Monotype Torn doesn't kill (Flying) [QC: 2/2] [GP: 0/1]

[Pengairxan]

[SET]
Tornadus-Therian @ Assault Vest
Name: Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 44 SpA / 216 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Heat Wave
- Knock Off
- U-turn

[SET COMMENTS]
Assault Vest Tornadus-T serves a key role on Flying teams as a great defensive piece thanks its solid bulk, especially when paired with Regenerator. Hurricane is Tornadus-T's main STAB move of choice, since its solid damage output is able to remove threats like Iron Valiant, Urshifu-R, and Ogerpon formes with ease. Heat Wave allows Tornadus-T to handle Steel-types that would otherwise wall it like Gholdengo and Corviknight while also dealing solid damage to Ice-types such as Alolan Ninetales. Knock Off allows Tornadus-T to remove items on incoming special walls such as Hisuian Goodra and Blissey along with special attackers like Latios and Dragapult. Finally, U-turn allows for Tornadus-T to deal chip damage as it pivots out along with being able to escape from trapping moves from the likes of Toxapex, Heatran, and Pecharunt. Tornadus-T's Special Attack investment is required to KO Ogerpon-W and Ogerpon-H consistently, and the rest of its EV investment goes into HP and Speed to give it as much bulk as possible and outspeed Iron Valiant.

Tornadus-T majorly appreciates Corviknight being able to remove Stealth Rock, which allows it to get the most out of Regenerator. Corviknight also helps Tornadus-T by taking out threats like Greninja and Flutter Mane, while Corviknight appreciates the removal of its foes' held items like Rocky Helmet. Skarmory also appreciates Tornadus-T removing Rocky Helmets, allowing Body Press to do as much damage as possible against Ice- and Rock-types that threaten Tornadus-T like Chien-Pao and Iron Boulder. Skarmory can also set entry hazards to help with Tornadus-T's offense. Gliscor's Ground typing and Poison Heal ability allow it to soak up both Electric-type attacks and status moves from the likes of Regieleki, Sandy Shocks, and Clodsire and easily remove them with Earthquake, making Tornadus-T's pivoting much safer. Dragonite appreciates Tornadus-T's ability to soften up teams by removing key threats like Ogerpon-H while staying healthy, (ac) which can allow for Dragonite to have an easier time sweeping with Dragon Dance late-game to remove dangerous targets like Raging Bolt. Choice Scarf Enamorus supports Tornadus-T by being able to check faster threats like Dragapult, Walking Wake, and Greninja with ease.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Bleakwind Storm provides a slightly safer STAB option that hits targets like Iron Valiant more reliably than Hurricane, but its weaker power makes it miss out on crucial KOs, notably being unable to kill any of the Ogerpon formes without prior chip. Sludge Wave provides an attack that doesn't have to worry about accuracy, making it good for picking off weakened targets like Iron Valiant, Enamorus, and Alolan Ninetales. However, it comes with the drawback of making Tornadus-T unable to hit Steel-types for good neutral damage. Focus Blast's high power is great at KOing monsters like Archaludon and Kingambit, buts its low accuracy makes it very risky.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/pengairxan.622813/
Quality Checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/boomp.637295/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/neko.542526/
Grammar Checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/techno.527276/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/ken.594478/

 

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[SET]
Tornadus-Therian @ Assault Vest
Name: Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 44 SpA / 216 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Heat Wave / Focus Blast
- Knock Off
- U-turn

[SET COMMENTS]
Tornadus-Therian serves a key role on Flying-type teams as a great defensive piece thanks its solid bulk especially espessically when paired boosted with Regenerator and an Assault Vest. Hurricane is the main STAB of choice thanks to its solid damage output able to remove threats like Iron Valiant, Urshifu-R, and the Ogerpon forms formes with ease. Heat Wave and Focus Blast both allow for Tornadus-T to not be completely walled by Steel-types and both do solid damage into Ice-types. Heat Wave is more consistent and melts foes such as Alolan Ninetales and physically defensive Corviknight while Focus Blast's high power is great at deleting monsters like Archaludon and Kingambit Heatran. Knock off allows for Tornadus-T Tornadus-t to make general progress against bulkier targets it can't do much against like Clodsire, Hisuian Goodra and Blissey.(Reading this, I dont understand how it makes general progress, especially against these mons who just wall/weaken torn via status and coverage moves. Honestly just generalize what knock off do via removing items.) Finally U-turn allows for Tornadus-T to deal meaningful chip damage as it pivots out along with being able to escape from trapping moves from the likes of Toxapex, Heatran, and Pecharunt.

