the Rotom-Heat analysis should be removed since it moved up to UU
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Froslass's analysis mentions Gligar (which is UU), Doublade (which is also UU), Heracross (UU again, also previously banned), Zoroark (banned), Kommo-o (UU), and Dhelmise (unviable). Yeah, I'm thinking this might need a revamp.
Edit: Here are some mons whose RU sets should be removed:
Edit: Here are some mons whose RU sets should be removed:
Charizard (unranked on VR)Chesnaught (rose to UU)Comfey (unranked on VR)Cryogonal (unranked on VR)Decidueye (unranked on VR)Doublade (rose to UU)Durant (banned)Ferroseed (unranked on VR)- Mega Glalie (unranked on VR)
Gligar (rose to UU)Leafeon (unranked on VR)Alolan Persian (unranked on VR)Qwilfish (unranked on VR)Rotom-F (unranked on VR)Rotom-H (rose to UU)Mega Steelix (rose to UU)
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I feel like Donphan's Smogon Dex entry is way too harsh and doesn't currently reflect upon its capabilities in RU. Anyone feel like it needs a revamp?
Yeah, it probably should as long as MegaLix and Gligar stay UU, since those were the main things keeping it down for so long.
Swellow's analysis need to get Air Slash replaced (since Kommo-O left) and be replaced by HP Water or Grass, probably Water since it hits Stakataka.
roman
Banned deucer.
done
done all except mega glalie, it was somehow taken off vr in the transition from v2 to v3
donphan is being revamped
air slash is important to revenge kill threats like virizion - also there is potential that stakataka will be suspected so this is on hold for the moment
being written
Personally I feel Escavalier could do with a revamp. The wording oversells its abilities (it's B rank on the VR) and I think Choice Band is a better set than the bulky attacker one right now. I think the set order should be Choice Band then SD Resttalk (SD is something it can do that Metagross can't) then the tank set.
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Meloetta's RU analysis is still up despite being banned a while ago.
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Flygon urgently needs a revamp. It presents Flygon as a superior Dragon Dancer over Zydog and not only includes various mentions to Gligar or Chesnaught but also older tier shifted mons like Rotom-H plus not as relevants mons like Gigalith.
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/bruxish/ i feel this is heavily outdated, mentions moltres rotom-H and zoroark
roman
Banned deucer.
Both of these will be updated via cms and not full revamps, reason being that the information in them is still relevant but mostly just the examples need to be updated.
re flygon: it'll get a more thorough cms update to fix some of the faulty wording in overview etc along with updated examples
thanks guys for posting, helps us keep everything up to date! for anyone wondering a new wave of revamps will be posted in the reservation thread very soon
Almost all the RU analyses on site mention at least one UU or RUBL Pokemon:
Abomasnow (Gligar, Moltres, Doublade, Chesnaught, Meloetta)
Aerodactyl (Gligar, Doublade, Rotom-H, Chesnaught)
Araquanid (Doublade, Gligar, Mega Steelix, Chesnaught, Moltres, Kommo-o)
Banette (Doublade, Chesnaught, Gligar, Meloetta, Mega Steelix, Moltres)
Barbaracle (Doublade, Gligar, Chesnaught)
Bewear (Rotom-H, Doublade, Gligar, Chesnaught, Moltres)
Blastoise (Gligar, Mega Steelix, Rotom-H)
Bronzong (Doublade, Reuniclus, Chesnaught, Rotom-H)
Camerupt (Moltres, Reuniclus, Kommo-o)
Cofagrigus (Meloetta, Chesnaught, Gligar) getting a mini, update is not necessary
Cresselia (Gligar, Doublade)
Diancie (Zoroark, Moltres, Gligar, Chesnaught, Doublade) getting a revamp, update is not necessary
Dragalge (Doublade, Chesnaught, Rotom-H, Gligar, Moltres) getting a revamp, update is not necessary
Drapion (Meloetta, Moltres, Mega Steelix, Gligar, Chesnaught)
Emboar (Doublade, Entei, Meloetta, Gligar)
Escavalier (Meloetta, Rotom-H, Mega Steelix, Gligar, Moltres, Doublade, Sharpedo)
Feraligatr (Chesnaught, Gligar, Heracross, Zoroark, Doublade, Sharpedo, Durant)
Florges (Mega Steelix, Chesnaught, Moltres, Gligar, Doublade)
Forretress (Doublade, Gligar, Moltres, Mega Steelix, Meloetta, Entei)
Galvantula (Heracross, Gligar, Rotom-H, Zoroark, Doublade, Kommo-o)
Gardevoir (Doublade, Rotom-H, Moltres, Chesnaught)
Gigalith (Gligar, Chesnaught, Doublade, Heracross, Reuniclus, Durant)
Glalie (Doublade, Rotom-H, Moltres, Gligar, Durant)
Golisopod (Doublade, Gligar, Mega Steelix, Moltres, Chesnaught, Rotom-H)
Goodra (Zoroark, Kommo-o, Doublade, Durant, Gligar) getting a revamp, update is not necessary
Honchkrow (Kommo-o, Doublade, Zoroark, Gligar, Rotom-H) getting a revamp, update is not necessary
Hoopa (Chesnaught, Kommo-o, Zoroark, Gligar, Doublade, Sharpedo)
Jellicent (Heracross, Gligar, Chesnaught, Reuniclus, Moltres, Rotom-H, Durant, Zoroark)
Jolteon (Doublade, Gligar, Rotom-H)
Kingdra (Moltres, Meloetta, Mega Steelix)
Linoone (Chesnaught, Mega Steelix, Doublade, Durant)
Lycanroc-Dusk (Doublade, Gligar, Chesnaught, Mega Steelix)
Machamp (Doublade, Gligar, Moltres, Meloetta)
Mandibuzz (Doublade, Gligar, Chesnaught, Mega Steelix, Moltres)
Milotic (Doublade, Gligar, Chesnaught, Mega Steelix, Moltres)
Minior (Doublade, Chesnaught, Heracross, Rotom-H, Gligar, Zoroark)
Nidoqueen (Gligar, Moltres, Rotom-H, Meloetta)
Ninetales (Gligar, Rotom-H, Chesnaught, Doublade, Mega Steelix, Kommo-o)
Pangoro (Durant, Doublade, Gligar, Chesnaught, Reuniclus, Meloetta, Sharpedo, Kommo-o, Heracross)
Porygon2 (Heracross, Sharpedo, Kommo-o, Gligar, Doublade, Moltres, Reuniclus) getting a revamp, update is not necessary
Pyukumuku (Meloetta, Doublade, Gligar, Rotom-H)
Quagsire (Doublade, Gligar, Moltres, Chesnaught, Meloetta, Zoroark)
Rotom-C (Gligar, Moltres, Doublade)
Salazzle (Chesnaught, Gligar, Doublade, Meloetta)
Seismitoad (Doublade, Gligar, Mega Steelix)
Shaymin (Doublade, Gligar, Heracross, Chesnaught, Kommo-o)
Sigilyph (Mega Steelix, Gligar, Entei, Meloetta, Rotom-H)
