Project Personal ZU Viability Rankings

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Personal ZU Viability Rankings
:Mr Mime-Galar: :Gourgeist: :Corsola: :Dusclops: :Shiinotic: :Klang: :Machoke: :Mr Mime: :Linoone-Galar: :Shedinja:
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The dynamic path of the ZU tier in the beginning of generation 8 and the fundamentally subjective nature of tiering lead to a cohabitation of different opinions between players regarding the ranking of Pokémon. Each person has their own style, tests different niche Pokémon, or enjoys playing some archetypes rather than others, which gives rise to an individual point of view on the evolution of the metagame. I invite players in this thread to share their own viability rankings about ZU and eventually to give explanations regarding the position of different Pokémon.

Rules :

  1. This thread is destined to be a serious resource. Please be relevant in keeping your posts related to your personal ZU Viability Rankings.​
  2. To show the icon of a Pokemon, you have to write its full name between two two points. For example, for Mr Mime-Galar :Mr Mime-Galar:
  3. You don't need to explain the position of every Pokemon, especially if it's at the same rank as the official Viability Rankings.​
 
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Hello, very rushed list but most of it is right. I got rid of lots of C rank mons then added even more lol. Been hanging around with oran too much.
Edit: names added sorry for no alalphabetical order as I dont know the alphabet


S
:Gourgeist-Large:Gourgeist-Large

A+
:dusclops:
Dusclops
:machoke:Machoke
:Mr. Mime-Galar:Mr. Mime-Galar
:Klang:Klang
A
:Mr. Mime:Mr.Mime
:persian:Persian
:Linoone-Galar:Linoone-galar
:Silvally:Silvally-Ice
:Corsola:Corsola

A-
:eiscue:Eiscue
:wartortle:Wartortle
:Pyukumuku:Pyukumuku
:Oranguru:Oranguru
:vullaby:Vullaby
:Farfetch’d:Farfetch’d
:Gothitelle:Gothitelle

B+
:Lunatone:Lunatone
:solrock:solrock
:charjabug:charjabug
:Krokorok:Krokorok
:gloom: gloom
:ivysaur: ivysaur
:Shiinotic: Shiinoti
:trubbish: trubbish
:Shedinja: Shedinja


B
:Cufant:Cufant
:Hippopotas: Hippopotas
:whiscash: whiscash
:seadra: seadra
:Palpitoad: Palpitoad
:morgrem: morgrem
:beartic: beartic
:Duosion: Duosion
:dartrix: dartrix
:maractus: maractus
:Drakloak: Drakloak
:glalie: glalie
:gastly: gastly
:abra:abra
:onix:onix
:Hakamo-o:Hakamo-o
:sudowoodo:sudowoodo
:zweilous:zweilous
:Lickitung:Lickitung

B-
:bronzor: bronzor
:frillish:frillish
:mudbray: mudbray
:natu: natu
:lampent: lampent
:octillery: octillery
:rufflet: rufflet
:Swirlix: Swirlix
:Jigglypuff: Jigglypuff
:torracat: torracat


C
:greedent: greedent
:munchlax: munchlax
:Sliggoo: Sliggoo
:Vulpix-Alola: Vulpix-Alola
:dwebble: dwebble
:grookey: grookey
:Scorbunny: Scorbunny
:marill: marill
:magnemite: magnemite
:Carvanha: Carvanha
:stunky: stunky
:Fletchinder: Fletchinder
:Porygon: Porygo
:Mienfoo: Mienfoo
:Slowpoke: Slowpoke
:Sandygast: Sandygast
:Diglett: Diglett
:drilbur: drilbur
:koffing: koffing
:Tentacool: Tentacool

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8zu-1151704323
 
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lepton

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my personal vr. only b- and up because im not confident enough to rank those. also b is lumped together for the same reason. no order in tiers, and probably (definitely) very inaccurate. also there is a lot of stuff in B that idk if they should be there but i havent seen them enough to remove them.

S
:gourgeist: Gourgeist-L
:mr_mime-galar: Mr. Mime-Galar

A+
:Machoke: Machoke
:dusclops: Dusclops

A
:Klang: Klang
:persian: Persian
:Shedinja: Shedinja
:Charjabug: Charjabug
:Wartortle: Wartortle
:mr_mime: Mr. Mime
:corsola: Corsola
:farfetch Farfetch'd

A-
:Linoone_Galar: Linoone-G
:Lunatone: Lunatone
:Silvally: Silvally-Ice
:Solrock: Solrock
:Eiscue: Eiscue
:shiinotic: Shiinotic
:Oranguru: Oranguru
:Vullaby: Vullaby
:pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:krokorok: Krokorok

B
:gothitelle: Gothitelle
:Gloom: Gloom
:Whiscash: Whiscash
:Cufant: Cufant
:Dartrix: Dartrix
:Hippopotas: Hippopotas
:Ivysaur: Ivysaur
:Maractus: Maractus
:Morgrem: Morgrem
:Beartic: Beartic
:Duosion: Duosion
:Drakloak: Drakloak
:gastly: Gastly
:Glalie: Glalie
:Hakamo-o: Hakamo-o
:Onix: Onix
:Scraggy: Scraggy
:Sudowoodo: Sudowoodo
:Zweilous: Zweilous
:frillish: Frillish
:Mudbray: Mudbray
:Natu: Natu
:Octillery: Octillery
:rufflet: Rufflet
:Torracat: Torracat
:trubbish: Trubbish
:swirlix: Swirlix
:palpitoad: Palpitoad
:seadra: Seadra
 
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My personal opinion, since I haven't personally tested some of these pokemon, my primary evaluation strategy was to determine the most centralizing pokemon and evaluate the rest of the tier based on their viability against them (as you can see, dark types tend to do well, since there is a multitude of very good ghosts and psychics):

--Ordered within tiers--
S
:Gourgeist-Large: All Hail King Gourg

A+
:Gothitelle:Gothitelle: pretty strong wincon with few real checks
:dusclops:Dusclops: special wall resttalker and pseudo-offensive spinblocker

A
:Linoone-Galar:Linoone-Galar: Best Dark in the tier, mandatory A, very versatile
:Mr. Mime:Mr. Mime: the underrated, actually more effective Mime
:Machoke: Machoke: Very good stallbreaker, unfortunate speed tier
:Oranguru:Oranguru: Ghost immunity, amazing coverage
:Silvally-Ice: Silvally-Ice: versatile, one of the best physical sweepers, great special movepool
:Mr. Mime-Galar:Mr. Mime-Galar: Overrated Mime

A-
:vullaby:Vullaby: Dark type, offensive Gourg check, hazard remover
:Morgrem: Morgrem: np, super useful dual STAB, priority status user
:persian:Persian: worse Linoone-G except for Fake Out, which is one of the best moves in the tier
:Pyukumuku:Pyukumuku.
:Klang:Klang: Good typing, solid resttalker
:Farfetch’d:Farfetch'd: Very versatile, fantastic priority, slow + frail and weak to rocks
:Corsola:Corsola: Very solid longevity = very solid rocker, also a physical chipper
:ivysaur:Ivysaur: Knock off + recovery + beats most stall pokemon
:Cufant:Cufant: Steel + solid offensive prowess + rocks

B+
:gloom:Gloom: bulkier ivysaur without knock off
:trubbish:Trubbish: only relevant tspiker, can also use spikes
:Krokorok:Krokorok: Pressures psychics and ghosts and can set rocks, frail
:Shiinotic:Shiinotic: Gloom with worse typing and better statusing
:octillery:Octillery: Amazing Stallbreaker, slow and HATES chip damage
:rufflet:Rufflet: Glass cannon: band/scarf, amazing but frail stallbreaker
:lampent:Lampent: trick user, very useful STAB
:seadra:Seadra: best offensive water due to good speed tier, decent SpA, and easy switch out potential
:natu:Natu: Magic Bounce

--In a much more relative order--
B
:eiscue:Eiscue
:wartortle:Wartortle
:whiscash:Whiscash
:sudowoodo:Sudowoodo
:torracat:Torracat
:Duosion:Duosion
:dartrix:Dartrix
:Lickitung:Lickitung
:zweilous:Zweilous
:solrock:Solrock
:Hippopotas:Hippopotas
:charjabug:Charjabug
:beartic:Beartic
:Lunatone:Lunatone
:glalie:Glalie
:Hakamo-o:Hakamo-o
:frillish:Frillish
:mudbray:Mudbray
:dwebble:Dwebble
:stunky:Stunky

B-
:Spritzee:Spritzee
:Palpitoad:Palpitoad
:onix:Onix
:Tentacool:Tentacool
:Shedinja:Shedinja
:maractus:Maractus
:Drakloak:Drakloak
:gastly:Gastly
:bronzor:Bronzor
:Swirlix:Swirlix
:Jigglypuff:Jigglypuff
:Porygon:Porygon


C
Basically everything else, feel free to let me know if I forgot anything!
 
