention, can have a longer discussion over discord just ping me and dumping the rest into defense.
  • Tornadus pairs best with offensive threats that can remove threats quickly by moving first. Fast Pokemon like Flutter Mane and Deoxys Attack enjoy being able to outspeed Scarfed Pokemon and move first in the mirror match, where as offensive threats that are slower such as Chi Yu and Gholdengo can take advantage of the boosted speed to outspeed major threats. this is a little vague, I'd like to see an example of a scarfed mon it can outspeed, same goes for chi/gho. I think concrete examples are quite helpful in this sense
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info on why tera dark/steel are good would be useful to have, particularly dark on this set due to it not being invested in speed at all and having a tough time with the torn mirror if opposing taunt

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