Tornadus-T majorly appreciates appreicates Corviknight being able and its abilty to remove Stealth Rocks allowing for Tornadus-T Tornadus to get the most out of Regenerator along with helping to take on Ice-type threats like Mamoswine, Baxcalibur, and Chien-Pao while Corviknight appreciates appreicates the removal of held items like allowing its Iron Heads to not take Rocky Helmet chip.(Break this into two sentences, end the first where you say most out of regenrator. Then say Coviknight also helps Tornadus-T by taking out Ice-type threats....) Skarmory also appreciates similar appreicates the removal of Rocky Helmet allowing Body Press its Body Presses to do as much as possible against the Ice- and Rock-types that scare Tornadus-T Tornadus like Baxcalibur, Chien-Pao, and Iron Boulder. Gliscor's Ground-typing and Toxic Heal ability allow it to soak up both Electric-type attacks and Toxic status moves(We do not want Gliscor to get Wisp ;w;) from the likes Magnezone, Sandy Shocks, and Clodsire and easily remove them with Earthquake making Tornadus-T's pivoting much safer. Articuno compliments Tornadus-T by being a special wall able to fend off threats like Gastrodon, and Kingdra which Tornadus-T dislike while Tornadus-T Heat Wave Heat Waves and Focus Blast Focus Blasts can rip through the Steel-, and Ice-types that would otherwise switch into Articuno's Ice-type STAB. Dragonite appreicates Tornadus-T ability to soften up teams while staying healthy which can allow for Dragonite to have an easier time sweeping with Dragon Dance in the late game. Choice Scarf Enamorus supports Tornadus-T by being able to check Dragon-types like Dragapult, Roaring Moon, and Latias with ease.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Flying (Dont need to mention flying. torn can only be on flying.)
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Bleakwind Storm provides a slightly safer STAB option which hits targets like Iron Valiant more reliably than Hurricane, but its weaker power makes it miss out on crucial kills, notably being unable to kill any of the Ogerpon formes formes without prior chip. Sludge Wave provides a special attack that doesn't have to worry about accuracy making it good for picking of weakened targets like Iron Valiant, Enamorus, and Alolan Ninetales. However it comes with the notably draw backs of making Tornadus-T Tornadus unable to hit Steel-types for good neutral damage.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/pengairxan.622813/
Flying Analysis by: (Dont need this part as well, its only on flying.)
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/pengairxan.622813/
Quality Checked by:
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Grammar Checked by:
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Will take a look after these implements. TY

 

[Pengairxan]

Boomp I summon you again in attack position this time.
Also Gliscor's toxic already popped, don't worry about it :)

 

[boomp]

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Listen Torn-T is fine

[SET]
Tornadus-Therian @ Assault Vest
Name: Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 44 SpA / 216 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Heat Wave / Focus Blast
- Knock Off
- U-turn

[SET COMMENTS]
Tornadus-T serves a key role on Flying teams as a great defensive piece thanks its solid bulk especially when paired with Regenerator and an Assault Vest. Hurricane is the main STAB of choice thanks to its solid damage output able to remove threats like Iron Valiant, Urshifu-R, and the Ogerpon forms with ease. Heat Wave and Focus Blast both allow for Tornadus-T to not be completely walled by Steel-types and both do solid damage into Ice-types. Heat Wave is more consistent and melts foes such as Alolan Ninetales and physically defensive Corviknight while Focus Blast's high power is great at deleting monsters like Archaludon and Kingambit. Knock off allows Tornadus-T to remove items on special walls switching in such as Hisuian Goodra and Blissey. Finally U-turn allows for Tornadus-T to deal chip damage as it pivots out along with being able to escape from trapping moves from the likes of Toxapex, Heatran, and Pecharunt.

