Did people forget Pecharunt has Recover and Parting Shot? LOL
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Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]
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Reverse Blissey: Physically bulky, can't hit normal instead of ghost. Its signature move actually kinda sucks, because the pp on a stall mon isn't good.
Budget Glowking
Pecharunt @ Leftovers
Ability: Poison Puppeteer
Tera Type: IDK
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Parting Shot
- Toxic
- Recover
- Hex
Toxic Hex Pshot.
NP Sweeper (sucks, use only for surprise)
Pecharunt @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Ability: Poison Puppeteer
Tera Type: IDK
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Malignant Chain
- Nasty Plot
- Recover
- Shadow Ball
Self Explanatory. Ability can get you free turns if Malignant Chain doesn't KO.
RestTalk Baby Bozo
Pecharunt @ Leftovers
Ability: Poison Puppeteer
Tera Type: IDK
IVs: 0 Atk
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Malignant Chain
- IDK help me
8pp? Nope! This can also help you confusion stall.
(I haven't done EVs for last set, and help me with teras)
Pecharunt @ Leftovers
Ability: Poison Puppeteer
Tera Type: IDK
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Parting Shot
- Toxic
- Recover
- Hex
Toxic Hex Pshot.
NP Sweeper (sucks, use only for surprise)
Pecharunt @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Ability: Poison Puppeteer
Tera Type: IDK
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Malignant Chain
- Nasty Plot
- Recover
- Shadow Ball
Self Explanatory. Ability can get you free turns if Malignant Chain doesn't KO.
RestTalk Baby Bozo
Pecharunt @ Leftovers
Ability: Poison Puppeteer
Tera Type: IDK
IVs: 0 Atk
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Malignant Chain
- IDK help me
8pp? Nope! This can also help you confusion stall.
(I haven't done EVs for last set, and help me with teras)
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CobsonYaoi
formerly Holesum420
Shouldn't Pecharunt be released in OU by now? Correct me if I'm wrong but since it's already programmed into Showdown it shouldn't take very long to do that.
CobsonYaoi
formerly Holesum420
Oh shit I don't know why that wasn't appearing on my browser
I wish they gave Pecharunt Rapid Spin, it looks so round and spinnable…
Damn, this thing is fat to take those super effective hits so well. It might still drop, but it can have a niche in OU.
I can see pecharunt doing defense curl and putting its head in between its two big ear things. I think it would be fun if while it was rolled up, it could use rapid spin but only then.
Pecharunt Stats Breakdown!
Pecharunt Stat | Mon with higher of that stat |
|---|---|
HP:88 | Slowpoke-Galar:90 |
Atk:88 | Grotle:89 |
Def:160 | Its tied 6th best in Def. |
Spa:88 | Crocalor:90 |
Spd:88 | Duskull:90 |
Spe:88 | Poliwag:90 |
BST:600 | It's tied 6th best in BST as well, its OK ig. |
More lore on the Loyal Three's creation:
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One thing to keep in mind for the Pecharunt-Blissey comparisons is that Blissey distributes the fat between two stats. Pecharunt's HP is okay but it's kind of on the low side for a mon that might have to take SE hits while walling unless you invest in it. I feel like it will have its place on some teams but it's going to very much be a "pick what you're doing and commit" mon with its EV spread. It needs speed to keep ahead of some mid-speed Utility mons like Great Tusk, but also would need multiple boosts/Investment to hit Toxic Immuities in a meaningful way, and its SpD is going to remain a weakness to watch for (though thankfully Parting Shot + Ghost typing make it safe from a lot of priority when trying to exit).
Gambit also might have to be cautious of Tera-ing because without Tera Dark it needs +2 to KO Neutral Pecharunt with 5 Allies fainted, which puts a lot more mind-games on his side with Pecharunt outrunning any Adamant set in absence of a Toxic Immunity. The outspeeding also means you can Haze Boosts and avoid anything stronger than +0 every time to stall it out if it has Toxic or just ANY form of continuous chip (rare but something to mention). Honestly a back-up for Tera'd Gambit match-up alone feels like SOMEONE will find a use for it (especially with a resistant Tera like Fighting or Dark) however specific.