Slowking (Kommo-o, Moltres, Doublade, Gligar, Chesnaught, Rotom-H, Sharpedo, Zoroark)
Slurpuff (Doublade, Mega Steelix, Chesnaught, Gligar)
Sneasel (Gligar, Doublade, Zoroark, Chesnaught, Kommo-o, Reuniclus, Sharpedo, Heracross, Moltres, Rotom-H)
Snorlax (Gligar, Doublade, Rotom-H, Moltres, Chesnaught, Durant)
Stoutland (Doublade, Gligar, Durant, Chesnaught, Kommo-o, Heracross, Rotom-H, Zoroark)
Torkoal (Heracross, Doubldae, Durant, Gligar, Rotom-H, Zoroark, Kommo-o)
Tsareena (Doublade, Gligar, Moltres, Mega Steelix, Rotom-H, Chesnaught) ** IMPORTANT **: the main analysis is just getting a cms update, if you want to do this one pm me for more details
Tyrantrum (Doublade, Chesnaught, Gligar, Heracross, Zoroark, Reuniclus, Meloetta, Moltres, Mega Steelix)
Umbreon (Doublade, Moltres, Gligar, Chesnaught)
Vaporeon (Stakataka)
Venusaur (Chesnaught, Moltres, Rotom-H)
Yanmega (Rotom-H, Moltres, Doublade, Kommo-o, Gligar, Chesnaught, Mega Steelix, Durant)
roman edit: thank you! qc will be running through this list shortly. again this is very helpful, thanks <3
Hoopa (Chesnaught, Kommo-o, Zoroark, Gligar, Doublade, Sharpedo)
Jellicent (Heracross, Gligar, Chesnaught, Reuniclus, Moltres, Rotom-H, Durant, Zoroark)
Jolteon (Doublade, Gligar, Rotom-H)
Kingdra (Moltres, Meloetta, Mega Steelix)
Linoone (Chesnaught, Mega Steelix, Doublade, Durant)
Lycanroc-Dusk (Doublade, Gligar, Chesnaught, Mega Steelix)
Machamp (Doublade, Gligar, Moltres, Meloetta)
Mandibuzz (Doublade, Gligar, Chesnaught, Mega Steelix, Moltres)
Milotic (Doublade, Gligar, Chesnaught, Mega Steelix, Moltres)
Minior (Doublade, Chesnaught, Heracross, Rotom-H, Gligar, Zoroark)
Nidoqueen (Gligar, Moltres, Rotom-H, Meloetta)
Ninetales (Gligar, Rotom-H, Chesnaught, Doublade, Mega Steelix, Kommo-o)
Pangoro (Durant, Doublade, Gligar, Chesnaught, Reuniclus, Meloetta, Sharpedo, Kommo-o, Heracross)
Pyukumuku (Meloetta, Doublade, Gligar, Rotom-H)
Quagsire (Doublade, Gligar, Moltres, Chesnaught, Meloetta, Zoroark)
Rotom-C (Gligar, Moltres, Doublade)
Shaymin (Doublade, Gligar, Heracross, Chesnaught, Kommo-o)
Sigilyph (Mega Steelix, Gligar, Entei, Meloetta, Rotom-H)
Slowking (Kommo-o, Moltres, Doublade, Gligar, Chesnaught, Rotom-H, Sharpedo, Zoroark)
Sneasel (Gligar, Doublade, Zoroark, Chesnaught, Kommo-o, Reuniclus, Sharpedo, Heracross, Moltres, Rotom-H)
Snorlax (Gligar, Doublade, Rotom-H, Moltres, Chesnaught, Durant)
Stoutland (Doublade, Gligar, Durant, Chesnaught, Kommo-o, Heracross, Rotom-H, Zoroark)
Torkoal (Heracross, Doubldae, Durant, Gligar, Rotom-H, Zoroark, Kommo-o)
Tsareena (Doublade, Gligar, Moltres, Mega Steelix, Rotom-H, Chesnaught) ** IMPORTANT **: the main analysis is just getting a cms update, if you want to do this one pm me for more details
roman edit: thank you! qc will be running through this list shortly. again this is very helpful, thanks <3
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Special Walls: Milotic and Florges have enough natural Special Defense to always take little damage from any of Mega Blastoise's attacks and wear it down with their attacks. Snorlax, Umbreon, and Porygon2 take Aura Sphere just well enought to stall with recovery,
Extremely minor, but thought that I might as well point out this spelling mistake.
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Extremely minor, but thought that I might as well point out this spelling mistake.
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https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/slurpuff/ this has like 70 mentions of doublade and mega steelix
r edit: cms updated
r edit: cms updated
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https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/snorlax/ru/
CB is 16 EVs short. Looks like someone recently reduced the Spe from 44 to 28 but didn't move those EVs into anything else.
roman edit: fixed
CB is 16 EVs short. Looks like someone recently reduced the Spe from 44 to 28 but didn't move those EVs into anything else.
roman edit: fixed
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https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/slowking/ru/
This post contains many mentions of mons that are no either now banned to RUBL or have risen to a higher tier. The ones that I have found are mentions of Chesnaught (UU), Sharpedo (RUBL), Zoroark (RUBL), Moltres (UU), Feraligatr (UU), Gligar (UU), Doublade (UU), Rotom-Heat (UU), and Kommo-o (OU). This is unfortunately in great need of being updated.
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/seismitoad/ru/
This post mentions Doublade, Mega Steelix,, Feraligatr, Meloetta, and Gligar. Additionally it mentions Milotic and Mantine as other, possibly superior options due to better bulk and access to reliable recovery, and I personally feel slowbro should be mentioned here as well due to how good of a bulky water type it is right now in the metagame.
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/minior/ru/
This post mentions Doublade, Chesnaught, Heracross, Gligar, and Zoroark. Furthermore, it lists mons such as Cryogonal and Dhelmise as potentially useful partners, whereby the former one is completely unviable and the latter is generally considered to be unviable as well right now. Also, given that Minior is unranked on the current VR, why does it have an analysis in the first place?
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/feraligatr/ru/
As Feraligatr has risen from RU to UU, this analysis is completely invalid due to Feraligatr no longer being legal in the tier.
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/medicham/ru/
As Feraligatr is no longer UU, its mention as a Pokemon for which a Jolly nature is essential to outspeed becomes irrelevant. Furthermore, since this would leave Necrozma as the only Pokemon mentioned for which a Jolly nature is preferred to outspeed. In my opinion, this either warrants the mention of additional Pokemon for which a Jolly nature is necessary to outspeed them or an Adamant nature as an alternative option given that Medicham's goal is to hit as hard as possible.