Tornadus-T majorly appreciates Corviknight being able to remove Stealth Rocks allowing for Tornadus-T to get the most out of Regenerator. Corviknight also helps Tornadus-T by taking out Ice-type threats like Mamoswine, Baxcalibur, and Chien-Pao while Corviknight appreciates the removal of held items like Rocky Helmet.(Break this into two sentences, end the first where you say most out of regenrator. Then say Coviknight also helps Tornadus-T by taking out Ice-type threats....) (removed comment) Skarmory also appreciates the removal of Rocky Helmet allowing Body Press its Body Presses to do as much as possible against the Ice- and Rock-types that scare Tornadus-T like Baxcalibur, Chien-Pao, and Iron Boulder. Gliscor's Ground-typing and Toxic Heal ability allow it to soak up both Electric-type attacks and status moves from the likes Magnezone, Sandy Shocks, and Clodsire and easily remove them with Earthquake making Tornadus-T's pivoting much safer. Articuno compliments Tornadus-T by being a special wall able to fend off threats like Gastrodon, and Kingdra which Tornadus-T dislikes. In return while Tornadus-T's Heat Wave and Focus Blast can rip through the Steel-, and Ice-types that would otherwise switch into Articuno's Ice-type STAB. Dragonite appreicates Tornadus-T ability to soften up teams while staying healthy which can allow for Dragonite to have an easier time sweeping with Dragon Dance in the late game. Choice Scarf Enamorus supports Tornadus-T by being able to check Dragon-types like Dragapult, Roaring Moon, and Latias with ease.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Bleakwind Storm provides a slightly safer STAB option which hits targets like Iron Valiant more reliably than Hurricane, but its weaker power makes it miss out on crucial kills, notably being unable to kill any of the Ogerpon forms formes without prior chip. Sludge Wave provides a special attack that doesn't have to worry about accuracy making it good for picking of weakened targets like Iron Valiant, Enamorus, and Alolan Ninetales. However it comes with the notably draw backs of making Tornadus-T unable to hit Steel-types for good neutral damage.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/pengairxan.622813/
Quality Checked by:
???
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Grammar Checked by:
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QC1/2 after implements. Well done!

 

[Neko]

Torn t is a fraud >:(

[SET]
Tornadus-Therian @ Assault Vest
Name: Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 44 SpA / 216 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Heat Wave / Focus Blast (move focus blast to other options, hafta hit ghold well enough)
- Knock Off
- U-turn

[SET COMMENTS]
Assault Vest Tornadus-T serves a key role on Flying teams as a great defensive piece thanks its solid bulk especially when paired with Regenerator and an Assault Vest (would be nice to mention as early as here as what spattackers it sort of deals with). Hurricane is the main STAB of choice thanks to its solid damage output able to remove threats like Iron Valiant, Urshifu-R, and the Ogerpon forms with ease. Heat Wave and Focus Blast both allow for Tornadus-T to not be completely walled by Steel-types and both do solid damage into Ice-types. Heat Wave is more consistent and melts foes such as Alolan Ninetales (mention mr.gholdengo here, probably the most important heat wave target meow) and physically defensive Corviknight while Focus Blast's high power is great at deleting monsters like Archaludon and Kingambit (F.Miss moved to oo). Knock off allows Tornadus-T to remove items on special walls switching in such as Hisuian Goodra and Blissey (also removes specs from Latios and Pult as you can eat their hits...and maybe spectrier too if its not wisp). Finally U-turn allows for Tornadus-T to deal chip damage as it pivots out along with being able to escape from trapping moves from the likes of Toxapex, Heatran, and Pecharunt (also works well because regen).
*mention why 216 speed (outspeeds Valiant iirc?)
*the spa was prioritized so that it can have a good chance of killing Ogerpons not C

Tornadus-T majorly appreciates Corviknight being able to remove Stealth Rocks allowing for Tornadus-T to get the most out of Regenerator. Corviknight also helps Tornadus-T by taking out Ice-type threats like Mamoswine, Baxcalibur, and Chien-Pao (isnt this Skarm's Job tho, can mention that its a fairy resist because FM stinky and it takes specs gren ok-ish enough) while Corviknight appreciates the removal of held items like Rocky Helmet. Skarmory also appreciates the removal of Rocky Helmet allowing Body Press to do as much as possible against Ice- and Rock-types that scare Tornadus-T like Baxcalibur, Chien-Pao, and Iron Boulder (also has spikes, cool thing since Torn's damage is kinda...bad). Gliscor's Ground-typing and Toxic Heal ability allow it to soak up both Electric-type attacks and status moves from the likes Magnezone (analytic flash cannon hurts, maybe Regieleki could be a better option?), Sandy Shocks, and Clodsire and easily remove them with Earthquake making Tornadus-T's pivoting much safer. Articuno compliments Tornadus-T by being a special wall able to fend off threats like Gastrodon, and Kingdra which Tornadus-T dislikes (would hold off on cuno since Torn is often a cuno replacement for faster teams if AV iirc). In return Tornadus-T's Heat Wave and Focus Blast can rip through the Steel-, and Ice-types that would otherwise switch into Articuno's Ice-type STAB. Dragonite appreicates Tornadus-T ability to soften up teams while staying healthy which can allow for Dragonite to have an easier time sweeping with Dragon Dance in the late game (it also likes Torn dealing with Moldy Ogerpon-H, and in return deals with Raging Bolt which...laughs at Torn). Choice Scarf Enamorus supports Tornadus-T by being able to check Dragon-types like Dragapult, Roaring Moon, and Latias (these two are often scarfed, so other dragons/darks like walky wake and specs gren might be better) with ease.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Bleakwind Storm provides a slightly safer STAB option which hits targets like Iron Valiant more reliably than Hurricane, but its weaker power makes it miss out on crucial kills, notably being unable to kill any of the Ogerpon formes without prior chip. Sludge Wave provides a special attack that doesn't have to worry about accuracy making it good for picking of weakened targets like Iron Valiant, Enamorus, and Alolan Ninetales. However it comes with the notably draw backs of making Tornadus-T unable to hit Steel-types for good neutral damage.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/pengairxan.622813/
Quality Checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/boomp.637295/
???
Grammar Checked by:
?????

