Resource Role Compendium (02/01/2023 update, see post #25)

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The main purpose of this thread is to provide a visual list organized by roles to see what Pokémon do what. This will help both new and experienced player in finding Pokémon which can fit their teams when looking for specific roles. Pokémon included in this thread are considered viable or have a niche in the current metagame, this list is therefore non-exhaustive and shouldn't be considered as an undeniable truth. Pokémon listed in this post are listed in alphabetical order and not based on their viability. If you think there is a Pokémon viable for the roles mentioned below and it hasn't been added to the group, then recommend it in your post with solid explanations.

1. Utility

Entry Hazards

Stealth Rock :



Spikes :


Toxic Spikes :


Sticky Web :



Hazard Control

Defog :



Rapid Spin :


Magic Bounce :


Tidy Up :


Spinblocker :


Defog Deterent :



Wish, Healing Wish & Revival Blessing

Wish :



Healing Wish :


Revival Blessing :



Others

Chilly Reception :



Toxic users :


Knock Off users :


Spore users :



2. Offensive Roles


Wallbreakers

Physical :


Special :


Mixed :



Choice Item users

Choice Band :



Choice Specs :


Choice Scarf :



Setup Sweepers

Agility :



Belly Drum :


Bulk Up :


Calm Mind :


Dragon Dance :


Iron Defense :


Nasty Plot :


Quiver Dance :



Shell Smash :


Shift Gear :


Swords Dance :



Tidy Up :


Unburden :



Priorities

Accelerock :



Aqua Jet :


Bullet Punch :


Extreme Speed :


First Impression :


Ice Shard :


Mach Punch :


Prankster :


Shadow Sneak :


Sucker Punch :



3. Defensive Roles

Walls

Physically defensive :



Specially defensive :


Mixed :



Pivots

Offensive :



Defensive :
 
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The main purpose of this thread is to provide a visual list organized by roles to see what Pokémon do what. This will help both new and experienced player in finding Pokémon which can fit their teams when looking for specific roles. Pokémon included in this thread are considered viable or have a niche in the current metagame, this list is therefore non-exhaustive and shouldn't be considered as an undeniable truth. For instance, Gengar can learn Toxic Spikes but it doesn't run this move in the current metagame, therefore it will not be included as a Toxic Spikes setter. Pokémon listed in this post are listed in alphabetical order and not based on their viability. If you think there is a Pokémon viable for the roles mentioned below and it hasn't been added to the group, then recommend it in your post with solid explanations.

1. Utility

Entry Hazards

Stealth Rock :



Spikes :


Toxic Spikes :


Sticky Web :



Hazard Control

Defog :



Rapid Spin :


Magic Bounce :


Spinblocker :


Defog Deterent :



Wish & Revival Blessing

Wish :



Revival Blessing :



Others

Chilly Reception :



Toxic users :


Knock Off users :


Spore users :



2. Offensive Roles


Wallbreakers

Physical :


Special :


Mixed :



Choice Item users

Choice Band :



Choice Specs :


Choice Scarf :



Setup Sweepers

Agility :



Belly Drum :


Bulk Up :


Calm Mind :


Dragon Dance :


Iron Defense :


Nasty Plot :


Quiver Dance :



Shell Smash :


Shift Gear :


Speed Boost :



Swords Dance :


Unburden :



Priorities

Accelerock :



Aqua Jet :


Bullet Punch :


Extreme Speed :


Ice Shard :


Mach Punch :


Prankster :


Shadow Sneak :


Sucker Punch :



3. Defensive Roles

Walls

Physically defensive :



Specially defensive :


Mixed :



Pivots

Offensive :



Defensive :



4. Miscellaneous

Rain teams

Drizzle user :


Swift Swim users :


Other abusers :

Add Kilowattrel to defog deterrent, it has competitive

Put Revavroom in Shift Gear sweepers
 

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Choice Band :
:sv/tauros-paldea-water:

I think we should definitely put Tauros-Water in this section with all these other Choice Band users, it has Wave Crash + Close Combat for some really nice stabs, a really nice priority option in Aqua Jet which can revenge mons like Pawmot, Gengar and Staraptor once they have been chipped down enough by Hazards, and great coverage in Stone Edge for mons such as Gyarados, Salamence, and Altaria and Wild Charge for the Slowtwins and Gyarados. Also doesn't always need pivots to get in, defensive typing is actually pretty nice and 70/105 physical bulk with intimidate is actually pretty damn good. All of these traits makes a mon who is very hard to wall defensively while also not being complete tinfoil paper and thus I believe deserves a spot here. Choice Band on Tauros-Water also breaks Quagsire with Close Combat, so don't worry about that being a bad match up either.
 
