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We all know about Evolution, the Pokémon experiences a change that follows no rules. It may become faster or slower, better or worse at taking hits, become much stronger or stay almost the same, but what would happen if a Pokémon experienced this change but with twice the power?
The main rule:
This metagame gives major boosts to most Pokémon that are part of an evolution line, introducing all kinds of behemoths with power comparable to and often surpassing the cover legendaries. They should be able to balance each other out enough for different kinds of play styles to exist, from full stall to hyper offense.
Increased Viability:
Pokémon with really weak pre-evolutions get massive boosts, many like Tsareena and Gallade get around 200 points, this leave them at around 700 BST, and very few like Golisopod and Noivern can get over 800 BST.
Some already strong Pokémon don't need huge boosts to keep up with the crazy powercreep of this tier, thanks to already high stats all the pseudo-legendaries are now stronger than cover legendaries!
Some middle stage Pokémon receive a bigger bonus than their evolutions, and thanks to Eviolite their defensive power becomes absurd, so keep in mind those who gain huge amounts of defense upon evolving like Doublade and Dottler and those who used to be fully evolved like Piloswine and Magneton.
Decreased Viability:
If you aren't a member of an evolution line, then there is nothing I can do for you, most Pokémon without a pre-evolution will have problems trying to keep up with the EXTREME powercreep.
Some Pokémon don't change much upon evolving, some like Alakazam and Gengar have really strong pre-evolutions so the boost they receive isn't that big, this also happens a lot with cross-gen evolutions, for example Weavile only gets a minor boost upon evolving and Scizor stay with the same BST it has in standard play as it gains as much as it loses.
Clauses: Obtainable, Team Preview, Sleep Clause Mod, Species Clause, Nickname Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Moves Clause, Endless Battle Clause, HP Percentage Mod, Cancel Mod, Overflow Stat Mod, Dynamax Clause
Pokémon:
21/06/2022 - Toxapex, Darmanitan-Galar and Milotic quickbanned
02/07/2022 - Frosmoth and Toxapex unbanned by council vote
08/07/2022 - Naganadel quickbanned by council vote
25/07/2022 - Urshifu-Single-Strike quickbanned
06/08/2022 - Calyrex-Shadow and Slowking-Galar quickbanned by council vote
Resources:
Council:
KaenSoul (leader)
Cratersmash
Discord:
https://discord.gg/ZvxQFfFz6n
Playability:
ROM
Use "Re-Evolution Mod" as rule to challenge on main.
Documents:
Spreadsheet with the Complete Re-Evolution statlist by Clastia
Check stats quickly with the command
Role Compendium
Sample Teams and Viability Ranking
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Re-Evolution
We all know about Evolution, the Pokémon experiences a change that follows no rules. It may become faster or slower, better or worse at taking hits, become much stronger or stay almost the same, but what would happen if a Pokémon experienced this change but with twice the power?
The main rule:
- Pokémon gain base stats equal to the difference with their previous stage.
- Only the previous stage is used to calculate the stats gained, Ex: Ludicolo gain 140 BST upon evolving from Lombre, it doesn't gain the difference it has with Lotad.
For a Pokémon to count as the evolution of another it has to be able to evolve into it in the main line games, Melmetal can't evolve from Meltan and isn't coded as it's evolution in Sword & Shield, meanwhile Alolan-Marowak, despite being unable to evolve from Cubone in Sword & Shield, was able to do so in a previous generation and is therefore boosted.
Base stats cap at 1 and 255.
Because that the Overflow Stat Mod was implemented, any Pokémon's actual stats cap at 654, so be careful to not waste EVs trying to get higher than that.
Battle only forms take the new stats from the base form and then recieve their regular stats changes, Ex: For Aegislash-Sword, do the math for Shield (61/1/130/55/231/85) then add 90 Atk/Sp.Atk and remove 90 Def/Sp.Def (61/91/40/145/141/85).
This metagame gives major boosts to most Pokémon that are part of an evolution line, introducing all kinds of behemoths with power comparable to and often surpassing the cover legendaries. They should be able to balance each other out enough for different kinds of play styles to exist, from full stall to hyper offense.