QC 2/2, can meow at catto if you need help implementing this check.
Thank you Pengairxan

 

[Pengairxan]

GP Team I got nothing fancy this time.
Just do cool stuff.

 

[Techno]

hi here's an amcheck, feel free to implement if you'd like :)
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[SET]
Tornadus-Therian @ Assault Vest
Name: Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 44 SpA / 216 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Heat Wave
- Knock Off
- U-turn

[SET COMMENTS]
Assault Vest Tornadus-T serves a key role on Flying teams as a great defensive piece, (ac) thanks its solid bulk, (ac) especially when paired with Regenerator. (removed space before period) Hurricane is the Tornadus-T's main STAB move of choice, (ac) thanks to since its solid damage output is able to remove threats like Iron Valiant, Urshifu-R, and the Ogerpon forms formes with ease. Heat Wave allows for Tornadus-T to not be completely walled by handle Steel-types that would otherwise wall it, like Gholdengo and Corviknight, (ac) and both do while also dealing solid damage into to Ice-types such as Gholdengo, Corviknight, and Alolan Ninetales. Reorganized this sentence a bit - "Ice types such as Gholdengo ..." was a bit confusing Knock off Off allows Tornadus-T to remove items on incoming special walls switching in such as Hisuian Goodra and Blissey along with special attackers like Latios and Dragapult. Finally, (ac) U-turn allows for Tornadus-T to deal chip damage as it pivots out along with being able to escape from trapping moves from the likes of Toxapex, Heatran, and Pecharunt. The Tornadus-T's Special Attack investment is required to drop KO Ogerpon-Wellspring and Ogerpon-Hearthflame consistently, (ac) with and the rest of the its EV investment going in to goes into HP to maximum give it as much bulk as possible and Speed to hit 365 which outspeeds outspeed Iron Valiant.

Tornadus-T majorly appreciates Corviknight being able to remove Stealth Rocks Rock, (ac) allowing for which allows Tornadus-T it to get the most out of Regenerator. Corviknight also helps Tornadus-T by taking out threats like Greninja and Flutter Mane, (ac) while Corviknight appreciates the removal of its foes' held items like Rocky Helmet. Skarmory also appreciates the removal of Tornadus-T removing Rocky Helmets, (ac) allowing Body Press to do as much damage as possible against Ice- and Rock-types that scare threaten Tornadus-T like Chien-Pao and Iron Boulder. (ap) Separated these sentences since hazard setting isn't really being benefitted from rocky helmet removal along with being able to Skarmory can also set entry hazards to help with Tornadus-T's offense. Gliscor's Ground typing (rh) and Toxic Poison Heal ability allow it to soak up both Electric-type attacks and status moves from the likes of Regieleki, Sandy Shocks, and Clodsire and easily remove them with Earthquake, (ac) making Tornadus-T's pivoting much safer. Dragonite appreicates appreciates Tornadus-T's ability to soften up teams by removing key threats like Ogerpon-Hearthflame while staying healthy, (ac) which can allow for Dragonite to have an easier time sweeping with Dragon Dance in the late game to remove dangerous targets like Raging Bolt. Choice Scarf Enamorus supports Tornadus-T by being able to check Dragon-types like Dragapult, Walking Wake, and Greninja with ease. Greninja isn't a dragon type - either remove it or specify "and faster threats" or whatever you meant by it

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Bleakwind Storm provides a slightly safer STAB option which that hits targets like Iron Valiant more reliably than Hurricane, but its weaker power makes it miss out on crucial kills, notably being unable to kill any of the Ogerpon formes without prior chip. Sludge Wave provides a special attack an attack that doesn't have to worry about accuracy, (ac) making it good for picking of weakened targets like Iron Valiant, Enamorus, and Alolan Ninetales. However, (ac) it comes with the notably draw backs drawback of making Tornadus-T unable to hit Steel-types for good neutral damage. Focus Blast Focus Blast's high power is great at deleting KOing monsters like Archaludon and Kingambit, (ac) buts its low accuracy is a high risk makes it very risky.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/pengairxan.622813/
Quality Checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/boomp.637295/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/neko.542526/
Grammar Checked by:
?????