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hey! thx for this resource. its super helpful for me when building teams.

heres a couple of things i'd add personally:

rocks/scarf krook - good speed tier, basically plays the same as last gen but has gunk shot instead of knock

tspikes gengar/salazzle - both insane abusers of the move considering how often they force switches

specs pelipper - extremely threatening mon by itself, great on semi-rain, 2hkos/ohkos basically everything in the tier

maybe add a section for first impression (slither wing)?

mayyybe add a section for trailblaze abusers? stuff like medicham/heracross? this ones prob unnecessary but worth considering

thanks again for putting together this resource!!
 
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Maybe add sections for the other 2 weathers? Even if it’s just a sun setter and hail setter, other weathers exist and sun is really good with protosynthesis
 

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Maybe add sections for the other 2 weathers? Even if it’s just a sun setter and hail setter, other weathers exist and sun is really good with protosynthesis
I am against this, as there are 3 hail abusers (Beartic, Cetitan, and Jolteon), all of which are fringe at best, in Scarlet/Violet as of right now. As for Sun, there is no Drought setter in the game right now which means you have to rely on manual Sun. Generally, I do not think that Sun is good at the moment and should not be presented as an alternative weather to Rain.
In the "Choice Specs" and "Offensive Pivot" sections, Iron Jugulis' sprite is also broken.
Personally I would advise against adding Sylveon as a Choice Specs user because it's probably not very good but since the metagame is brand-new I suppose it's probably fine to keep and then edit it out later if the need arises. Another suggestion: maybe put some of the Pokémon that are less good at their roles in brackets? For example, sure Pelipper is a defensive pivot, but it's not really going to be used on a balance team and will likley almost exclusively see usage on Rain teams, as it did in Generation 8 when it dropped for a short period of time. Same goes for Barraskewda in the Choice Band category, I see little reason to not just use Floatzel.
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Thank you for taking the time to assemble this and great work on it!
 

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Thanks for making this moute.
I thought it might be useful for healing wish users to have a section, or perhaps have them as part of the section with revival blessing and wish.
 
can Iron Jugulis be a knock off user. it can use it on boots sets to pivot in and out and cripple would be checks such as scream tail, tinkaton, blissey, florges, rotom-wash, talon, umbreon, etc
 
I am against this, as there are 3 hail abusers (Beartic, Cetitan, and Jolteon), all of which are fringe at best, in Scarlet/Violet as of right now. As for Sun, there is no Drought setter in the game right now which means you have to rely on manual Sun. Generally, I do not think that Sun is good at the moment and should not be presented as an alternative weather to Rain.
I specifically said that it wasn’t as good but should still be shown as it is still a team type you can use. And I think hail and sun hasn’t been shown used enough to tell how good of a strategy it is, as all the paradox pokemon can in theory abuse sun with their abilities.
 

Aqua Jet

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I specifically said that it wasn’t as good
What did you mean by this:
sun is really good with protosynthesis
While Protosynthesis may make Sun seem tempting, I still do not think it is worth giving a section to on the role compendium because of the fact that its inconsistent and relies on the manual setting of weather. The fact that one of the few Pokémon with Protosynthesis also have midding offensive stats, and that two of the others are insanely slow (although I suppose it is worth mentioning that Slither Wing is able to bypass its low speed for a turn due to First Impression.

Snow is definitely not going to be good as the main reason to ever use Hail in Generation 8 UnderUsed (the only other recent generation where full Hail is remotely viable) is to hit extremely hard with Arctovish and to a lesser extent, Sandslash-Alola. Snow currently has 4 abusers (if we're counting Jolteon -- I initially missed Kilowattrel), one of which has 50 base speed with no secondary typing or move that hits particularly hard, and another one is Jolteon. This leaves Cetitian and Kilowatteral as the only "real" snow abusers, and I do not think that their attributes warrant being presented to newer players as a viable playstyle they can try to build / play with as of right now, especially given that one of them is probably stopped by both of our main Water-types. The fact that the tier has both Quagsire and Gastrodon, coupled with the fact that both are actually good does Kilowatteral no favors.
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If you want to discuss this further, I'm in the UnderUsed Discord as Aqua Jet and my discord tag is Aiyaru#8851 if you'd prefer to discuss in PMs. I hope you take me up on my offer -- I do enjoy talking about this with you!
 