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Cheezy

wokeuplikethis*
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S Rank:

S

:Gourgeist: Gourgeist-Large

A Rank:

A+

:dusclops: Dusclops
:mr mime-galar: Mr Mime-G

A

:linoone-galar: Linoone-G
:machoke: Machoke
:Mr mime: Mr Mime
:silvally: Silvally-Ice

A-

:cufant: Cufant
:Farfetch Farfetch'd
:klang: Klang
:Pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:shiinotic: Shiinotic
:vullaby: Vullaby

B Rank:

B+

:corsola: Corsola
:eiscue: Eiscue
:gothitelle: Gothitelle
:Ivysaur: Ivysaur
:krokorok: Krokorok
:oranguru: Oranguru
:Persian: Persian
:trubbish: Trubbish
:whiscash: Whiscash

B

:gloom: Gloom
:hippopotas: Hippopotas
:Lickitung: Lickitung
:morgrem: Morgrem
:natu: Natu
:Shedinja: Shedinja
:solrock: Solrock
:torracat: Torrcat
:wartortle: Wartortle
:zweilous: Zweilous

B-

:Beartic: Beartic
:charjabug: Charjabug
:duosion:
Duosion
:gastly: Gastly
:glalie: Glalie
:hakamo-o: Hakomo-o
:lunatone: Lunatone
:mudbray: Mudbray
:palpitoad: Palpitoad
:rufflet: Rufflet
:seadra: Seadra
:swirlix: Swirlix

C Rank:

C+

:dartrix: Dartrix
:fletchinder: Fletchinder
:Greedent: Greedent
:hatenna: Hatenna
:jigglypuff: Jigglypuff
:koffing: Koffing
:lampent: Lampent
:maractus: Maractus
:marill: Marill
:munchlax: Munchlax
:octillery: Octillery
:onix: Onix
:sliggoo: Sliggoo
:sudowoodo: Sudowoodo
:tentacool: Tentacool

C

:bronzor: Bronzor
:drakloak: Drakloak
:dwebble: Dwebble
:Frillish: Frillish
:honedge: Honedge
:magnemite: Magnemite
:mienfoo: Mienfoo
:porygon: Porygon
:scraggy: Scraggy
:slowpoke: Slowpoke
:staryu: Staryu
:Stufful: Stufful
:stunky: Stunky

C-

:abra: Abra
:chinchou: Chinchou
:Grookey: Grookey
:scorbunny: Scorbunny
:shellos: Shellos
:skorupi: Skorupi
:vulpix-alola: Vulpix-A

D (this is basically UR mons, but I wanted to mention them as well)

:delibird: Delibird
:dottler: Dottler
:drilbur: Drilbur
:pupitar: Pupitar
:sinistea: Sinistea
:wailord: Wailord

Please let me know if I missed any important Pokemon, or if I should change something on this VR.
 
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Tuthur

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S
:gourgeist:Gourgeist-L - The best Pokémon by far in ZU, it has great stats ad typing, access to powerful STAB moves and has 4 extremly good sets.
:mr_mime-galar:Galarian Mr. Mime - Very useful in offense with Rapid Spin and Healing Wish. It is also a deadly sweeper thanks to Nasty Plot + Rapid Spin.

A+
:dusclops:Dusclops - The best special songe in ZU, it fits on every team which isn't HO and thansk to Poltergeist, isn't passive.
:machoke:Machoke - Very powerfull tank and wallbreaker, that can absorb status and cripple its checks with Knock Off.
:klang:Klang - It walls most attackers that don't have a super effective move, can pivot with Volt Switch or be a threatening cleaner with Shift Gear.

A
:farfetchd: Farfetch'd - The most difficult Pokemon to switch into atm, powerful revenge killer with First Impression. Its biggest issue is its low bulk.
:linoone-galar:Galarian Linoone - Great stallbreaker and fast pivot, that has great resists and one of the most threatening Knock Off.
:oranguru:Oranguru - Very good stallbreaker that has a coveted Ghost-immunity, great bulk and access to Focus Blast to deal with Dark-types.
:mr_mime:Mr. Mime - Best Scarfer in the tier and very threatening wallbreaker with either Specs or Nasty Plot.
:persian:Persian - Fastest Pokemon available, extremely good pivot and revenge killer.
:gothitelle:Gothitelle - Very versatile special attacker, that is a great asset for offensive and defensive teams focused on hazard.

A-
:vullaby:Vullaby - Best defogger, most reliable Psychic-resists, great defensive pivot and the best Gourgeist-L counter.
:wartortle:Wartortle - Deadly sweeper once Dusclops is out.
:eiscue:Eiscue - Underplayed but still has threatening as ever.
:ivysaur:Ivysaur - Incredible stallbreaker that has very usefull resistances, being able to check some Gourgeist-L and Machoke.
:trubbish:Trubbish - Best Spikes/Toxic Spikes setter in the tier, hazard stacking balance arround it is one of the most potent playstyle atm.
:silvally-ice:Silvally-Ice - Great Swords Dance user and pivot, but it is limited by its terrible typing.

B+
:pyukumuku:Pyukumuku
:solrock:Solrock
:charjabug:Charjabug
:shedinja:Shedinja
:krokorok:Krokorok
:whiscash:Whiscash

B
:shiinotic:Shiinotic
:palpitoad:Palpitoad
:corsola:Corsola
:lunatone:Lunatone
:natu:Natu
:gloom:Gloom
:cufant:Cufant
:morgrem:Morgrem
:lickitung:Lickitung
:beartic:Beartic
:swirlix:Swirlix

B-
:hippopotas:Hippopotas
:hakamo-o:Hakamo-o
:dartrix:Dartrix
:zweilous:Zweilous
:scraggy:Scraggy
:torracat:Torracat
:mienfoo:Mienfoo
:rufflet:Rufflet

C+
:octillery:Octillery
:lampent:Lampent
:drakloak:Drakloak
:bronzor:Bronzor
:glalie:Glalie
:onix:Onix
:duosion:Duosion
:sudowoodo:Sudowoodo
:gastly:Gastly
:seadra:Seadra

C
:hatenna:Hatenna
:frillish:Frillish
:maractus:Maractus
:mudbray:Mudbray
:porygon:Porygon
:greedent:Greedent
:marill:Marill
:munchlax:Munchlax
:carvanha:Carvanha
:tentacool:Tentacool
:magnemite:Magnemite

C-
:fletchinder:Fletchinder
:dwebble:Dwebble
:stunky:Stunky
:sliggoo:Sliggoo
:delibird:Delibird
:honedge:Honedge
:skorupi:Skorupi
:jigglypuff:Jigglypuff
:slowpoke:Slowpoke
:vulpix-alola:Alolan Vulpix
:grookey:Grookey
 
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OranBerryBlissey10

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NUPL Champion
S
:Gourgeist:Gourgeist-Large

A+
:Machoke:Machoke
:Dusclops:Dusclops
:Mr. Mime-Galar:Mr. Mime-Galar
:Klang:Klang

A
:Oranguru:Oranguru
:Wartortle:Wartortle
:Linoone-Galar:Linoone-Galar
:Mr. Mime:Mr. Mime
:Gothitelle:Gothitelle
:Pyukumuku:Pyukumuku

A-
:Eiscue:Eiscue
:Persian:Persian
:Corsola:Corsola
:Shiinotic:Shiinotic
:Silvally-Ice:Silvally-Ice
:Charjabug:Charjabug
:Lunatone:Lunatone
:Morgrem:Morgrem
:Vullaby:Vullaby
:Rufflet:Rufflet
:Lampent:Lampent

B+
:Gloom:Gloom
:Beartic:Beartic
:Dartrix:Dartrix
:Duosion:Duosion
:Farfetch Farfetch'd
:Ivysaur:Ivysaur
:Octillery:Octillery
:Lickitung:Lickitung

B
:Whiscash:Whiscash
:Maractus:Maractus
:Gastly:Gastly
:Hakamo-o:Hakamo-o
:Zweilous:Zweilous
:Scraggy:Scraggy
:Sudowoodo:Sudowoodo
:Natu:Natu
:Greedent:Greedent
:Krokorok:Krokorok
:Porygon:Porygon

B-
:Cufant:Cufant
:Palpitoad:Palpitoad
:Hippopotas:Hippopotas
:Glalie:Glalie
:Solrock:Solrock
:Torracat:Torracat
:Munchlax:Munchlax
:Shedinja:Shedinja
:Sliggoo:Sliggoo
:Trubbish:Trubbish
:Vulpix-Alola:Vulpix-Alola
:Fletchinder:Fletchinder
:Marill:Marill
:Magnemite:Magnemite
:Mienfoo:Mienfoo

C+
:Mudbray:Mudbray
:Honedge:Honedge
:Seadra:Seadra
:Abra:Abra
:Koffing:Koffing
:Slowpoke:Slowpoke
:Staryu:Staryu
:Stufful:Stufful

C
:Drakloak:Drakloak
:Onix:Onix
:Frillish:Frillish
:Cherrim:Cherrim
:Wailord:Wailord
:Dwebble:Dwebble
:Grookey:Grookey
:Sandshrew-Alola:Sandshrew-Alola
:Sandygast:Sandygast
:Shellos:Shellos
:Shelmet:Shelmet
:Snover:Snover
:Stunky:Stunky
:Tentacool:Tentacool

C-
:Delibird:Delibird
:Pupitar:Pupitar
:Skorupi:Skorupi
:Spritzee:Spritzee
:Poliwhirl:Poliwhirl
:Carvanha:Carvanha
:Dewpider:Dewpider
:Foongus:Foongus
:Fomantis:Fomantis
:Zorua:Zorua
:Cubone:Cubone
 
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Cheezy

wokeuplikethis*
is a Top Tiering Contributor
UC told me to make another VR, and here I am. I don't have enough time to do the fancy colors btw.

S Rank:

S

:stonjourner: Stonjourner

S-

:klang: Klang

A Rank:

A+

:gourgeist: Gourgeist-Large
:trevenant: Trevenant
:pikachu: Pikachu


A

:dusclops: Dusclops
:mr mime-galar: Mr. Mime-G
:vespiquen: Vespiquen

A-

:beheeyem: Beheeyem
:bellossom: Bellossom

:fraxure: Fraxure
:Hippopotas: Hippopotas
:machoke: Machoke

:mr-mime: Mr. Mime
:raichu: Raichu
:silvally: Silvally-Ice
:stoutland: Stoutland


B Rank:

B+

:gothitelle: Gothitelle
:Grookey: Grookey
:linoone-galar: Linoone-Galar

:persian: Persian
:pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:togetic: Togetic
:trevenant: Trevenant
:vullaby: Vullaby
:Zweilous: Zweilous

B

:carkol: Carkol
:Charjabug: Charjabug
:Corsola: Corsola
:Eiscue: Eiscue
:Ivysaur: Ivysaur
:Krokorok: Krokorok
:Morgrem: Morgrem
:Oranguru: Oranguru
:Scraggy: Scraggy
:Shiinotic: Shiinotic
:Wartortle: Wartortle

B-

:Beartic: Beartic
:cufant: Cufant
:Dartrix: Dartrix
:Duosion: Duosion
:Farfetch Farfetch'd
:Gastly: Gastly
:Gloom: Gloom
:Lampent: Lampent
:Lunatone: Lunatone
:Palpitoad: Palpitoad
:Rufflet: Rufflet
:seaking: Seaking
:Shedinja: Shedinja
:Solrock: Solrock
:Torracat: Torracat
:whirlipede: Whirlipede
:Whiscash: Whiscash

C Rank:

C+

:emolga: Emolga
:Glalie: Glalie
:Greedent: Greedent
:Lickitung: Lickitung
:Octillery: Octillery
:Maractus: Maractus
:Porygon: Porygon
:Sandygast: Sandygast
:Trubbish: Trubbish

C

:dedenne: Dedenne
:dunsparce: Dunspacre
:Dwebble: Dwebble
:Hakamo-o: Hakamo-o
:Koffing: Koffing
:Magnemite: Magnemite
:Mienfoo: Mienfoo
:Mudbray: Mudbray
:Munchlax: Munchlax
:Seadra: Seadra
:Slowpoke: Slowpoke
:Staryu: Staryu
:Stufful: Stufful
:Sudowoodo: Sudowoodo
:Vulpix-Alola: Vulpix-Alola

C-

:Foongus: Foongus
:Frillish: Frillish
:Fletchinder: Fletchinder
:Honedge: Honedge
:Onix: Onix

Please tell me if I'm missing something or it's out of order.
 