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/bruxish/
Again, Doublade and Zoroark are mentioned here.
zizalith edit: did all of these
This post contains many mentions of mons that are no either now banned to RUBL or have risen to a higher tier. The ones that I have found are mentions of Chesnaught (UU), Sharpedo (RUBL), Zoroark (RUBL), Moltres (UU), Feraligatr (UU), Gligar (UU), Doublade (UU), Rotom-Heat (UU), and Kommo-o (OU). This is unfortunately in great need of being updated.
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/seismitoad/ru/
This post mentions Doublade, Mega Steelix,, Feraligatr, Meloetta, and Gligar. Additionally it mentions Milotic and Mantine as other, possibly superior options due to better bulk and access to reliable recovery, and I personally feel slowbro should be mentioned here as well due to how good of a bulky water type it is right now in the metagame.
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/minior/ru/
This post mentions Doublade, Chesnaught, Heracross, Gligar, and Zoroark. Furthermore, it lists mons such as Cryogonal and Dhelmise as potentially useful partners, whereby the former one is completely unviable and the latter is generally considered to be unviable as well right now. Also, given that Minior is unranked on the current VR, why does it have an analysis in the first place?
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/feraligatr/ru/
As Feraligatr has risen from RU to UU, this analysis is completely invalid due to Feraligatr no longer being legal in the tier.
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/medicham/ru/
As Feraligatr is no longer UU, its mention as a Pokemon for which a Jolly nature is essential to outspeed becomes irrelevant. Furthermore, since this would leave Necrozma as the only Pokemon mentioned for which a Jolly nature is preferred to outspeed. In my opinion, this either warrants the mention of additional Pokemon for which a Jolly nature is necessary to outspeed them or an Adamant nature as an alternative option given that Medicham's goal is to hit as hard as possible.
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/bruxish/
Again, Doublade and Zoroark are mentioned here.
zizalith edit: did all of these
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"252 EVs in Speed with a Timid nature allow Jolteon to be as fast as possible, outpacing base 80 Speed Choice Scarf users."
Found this line in the Jolteon analysis, which is simply not true. https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/jolteon/
Found this line in the Jolteon analysis, which is simply not true. https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/jolteon/
roman
Banned deucer.
I just realized that Jolteon's analysis doesn't even mention Raikou as a potentially (and almost always) superior option, as well as implying that Feraligatr is still in the tier. The second one definitely is an oversight (no offense to anyone), but should the first be included? Just wondering.
zizalith edit: jolteon is getting revamped as a mini analysis, dont worry about it
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Forretress' analysis uses Overcoat over Sturdy, citing extremely rare sets (non-HP Fire Roserade, non-HP Fire Venu). Also justifies using it in order to avoid chip from Mega Abomasnow, which currently sits at #82 in RU usage. I think, at the very least, Sturdy should be slashed as an ability, though, since I feel like Overcoat serves no non-niche purpose, it should be fully replaced by Sturdy.
Anyway, here's a set suggestion:
Despite Mega Abomasnow being so low in usage, I feel like a Substitute set should definitely be added as a full set, rather than an OO. Here's what I've been using:
This isn't really an optimal set, but the composition of the team I use it on allows it work wonders. Because of Aboma's ability to threaten various Pokemon in the tier, it can get substitute up and safely deal some chip damage to whatever check/counter the target decides to send out before having to switch out. Personally, I try to opt for Giga Drain in these scenarios to lessen chip from Sub+hazards, but Blizzard can deal a big chunk of damage as well.
Someone pointed out how poor the set is in coverage, which is true, so an alternative to the moves could be Wood Hammer / Earthquake / Ice Shard / Substitute. The issue I have with this variant, though, is that the HP loss from Substitute and Wood Hammer adds up pretty fast. Its NU analysis has a similar set, being:
This is likely better than what I run, so something like it could be optimized for RU or something.
tl;dr: aboma should have a substitute set in its analysis as more than just an OO.
thank
zizalith edit: thank you for these. regarding forry i slashed sturdy behind overcoat because even though aboma is not used as much on ladder it is still an a- ranked mon + hp fire rose is not a particularly uncommon set (non hp fire venu is though). as for aboma, substitute is nowhere near common enough to warrant a full set, so i added a chubby oo for substitute.
Anyway, here's a set suggestion:
Despite Mega Abomasnow being so low in usage, I feel like a Substitute set should definitely be added as a full set, rather than an OO. Here's what I've been using:
Abomasnow @ Abomasite
Ability: Soundproof
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
- Blizzard
- Giga Drain
- Ice Shard / Earthquake
- Substitute
Ability: Soundproof
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
- Blizzard
- Giga Drain
- Ice Shard / Earthquake
- Substitute
This isn't really an optimal set, but the composition of the team I use it on allows it work wonders. Because of Aboma's ability to threaten various Pokemon in the tier, it can get substitute up and safely deal some chip damage to whatever check/counter the target decides to send out before having to switch out. Personally, I try to opt for Giga Drain in these scenarios to lessen chip from Sub+hazards, but Blizzard can deal a big chunk of damage as well.
Someone pointed out how poor the set is in coverage, which is true, so an alternative to the moves could be Wood Hammer / Earthquake / Ice Shard / Substitute. The issue I have with this variant, though, is that the HP loss from Substitute and Wood Hammer adds up pretty fast. Its NU analysis has a similar set, being:
Abomasnow @ Abomasite
Ability: Soundproof
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest / Mild Nature
- Blizzard
- Giga Drain
- Focus Blast / Earthquake
- Substitute / Ice Shard
Ability: Soundproof
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest / Mild Nature
- Blizzard
- Giga Drain
- Focus Blast / Earthquake
- Substitute / Ice Shard
This is likely better than what I run, so something like it could be optimized for RU or something.
tl;dr: aboma should have a substitute set in its analysis as more than just an OO.
thank
zizalith edit: thank you for these. regarding forry i slashed sturdy behind overcoat because even though aboma is not used as much on ladder it is still an a- ranked mon + hp fire rose is not a particularly uncommon set (non hp fire venu is though). as for aboma, substitute is nowhere near common enough to warrant a full set, so i added a chubby oo for substitute.