 

[ken]

1/1 GP Team done
same color meanings as amcheck; i'm darker blue/purple, lighter red
will dm techno feedback
added both credits

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[SET]
Tornadus-Therian @ Assault Vest
Name: Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 44 SpA / 216 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Heat Wave
- Knock Off
- U-turn

[SET COMMENTS]
Assault Vest Tornadus-T serves a key role on Flying teams as a great defensive piece thanks its solid bulk, (ac) especially when paired with Regenerator. (removed space before period) Hurricane is the Tornadus-T's main STAB move of choice, (ac) thanks to since its solid damage output is able to remove threats like Iron Valiant, Urshifu-R, and the Ogerpon forms formes with ease. Heat Wave allows for Tornadus-T to not be completely walled by handle Steel-types that would otherwise wall it like Gholdengo and Corviknight and both do while also dealing solid damage into to Ice-types such as Gholdengo, Corviknight, and Alolan Ninetales. Reorganized this sentence a bit - "Ice types such as Gholdengo ..." was a bit confusing Knock off Off allows Tornadus-T to remove items on incoming special walls switching in such as Hisuian Goodra and Blissey along with special attackers like Latios and Dragapult. Finally, (ac) U-turn allows for Tornadus-T to deal chip damage as it pivots out along with being able to escape from trapping moves from the likes of Toxapex, Heatran, and Pecharunt. The Tornadus-T's Special Attack investment is required to drop KO Ogerpon-Wellspring and Ogerpon-Hearthflame consistently, (ac) with and the rest of the its EV investment going in to goes into HP and Speed to maximum give it as much bulk as possible and Speed to hit 365 which outspeeds outspeed Iron Valiant.

Tornadus-T majorly appreciates Corviknight being able to remove Stealth Rocks Rock, (ac) allowing for which allows Tornadus-T it to get the most out of Regenerator. Corviknight also helps Tornadus-T by taking out threats like Greninja and Flutter Mane, (ac) while Corviknight appreciates the removal of its foes' held items like Rocky Helmet. Skarmory also appreciates the removal of Tornadus-T removing Rocky Helmets, (ac) allowing Body Press to do as much damage as possible against Ice- and Rock-types that scare threaten Tornadus-T like Chien-Pao and Iron Boulder. (ap) Separated these sentences since hazard setting isn't really being benefitted from rocky helmet removal along with being able to Skarmory can also set entry hazards to help with Tornadus-T's offense. Gliscor's Ground typing (rh) and Toxic Poison Heal ability allow it to soak up both Electric-type attacks and status moves from the likes of Regieleki, Sandy Shocks, and Clodsire and easily remove them with Earthquake, (ac) making Tornadus-T's pivoting much safer. Dragonite appreicates appreciates Tornadus-T's ability to soften up teams by removing key threats like Ogerpon-Hearthflame while staying healthy, (ac) which can allow for Dragonite to have an easier time sweeping with Dragon Dance in the late-game (ah) to remove dangerous targets like Raging Bolt. Choice Scarf Enamorus supports Tornadus-T by being able to check Dragon-types like Dragapult, Walking Wake, and Greninja with ease. Greninja isn't a dragon type - either remove it or specify "and faster threats" or whatever you meant by it. i agree; something like "Choice Scarf Enamorus supports Tornadus-T by being able to check Dragon-types and faster threats like [...]" like Techno suggested

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Bleakwind Storm provides a slightly safer STAB option which that hits targets like Iron Valiant more reliably than Hurricane, but its weaker power makes it miss out on crucial kills KOs, notably being unable to kill any of the Ogerpon formes without prior chip. Sludge Wave provides a special attack an attack that doesn't have to worry about accuracy, (ac) making it good for picking of off weakened targets like Iron Valiant, Enamorus, and Alolan Ninetales. However, (ac) it comes with the notably draw backs drawback of making Tornadus-T unable to hit Steel-types for good neutral damage. Focus Blast Focus Blast's high power is great at deleting KOing monsters like Archaludon and Kingambit, (ac) buts its low accuracy is a high risk makes it very risky.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/pengairxan.622813/
Quality Checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/boomp.637295/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/neko.542526/
Grammar Checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/techno.527276/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/ken.594478/