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S rank:
S+
:Swoobat: Swoobat

S
:Musharna: Musharna

A rank:
A+
:Dusclops: Dusclops
:Gourgeist-large: Gourgeist-large
:Beheeyem: Beheeyem
:Stonjourner: Stonjourner

A
:Linoone-galar: Linoone-galar
:Bellossom: Bellossom
:Pikachu: Pikachu
:Stoutland: Stoutland
:Trevenant: Trevenant

A-
:Mr. Mime-galar: Mr. Mime-galar
:Mr. Mime: Mr. Mime
:Fraxure: Fraxure
:Klang: Klang
:Raichu: Raichu
:Zweilous: Zweilous
:Silvally-ice: Silvally-ice
:Grapploct: Grapploct

B rank:
B+
:Gothitelle: Gothitelle
:Hippopotas: Hippopotas
:Machoke: Machoke
:Persian: Persian
:Togetic: Togetic
:Vespiquen: Vespiquen
:Vullaby: Vullaby
:Charjabug: Charjabug
:Carkol: Carkol

B
:Pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:Corsola: Corsola
:Eiscue: Eiscue

:Farfetch Farfetch'd
:Ivysaur: Ivysaur
:Krokorok: Krokorok
:leafeon: Leafeon
:Morgrem: Morgrem
:Oranguru: Oranguru
:Natu: Natu
:Scraggy: Scraggy
:Shiinotic: Shiinotic
:Wartortle: Wartortle
:Grookey: Grookey
:seaking: Seaking
:dedenne: Dedenne
:sudowoodo: Sudowoodo


B-
:Beartic: Beartic
:cufant: Cufant
:Dartrix: Dartrix
:Duosion: Duosion
:Gastly: Gastly
:Gloom: Gloom
:Lampent: Lampent
:Lunatone: Lunatone
:Palpitoad: Palpitoad
:Rufflet: Rufflet
:Shedinja: Shedinja
:Solrock: Solrock
:Torracat: Torracat
:whirlipede: Whirlipede
:Whiscash: Whiscash
:Skorupi: Skorupi


C rank:
C+
:emolga: Emolga
:Glalie: Glalie
:Greedent: Greedent
:Lickitung: Lickitung
:Octillery: Octillery
:Maractus: Maractus
:Porygon: Porygon
:Sandygast: Sandygast
:Trubbish: Trubbish

C

:dunsparce: Dunspacre
:Dwebble: Dwebble
:Hakamo-o: Hakamo-o
:Koffing: Koffing
:lopunny: Lopunny
:Magnemite: Magnemite
:Mienfoo: Mienfoo
:Mudbray: Mudbray
:Munchlax: Munchlax
:Seadra: Seadra
:Slowpoke: Slowpoke
:Staryu: Staryu
:Stufful: Stufful
:Vulpix-Alola: Vulpix-Alola
:Stunky: Stunky

:Wailord: Wailord

C-
:Abra: Abra
:Foongus: Foongus
:Frillish: Frillish
:Fletchinder: Fletchinder
:Honedge: Honedge
:Marill: Marill
:Onix: Onix
:Shellos: Shellos
:Sliggoo: Sliggoo
:Tentacool: Tentacool
:dottler: Dottler
:Delibird: Delibird
:Hatenna: Hatenna

Please tell me if I'm missing something or it's out of order.
 
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Tuthur

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S
:musharna: Musharna
:stonjourner: Stonjourner

A+
:bellossom: Bellossom
:fraxure: Fraxure
:gourgeist: Gourgeist-Large
:hippopotas: Hippopotas
:swoobat: Swoobat

A
:beheeyem: Beheeyem
:dusclops: Dusclops
:grapploct: Grapploct
:mr_mime-galar: Galarian Mr. Mime
:vespiquen: Vespiquen

A-
:mr_mime: Mr. Mime
:pikachu: Pikachu
:raichu: Raichu
:shiinotic: Shiinotic
:silvally-ice: Silvally-Ice
:vullaby: Vullaby

B+
:carkol: Carkol
:glalie: Glalie
:grookey: Grookey
:ivysaur: Ivysaur
:klang: Klang
:linoone-galar: Galarian Linoone
:lunatone: Lunatone
:persian: Persian
:seaking: Seaking
:vibrava: Vibrava
:wartortle: Wartortle
:zweilous: Zweilous

B
:charjabug: Charjabug
:corsola: Corsola
:eiscue: Eiscue
:gothitelle: Gothitelle
:leafeon: Leafeon
:palpitoad: Palpitoad
:pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:solrock: Solrock
:stoutland: Stoutland
:togetic: Togetic

B-
:dedenne: Dedenne
:dunsparce: Dunsparce
:morgrem: Morgrem
:natu: Natu
:oranguru: Oranguru
:shedinja: Shedinja
:whirlipede: Whirlipede
:whiscash: Whiscash

C+
:bronzor: Bronzor
:emolga: Emolga
:farfetchd: Farfetch'd
:gloom: Gloom
:hakamo-o: Hakamo-o
:krokorok: Krokorok
:lampent: Lampent
:lickitung: Lickitung
:machoke: Machoke
:munchlax: Munchlax
:octillery: Octillery
:scraggy: Scraggy

C
:beartic: Beartic
:dartrix: Dartrix
:drakloak: Drakloak
:duosion: Duosion
:greedent: Greedent
:maractus: Maractus
:marill: Marill
:onix: Onix
:stunky: Stunky
:trevenant: Trevenant
:trubbish: Trubbish
:vulpix-alola: Vulpix-Alola

C-
:gastly: Gastly
:honedge: Honedge
:lopunny: Lopunny
:mudbray: Mudbray
:rufflet: Rufflet
:sandygast: Sandygast
:slowpoke: Slowpoke
:swirlix: Swirlix
 
Here's my take on a personal Vr.Feel free to tell me if anything is missing :)
S
:Swoobat: Swoobat

A+
:Musharna: Musharna
:Fraxure: Fraxure
:Pikachu: Pikachu
:Gourgeist-large: Gourgeist-large
:Stonjourner: Stonjourner
A
:Mr Mime-Galar: Mr Mime-Galar
:Linoone-galar: Linoone-Galar
:Stoutland: Stoutland
:Carkol: Carkol
:Vullaby: Vullaby
:Shiinotic: Shiinotic
A-
:Mr Mime: Mr Mime
:Beheeyem: Beheeyem
:Grapploct: Grapploct
:Klang: Klang
:Raichu: Raichu
:Dusclops: Dusclops
:Lunatone: Lunatone
B+
:Zweilous: Zweilous
:Dedenne: Dedenee
:Ivysaur: Ivysaur
:Wartortle: Wartortle
:Grookey: Grookey
:Vespiquen: Vespiquen
:Leafeon: Leafeon
B
:Charjabug: Charjabug
:Silvally-Ice: Silvally-ice
:Machoke: Machoke
:Trevenant: Trevenant
:Corsola: Corsola
:Hippopotas: Hippopotas
:Togetic: Togetic
:Persian: Persian
:Pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:Seaking: Seaking
B-
:Whirlipede: Whirlipede
:Vibrava: Vibrava
:Eiscue: Eiscue
:Krokorok: Krokorok
:Lampent: Lampent
:Farfetch Farfetch'd
:Solrock: Solrock
:Gloom: Gloom
:Emolga: Emolga
:Octillery: Octillery
:Whiscash: Whiscash
:Drakloak: Darkloak
:Greedent: Greedent
C+
:Gothitelle: Gothitelle
:Palpitoad: Palpitoad
:Trubbish: Trubbish
:Duosion: Duosion
:Stunky: Stunky
:Munchlax: Munchlax
:Lickitung: Lickitung
:Morgrem: Morgrem
:Torracat: Torracat
:Hakamo-o: Hakamo-o
:Shedinja: Shedinja
C
:Beartic: Beartic
:Dartrix: Dartrix
:Seadra: Seadra
:Vulpix-Alola: Vulpix-Alola
:Wailord: Wailord
:Scraggy: Scraggy
:Bronzor: Bronzor
C-
:Dunsparce: Dunsparce
:Fletchinder: Fletchinder
:Gastly: Gastly
:Lopunny: Lopunny
:Sandygast: Sandygast
:Marill: Marill
:Honedge: Honedge
:Natu: Natu
:Dottler: Dottler
 
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My opinion sucks but here we go:
(First Edit after testing more mons in deep)

S
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Stonjourner

A+
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Pikachu
swoobat.png
Swoobat
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Gourgeist-Large
klang.png
Klang

A
fraxure.png
Fraxure
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Mr. Mime-Galar
vespiquen.png
Vespiquen
grapploct.png
Grapploct

A-
silvally.png
Silvally-Ice
raichu.png
Raichu
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Mr. Mime
shiinotic.png
Shiinotic
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Vullaby
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Beheyeem
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Hippopotas
machoke.png
Machoke
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Trevenant