Reliable ways to spread Toxic Poison never hurt given we have no Clerics and Item Utility tends to go to stuff like Offense or HDB. One big thing I see for this mon is being your one-stop out to virtually any Toxic-vulnerable Physical Breaker in absence of outright Revenge Kill options. Can also use Haze if it has Boosts to get rid of. Foul Play also exists depending on the target but too lazy to check if it survives AND KO's anything relevant since a lot of sweepers are also pretty fat or resist it, with or without the above considered Dark Tera.
Hex is also not bad as a strong Ghost STAB considering besides its own Toxic, Balance/Defensive teams lean hard into Status to slow down offensive opponents. Makes up for a lack of power if it can't fit NP or investment on your set to speed up the Toxic chip or actually kill a neutered opponent.
tl;dr it's probably RU but I can picture some unironic teams using it because of how Physically fat it is.
Edit: Okay maybe I wasn't TOO lazy. It wants some Chip or might prefer Toxic on a lot of them, but there's some non negligible damage or enough to soften into Priority Range for several.
tl;dr here: Some funny numbers, niche as anything else so maybe consider it if you want a Tera-hungry "No U" option for Physical Sweepers.
Gambit also might have to be cautious of Tera-ing because without Tera Dark it needs +2 to KO Neutral Pecharunt with 5 Allies fainted, which puts a lot more mind-games on his side with Pecharunt outrunning any Adamant set in absence of a Toxic Immunity. The outspeeding also means you can Haze Boosts and avoid anything stronger than +0 every time to stall it out if it has Toxic or just ANY form of continuous chip (rare but something to mention). Honestly a back-up for Tera'd Gambit match-up alone feels like SOMEONE will find a use for it (especially with a resistant Tera like Fighting or Dark) however specific.
Reliable ways to spread Toxic Poison never hurt given we have no Clerics and Item Utility tends to go to stuff like Offense or HDB. One big thing I see for this mon is being your one-stop out to virtually any Toxic-vulnerable Physical Breaker in absence of outright Revenge Kill options. Can also use Haze if it has Boosts to get rid of. Foul Play also exists depending on the target but too lazy to check if it survives AND KO's anything relevant since a lot of sweepers are also pretty fat or resist it, with or without the above considered Dark Tera.
+1 252+ Atk Protosynthesis Gouging Fire Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Pecharunt in Sun: 297-351 (78.1 - 92.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
220 Atk Choice Band Roaring Moon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Pecharunt: 252-296 (66.3 - 77.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+4 252+ Atk Black Glasses Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Tera Dark Kingambit Kowtow Cleave vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Dark Pecharunt: 289-341 (76 - 89.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Black Glasses Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Tera Dark Kingambit Kowtow Cleave vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Poison Pecharunt: 386-456 (101.5 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Dark Pecharunt: 228-268 (60 - 70.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Black Glasses Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Kowtow Cleave vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Poison Pecharunt: 289-342 (76 - 90%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Quark Drive Iron Boulder Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Pecharunt: 274-324 (72.1 - 85.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252 Atk Tera Ground Kyurem Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Pecharunt: 204-240 (53.6 - 63.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
220 Atk Choice Band Roaring Moon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Pecharunt: 252-296 (66.3 - 77.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+4 252+ Atk Black Glasses Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Tera Dark Kingambit Kowtow Cleave vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Dark Pecharunt: 289-341 (76 - 89.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Black Glasses Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Tera Dark Kingambit Kowtow Cleave vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Poison Pecharunt: 386-456 (101.5 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Dark Pecharunt: 228-268 (60 - 70.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Black Glasses Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Kowtow Cleave vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Poison Pecharunt: 289-342 (76 - 90%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Quark Drive Iron Boulder Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Pecharunt: 274-324 (72.1 - 85.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252 Atk Tera Ground Kyurem Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Pecharunt: 204-240 (53.6 - 63.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Hex is also not bad as a strong Ghost STAB considering besides its own Toxic, Balance/Defensive teams lean hard into Status to slow down offensive opponents. Makes up for a lack of power if it can't fit NP or investment on your set to speed up the Toxic chip or actually kill a neutered opponent.
tl;dr it's probably RU but I can picture some unironic teams using it because of how Physically fat it is.