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I was reading through a few analyses, and i found mentions of Linoone and Feraligatr in Tsareena's analysis. Mostly minor mentions, although one line is outdated now in the analysis because Feraligatr is UU now.
zizalith: ty for posting, ran a more thorough cms update on this cause it was p old
zizalith: ty for posting, ran a more thorough cms update on this cause it was p old
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I found two mentions of Gligar in Gigalith's analysis
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In the Mandibuzz analysis I found some mentions of Linoone (Also: Both sets use an EV spread to survive a +6 ESpeed form it. The EV spread should be change to another, I guess) and Feraligatr.
z: done
In the Lycanroc-Dusk analysis I found two mentions of Gligar
In the Gardevoir analysis I found a mention of Linoone and Feraligatr
In the Metagross analysis I found a mention of Linoone and some of Feraligatr
In the Nidoqueen analyse I found a mention of Feraligatr
In the Zygarde-10% analysis I found a mention of Linoon
In Tyrantrums analysis I found a mention of Feraligatr
In the Snorlax analysis I found a mention of Gligar
In the Roserade analysis I found some mentions of Linoone
Last but not least, I found a mention of Comfey in Machamp's analysis in my opinion it should be removed, because Comfey is UR on the VR
zizalith edit: thank u for posting! qc will be going over this list shortly
edit 2: actually i just did all of them. thanks a bunch
Moves
Stealth Rock is almost mandatory on any team, and running it is essential for this set, as its usefulness is too good to pass up on. Stone Edge provides the necessary STAB move of choice, although Rock Blast is another option to consider that is more accurate and has more PP while being weaker most of the time, making it miss out on crucial 2HKOs that Stone Edge would get, with the biggest example being Shaymin. Earthquake provides good coverage and hits Pokemon that would otherwise check Gigalith, such as Nidoqueen. Toxic is used in the final slot to cripple bulky switch-ins such as Slowbro, preventing it from setting up, as well as Milotic, Mantine, and Gligar. [...]
Usage Tips
Use Gigalith to set up Stealth Rock early in the game, and then try to keep it alive to potentially check Pokemon like Swellow and Salazzle later. Use Toxic to cripple bulky switch-ins such as Slowbro and Gligar. [...]
Stealth Rock is almost mandatory on any team, and running it is essential for this set, as its usefulness is too good to pass up on. Stone Edge provides the necessary STAB move of choice, although Rock Blast is another option to consider that is more accurate and has more PP while being weaker most of the time, making it miss out on crucial 2HKOs that Stone Edge would get, with the biggest example being Shaymin. Earthquake provides good coverage and hits Pokemon that would otherwise check Gigalith, such as Nidoqueen. Toxic is used in the final slot to cripple bulky switch-ins such as Slowbro, preventing it from setting up, as well as Milotic, Mantine, and Gligar. [...]
Usage Tips
Use Gigalith to set up Stealth Rock early in the game, and then try to keep it alive to potentially check Pokemon like Swellow and Salazzle later. Use Toxic to cripple bulky switch-ins such as Slowbro and Gligar. [...]
z: done
In the Mandibuzz analysis I found some mentions of Linoone (Also: Both sets use an EV spread to survive a +6 ESpeed form it. The EV spread should be change to another, I guess) and Feraligatr.
Overview
Rocking an incredible typing and equally impressive 110 / 105 / 95 defensive stats, Mandibuzz is one of the RU tier's most formidable walls. Access to a huge variety of utility moves, such as Knock Off, Taunt, Toxic, U-turn, Brave Bird, Foul Play, and Defog, prevents Mandibuzz from being taken advantage of by walls like Bronzong and setup sweepers like Feraligatr. Mandibuzz's defensive strengths are further bolstered by Overcoat, preventing hail and sandstorm from Pokemon like Vanilluxe and Gigalith from negating its Leftovers; it also prevents Roserade from being able to put it to sleep. Reliable recovery in Roost assures Mandibuzz will stay healthy enough to check Pokemon like Yanmega, Linoone, and Roserade. [...]
(Taunt + Toxic Set)
Moves
Toxic lets Mandibuzz cripple walls such as Milotic and Cresselia. Taunt prevents opposing walls such as the aforementioned Milotic from afflicting Mandibuzz with Toxic poison and prevents others like Porygon2 from healing off potential Toxic damage. Roost provides Mandibuzz with reliable recovery. Foul Play lets Mandibuzz punish setup sweepers like Flygon and Feraligatr. Although it weakens Mandibuzz's matchup against more offensive teams, Knock Off greatly improves Mandibuzz's role of as a stallbreaker with the ability to remove items from defensive Pokemon.
Set Details
Leftovers provides Mandibuzz with additional recovery. Alternatively, Rocky Helmet allows it to beat Registeel with the combination of Taunt and Roost while additionally punishing U-turn from Yanmega and Flygon. Overcoat prevents Mandibuzz from being worn down by weather and being put to sleep by Roserade's Sleep Powder. 184 Speed EVs let Mandibuzz outspeed Adamant Honchkrow, allowing it to win in a one-on-one scenario thanks to Roost. The remainder of the EVs are used to make Mandibuzz a physical tank capable of stomaching very powerful attacks, primarily the aforementioned Honchkrow's attacks and Linoone's +6 Extreme Speed. [...]
(Defog set)
Moves
Defog allows Mandibuzz to support its teammates by keeping Stealth Rock off the field. Taunt paired with Mandibuzz's base 80 Speed attempts to keep Mandibuzz free of status conditions and allows it to check Curse Snorlax. U-turn can be used over Taunt on teams with powerful breakers like Yanmega and Passimian that appreciate being brought in for free thanks to Mandibuzz's slow U-turn. Roost provides Mandibuzz with a reliable form of recovery, keeping it healthy to check Pokemon like Yanmega and Roserade. Mandibuzz is able to check offensive Pokemon like Feraligatr, Flygon, and Belly Drum Linoone in a pinch with Foul Play. Alternatively, [...]
Set Details
Leftovers provides Mandibuzz with additional recovery, further helping it remain healthy. Alternatively, Rocky Helmet allows it to beat Registeel and Steelix with the combination of Taunt and Roost while additionally punishing U-turn from Noivern and Flygon. Overcoat prevents Mandibuzz from being worn down by weather and being put to sleep by Roserade's Sleep Powder. 20 Defense EVs are used to always survive +6 Linoone's Extreme Speed, while the Careful nature and the rest of the EVs are used to make Mandibuzz as specially bulky as possible so it can take on Mega Blastoise, Yanmega, and Roserade.
Usage Tips
Be careful of switching Mandibuzz directly into defensive Pokemon potentially carrying status-inflicting moves, such as Registeel, Milotic, and Cresselia. Keeping Foul Play hidden from your opponent can surprise Pokemon like Feraligatr and Flygon as they attempt to use Mandibuzz as setup fodder, while revealing it can dissuade them from setting up. [...]
Rocking an incredible typing and equally impressive 110 / 105 / 95 defensive stats, Mandibuzz is one of the RU tier's most formidable walls. Access to a huge variety of utility moves, such as Knock Off, Taunt, Toxic, U-turn, Brave Bird, Foul Play, and Defog, prevents Mandibuzz from being taken advantage of by walls like Bronzong and setup sweepers like Feraligatr. Mandibuzz's defensive strengths are further bolstered by Overcoat, preventing hail and sandstorm from Pokemon like Vanilluxe and Gigalith from negating its Leftovers; it also prevents Roserade from being able to put it to sleep. Reliable recovery in Roost assures Mandibuzz will stay healthy enough to check Pokemon like Yanmega, Linoone, and Roserade. [...]