B+
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Linoone-Galar
dusclops.png
Dusclops
persian.png
Persian
lunatone.png
Lunatone
carkol.png
Carkol
wartortle.png
Wartortle
ivysaur.png
Ivysaur
whiscash.png
Whiscash
bellossom.png
Bellossom
palpitoad.png
Palpitoad
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Leafeon

B
corsola.png
Corsola
glalie.png
Glalie
gothitelle.png
Gothitelle
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Seaking
pyukumuku.png
Pyukumuku
grookey.png
Grookey
zweilous.png
Zwelious
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Dedenne
dunsparce.png
Dunsparce
emolga.png
Emolga

B-
charjabug.png
Charjabug
krokorok.png
Krokorok
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Togetic
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Stoutland
eiscue.png
Eiscue
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Gloom
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Beartic

C+

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Morgrem
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Shedinja
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Solrock
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Oranguru
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Farfetch'd
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Lopunny
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Octillery
cufant.png
Cufant
natu.png
Natu
vibrava.png
Vibrava

C
rufflet.png
Rufflet
sudowoodo.png
Sudowoodo
whirlipede.png
Whirlipede
gastly.png
Gastly
scraggy.png
Scraggy
vulpix-alola.png
Vulpix-Alola
maractus.png
Maractus
dartrix.png
Dartrix
sliggoo.png
Sliggoo
lampent.png
Lampent
seadra.png
Seadra
greedent.png
Greedent

C-
onix.png
Onix
delibird.png
Delibird
drakloak.png
Drakloak
fletchinder.png
Fletchinder
munchlax.png
Munchlax
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Bronzor
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Lickitung

D (Evertyhing else not worth mention it)
 
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Only did high tier cause I got bored. I am prob missing a few mons as its rushed.
{edit} - added mid tier then got bored again. will not be doing lower teir
S
:Stonjourner: Stonjourner
:swoobat: Swoobat

A+
:Pikachu: Pikachu
:Gourgeist-Large: Gourgeist-Large
:Hippopotas: Hippopotas
:klang: klang

A
:Beheeyem: Beheeyem
:dusclops: dusclops
:Fraxure: Fraxure
:Vespiquen: Vespiquen
:Grapploct: Grapploct
:mr_mime-galar: Mr. Mime-Galar

A-
:raichu: raichu
:bellossom: bellossom
:mr_mime: mr.mime
:Linoone_Galar: Linoone-G
:persian: Persian
:silvally-ice: silvally-ice
:Vullaby: Vullaby
:wartortle: Wartortle
:shiinotic: Shiinotic

B+
:Carkol: Carkol
:charjabug: Charjabulk
:Lunatone: Lunatone
:Solrock: Solrock
:palpitoad: palpitoad
:Whiscash: Whishcash
:leafeon: Leafeon
:Ivysaur: Ivysaur
:stoutland: Stoutland
:Trevenant: Trevenant
:gothitelle: Gothitelle

B
:corsola: corsola
:Eiscue: Eiscue
:beartic: Beartic:
:pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:glalie: Glalie
:krokorok:Krokorok
:grookey:Grookey
:machoke: Machoke
:oranguru: Oranguru
:shedinja: Shedinja
:dedenne: Dedenne
:dunsparce: dunsparce
:seaking: Seaking
:Togetic: Togetic
:lickitung: Lickitung
:Vibrava: Vibrava
:dartrix: Dartrix
:gloom: Gloom
:whirlipede: Whirlipede
:zweilous: zweilous

B-
:morgrem: Morgrem
:torracat: Torracat
:rufflet: rufflet
:Scraggy: Scraggy
:Hakamo-o: Hakamo-o (zupl teams sucks btw)
:Octillery: Octillery
:Onix: Onix
:gastly: Gastly
:emolga: Emolga
:Lopunny: Lopunny
:natu: Natu
:Trubbish: Trubbish
:maractus: Maractus
:sudowoodo: Sudowoodo
:duosion: Duosion:
 
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Only doing mons that I have tested so far so if it's not on here it's because I havent used it enough to decide. I will update as I use more mons.

S
:Stonjourner: Stonjourner
:swoobat: Swoobat

A+
:Gourgeist-Large: Gourgeist
:klang: Klang
:pikachu: Pikachu
:Vespiquen: Vespiquen

A
:Fraxure: Fracture
:Grapploct: Grapploct
:raichu: Raichu

A-
:Beheeyem: Beheeyem
:dusclops: Dusclops
:Hippopotas: Hippopotas
:mr_mime-galar: Mr Mime-Galar
:silvally-ice: Silvally Ice

B+
:bellossom: Bellossom
:Carkol: Carkol
:mr_mime: Mr Mime
:palpitoad: Palpitoad
:persian: Persian
:Trevenant: Trevenant
:Vullaby: Vullaby

B
:charjabug: Charjabug
:dedenne: Dedenne
:Eiscue: Eiscue
:gothitelle: Gothitelle
:Ivysaur: Ivysaur
:leafeon: Leafeon
:Linoone_Galar: Linoone-Galar
:machoke: Machoke
:seaking: Seaking
:shiinotic: Shiinotic
:zweilous: Zweilous

B-
:corsola: Corsola
:emolga: Emolga
:grookey: Grookey
:krokorok: Krokorok
:Lampent: Lampent
:morgrem: Morgrem
:stoutland: Stoutland
:wartortle: Wartortle

C+
:glalie: Glalie
:Togetic: Togetic
:Vibrava: Vibrava

C
:duosion: Duosion
:Octillery: Octillery
:whirlipede: Whirlipede

C-
:Drakloak: Drakloak

D
 

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S
:Stonjourner: Stonjourner

A+
:Gourgeist: Gourgeist-Large
:Klang: Klang
:Swoobat: Swoobat

A
:Beheeyem: Beheeyem
:Dusclops: Dusclops
:Hippopotas: Hippopotas
:Machoke: Machoke
:Mr. Mime-Galar: Mr. Mime-Galar
:Pikachu: Pikachu
:Raichu: Raichu
:Vullaby: Vullaby

A-
:Fraxure: Fraxure
:Grapploct: Grapploct
:Leafeon: Leafeon
:Mr. Mime: Mr Mime
:Palpitoad: Palpitoad
:Silvally: Silvally-Ice
:Trevenant: Trevenant
:Vespiquen: Vespiquen

B+
:Bellossom: Bellossom
:Carkol: Carkol
:Corsola: Corsola
:Grookey: Grookey
:Ivysaur: Ivysaur
:Lunatone: Lunatone
:Persian: Persian
:Whiscash: Whiscash
:Zweilous: Zweilous

B
:Charjabug: Charjabug
:Beartic: Beartic
:Emolga: Emolga
:Linoone-Galar: Linoone-Galar
:Pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:Seaking: Seaking
:Shiinotic: Shiinotic
:Stoutland: Stoutland
:Wartortle: Wartortle:

B-
:Bronzor: Bronzor
:Dedenne: Dedenne
:Glalie: Glalie
:Gothitelle: Gothitelle
:Morgrem: Morgrem
:Mudbray: Mudbray
:Togetic: Togetic
:Trubbish: Trubbish
:Vibrava: Vibrava
:Whirlipede: Whirlipede

C+
:Duosion: Duosion
:Gastly: Gastly
:Gloom: Gloom
:Natu: Natu
:Krokorok: Krokorok
:Octillery: Octillery
:Oranguru: Oranguru
:Shedinja: Shedinja
:Solrock: Solrock

C
:Eiscue: Eiscue
:Farfetch Farfetch'd
:Hakamo-o: Hakamo-o
:Lickitung: Lickitung
:Lopunny: Lopunny

C-
:Greedent: Greedent
:Munchlax: Munchlax
:Scraggy: Scraggy
:Sudowoodo: Sudowoodo
:Vulpix-Alola: Vulpix-Alola
 
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Greybaum

GENTLEMAN, THIS IS DEMOCRACY MANIFEST
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please note that i did not look at the actual viability rankings when making this. my thoughts are raw.
all my opinions are subject to change, yet are unlikely to change.

S:
:ivysaur: Ivysaur
:stonjourner: Stonjourner

A+
:grapploct: Grapploct
:klang: Klang
:trevenant: Trevenant
:pikachu: Pikachu
:vespiquen: Vespiquen

A
:grookey: Grookey
:hattrem: Hattrem
:hippopotas: Hippopotas
:mr. mime-galar: Mr. Mime-Galar
:silvally: Silvally-Ice
:whiscash: Whiscash

A-
:beheeyem: Beheeyem
:dedenne: Dedenne
:dusclops: Dusclops
:fraxure: Fraxure
:gourgeist: Gourgeist-Large
:gothitelle: Gothitelle
:lunatone: Lunatone
:machoke: Machoke
:stoutland: Stoutland
:vullaby: Vullaby

B+
:charjabug: Charjabug
:emolga: Emolga
:glalie: Glalie
:lickitung: Lickitung
:morgrem: Morgrem
:mr. mime: Mr. Mime
:persian: Persian
:pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:raichu: Raichu
:zweilous: Zweilous

B
:bronzor: Bronzor
:corsola: Corsola
:dugtrio: Dugtrio
:dunsparce: Dunsparce
:duosion: Duosion
:eiscue: Eiscue
:honedge: Honedge
:koffing: Koffing
:krokorok: Krokorok
:linoone-galar: Linoone-Galar
:maractus: Maractus
:oranguru: Oranguru
:seaking: Seaking
:shiinotic: Shiinotic
:solrock: Solrock
:wartortle: Wartortle

B-
:abra: Abra
:beartic: Beartic
:bellossom: Bellossom
:drilbur: Drilbur
:farfetchd: Farfetch'd
:gastly: Gastly
:hakamo-o: Hakamo-o
:lampent: Lampent
:palpitoad: Palpitoad
:pupitar: Pupitar
:slowpoke: Slowpoke
:spritzee: Spritzee
:sudowoodo: Sudowoodo
:torracat: Torracat
:vibrava: Vibrava

C+
:brionne: Brionne
:dwebble: Dwebble
:farfetchd-galar: Farfetch'd-Galar
:octillery: Octillery
:rufflet: Rufflet
:shedinja: Shedinja
:stufful: Stufful
:togetic: Togetic
:whirlipede: Whirlipede
:vulpix-alola: Vulpix-Alola

C
:carkol: Carkol
:charmeleon: Charmeleon
:lopunny: Lopunny
:cottonee: Cottonee
:cufant: Cufant
:delibird: Delibird
:dartrix: Dartrix
:gloom: Gloom
:mudbray: Mudbray
:munchlax: Munchlax
:porygon: Porygon
:tentacool: Tentacool
:trubbish: Trubbish

C-
:greedent: Greedent
:dottler: Dottler
:drakloak: Drakloak
:natu: Natu
:sliggoo: Sliggoo
:wailord: Wailord

unranked:
:hatenna: Hatenna
:marill: Marill
:scraggy: Scraggy
:seadra: Seadra
:stunky: Stunky
:swirlix: Swirlix
 
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please note that i did not look at the actual viability rankings when making this. my thoughts are raw.
all my opinions are subject to change, yet are unlikely to change.