Edit: Okay maybe I wasn't TOO lazy. It wants some Chip or might prefer Toxic on a lot of them, but there's some non negligible damage or enough to soften into Priority Range for several.
tl;dr here: Some funny numbers, niche as anything else so maybe consider it if you want a Tera-hungry "No U" option for Physical Sweepers.
+2 252 Atk Protosynthesis Tera Flying Roaring Moon Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Dark Pecharunt: 252-297 (66.3 - 78.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Tera Dark Pecharunt Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Flying Roaring Moon: 433-510 (123.3 - 145.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 Atk Protosynthesis Roaring Moon Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Dark Pecharunt: 168-198 (44.2 - 52.1%) -- 17.6% chance to 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Tera Dark Pecharunt Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Roaring Moon: 216-255 (61.5 - 72.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252+ Atk Protosynthesis Gouging Fire Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Dark Pecharunt in Sun: 297-351 (78.1 - 92.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252+ Atk Tera Dark Pecharunt Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Gouging Fire: 198-234 (56.4 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Kyurem Icicle Spear (4 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Dark Pecharunt: 168-204 (44.2 - 53.6%) -- approx. 23.4% chance to 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Tera Dark Pecharunt Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kyurem: 339-399 (86.7 - 102%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
Any Scale Shot drop makes this a Kill at +1
+1 252 Atk Tera Dark Pecharunt Foul Play vs. -1 0 HP / 4 Def Kyurem: 382-450 (97.6 - 115%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
+2 252 Atk Weavile Triple Axel (40 BP) (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Dark Pecharunt: 192-228 (50.5 - 60%) -- approx. 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Tera Dark Pecharunt Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Weavile: 207-245 (73.6 - 87.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Tera Ice Triple Axel -> Ice Shard KOs but Foul Play becomes an OHKO without the resistance and regular IS -> Tera Triple Axel needs both to roll max, so yeah.
+2 252 Atk Tera Dark Pecharunt Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Flying Roaring Moon: 433-510 (123.3 - 145.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 Atk Protosynthesis Roaring Moon Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Dark Pecharunt: 168-198 (44.2 - 52.1%) -- 17.6% chance to 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Tera Dark Pecharunt Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Roaring Moon: 216-255 (61.5 - 72.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252+ Atk Protosynthesis Gouging Fire Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Dark Pecharunt in Sun: 297-351 (78.1 - 92.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252+ Atk Tera Dark Pecharunt Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Gouging Fire: 198-234 (56.4 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Kyurem Icicle Spear (4 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Dark Pecharunt: 168-204 (44.2 - 53.6%) -- approx. 23.4% chance to 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Tera Dark Pecharunt Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kyurem: 339-399 (86.7 - 102%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
Any Scale Shot drop makes this a Kill at +1
+1 252 Atk Tera Dark Pecharunt Foul Play vs. -1 0 HP / 4 Def Kyurem: 382-450 (97.6 - 115%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
+2 252 Atk Weavile Triple Axel (40 BP) (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Dark Pecharunt: 192-228 (50.5 - 60%) -- approx. 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Tera Dark Pecharunt Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Weavile: 207-245 (73.6 - 87.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Tera Ice Triple Axel -> Ice Shard KOs but Foul Play becomes an OHKO without the resistance and regular IS -> Tera Triple Axel needs both to roll max, so yeah.
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So what's the set for Peach? I got this but I don't even know if outspeeding Gambit is necessary I just use that as the benchmark for all my defensive mons:
Pecharunt @ Leftovers
Ability: Poison Puppeteer
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 228 HP / 252 Def / 28 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Malignant Chain
- Hex
- Parting Shot
- Recover
Pecharunt @ Leftovers
Ability: Poison Puppeteer
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 228 HP / 252 Def / 28 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Malignant Chain
- Hex
- Parting Shot
- Recover
Its a defensive mon, so honestly I think plain old Toxic is better than 8pp Malignant Chain which only has a 50% chance. Confusion fishing is even more annoying as well!