(Taunt + Toxic Set)
Moves
Toxic lets Mandibuzz cripple walls such as Milotic and Cresselia. Taunt prevents opposing walls such as the aforementioned Milotic from afflicting Mandibuzz with Toxic poison and prevents others like Porygon2 from healing off potential Toxic damage. Roost provides Mandibuzz with reliable recovery. Foul Play lets Mandibuzz punish setup sweepers like Flygon and Feraligatr. Although it weakens Mandibuzz's matchup against more offensive teams, Knock Off greatly improves Mandibuzz's role of as a stallbreaker with the ability to remove items from defensive Pokemon.
Set Details
Leftovers provides Mandibuzz with additional recovery. Alternatively, Rocky Helmet allows it to beat Registeel with the combination of Taunt and Roost while additionally punishing U-turn from Yanmega and Flygon. Overcoat prevents Mandibuzz from being worn down by weather and being put to sleep by Roserade's Sleep Powder. 184 Speed EVs let Mandibuzz outspeed Adamant Honchkrow, allowing it to win in a one-on-one scenario thanks to Roost. The remainder of the EVs are used to make Mandibuzz a physical tank capable of stomaching very powerful attacks, primarily the aforementioned Honchkrow's attacks and Linoone's +6 Extreme Speed. [...]
(Defog set)
Moves
Defog allows Mandibuzz to support its teammates by keeping Stealth Rock off the field. Taunt paired with Mandibuzz's base 80 Speed attempts to keep Mandibuzz free of status conditions and allows it to check Curse Snorlax. U-turn can be used over Taunt on teams with powerful breakers like Yanmega and Passimian that appreciate being brought in for free thanks to Mandibuzz's slow U-turn. Roost provides Mandibuzz with a reliable form of recovery, keeping it healthy to check Pokemon like Yanmega and Roserade. Mandibuzz is able to check offensive Pokemon like Feraligatr, Flygon, and Belly Drum Linoone in a pinch with Foul Play. Alternatively, [...]
Set Details
Leftovers provides Mandibuzz with additional recovery, further helping it remain healthy. Alternatively, Rocky Helmet allows it to beat Registeel and Steelix with the combination of Taunt and Roost while additionally punishing U-turn from Noivern and Flygon. Overcoat prevents Mandibuzz from being worn down by weather and being put to sleep by Roserade's Sleep Powder. 20 Defense EVs are used to always survive +6 Linoone's Extreme Speed, while the Careful nature and the rest of the EVs are used to make Mandibuzz as specially bulky as possible so it can take on Mega Blastoise, Yanmega, and Roserade.
Usage Tips
Be careful of switching Mandibuzz directly into defensive Pokemon potentially carrying status-inflicting moves, such as Registeel, Milotic, and Cresselia. Keeping Foul Play hidden from your opponent can surprise Pokemon like Feraligatr and Flygon as they attempt to use Mandibuzz as setup fodder, while revealing it can dissuade them from setting up. [...]
z: done
In the Lycanroc-Dusk analysis I found two mentions of Gligar
Moves
Swords Dance allows Lycanroc-D to punch holes into defensive cores with Stone Edge or Splintered Stormshards. Stone Edge is Lycanroc-D's main STAB move, 2HKOing the likes of Milotic, Gligar, Bewear, and Cresselia after a Swords Dance boost when boosted by a Life Orb. [...]
Team Options
Pivoting is essential with Lycanroc-D, since it has problems switching into virtually anything. U-turn or Volt Switch support from the likes of Uxie, Flygon, Raikou, and Mega Ampharos is very appreciated. Memento support from the likes of Uxie, Choice Scarf Gardevoir, and Mismagius is also nice, since it lets Lycanroc set up safely against almost anything that comes into field. Wallbreakers such as Ninetales, Bewear, and Zygarde-10% make Lycanroc-D's life easier, since they can weaken Lycanroc-D's checks so it can clean up later in the game. Pokemon that resist Water-, Ground-, and Fighting-type moves are essential when running Lycanroc-D. Shaymin, Virizion, and Gligar are good options that can help break cores and offer utility options. [...]
Swords Dance allows Lycanroc-D to punch holes into defensive cores with Stone Edge or Splintered Stormshards. Stone Edge is Lycanroc-D's main STAB move, 2HKOing the likes of Milotic, Gligar, Bewear, and Cresselia after a Swords Dance boost when boosted by a Life Orb. [...]
Team Options
Pivoting is essential with Lycanroc-D, since it has problems switching into virtually anything. U-turn or Volt Switch support from the likes of Uxie, Flygon, Raikou, and Mega Ampharos is very appreciated. Memento support from the likes of Uxie, Choice Scarf Gardevoir, and Mismagius is also nice, since it lets Lycanroc set up safely against almost anything that comes into field. Wallbreakers such as Ninetales, Bewear, and Zygarde-10% make Lycanroc-D's life easier, since they can weaken Lycanroc-D's checks so it can clean up later in the game. Pokemon that resist Water-, Ground-, and Fighting-type moves are essential when running Lycanroc-D. Shaymin, Virizion, and Gligar are good options that can help break cores and offer utility options. [...]
In the Gardevoir analysis I found a mention of Linoone and Feraligatr
(Choice Scarf)
Moves
Psyshock is Gardevoir's main STAB move, allowing it to hit threats such as Salazzle, Dragalge, and Venusaur. Moonblast is Gardevoir's secondary STAB move, which is a much safer move to spam and hits threats such as Flygon. Will-O-Wisp cripples offensive Steel-types like Metagross and Escavalier, which are often an opponent's only solid Gardevoir switch-ins, while Trick hinders bulkier Pokemon like Registeel and Curse Snorlax. Healing Wish is used to heal a worn-down teammate in order for them to threaten the opponent's team again. Memento can aid a setup sweeper such as Linoone, Bararacle, or Dragon Dance Zygarde-10% by lowering the opponent's Attack and Special Attack. Focus Blast is an option to hit Steel-types like Registeel, but it does not hit very hard unboosted.
(Choice Specs)
Set Details
Maximum Special Attack and Speed investment ensures that Gardevoir outspeeds bulky Pokemon and hits as hard as possible. A Timid nature is preferred for this set, as it allows Gardevoir to outspeed Pokemon like Feraligatr, Mega Blastoise, and Necrozma. A Modest nature can be used for more power at the cost of outspeeding these Pokemon. Trace lets Gardevoir copy useful abilities such as Regenerator, Water Absorb, Sheer Force, Adaptability, and Levitate. It can also copy Chlorophyll and Sand Rush, which turns the tables versus weather teams.