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Add Kilowattrel to defog deterrent, it has competitive

Put Revavroom in Shift Gear sweepers
Even tho it's true that Kilowattrel has the ability Competitive, it trully doesn't want to run it in the current state of the metagame. There isn't a lot of defoggers and Kilowattrel really wants its Electric-type immunity provided by Volt Absorb. In the same way, Revavroom is indeed a Shift Gear user but its offensive set is kinda bad not gonna lie. It's a Pokémon which must use the Terastallization in order to be effective. Its movepool really sucks and this leads it to not be able to beat common our common Water + Ground-types (Quagsire and Gastrodon) without running both Terastallization Grass and Tera Blast. It even struggles to beat things like Hippowdon or Sandy Shocks without it. On the other hand, outside of Bulldoze which is a terrible move, it doesn't have anything to hit Steel-types, thus it struggles to bypass things such as Lucario, Bisharp or Foretress without Terastallization Ground/Fire + Tera Blast (Fire is needed to beat Bronzong).

:sv/tauros-paldea-water:

I think we should definitely put Tauros-Water in this section with all these other Choice Band users, it has Wave Crash + Close Combat for some really nice stabs, a really nice priority option in Aqua Jet which can revenge mons like Pawmot, Gengar and Staraptor once they have been chipped down enough by Hazards, and great coverage in Stone Edge for mons such as Gyarados, Salamence, and Altaria and Wild Charge for the Slowtwins and Gyarados. Also doesn't always need pivots to get in, defensive typing is actually pretty nice and 70/105 physical bulk with intimidate is actually pretty damn good. All of these traits makes a mon who is very hard to wall defensively while also not being complete tinfoil paper and thus I believe deserves a spot here. Choice Band on Tauros-Water also breaks Quagsire with Close Combat, so don't worry about that being a bad match up either.
Added to Choice Band user + physical wallbreaker.
hey! thx for this resource. its super helpful for me when building teams.

heres a couple of things i'd add personally:

rocks/scarf krook - good speed tier, basically plays the same as last gen but has gunk shot instead of knock

tspikes gengar/salazzle - both insane abusers of the move considering how often they force switches

specs pelipper - extremely threatening mon by itself, great on semi-rain, 2hkos/ohkos basically everything in the tier

maybe add a section for first impression (slither wing)?

mayyybe add a section for trailblaze abusers? stuff like medicham/heracross? this ones prob unnecessary but worth considering

thanks again for putting together this resource!!
All those things have been added except the Trailblaze user part. The First Impression Slither Wind was definitively a omission of my part.
Add:
  • Venomoth to Special Sweepers / Quiver Dance users
  • A section for Will-O-Wisp and maybe Twave users?
Venomoth was added. For the T-Wave / WoW users, I feel like it's too early to add it (not sure it's also worth it). I added Toxic and Knock Off users due to the massive cutoff we got between Generation 8 and Generation 9.
Maybe add sections for the other 2 weathers? Even if it’s just a sun setter and hail setter, other weathers exist and sun is really good with protosynthesis
Hail/Snow and Sun are quite tough to play at the moment, especially with Sand Stream and Drizzle users such as Hippowdon and Pelipper. If we had Torkoal, I will have added a part for Sun teams but without a Drought user, it's quite tough to justify it (even with Pokémon like Slither Wing which can activate their ability with the Sun). Hail/Snow team are not a thing at all atm, the only "real" abuser is Cetitan alongside Slowking with Chilly Reception but it's more a gimmick core based on Hail/Snow than a real archetype.
I am against this, as there are 3 hail abusers (Beartic, Cetitan, and Jolteon), all of which are fringe at best, in Scarlet/Violet as of right now. As for Sun, there is no Drought setter in the game right now which means you have to rely on manual Sun. Generally, I do not think that Sun is good at the moment and should not be presented as an alternative weather to Rain.
In the "Choice Specs" and "Offensive Pivot" sections, Iron Jugulis' sprite is also broken.
Personally I would advise against adding Sylveon as a Choice Specs user because it's probably not very good but since the metagame is brand-new I suppose it's probably fine to keep and then edit it out later if the need arises. Another suggestion: maybe put some of the Pokémon that are less good at their roles in brackets? For example, sure Pelipper is a defensive pivot, but it's not really going to be used on a balance team and will likley almost exclusively see usage on Rain teams, as it did in Generation 8 when it dropped for a short period of time. Same goes for Barraskewda in the Choice Band category, I see little reason to not just use Floatzel.
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Thank you for taking the time to assemble this and great work on it!
I don't see any issues on my side with Iron Jugulis sprite. It's also too early to really make a difference between the good and the niche users, that's why I didn't make a separation yet. I strongly disagree on the Barraskewda vs Floatzel part. While it's true that Floatzel hits harder than Barraskewda thanks to Wave Crash, this leads it to die much more quicker since it's wearing down itself. Barraskewda has also a better speed tier and hits stronger than Floatzel on any move except Wave Crash, it has a stronger Liquidation and much better coverage options.
Thanks for making this moute.
I thought it might be useful for healing wish users to have a section, or perhaps have them as part of the section with revival blessing and wish.
You forgot to add the section for clerics for status healing. Oh wait...
Indeed it's an omission on my part. I added Healing Wish users. but also Chansey line as Heal Bell users.
can Iron Jugulis be a knock off user. it can use it on boots sets to pivot in and out and cripple would be checks such as scream tail, tinkaton, blissey, florges, rotom-wash, talon, umbreon, etc
This was added !