Also... Regenerator. Calling this a side-grade to Glowking is a big stretch.
Regenerator is better than recover, it can be used more than 8 times. Y'all are severely overestimating this thing's capabilities
Regenerator is the single best ability a defensive pivot can have. That alone is huge and gives Glowking enormous utility over Pecharunt.
If Pecharunt sees serious use I don't think it will necessarily be as a dedicated pivot, although Parting Shot will definitely be a nice tool in its arsenal, but more as an obnoxious utility Pokemon that's capable of shutting down almost any physical attacker that can be poisoned.
If Pecharunt sees serious use I don't think it will necessarily be as a dedicated pivot, although Parting Shot will definitely be a nice tool in its arsenal, but more as an obnoxious utility Pokemon that's capable of shutting down almost any physical attacker that can be poisoned.
Pecharunt @ Leftovers
Ability: Poison Puppeteer
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Def / 32 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Toxic
- Tera Blast
- Hex
- Recover
What I feel like the most common set will look like, enough speed to outspeed some base stuff like Jolly Gambit and Lando-T without speed, using it's insane physical bulk, Toxic is preferred over Malignant Chain because of PP and % to poison. Tera Blast to beat Steel / Dark if needed, maybe a bit more SpA EVs might be the only change I would do in terms of EVs but this is what I think people are running right now as a basic set.
I think I agree it might be a good side grade to Galarking. Looking at their stats side by side.
G-King has 95/80/110 bulk.
Runt has 88/160/88 bulk
King has Regenerator + Chilly Reception, while Runt has Recover + Parting Shot.
They're both weak to Dark, Ground, and Ghost too, and while Runt has one more weakness in Psychic, that's a much less common attacking type in OU.
You can even send it out to check Valiant as it's insane bulk means Psychock bounces off it.
G-King has 95/80/110 bulk.
Runt has 88/160/88 bulk
King has Regenerator + Chilly Reception, while Runt has Recover + Parting Shot.
They're both weak to Dark, Ground, and Ghost too, and while Runt has one more weakness in Psychic, that's a much less common attacking type in OU.
You can even send it out to check Valiant as it's insane bulk means Psychock bounces off it.
Just Parting Shot, since King learns Slack Off too.
So Gking in UU.
Excited to see possible spreads for my in game. Even if it doesn’t end up OU or even UU I still see it possibly settling somewhere it could be good as it has a good defensive typing and naturally good stats since it’s a mythical. Only reason stuff like Wo-Chien fall so low is their miserable typings.
Pecharunt is pretty interesting, kinda sad its signature is only 8 pp though. Best set seems to be Pivot, spreading status and allowing team mates to easily switch in thanks to parting shot. Its physical bulk is amazing and will guarantee its stays in OU.
Pecharunt @ Leftovers
Ability: Poison Puppeteer
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Malignant Chain / Toxic
- Hex / Foul Play
- Parting Shot
- Recover
Seems like the best not fully optimized set, although some variations or offensive alternatives are also quite possible.
Pecharunt @ Leftovers
Ability: Poison Puppeteer
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Malignant Chain / Toxic
- Hex / Foul Play
- Parting Shot
- Recover
Seems like the best not fully optimized set, although some variations or offensive alternatives are also quite possible.
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Guarantee? It doesn't have anywhere as much utility compared to other poison types like Toxapex or Glowking. It will have niche in OU, but it will be UU or likely even RU
I’ve noticed OU people have the tendency to label a new Mon trash based on that tiers standards but once it falls a bit it can settle nicely or becoming the dominating force in a lower tier.
Toxic spreader, good typing and amazing stats with a flexible movepool and some interesting interactions (toxic + confusion). Is easily one of the best physical walls in the tier while at the same time acting as a great pivot thanks to parting shot, and having recovery.
Im pretty sure it will stay in OU. Its a ''ferrothorn variant'' imo, its weaknesses are easy to cover.
Maybe because OU people are looking at the OU meta, not lower tiers which they probably don't main.