Moves
Psyshock is Gardevoir's main STAB move, allowing it to hit threats such as Salazzle, Dragalge, and Venusaur. Moonblast is Gardevoir's secondary STAB move, which is a much safer move to spam and hits threats such as Flygon. Will-O-Wisp cripples offensive Steel-types like Metagross and Escavalier, which are often an opponent's only solid Gardevoir switch-ins, while Trick hinders bulkier Pokemon like Registeel and Curse Snorlax. Healing Wish is used to heal a worn-down teammate in order for them to threaten the opponent's team again. Memento can aid a setup sweeper such as Linoone, Bararacle, or Dragon Dance Zygarde-10% by lowering the opponent's Attack and Special Attack. Focus Blast is an option to hit Steel-types like Registeel, but it does not hit very hard unboosted.
(Choice Specs)
Set Details
Maximum Special Attack and Speed investment ensures that Gardevoir outspeeds bulky Pokemon and hits as hard as possible. A Timid nature is preferred for this set, as it allows Gardevoir to outspeed Pokemon like Feraligatr, Mega Blastoise, and Necrozma. A Modest nature can be used for more power at the cost of outspeeding these Pokemon. Trace lets Gardevoir copy useful abilities such as Regenerator, Water Absorb, Sheer Force, Adaptability, and Levitate. It can also copy Chlorophyll and Sand Rush, which turns the tables versus weather teams.
In the Metagross analysis I found a mention of Linoone and some of Feraligatr
Overview
Metagross is the premier offensive Steel-type in RU thanks to its excellent offensive stats and defensive typing. Its amazing versatility makes it quite hard to accurately predict its set, being able to fulfill several niches such as Stealth Rock setter, wallbreaker, sweeper, and revenge killer. Incorrectly predicting what set it is running can allow Metagross to utilize the free turns to wallbreak or set up. This is further exemplified by its ability to run several coverage moves. Meteor Mash's chance to boost its Attack can leave would-be counters such as Bronzong, Milotic, and Torterra insufficient after slight chip damage. Its great coverage options limit the number of checks that can switch into it; however, they also leave Metagross with a bad case of four-moveslot syndrome. On one hand, Metagross's base 70 Speed stat allows it to outspeed common nuisances to bulky offense teams, such as Bewear and Pangoro, but on the other hand, it leaves it extremely vulnerable to Pokemon such as Mega Blastoise, Nidoqueen, and Feraligatr. [...]
(choice Band)
Usage Tips
Use Metagross's wide array of resistances to switch it into Pokemon it walls and dish out powerful attacks. Be aware that Metagross's main STAB attack can give many free turns to Pokemon that resist Steel, such as Ninetales and Raikou. Thus, try to predict when the opponent might try to bring them in, and smack them with the appropriate coverage move. Bullet Punch should only be used against weakened threats, as it can leave Metagross setup fodder to many threatening pokemon like Linoone and Barbaracle. Similarly, avoid using Explosion unless Metagross is no longer needed.
(Choice Scarf)
Usage Tips
Choice Scarf Metagross has a much better matchup against offensive teams, having limited switch-ins outside of Pokemon such as a well-played Arcanine, Raikou, or Feraligatr. [...]
Team Options
Despite its Speed boost, Choice Scarf Metagross is unable to outspeed very fast threats like Aerodactyl, Dragon Dance Feraligatr, and Dragon Dance Flygon. Additionally, it is slower than all other viable Choice Scarf users like Salazzle, Raikou, and Goodra, meaning its teammates must have a way to combat these type of Pokemon. This makes partners such as Slowbro and Porygon2 ideal. Pokemon that can threaten Water-, Fire-, and Steel-types can make using Metagross far less prediction reliant. These include Pokemon like Roserade, Zygarde-10%, and Feraligatr. Wallbreakers like Toxicroak and Choice Specs Goodra can pave the way for Metagross to clean the opposing team.
Metagross is the premier offensive Steel-type in RU thanks to its excellent offensive stats and defensive typing. Its amazing versatility makes it quite hard to accurately predict its set, being able to fulfill several niches such as Stealth Rock setter, wallbreaker, sweeper, and revenge killer. Incorrectly predicting what set it is running can allow Metagross to utilize the free turns to wallbreak or set up. This is further exemplified by its ability to run several coverage moves. Meteor Mash's chance to boost its Attack can leave would-be counters such as Bronzong, Milotic, and Torterra insufficient after slight chip damage. Its great coverage options limit the number of checks that can switch into it; however, they also leave Metagross with a bad case of four-moveslot syndrome. On one hand, Metagross's base 70 Speed stat allows it to outspeed common nuisances to bulky offense teams, such as Bewear and Pangoro, but on the other hand, it leaves it extremely vulnerable to Pokemon such as Mega Blastoise, Nidoqueen, and Feraligatr. [...]
(choice Band)
Usage Tips
Use Metagross's wide array of resistances to switch it into Pokemon it walls and dish out powerful attacks. Be aware that Metagross's main STAB attack can give many free turns to Pokemon that resist Steel, such as Ninetales and Raikou. Thus, try to predict when the opponent might try to bring them in, and smack them with the appropriate coverage move. Bullet Punch should only be used against weakened threats, as it can leave Metagross setup fodder to many threatening pokemon like Linoone and Barbaracle. Similarly, avoid using Explosion unless Metagross is no longer needed.
(Choice Scarf)
Usage Tips
Choice Scarf Metagross has a much better matchup against offensive teams, having limited switch-ins outside of Pokemon such as a well-played Arcanine, Raikou, or Feraligatr. [...]
Team Options
Despite its Speed boost, Choice Scarf Metagross is unable to outspeed very fast threats like Aerodactyl, Dragon Dance Feraligatr, and Dragon Dance Flygon. Additionally, it is slower than all other viable Choice Scarf users like Salazzle, Raikou, and Goodra, meaning its teammates must have a way to combat these type of Pokemon. This makes partners such as Slowbro and Porygon2 ideal. Pokemon that can threaten Water-, Fire-, and Steel-types can make using Metagross far less prediction reliant. These include Pokemon like Roserade, Zygarde-10%, and Feraligatr. Wallbreakers like Toxicroak and Choice Specs Goodra can pave the way for Metagross to clean the opposing team.
In the Nidoqueen analyse I found a mention of Feraligatr
Checks and Counters
Special Walls: Even with Taunt or Toxic, Nidoqueen struggles to break past specially defensive Pokemon such as Cresselia, Snorlax, Porygon2, and Milotic.
Ground-types: Ground-type attacks from common Pokemon such as Flygon and Zygarde-10% KO Nidoqueen either outright or after slight chip damage.
Psychic-types: Super effective Psychic-type attacks from Pokemon such as Gardevoir, Meloetta, Espeon, Sigilyph, and Necrozma beat Nidoqueen.
Offensive Water-types: Water-types like Mega Blastoise and Feraligatr outpace and OHKO Nidoqueen.
Special Walls: Even with Taunt or Toxic, Nidoqueen struggles to break past specially defensive Pokemon such as Cresselia, Snorlax, Porygon2, and Milotic.
Ground-types: Ground-type attacks from common Pokemon such as Flygon and Zygarde-10% KO Nidoqueen either outright or after slight chip damage.