Thanks to all the people who already post. I greatly appreciate your investment and contribution proposals !
 
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I'm wondering about Mismagius as a Nasty Plot sweeper. Tera Electric + Levitate = no weaknesses. This typing and ability plus a solid special attack and movepool makes it particularly interesting to me. Thoughts from others?

Sample Set

Mismagius @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 8 Def / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Taunt
 

plznostep

Flittle Fanatic
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Others

Chilly Reception :



Toxic users :


Knock Off users :


Spore users :
Just a suggestion; Screens seems like a really big part of the meta rn with Klefki, Morgrem and Espeon being quite popular to set them ,so maybe for more inexperienced players who don't know these setters, we could add a section for Screens in the Others part for Utility so they can have an easier time building screens?
 

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I think :grafaiai: should be here instead (Grafaiai)


Prankster :
Not sure if it's worth your effort, but flagging you might want to consider putting the mons name down as well by each sprite? Purely for ctrl+f purposes. But people tend to search by role I assume, not mons, so this might not be worth your time.

 

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Just a suggestion; Screens seems like a really big part of the meta rn with Klefki, Morgrem and Espeon being quite popular to set them ,so maybe for more inexperienced players who don't know these setters, we could add a section for Screens in the Others part for Utility so they can have an easier time building screens?
Will wait a bit on this one to see which Screen setters stand out.
what is palafin doing under stealth rocks and chien pao, while koraidon is und3er spikes
Serebii fucked up and changed the ID for a lot of 9th Generation Pokémon. Basically yesterday smth like Scream Tail was n°982 and now it's 985 so it fucked up everything. I'm editing the thing to fix the issue.

EDIT : Everything should be fixed now.
I think :grafaiai: should be here instead (Grafaiai)



Not sure if it's worth your effort, but flagging you might want to consider putting the mons name down as well by each sprite? Purely for ctrl+f purposes. But people tend to search by role I assume, not mons, so this might not be worth your time.
I'll probably not do it to be honest (because this would be too messy to read with both sprites and Pokémon name). The purpose of the thread is to help people who're looking already for which Pokémon can fulfil a specific role. Thus I tend to think people scroll on this thread for let's say a Choice Scarf user and will look at the one mentionned, not in the other way.
 
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I assume Cetitan is meant to be the other BD user and not the Bramble. Probably the same issue with serebii changing the sprites you mentioned above.
 

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I assume Cetitan is meant to be the other BD user and not the Bramble. Probably the same issue with serebii changing the sprites you mentioned above.
Fixed, thanks !
I'm wondering about Mismagius as a Nasty Plot sweeper. Tera Electric + Levitate = no weaknesses. This typing and ability plus a solid special attack and movepool makes it particularly interesting to me. Thoughts from others?

Sample Set

Mismagius @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 8 Def / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Taunt
Sorry, I just saw that I'm missed your post. It's quite tough to justify to use Mismagius as long as Gengar is in the same tier. It's both stronger and faster. Sure you don't have Levitate immunity but that doesn't compensate for the stats difference.
 
Could add Lilligant to quiver dancers as it has 20 extra base SpA over Venomoth and slightly better bulk (lol, lmao) and leech seed/giga drain

(Don't look at me funny, all the quiver dancers are bad)
 

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Could add Lilligant to quiver dancers as it has 20 extra base SpA over Venomoth and slightly better bulk (lol, lmao) and leech seed/giga drain

(Don't look at me funny, all the quiver dancers are bad)
While it's true that on paper Lilligant is more appealing thanks to more special attack and the tool you mentionned, it has a major issue : it doesn't have any coverage which means it's a Pokémon that's 100% rely on Terastallization to be "effective". Back in time, it was forced to run Hidden Power in order to extend its coverage and it's pretty much the same now. While Venomoth isn't that great either, it has at least "some" coverage and the ability to hit Pokémon which resist its STABs thanks to Tinted Lens. On the other hand, Lilligant can't really do anything to Pokémon which handle its moves.
 

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