Increased Viability:
Pokémon with really weak pre-evolutions get massive boosts, many like Tsareena and Gallade get around 200 points, this leave them at around 700 BST, and very few like Golisopod and Noivern can get over 800 BST. Some already strong Pokémon don't need huge boosts to keep up with the crazy powercreep of this tier, thanks to already high stats all the pseudo-legendaries are now stronger than cover legendaries! Some middle stage Pokémon receive a bigger bonus than their evolutions, and thanks to Eviolite their defensive power becomes absurd, so keep in mind those who gain huge amounts of defense upon evolving like Doublade and Dottler and those who used to be fully evolved like Piloswine and Magneton.Decreased Viability:
If you aren't a member of an evolution line, then there is nothing I can do for you, most Pokémon without a pre-evolution will have problems trying to keep up with the EXTREME powercreep. Some Pokémon don't change much upon evolving, some like Alakazam and Gengar have really strong pre-evolutions so the boost they receive isn't that big, this also happens a lot with cross-gen evolutions, for example Weavile only gets a minor boost upon evolving and Scizor stay with the same BST it has in standard play as it gains as much as it loses.Clauses: Obtainable, Team Preview, Sleep Clause Mod, Species Clause, Nickname Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Moves Clause, Endless Battle Clause, HP Percentage Mod, Cancel Mod, Overflow Stat Mod, Dynamax Clause
Pokémon:
Calyrex-Shadow
Darmanitan-Galar
Gyarados
Lunala
Milotic
Naganadel
Slowking-Galar
Solgaleo
Urshifu-Single-Strike
Volcarona
Zacian-Crowned
Baton Pass
Arena Trap
Moody
Sand Veil
Shadow Tag
Snow Cloak
Bright Powder
King's Rock
Lax Incense
- Nothing!
21/06/2022 - Toxapex, Darmanitan-Galar and Milotic quickbanned
02/07/2022 - Frosmoth and Toxapex unbanned by council vote
08/07/2022 - Naganadel quickbanned by council vote
25/07/2022 - Urshifu-Single-Strike quickbanned
06/08/2022 - Calyrex-Shadow and Slowking-Galar quickbanned by council vote
Resources:
Council:
KaenSoul (leader) CratersmashDiscord:
https://discord.gg/ZvxQFfFz6n
Playability:
ROM
Use "Re-Evolution Mod" as rule to challenge on main.
/challenge gen8ubers @@@ Re-Evolution Mod, -Solgaleo, -Lunala, -Gyarados, -Milotic, -Darmanitan-Galar, -Volcarona, -Naganadel, -Urshifu-Base, -Calyrex-Shadow, -Slowking-Galar, +Zacian-Base, -Arena Trap, -Sand Veil, -Snow Cloak, -Bright Powder, -King's Rock, -Lax Incense Documents:
Spreadsheet with the Complete Re-Evolution statlist by Clastia
Check stats quickly with the command
/reevo [pokemon] on the main server!Role Compendium
Sample Teams and Viability Ranking
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Scrafty Balance by rarre
Drednaw rain by rarre
Umbreon + Goli balance by Quziel
HO by KaenSoul
Trick Room by KaenSoul
Palossand stall by Byleth
Hippowdown
Hydreigon
Bisharp
Excadrill
Heliolisk
Kyogre
Zacian
Amoonguss
Dragapult
Crawdaunt
Espeon
Kommo-o
Lucario
Lycanroc-Dusk
Starmie
Xerneas
Zygarde
Blissey
Chandelure
Darmanitan
Hitmonlee
Toxicroak
Vaporeon
Azumarill
Blaziken
Calyrex-Ice
Marowak-Alola
Salamence
Sylveon
Barbaracle
Bewear
Braviary
Copperajah
Ditto
Dusclops
Escavalier
Eternatus
Hitmontop
Mantine
Nidoking
Noctowl
Sandaconda
Steelix
Tangrowth
Tentacruel
Cloyster
Diggersby
Drifblim
Exeggutor
Exeggutor-Alola
Giratina
Jellicent
Malamar
Ninetales
Obstagoon
Seismitoad
Slowbro-Galar
Slurpuff
Venusaur
Whimsicott
Zekrom
Zoroark
Aegislash
Beartic
Cinderace
Coalossal
Eldegoss
Galvantula
Incineroar
Jolteon
Kyurem-White
Linoone
Omastar
Roserade
Sandslash-Alola
Shedinja
Xatu
Yveltal
this is not a gimmick
idk how to put girl jellicent here (#girlloss)