Psychic-types: Super effective Psychic-type attacks from Pokemon such as Gardevoir, Meloetta, Espeon, Sigilyph, and Necrozma beat Nidoqueen.
Offensive Water-types: Water-types like Mega Blastoise and Feraligatr outpace and OHKO Nidoqueen.
In the Zygarde-10% analysis I found a mention of Linoon
(Choice Band Set)
Moves
Thousand Arrows deals great damage to most neutral targets and forces out offensive threats such as Raikou, Drapion, and Houndoom. Outrage is Zygarde-10%'s secondary STAB move, allowing it to 2HKO most Pokemon that resist Thousand Arrows. Examples include Shaymin, Virizion, and Araquanid. Extreme Speed is a reliable revenge killing measure against faster threats like Choice Scarf Gardevoir, Noivern, Linoone, and Salazzle after prior damage. Toxic is a utility move that allows Zygarde-10% to cripple defensive Pokemon, such as Cresselia, Slowbro, and Tangela, putting them on a timer every time they switch into it.
Moves
Thousand Arrows deals great damage to most neutral targets and forces out offensive threats such as Raikou, Drapion, and Houndoom. Outrage is Zygarde-10%'s secondary STAB move, allowing it to 2HKO most Pokemon that resist Thousand Arrows. Examples include Shaymin, Virizion, and Araquanid. Extreme Speed is a reliable revenge killing measure against faster threats like Choice Scarf Gardevoir, Noivern, Linoone, and Salazzle after prior damage. Toxic is a utility move that allows Zygarde-10% to cripple defensive Pokemon, such as Cresselia, Slowbro, and Tangela, putting them on a timer every time they switch into it.
In Tyrantrums analysis I found a mention of Feraligatr
Overview
Tyrantrum's most defining trait is its access to Rock Head and STAB Head Smash, giving it an absurdly powerful attack with no immediate drawbacks that dents any Pokemon that does not resist it and lets it act as a powerful holepuncher or cleaner. Rock is a powerful offensive typing, granting Tyrantrum good coverage against a majority of the tier and making Head Smash quite spammable. Tyrantrum has good neutral coverage and a considerably wide movepool, although all it really needs are moves that take on the few Pokemon in the tier that can consistently withstand its Head Smashes. These qualities present Tyrantrum as one of the tier's most potent attackers and holepunchers. However, Tyrantrum's Speed is noticeably lacking, and as a Choice Scarf user, it suffers from being unable to outspeed +1 Feraligatr. Tyrantrum's low Special Defense combined with its awkward defensive typing and multitude of weaknesses often turns it into a defensive liability, making Tyrantrum function as a glass cannon. Tyrantrum is thus heavily reliant on its few physical resistances and 4x resistance to Fire to avoid getting 2HKOed by invested attacks.
Tyrantrum's most defining trait is its access to Rock Head and STAB Head Smash, giving it an absurdly powerful attack with no immediate drawbacks that dents any Pokemon that does not resist it and lets it act as a powerful holepuncher or cleaner. Rock is a powerful offensive typing, granting Tyrantrum good coverage against a majority of the tier and making Head Smash quite spammable. Tyrantrum has good neutral coverage and a considerably wide movepool, although all it really needs are moves that take on the few Pokemon in the tier that can consistently withstand its Head Smashes. These qualities present Tyrantrum as one of the tier's most potent attackers and holepunchers. However, Tyrantrum's Speed is noticeably lacking, and as a Choice Scarf user, it suffers from being unable to outspeed +1 Feraligatr. Tyrantrum's low Special Defense combined with its awkward defensive typing and multitude of weaknesses often turns it into a defensive liability, making Tyrantrum function as a glass cannon. Tyrantrum is thus heavily reliant on its few physical resistances and 4x resistance to Fire to avoid getting 2HKOed by invested attacks.
In the Snorlax analysis I found a mention of Gligar
Overview
As Snorlax continues to descend into lower tiers, it brings with it its tried-and-true Curse sets and manages to establish its perpetual dominance in the SM RU metagame as evident by its influential and consistent roles as a setup sweeper, wallbreaker, and defensive threat. Snorlax's Thick Fat ability in conjunction with its defensive stats allows it to check a variety of Pokemon, such as Nidoqueen, Salazzle, and Mega Glalie, while its ability to make use of Curse further bolsters its defensive prowess and enables it to sweep. Figy Berry opens up the option for a different spin on its conventional Curse set, making use of it with Gluttony and Recycle to give Snorlax a tool that capitalizes on its matchup versus offensive teams. Along with three great abilities, Snorlax possesses a movepool that complements its job as a wallbreaker and defensive Pokemon, granting it access to Pursuit, which can dispose of frail attackers like Swellow, Mismagius, and Espeon, alongside the necessary coverage moves and STAB attacks to break through physically bulky Pokemon such as Slowbro and Gligar. [...]
As Snorlax continues to descend into lower tiers, it brings with it its tried-and-true Curse sets and manages to establish its perpetual dominance in the SM RU metagame as evident by its influential and consistent roles as a setup sweeper, wallbreaker, and defensive threat. Snorlax's Thick Fat ability in conjunction with its defensive stats allows it to check a variety of Pokemon, such as Nidoqueen, Salazzle, and Mega Glalie, while its ability to make use of Curse further bolsters its defensive prowess and enables it to sweep. Figy Berry opens up the option for a different spin on its conventional Curse set, making use of it with Gluttony and Recycle to give Snorlax a tool that capitalizes on its matchup versus offensive teams. Along with three great abilities, Snorlax possesses a movepool that complements its job as a wallbreaker and defensive Pokemon, granting it access to Pursuit, which can dispose of frail attackers like Swellow, Mismagius, and Espeon, alongside the necessary coverage moves and STAB attacks to break through physically bulky Pokemon such as Slowbro and Gligar. [...]
In the Roserade analysis I found some mentions of Linoone
Usage Tips
Roserade's chances to switch in come from Water-types, walls it can threaten or set Spikes against like Florges, and predicted switches to Pokemon it checks. However, be careful when directly switching Roserade into Water-types; Mega Blastoise 2HKOes it with Dark Pulse or Ice Beam, making aggressive use of Spikes risky. Slowbro can OHKO Roserade on the switch with Psyshock, and Ice Beam Milotic likely 2HKOes. Making double switches is the best way to get Roserade into battle unharmed and is particularly important if it lacks Synthesis. Setting Spikes should be your default action when a foe is forced out, especially if that foe is a spinner or Defogger, but if the opponent is relying on shaky offensive answers to Roserade like Fire-types, smacking them with an attack to limit their switches will lower the pressure they exert. Don't use Leaf Storm recklessly, though; some Pokemon can set up on -2 Roserade, including Ninetales, Zygarde-10%, and Linoone. Roserade's main job is to set Spikes and punch holes early-game; once it's done so, you're generally free to let it get revenge killed so you don't lose momentum. Keep it around if it's running Synthesis and is a major threat to your opponent's bulky core, though.