S:
:ivysaur: Ivysaur
:stonjourner: Stonjourner

A+
:grapploct: Grapploct
:klang: Klang
:trevenant: Trevenant
:pikachu: Pikachu
:vespiquen: Vespiquen

A
:grookey: Grookey
:hattrem: Hattrem
:hippopotas: Hippopotas
:mr. mime-galar: Mr. Mime-Galar
:silvally: Silvally-Ice
:whiscash: Whiscash

A-
:beheeyem: Beheeyem
:dedenne: Dedenne
:dusclops: Dusclops
:fraxure: Fraxure
:gourgeist: Gourgeist-Large
:gothitelle: Gothitelle
:lunatone: Lunatone
:machoke: Machoke
:stoutland: Stoutland
:vullaby: Vullaby

B+
:charjabug: Charjabug
:emolga: Emolga
:glalie: Glalie
:lickitung: Lickitung
:morgrem: Morgrem
:mr. mime: Mr. Mime
:persian: Persian
:pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:raichu: Raichu
:zweilous: Zweilous

B
:bronzor: Bronzor
:corsola: Corsola
:dugtrio: Dugtrio
:dunsparce: Dunsparce
:duosion: Duosion
:eiscue: Eiscue
:honedge: Honedge
:koffing: Koffing
:krokorok: Krokorok
:linoone-galar: Linoone-Galar
:maractus: Maractus
:oranguru: Oranguru
:seaking: Seaking
:shiinotic: Shiinotic
:solrock: Solrock
:wartortle: Wartortle

B-
:abra: Abra
:beartic: Beartic
:charmeleon: Charmeleon
:drilbur: Drilbur
:farfetch Farfetch'd
:gastly: Gastly
:hakamo-o: Hakamo-o
:lampent: Lampent
:palpitoad: Palpitoad
:pupitar: Pupitar
:slowpoke: Slowpoke
:spritzee: Spritzee
:sudowoodo: Sudowoodo
:torracat: Torracat
:vibrava: Vibrava

C+
:bellossom: Bellossom
:brionne: Brionne
:dwebble: Dwebble
:farfetch Farfetch'd-Galar
:octillery: Octillery
:rufflet: Rufflet
:shedinja: Shedinja
:stufful: Stufful
:togetic: Togetic
:wailord: Wailord
:whirlipede: Whirlipede
:vulpix-alola: Vulpix-Alola

C
:carkol: Carkol
:cherrim: Cherrim
:cottonee: Cottonee
:cufant: Cufant
:delibird: Delibird
:dartrix: Dartrix
:gloom: Gloom
:mudbray: Mudbray
:munchlax: Munchlax
:porygon: Porygon
:tentacool: Tentacool
:trubbish: Trubbish

C-
:greedent: Greedent
:dottler: Dottler
:drakloak: Drakloak
:natu: Natu
:sliggoo: Sliggoo

unranked:
:hatenna: Hatenna
:lopunny: Lopunny
:marill: Marill
:scraggy: Scraggy
:seadra: Seadra
:stunky: Stunky
:swirlix: Swirlix
This is the best day of my life I see ivy in S rank

IVY GANG
 
please note that i did not look at the actual viability rankings when making this. my thoughts are raw.
all my opinions are subject to change, yet are unlikely to change.

S:
:ivysaur: Ivysaur
:stonjourner: Stonjourner

A+
:grapploct: Grapploct
:klang: Klang
:trevenant: Trevenant
:pikachu: Pikachu
:vespiquen: Vespiquen

A
:grookey: Grookey
:hattrem: Hattrem
:hippopotas: Hippopotas
:mr. mime-galar: Mr. Mime-Galar
:silvally: Silvally-Ice
:whiscash: Whiscash

A-
:beheeyem: Beheeyem
:dedenne: Dedenne
:dusclops: Dusclops
:fraxure: Fraxure
:gourgeist: Gourgeist-Large
:gothitelle: Gothitelle
:lunatone: Lunatone
:machoke: Machoke
:stoutland: Stoutland
:vullaby: Vullaby

B+
:charjabug: Charjabug
:emolga: Emolga
:glalie: Glalie
:lickitung: Lickitung
:morgrem: Morgrem
:mr. mime: Mr. Mime
:persian: Persian
:pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:raichu: Raichu
:zweilous: Zweilous

B
:bronzor: Bronzor
:corsola: Corsola
:dugtrio: Dugtrio
:dunsparce: Dunsparce
:duosion: Duosion
:eiscue: Eiscue
:honedge: Honedge
:koffing: Koffing
:krokorok: Krokorok
:linoone-galar: Linoone-Galar
:maractus: Maractus
:oranguru: Oranguru
:seaking: Seaking
:shiinotic: Shiinotic
:solrock: Solrock
:wartortle: Wartortle

B-
:abra: Abra
:beartic: Beartic
:bellossom: Bellossom
:drilbur: Drilbur
:farfetchd: Farfetch'd
:gastly: Gastly
:hakamo-o: Hakamo-o
:lampent: Lampent
:palpitoad: Palpitoad
:pupitar: Pupitar
:slowpoke: Slowpoke
:spritzee: Spritzee
:sudowoodo: Sudowoodo
:torracat: Torracat
:vibrava: Vibrava

C+
:brionne: Brionne
:dwebble: Dwebble
:farfetchd-galar: Farfetch'd-Galar
:octillery: Octillery
:rufflet: Rufflet
:shedinja: Shedinja
:stufful: Stufful
:togetic: Togetic
:wailord: Wailord
:whirlipede: Whirlipede
:vulpix-alola: Vulpix-Alola

C
:carkol: Carkol
:charmeleon: Charmeleon
:cherrim: Cherrim
:cottonee: Cottonee
:cufant: Cufant
:delibird: Delibird
:dartrix: Dartrix
:gloom: Gloom
:mudbray: Mudbray
:munchlax: Munchlax
:porygon: Porygon
:tentacool: Tentacool
:trubbish: Trubbish

C-
:greedent: Greedent
:dottler: Dottler
:drakloak: Drakloak
:natu: Natu
:sliggoo: Sliggoo

unranked:
:hatenna: Hatenna
:lopunny: Lopunny
:marill: Marill
:scraggy: Scraggy
:seadra: Seadra
:stunky: Stunky
:swirlix: Swirlix
Seeing my australian Charmeleon ranked truly brings a tear to my eye
 

Tuthur

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S
:klang: Klang
:stonjourner: Stonjourner

A+
:grapploct: Grapploct
:mr_mime-galar: Galarian Mr. Mime
:vespiquen: Vespiquen

A
:grookey: Grookey
:hattrem: Hattrem
:ivysaur: Ivysaur
:mr_mime: Mr. Mime
:pikachu: Pikachu
:raichu: Raichu
:silvally-ice: Silvally-Ice
:trevenant: Trevenant

A-
:beheeyem: Beheeyem
:dusclops: Dusclops
:gothitelle: Gothitelle
:gourgeist: Gourgeist Large
:hippopotas: Hippopotas
:machoke: Machoke
:vullaby: Vullaby
:whiscash: Whiscash

B+
:emolga: Emolga
:glalie: Glalie
:krokorok: Krokorok
:lunatone: Lunatone
:persian: Persian
:pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:shiinotic: Shiinotic
:stoutland: Stoutland
:zweilous: Zweilous
:wartortle: Wartortle

B
:bronzor: Bronzor
:charjabug: Charjabug
:dedenne: Dedenne
:dugtrio: Dugtrio
:fraxure: Fraxure
:lampent: Lampent
:lickitung: Lickitung
:linoone-galar: Galarian Linoone
:morgrem: Morgrem
:palpitoad: Palpitoad
:seaking: Seaking
:vibrava: Vibrava

B-
:beartic: Beartic
:bellossom: Bellossom
:corsola: Corsola
:eiscue: Eiscue
:hakamo-o: Hakamo-o
:slowpoke: Slowpoke
:solrock: Solrock
:spritzee: Spritzee
:sudowoodo: Sudowoodo
:vulpix-alola: Alolan Vulpix

C+
:carkol: Carkol
:duosion: Duosion
:dunsparce: Dunsparce
:oranguru: Oranguru
:scraggy: Scraggy
:togetic: Togetic
:whirlipede: Whirlipede

C
:farfetchd: Farfetch'd
:koffing: Koffing
:maractus: Maractus
:mudbray: Mudbray
:octillery: Octillery
:shedinja: Shedinja
:torracat: Torracat

C-
:dartrix: Dartrix
:drakloak: Drakloak
:gastly: Gastly
:gloom: Gloom
:greedent: Greedent
:natu: Natu
:seadra: Seadra
:sliggoo: Sliggoo
:trubbish: Trubbish
 
Okay so new ranks. I put the current VR rank in ( )

Here is a video of me explaining my changes if you are interested in that type of thing!