Team Options
Roserade is best suited for particularly offensive teams, which benefit most from entry hazards and don't mind Roserade's lack of defensive value. Sweepers such as Barbaracle, Dragon Dance Zygarde-10%, and Linoone like having Spikes to make OHKOing foes easier. For example, Spikes damage is necessary for Zygarde-10% and Linoone to possibly OHKO Milotic with their boosted attacks. Defoggers contradict using an offensive Spikes setter, so you'll need a spinner or Magic Bounce user like Mega Blastoise, Donphan, or Espeon if you want entry hazard control. The only Defoggers that Roserade struggles against are Flying-types like Mandibuzz and Mantine, so Pokemon that can punish them like Raikou and Tyrantrum are advised. Roserade gets forced out easily; you can use the likes of Noivern and Goodra to switch into Fire-types and try bulky blanket checks like Cresselia and Porygon2 to absorb Zygarde-10%'s Thousand Arrows. Choice Scarf or priority users such as Gardevoir and Golisopod can minimize the damage dealt by foes exploiting Roserade.
Roserade's chances to switch in come from Water-types, walls it can threaten or set Spikes against like Florges, and predicted switches to Pokemon it checks. However, be careful when directly switching Roserade into Water-types; Mega Blastoise 2HKOes it with Dark Pulse or Ice Beam, making aggressive use of Spikes risky. Slowbro can OHKO Roserade on the switch with Psyshock, and Ice Beam Milotic likely 2HKOes. Making double switches is the best way to get Roserade into battle unharmed and is particularly important if it lacks Synthesis. Setting Spikes should be your default action when a foe is forced out, especially if that foe is a spinner or Defogger, but if the opponent is relying on shaky offensive answers to Roserade like Fire-types, smacking them with an attack to limit their switches will lower the pressure they exert. Don't use Leaf Storm recklessly, though; some Pokemon can set up on -2 Roserade, including Ninetales, Zygarde-10%, and Linoone. Roserade's main job is to set Spikes and punch holes early-game; once it's done so, you're generally free to let it get revenge killed so you don't lose momentum. Keep it around if it's running Synthesis and is a major threat to your opponent's bulky core, though.
Team Options
Roserade is best suited for particularly offensive teams, which benefit most from entry hazards and don't mind Roserade's lack of defensive value. Sweepers such as Barbaracle, Dragon Dance Zygarde-10%, and Linoone like having Spikes to make OHKOing foes easier. For example, Spikes damage is necessary for Zygarde-10% and Linoone to possibly OHKO Milotic with their boosted attacks. Defoggers contradict using an offensive Spikes setter, so you'll need a spinner or Magic Bounce user like Mega Blastoise, Donphan, or Espeon if you want entry hazard control. The only Defoggers that Roserade struggles against are Flying-types like Mandibuzz and Mantine, so Pokemon that can punish them like Raikou and Tyrantrum are advised. Roserade gets forced out easily; you can use the likes of Noivern and Goodra to switch into Fire-types and try bulky blanket checks like Cresselia and Porygon2 to absorb Zygarde-10%'s Thousand Arrows. Choice Scarf or priority users such as Gardevoir and Golisopod can minimize the damage dealt by foes exploiting Roserade.
Last but not least, I found a mention of Comfey in Machamp's analysis in my opinion it should be removed, because Comfey is UR on the VR
(Guts Wallbreaker)
Team Options
Pokemon such as Mismagius, Gardevoir, Espeon, and Comfey, whose ability to dent a team is hindered by the presence of Registeel or Umbreon, appreciate Machamp threatening these foes on a double switch. Healing Wish or Lunar Dance users such as Shaymin, Gardevoir, and Cresselia are also good options, as they can bring a weakened Machamp back onto the field to give it a second go at breaking through teams that relied on wearing it down. Pokemon providing VoltTurn support, such as Raikou, Swellow, and Mega Ampharos, can get Machamp in for free to fire off a powerful attack. Rhyperior and Registeel can come in on Flying-types such as Noivern and Golbat, which easily switch into Machamp and force it out, and they also provide Stealth Rock support for your team. Nidoqueen appreciates Machamp weakening their shared check in Cresselia, and vice versa, while supporting the team by setting up Stealth Rock. Escavalier can come in on and often Pursuit trap faster Psychic-types and force out Fairy-types that threaten Machamp.
Team Options
Pokemon such as Mismagius, Gardevoir, Espeon, and Comfey, whose ability to dent a team is hindered by the presence of Registeel or Umbreon, appreciate Machamp threatening these foes on a double switch. Healing Wish or Lunar Dance users such as Shaymin, Gardevoir, and Cresselia are also good options, as they can bring a weakened Machamp back onto the field to give it a second go at breaking through teams that relied on wearing it down. Pokemon providing VoltTurn support, such as Raikou, Swellow, and Mega Ampharos, can get Machamp in for free to fire off a powerful attack. Rhyperior and Registeel can come in on Flying-types such as Noivern and Golbat, which easily switch into Machamp and force it out, and they also provide Stealth Rock support for your team. Nidoqueen appreciates Machamp weakening their shared check in Cresselia, and vice versa, while supporting the team by setting up Stealth Rock. Escavalier can come in on and often Pursuit trap faster Psychic-types and force out Fairy-types that threaten Machamp.
zizalith edit: thank u for posting! qc will be going over this list shortly
edit 2: actually i just did all of them. thanks a bunch
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I guess, I found a mistake in the Hariyama analysis:
In the Set Details there is a mention that the 84 Speed EVs help Hariyama to outspeed uninvested Pokemon with base 50 Speed like Registeel and Diancie. But with 84 Speed EVs Hariyama outspeeds uninvested Pokemon with base 60 (Hariyama has 50 Speed base like Registeel and Diancie).
Two suggestions from me:
1) The Speed EVs should be put into Attack for more power while 4 EVs go into Speed to outspeed uninvested Pokemon with base 50 Speed
2) This should be changed to something like "...while still outpacing uninvested Pokemon with base 60 Speed like Porygon2 and Tangela". Or even 96 Speed EVs to outspeed Mega Abomasnow, too.
zizalith: thanks! just updated it
In the Set Details there is a mention that the 84 Speed EVs help Hariyama to outspeed uninvested Pokemon with base 50 Speed like Registeel and Diancie. But with 84 Speed EVs Hariyama outspeeds uninvested Pokemon with base 60 (Hariyama has 50 Speed base like Registeel and Diancie).
Two suggestions from me:
1) The Speed EVs should be put into Attack for more power while 4 EVs go into Speed to outspeed uninvested Pokemon with base 50 Speed
2) This should be changed to something like "...while still outpacing uninvested Pokemon with base 60 Speed like Porygon2 and Tangela". Or even 96 Speed EVs to outspeed Mega Abomasnow, too.
zizalith: thanks! just updated it
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