S
:klang: Klang (A+)
:stonjourner: Stonjourner (S)

A+
:gourgeist: Gourgeist-L (A+)
:grapploct: Grapploct (A)
:pikachu: Pikachu (A)
:vespiquen: Vespiquen (A)

A
:hattrem: Hattrem (New)
:hippopotas: Hippopotas (A)
:mr_mime_galar: Mr. Mime-G (A)
:raichu: Raichu (A)
:silvally: Silvally-Ice (A-)
:trevenant: Trevenant (A)
:whiscash: Whiscash (B+)

A-
:dusclops: Dusclops (A-)
:fraxure: Fraxure (A-)
:gothitelle: Gothitelle (A-)
:grookey: Grookey (A)
:ivysaur: Ivysaur (B+)
:machoke: Machoke (B+)
:mr_mime: Mr. Mime (A-)
:vullaby: Vullaby (A)

B+
:beheeyem: Beheeyem (A-)
:bellossom: Bellossom: (B+)
:emolga: Emolga (B)
:lampent: Lampent (B-)
:linoone_galar: Linoone-G (B+)
:persian: Persian (B+)
:shiinotic: Shiinotic (B+)
:glalie: Glalie (B+)
:lunatone: Lunatone (B+)
:stoutland: Stoutland (B)

B
:beartic: Beartic (B-)
:bronzor: Bronzor (B-)
:carkol: Carkol (B+)
:charjabug: Charjabug (B)
:dugtrio: Dugtrio (New)
:morgrem: Morgrem (B)
:pyukumuku: Pyukumuku (B)
:sandygast: Sandygast (UR)
:seaking: Seaking (B)
:solrock: Solrock (B-)
:wartortle: Wartortle (B+)
:zweilous: Zweilous (A-)

B-
:corsola: Corsola (B)
:dunsparce: Dunsparce (B-)
:eiscue: Eiscue (C+)
:krokorok: Krokorok (B-)
:mudbray: Mudbray (C+)
:oranguru: Oranguru (B)
:palpitoad: Palpitoad (A-)
:vibrava: Vibrava (B-)
:vulpix_alola: Vulpix-A (B-)

C+
:dedenne: Dedenne (C+)
:duosion: Duosion (C)
:gastly: Gastly (C)
:gloom: Gloom (C+)
:hakamo-o: Hakamo-o (C+)
:Larvesta: Larvesta (UR)
:octillery: Octillery (C+)
:togetic: Togetic (C+)
:scraggy: Scraggy (C-)
:whirlipede: Whirlipede (C+)

C
:cufant: Cufant (C)
:dartrix: Dartrix (C)
:drakloak: Drakloak (C)
:farfetch Farfetch'd (C)
:maractus: Maractus (C)
:munchlax: Munchlax (C)
:seadra: Seadra (C)
:shedinja: Shedinja (C)
:sliggoo: Sliggoo (C)
:swirlix: Swirlix (C)
:torracat: Torracat (C)
:trubbish: Trubbish (C)

C-
:greedent: Greedent (C-)
:delibird: Delibird (UR)
:lickitung: Lickitung (C-)
:lopunny: Lopunny (C-)
:marill: Marill (C-)
:stunky: Stunky (C-)
:sudowoodo: Sudowoodo (C-)

UR
:natu: Natu (C+)
:hatenna: Hatenna (C)
 
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S
:grapploct: Grapploct
:gourgeist: Gourgeist-L
:klang: Klang
:stonjourner: Stonjourner


A+
:mr_mime_galar: Mr. Mime-G
:pikachu: Pikachu
:vespiquen: Vespiquen

A
:hattrem: Hattrem
:hippopotas: Hippopotas
:ivysaur: Ivysaur
:mr_mime: Mr. Mime
:raichu: Raichu
:silvally: Silvally-Ice
:trevenant: Trevenant


A-
:beheeyem: Beheeyem
:dusclops: Dusclops
:gothitelle: Gothitelle
:machoke: Machoke
:vullaby: Vullaby
:whiscash: Whiscash

B+
:bellossom: Bellossom:
:eiscue: Eiscue
:fraxure: Fraxure
:lampent: Lampent
:persian: Persian
:shiinotic: Shiinotic
:lunatone: Lunatone
:stoutland: Stoutland
:wartortle: Wartortle

B
:beartic: Beartic
:charjabug: Charjabug
:dugtrio: Dugtrio
:emolga: Emolga
:grookey: Grookey
:glalie: Glalie
:krokorok: Krokorok
:linoone_galar: Linoone-G
:morgrem: Morgrem
:palpitoad: Palpitoad
:pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:seaking: Seaking
:solrock: Solrock
:zweilous: Zweilous

B-
:bronzor: Bronzor
:carkol: Carkol
:corsola: Corsola
:dunsparce: Dunsparce
:krokorok: Krokorok
:mudbray: Mudbray
:oranguru: Oranguru
:scraggy: Scraggy
:vibrava: Vibrava
:vulpix_alola: Vulpix-A

C+
:dedenne: Dedenne
:gastly: Gastly
:gloom: Gloom
:hakamo-o: Hakamo-o
:octillery: Octillery
:scraggy: Scraggy
:togetic: Togetic
:torracat: Torracat
:whirlipede: Whirlipede

C
:cufant: Cufant
:dartrix: Dartrix
:drakloak: Drakloak
:Drilbur: Drilbur
:duosion: Duosion
:farfetch Farfetch'd
:lickitung: Lickitung
:lopunny: Lopunny
:maractus: Maractus
:munchlax: Munchlax
:seadra: Seadra
:shedinja: Shedinja
:sliggoo: Sliggoo
:swirlix: Swirlix
:torracat: Torracat
:trubbish: Trubbish

C-
:greedent: Greedent
:sliggoo: Sliggoo
:stunky: Stunky
:sudowoodo: Sudowoodo

I know I put alot in S but I feel like they all belong there, they are all massive threats that can just 6-0 unprepared teams or even prepared teams. All of them limit teambuilding immensely and are very centralising. I wouldn't care if they all got banned right now. The tier would be much more fun without them. Look at the list again without the S rank threats. Perfection.
 
"ZUPL II Is Over Party" / Post-KlanGrapp Vote / End of September Personal VR
As a fun little exercise, I decided to make the ranking system a bell curve rather than the traditional top inflated cascade so that it would be more reflective of what I like to use or what I see as valuable to teams. This constraint ended up being really interesting for defining the best mons in the meta versus the unique ones.
I use the term "role crunch" here to express a negative aspect of role compression that I think leads a lot of less useful Pokemon being used or ranked simply because they can (sometimes theoretically) fill certain holes or roles on teams.

S
:Klang:
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No justification needed. Klang is in S because it's broken and has warped the metagame around itself, overprep, and really obnoxious picks. It's distinct from the rest of the meta for its level of brokenness, pushing the curve up higher.
(Song rec from kay ty kay)
A+
:Stonjourner:
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Ston is simply the best physical breaker, offensive rocker, and physical scarfer in the tier that has defined the metagame relying on bulky ground types to check it.
:Vespiquen:
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Vespiquen has completely defined the hazard metagame with both Toxic Spikes and Defog while it fits on pretty much any archetype with its bulk, decent power, and utility.
A
:Hattrem:
Hattrem, though its typing and bulk can be wanting, Hattrem has made certain threats of the metagame even more dangerous while defining the viabilities of a number of hazard setters and passive Pokemon.
:Mr. Mime:
Screen Shot 2020-09-13 at 10.06.38 AM.png

I legitimately believe Mime origin forme is the better of the two clowns. It's such a potent breaker and scarfer and carries a variety of utility options that gives Hattrem competition on offense.
:Pyukumuku:
We have learned again and again what Pyuk does. It's a mandatory stallmon that shuts down most setup and defines what gets to be a breaker/sweeper/setup mon or not.
A-
:Gourgeist:
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Gourgeist has lost a lot of its initial usefulness IMO but the set diversity and options it has make up for that. It's such a splashable gluemon and pick even in a time of T-Spikes and post-Grapploct.
:Ivysaur:
I'm not Ivy S Rank Gang or whatever but I do think Ivysaur is incredible at making progress as a defensive mon and it really enjoys being the most viable grounded Poison right now. I think it's too threatened by Klang and the Psychics to be at the top, but it's very potent as glue.
:Mr. Mime-Galar:
1601521831494.png

I actually think Gime is in a place where it's less useful than Mime classic taste right now. It's still the best offensive spinner in the tier and an extremely threatening special setup sweeper, but the meta has adapted to its presence, and it no longer just has the easiest matchups in the world. Its downward trend in usage has also reflected that. I think it lacks some of the other unique traits of Mime by almost always being the Spinner variant.
:Pikachu:
Screen Shot 2020-09-12 at 11.33.00 PM.png

I hate this rat but it is the best offensive progress maker and revenge killer. It's not nearly as potent as it was maybe a few weeks ago, but PikaStonKlang is hugely threatening to the metagame and Pikachu contributes a lot to needing to run a defensive Grass and defensive Ground on every team.
B+
:Dusclops:
Screen Shot 2020-09-13 at 1.24.41 AM.png

Dusclops is always in a weird meta position of being somewhat wanted, somewhat needed, but never both. It's the best defensive spinblocker in the entire meta and thick to boot (even after a Knock), but it's still so passive and has to deal with the growing potency of many mons right now.
:Duosion:
Simply put, I think Duosion is extremely neglected as a wincon, as if the opposing team is lacking a Dark type or a direct way to stop its sweep, it will almost assuredly win, even if you're left with it 5-1. Toxic Spikes being the meta only benefit it more, and that defensive cores have been dropping Dark types and offensive Gourg+Trev have fallen out, it's even better than ever. It even beats Klang if you have enough luck to not get crit. Do not sleep on this thing.
:Machoke:
Machoke is arguably one of the best gluemons aside from Vespiquen and Ivysaur, and Grapploct's departure gives it less competition as a Fighting type and less obligation to run Restalk. That said, Restalk is still arguably its best set, and being Toxic Spike agnostic while giving few free switches is a great feature.
:Raichu:
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Raichu is the tier's best offensive Volt Switch user and it's second best special breaker. Being second best isn't altogether too bad though, and though it had less of an impact than initially predicted, Raichu is a persistently top threat in the meta. Raichu just wishes teams would stop running defensive Grasses and Grounds all the time.
:Silvally:
Screen Shot 2020-09-13 at 10.50.26 AM.png

Icevally is a second best physical breaker, second best special pivot, and second best physical sweeper that is weak to Rocks without chance of recourse against T-Spikes either. Normally that would make it bad, but the meta aligns in such a way that Icevally can simply 6-0 some teams. The overreliance on defensive Grounds/Grasses as KlangStonPika checks means Icevally gets to devour most defensive cores. Do not build your teams without keeping it in mind.
B
:Beheeyem:
1601521927155.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogwbb21beoE
Beh is a hyperpotent special breaker that comes with recovery and a fantastic ability but no bulk or typing to really abuse it. And it will get worse if people start running actual Dark types again.
:Gothitelle:
1601521938745.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfEwIozKwO0
I actually prefer using Duosion to Goth in general because of the Toxic Spikes immunity and the usefulness of not needing to Rest or anything. I will say that Goth's set flexibility in the bulky booster set, Knock agnosticism, and potential for sets beyond bulky boosting are notable. It's just not my favorite, but it's very threatening and demands defensive prep.
:Hippopotas:
1601521953416.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU
A role compressor and defensive mon that doesn't suffer role crunch or become useless once it's Knocked. Hippo is one of the best defensive responses to PikaSton, and it can at least phaze out Klang if it has Whirlwind and Klang isn't the last one standing. Hippo struggles a bit with Hatt, but it's still not entirely passive, which works in its favor.
:Lunatone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2deXwf4drE
Luna is cool for being a special rocker in a tier that's mostly just physical rockers or defensive passive ones. Its potential to pull out some threatening setup on a whim can really put pressure on teams in a way that most other rockers lack. Threatening Vespi and Hatt both can be a boon for teams, but Luna's typing, speed, and physical bulk can compromise teams in certain matches.
:Whiscash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVpl-RNzdE4
The best antimeta mon with okay set dualism, but I find that Whiscash has been grossly overrated in a bid to make Klang less broken. The SubToxic set is fine I guess, but not as great as the Choice Specs set, which itself lacks power.
:Zweilous:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gc0169Ht48
I cannot emphasize enough just how underrated Zweilous is. Even taking into account its Fairy/Ice weakness and Hustle misses, Zweilous is so useful as a tank that takes care of the extremely common Grass/Ground/Ghost defensive cores and dangerous slower Psychics in just one slot.
B-
:Bellossom:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6xK_xhGp6s
Bellossom would be one of the most terrifying special sweepers in the tier if it weren't for the fact that it always has a bad meta, always has a bad matchup, always has the wrong moveset. It still lurks in the back of my mind though...
:Emolga:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNcpspzB49Y
Emolga is great as a progress making pivot that borrows from a lot of better mons, but it doesn't always borrow them in a way that makes it altogether stable considering it wants 8 moves on one set. This does create an unpredictable factor to be weaponized, and I won't say I haven't been smacked by it a bit.
:Fraxure:
Fraxure
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Naked
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s26e_86-K0k
Fraxure continues to kind of tread water as an offensive threat that was predicted to be much more dangerous than it turned out to be. That said, SD still murders stall, and its other sets remain nightmarish in power. It just has problems getting set up and CB is too easily exploited for it to be meta defining.
:Lampent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppHQa2h2qiI
Lamp is the second best antimeta mon (Gime, Klang, Vespi, Ivy, Icevally) that is held almost entirely back by its awful bulk and even worse hazard susceptibility. There's plenty of removal/deterrent options to support it, but Lampent is highly reliant on team support to function. So fun to use though.
:Linoone-Galar:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8G2ql1ljSo
Goone has seen better days, but it's still the best of all the normal type pivots and it remains very potent even as the meta has crept up in power and speed. Too many people just assume it's an artifact of the Alpha, when Goone's Taunt and Dark typing shut down so many of the wincons in the tier while still providing offensive progress with Parting Shot and Knock.
:Vullaby:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riKu4O0n_oM
A crazy ex-best Defogger, Grassy Terrain check, and overall Psychic beater. It's been pushed down and around by the increasing power, shifting meta, and even utility creep of the tier. As offensive Psychics return to the forefront though, it should not be neglected that Vullaby offers a very convenient typing, recovery, and post-Knock bulk too.
:Wartortle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmaZv4RuzY8
Our ex-best spinner has seen better days, and even with all of its new toys, it has not stood up to the test of time or the Toxic Spikes meta. Wartortle can still be an okay defensive spinner if you run Ivy with it or have some other hazard removal option for T-Spikes, but that can really force teams to build a certain way. Shell Smash also does not have the same potency as it once did, as other special sweepers have risen up to dominate it.
C+
:Eiscue:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdb_nZs6plw
Like Beh, Eiscue is a hyperpotent offensive threat, but as physical sweeper. Also like Beh, it's not exactly enjoying this Toxic Spikes meta. And that's disregarding that Eiscue often wants the stars to align for it to sweep.
:Krokorok:
:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75r0nQu-hMs
One of the most convenient typings with the most inconvenient bulk. It can set against Hatt and force offensive progress, but it's also a Dark/Ground type that struggles to stay alive until late in the game, which is a liability when it either stacks weaknesses or forces the team to find other Psychic and PikaStonKlang checks.
:Mudbray:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSZXWdKSQNM
Good defensive StonKlangPika check lacking recovery and doesn't necessarily lose to Hatt. I think it's been spammed a bit too much for its own good, and I don't always like using it all that much. More of a "just not for me" type pick rather than one that's actually all that bad.
:Octillery:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bKnIV5BC7A&t=11s
Nightmarish non-Psychic special breaker that requires no setup, just add water (haha). However, Oct usually really wants its team to run webs, and while this isn't necessarily the hardest thing to do considering Charjabug beats Hatt, it can still make the team archetype bend in more rigid dimensions. It's also sort of a Klang check, but I have trouble really just fitting it on most teams.
:Oranguru:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_6mnNLtsJY
Monkey see, monkey struggle to keep up with meta. Orang being jack of all trades Psychic with a semi-convenient typing and glue potential is good for it, but the lack of recovery beyond Leftovers can be really damning. There are moments for it to 6-0 though, and many teams make themselves unintentionally weak to NP variants.
:Solrock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DsU6Ws5Qd4
Solrock is an interesting defensive rocker that capitalizes on its unique typing with recovery to punish stuff like Vespiquen and Ston at the same time... but it gets chunked way too easily. It's a defensive mon that needs to be met halfway, and usually only does its job halfway too.
:Sudowoodo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpAzBIgsF74
As an unexpected HO rocker, Sudo can really break through teams that are prepped for Ston but not it. There's been a number of times where I've beaten someone down with it, been beaten down by it, or had to play very carefully against it. However, that surprise factor on Ston is mostly because it tends to really compete with Ston and only fit on one archetype.
:Trevenant:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljqe4Nj7nBA
As an abuser of Grassy Terrain or Webs, CB Trev is a menace, even to teams that prepped themselves more for Gourg's level of power. On the other side, Trev sometimes struggles to define itself out of "Gourg but with a bit more power and less defense" in a meta that really likes defensive Grass types. You either beat em, or you join them on a Terrain team.
C
:Beartic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0xX02BMwic
The most fearsome weather sweeper in the tier, held back by codependency on Vulpix-A to function. Only SD is really viable too, and it doesn't succeed on webs or make rain succeed.
:Carkol:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgb9ye35o5I
It's super cool as a unique rocker, spikes setter, and spinner, but not so cool in that it hemorrhages health and loses to Hatt. Not only is this just not the meta for it with T-Spikes and Magic Bounce everywhere, but it's weak as well. I don't see it sticking around.
:Charjabug:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk26JqfVbIE
It's cool to have a setter, even for webs, that beats Hatt, and doesn't entirely run out of utiity once it's done its job setting. That said, Ston makes its life kind of miserable.
:Dedenne:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaZNYHkCbYI
It's a really great alternative to Raichu that can actually do something to Gourg, but it's weaker, slower, vulnerable to Ivysaur, and now no longer wields the rare title of Grapp check. Underutilized for what it's worth though.
:Dugtrio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW7WH2j4Y3o
A better breaker/RKer in theory than in practice thanks to its fragility and priority weakness. My recommendation? Try out Hone Claws. They'll never see it coming.
:Grookey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lndBgOrTWxo
A fearsome archetype setter that holds utility but is codependent while suffering its best partners being banned. They took everything and left nothing for monky.
:Hakamo-o:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DD_NCM_RJs
Hakamo-o is so cool for its typing, similar to Zweilous. In that same way, it is horribly put down by common special threats, but now including most Psychics. It's an underrated Ston check and phazer that deserves to be at least used a bit more than it is.
:Shiinotic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omVFjGHx0FQ
A fine defensive Grass that has consistent sleep but gives too many switches.
:Vulpix-Alola:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7VZxg9pxkg
The best weather archetype setter, but completely codependent on Beartic to the point of being nearly deadweight, and also worsening a matchup against Gime.
C-
:Morgrem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeGV3MUlSpU
Frustrated screens archetype setter with Gime around, or a just third-rate NP breaker. Pick your poison.
:Natu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ZfwSQDLK0
Frustratingly frail alternative MBouncer saved by recovery and not being vulnerable to T-Spikes. ALSO STOP TRYING TO UNRANK BORB ;-;
:Palpitoad:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI785pDsR88
The face of "hard times" since Hattrem's arrival, but remains justified as a StonKlangPika check in one slot
:Persian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7J-SwMJ_jg
Now one of the lesser offensive normal pivots, though it offers great role compression still
:Seaking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5rAjOjTGtc
Generally mediocre, as pivot / as rain sweeper / as breaker, but pareto for what it is
:Stoutland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woPff-Tpkns
A breaker or a weather sweeper that isn't exceptional at either job. "It's neutered" is the take I said from the start, and it's the one that I'm sticking with.
:Torracat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WaV2x8GXj0
Second best offensive Fire to Lampent that doesn't fall apart in one hit, unless you took hazard chip (you did).
:Vibrava:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWAaYe1fPjA
An average Ston check and defensive Defogger that isn't rocks-weak after a Knock, but is everything else weak after a Knock as a trade off.
D+
:Corsola:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivOYj54_kTQ
I could think of worse rockers to use, but I could think of better ones too. Even ones with recovery. Mareanie might be eating Corsola in the games, but it's Hattrem that eats it here in ZU.
:Dunsparce:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRFgviKp5hA
A unique rocker for its paralysis spreading, Leftovers, and recovery at the cost of bad stats and a rather useless typing.
:Gastly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpo9KZYJ4sA
Neat special scarfer, though its frailty does it no favors, especially with lots of priority present. Like a ghost, it's largely only seen in very sparse appearances, which doesn't help its case.
:Glalie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPioMlSftdk
A "whatever" Spiker with even more whatever alternative sets.
:Greedent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvrwkNzBz2Q
Where Eiscue wants the stars to align for a Belly Drum sweep, Greedent needs them to.
:Munchlax:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pTbG_ctUlU
An underestimated special wall that I see once in a blue moon for its physical frailty and lack of splashabiity.
:Scraggy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izyZLKIWGiA
Understated bulky setup sweeper that preys on matchups and misplays, but not much else
D
:Bronzor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdtsr83524
High passivity, Knock weakness, and failure to wall certain top threats drive down its utility
:Dartrix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPsXMgnGUvU
More useful in theory than in application given that few people wish to use it, and it's not even that useful.
:Gloom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqDs14YqsAw
Really REALLY struggles to define itself in a tier of other grasses struggling to do the same
:Honedge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_UXXSQbmp8
Sick SD user with an even better typing, but low SpDef and lacking in both usage consistency create doubt in its efficacy.
:Shedinja:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kUVEnrmBYw
Often a mon you really have to justify using while playing 5-6 in matches. Most top threats almost always have some way of hitting it, and so do most mid-level ones.
:Togetic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWo2fAs8Bjc
An alright cleric Defogger for its Fairy type and a much less remarkable offensive NP attacker.
D-
:Drakloak:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwgy-snK_YY
Speed control that's been thoroughly crept in most regards
:Koffing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwc7XH75spI
A Toxic Spiker that does it in Hattrem's face instead of chunking it with U-Turn and doing it later like Vespi does. I'm not the biggest fan of it, but I will respect it for the modicum of work I've seen it do.
:Lickitung:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwB-iVAfnMo
Super annoying on some stall builds, but difficult to fit everywhere else with a Toxic Spike allergy
:Maractus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3lWwBslWqg
A Spiker that beats Hattrem and falls over to a lot of other things in the process
:Sandygast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD38JT8rypY
Though not ranked on the VR, it has some interesting qualities and antimeta potential. In the wiser words of Cash though, "it's bad".
F+
:Farfetchd:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ4Y921wxIk
Hardly relevant given that its options are done by "newer" threats in the meta.
:Lopunny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9mY227DoJY
Free unranked Lop, still an intriguing offensive normal pivot with fine bulk, pivoting, coverage
:Seadra:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyotS9o_Uxk
Unique specially offensive pivot, but a bit underpowered and underused.
:Sliggoo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2rVnRwW0h8
One of the least useful NFE dragons that offers mediocre tanking and worse sweeping
F
:Drilbur:
Getting up rocks in front of Hatt isn't always that difficult, and it still loses to spinblockers
:Magnemite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZXpGR_pBKM
Largely only relevant because Klang is, but has enough power to justify the 5v6 matchups
:Slowpoke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J68XhyH97BA
The most "sure, I guess" out of the newer UR to ranked mons, I have yet to see it work well
F-
:Stunky:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkH1f5xnajM
Its attempt at role compression just becomes role crunch.
:Whirlipede:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIbIqcSrwrQ
A Spikes + Toxic Spikes setter that loses to Hattrem, Defog Vespi, and Ivysaur
 

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I decided to try my hand at this, since I've been laddering and battling a lot since the recent shift and think I have a pretty decent view of the meta right now. I personally believe that Type: Null, Rapidash-Galar, Lilligant, Drednaw, Dubwool, and perhaps Musharna are all deserving of an upcoming council slate (not necessarily ban, but slate). However, Dubwool in S- seemed weird since it's hard-countered by Ghost-Type Pokémon, which while oppressive for some playstyles at the building stage, is much less oppressive for others. Beyond that, I think this viability ranking has a valid progression between top-tier threats and counters to those threats.

S+
:Type Null: Type: Null
:Rapidash-Galar: Rapidash-Galar

S-
:Drednaw: Drednaw
:Lilligant: Lilligant

A+
:Bouffalant: Bouffalant
:Crustle: Crustle
:Dubwool: Dubwool
:Musharna: Musharna

A
:Mr. Rime: Mr. Rime
:Golduck: Golduck
:Gourgeist: Gourgeist-Large
:Lycanroc-Midnight: Lycanroc-Midnight
:Mareanie: Mareanie
:Pikachu: Pikachu
:Roselia: Roselia

A-
:Beheeyem: Beheeyem
:Cursola: Cursola
:Falinks: Falinks
:Grapploct: Grapploct
:Grookey: Grookey
:Hattrem: Hattrem
:Lapras: Lapras
:Leafeon: Leafeon
:Magmar: Magmar
:Manectric: Manectric
:Marowak: Marowak
:Mawile: Mawile
:Meowstic: Meowstic
:Morgrem: Morgrem
:Mr. Mime: Mr. Mime
:Pawniard: Pawniard
:Pincurchin: Pincurchin
:Silvally: Silvally-Ice
:Silvally: Silvally-Rock

B+
:Beartic: Beartic
:Boltund: Boltund
:Dusclops: Dusclops
:Emolga: Emolga
:Fraxure: Fraxure
:Gothitelle: Gothitelle
:Heatmor: Heatmor
:Klang: Klang
:Metang: Metang
:Persian: Persian
:Pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:Raboot: Raboot
:Raichu: Raichu
:Relicanth: Relicanth
:Silvally-Bug: Silvally-Bug
:Stunfisk: Stunfisk
:Trevenant: Trevenant
:Vullaby: Vullaby
:Whiscash: Whiscash

B
:Armaldo: Armaldo
:Charjabug: Charjabug
:Dedenne: Dedenne
:Gabite: Gabite
:Glaceon: Glaceon
:Hakamo-o: Hakamo-o
:Hippopotas: Hippopotas
:Lunatone: Lunatone
:Machoke: Machoke
:Mr. Mime-Galar: Mr. Mime-Galar
:Oranguru: Oranguru
:Palpitoad: Palpitoad
:Shiinotic: Shiinotic
:Stonjourner: Stonjourner
:Vespiquen: Vespiquen
:Wigglytuff: Wigglytuff
:Zweilous: Zweilous

B-
:Dugtrio: Dugtrio
:Dunsparce: Dunsparce
:Eiscue: Eiscue
:Electabuzz: Electabuzz
:Gastly: Gastly
:Glalie: Glalie
:Ivysaur: Ivysaur
:Lairon: Lairon
:Lickitung: Lickitung
:Luxray: Luxray
:Maractus: Maractus
:Mudbray: Mudbray
:Octillery: Octillery
:Seaking: Seaking
:Stoutland: Stoutland
:Togetic: Togetic
:Vibrava: Vibrava

C+
:Amaura: Amaura
:Bellossom: Bellossom
:Duosion: Duosion
:Gourgeist: Gourgeist
:Honedge: Honedge
:Lampent: Lampent
:Linoone-Galar: Linoone-Galar
:Marshtomp: Marshtomp
:Meowstic-F: Meowstic-F
:Shedinja: Shedinja
:Slowpoke: Slowpoke
:Solrock: Solrock

C-
:Calyrex: Calyrex
:Carkol: Carkol
:Drakloak: Drakloak
:Koffing: Koffing
:Krokorok: Krokorok
:Munchlax: Munchlax
:Shelgon: Shelgon
:Sliggoo: Sliggoo
:Tranquill: Tranquill
:Walrein: Walrein
:Wartortle: Wartortle
:Whirlipede: Whirlipede
 
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Apagogie

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S rank

:Falinks: Falinks

A+
:Bouffalant: Bouffalant
:Drednaw: Drednaw
:Lilligant: Lilligant
:Mr. Rime: Mr. Rime
:Musharna: Musharna
:Rapidash-Galar: Rapidash-Galar
:Stunfisk: Stunfisk

A
:Crustle: Crustle
:Golduck: Golduck
:Gourgeist: Gourgeist-Large
:Mareanie: Mareanie
:Mawile: Mawile
:Roselia: Roselia
:Type null: Type:null

A-
:Boltund: Boltund
:Cursola: Cursola:
:Dubwool: Dubwool
:Glaceon: Glaceon
:Hattrem: Hattrem
:Heatmor: Heatmor
:Leafeon: Leafeon
:Lycanroc-Midnight: Lycanroc-Midnight
:Manectric: Manectric
:Marowak: Marowak
:Pawniard: Pawniard
:Pikachu: Pikachu
:Pincurchin: Pincurchin
:Silvally: Silvally-Bug

B+
:Beheeyem: Beheeyem
:Lapras: Lapras
:Meowstic: Meowstic
:Pyukumuku: Pyukumuku
:Raboot: Raboot
:Raichu: Raichu
:Silvally: Silvally-Ice
:Silvally: Silvally-Rock
:Trevenant: Trevenant:

B
:Armaldo: Armaldo
:Calyrex: Calyrex
:Charjabug: Charjabug
:Grookey: Grookey
:Metang: Metang
:Relicanth: Relicanth
:Shiinotic: Shiinotic
:Vullaby: Vullaby
:Vespiquen: Vespiquen

B-
:Dusclops: Dusclops
:Emolga: Emolga
:Grapploct: Grapploct
:Palpitoad: Palpitoad
:Klang: Klang
:Magmar: Magmar
:Mr. Mime: Mr. Mime
 
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