New Pokebank Changes - Little Cup Edition!

[skies]

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Well, we have this in both OU and Ubers, why not discuss them for LC Pokemon as well!
Notable Changes:

• Misdreavus now learns Dazzling Gleam via TM 99

This gives Misdreavus flawless coverage with Shadow Ball - bar the incredibly uncommon Litleo.

• Snorunt now gets Switcheroo via breeding with Cottonee

This gives Snorunt a niche as a quick scarf, as it has access to Spikes as well.

• Tepig now learns Sucker Punch via breeding with Mawile/Smeargle

This finally gives Tepig some form of priority, allowing it to not be outsped by a majority of the tier.

• Yamask now learns Toxic Spikes via breeding with Trubbish

This makes Yamask the only Pokemon in the tier who can set up hazards while spin blocking at the same time.

• SmogonKoffing now learns Toxic Spikes via breeding with Yamask

This is great, as Koffing already had a great movepool, this just makes it even more expansive!

• Cottonee now learns Dazzling Gleam via TM 99

Well, at least it got a Fairy STAB move!

• Frillish now learns Dazzling Gleam via TM 99

See Misdreavus.

Example sets utilizing each of these changes:

Misdreavus @ Berry Juice
Ability: Levitate
Level: 5
EVs: 236 Spd / 236 SAtk / 36 SDef
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Shadow Ball
- Dazzling Gleam
- Substitute

Snorunt @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 5
EVs: 196 Spd / 196 SAtk / 116 SDef
Timid Nature
- Spikes
- Switcheroo
- Sleep Talk
- Ice Beam

Tepig @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
Level: 5
EVs: 252 Atk / 236 SDef / 20 Def
Adamant Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Wild Charge
- Superpower
- Sucker Punch

Yamask @ Eviolite
Ability: Mummy
Level: 5
EVs: 236 SDef / 36 SAtk / 236 Def
Calm Nature
- Haze
- Will-O-Wisp
- Toxic Spikes
- Shadow Ball

or

Yamask @ Berry Juice
Ability: Mummy
Level: 5
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 240 SAtk / 212 HP
Modest Nature
- Toxic Spikes
- Hex
- Will-O-Wisp
- Hidden Power [Fighting]

Koffing @ Eviolite
Ability: Levitate
Level: 5
EVs: 236 SDef / 36 SAtk / 236 Def
Calm Nature
- Clear Smog
- Will-O-Wisp
- Fire Blast
- Toxic

Tangela 2.0 (Cottonee) @ Heat Rock
Ability: Chlorophyll
Level: 5
EVs: 224 SAtk / 196 SDef / 88 Def
Modest Nature
- Sunny Day
- Solar Beam
- Dazzling Gleam
- Hidden Power [Fire]

((Note: This set is an offensive side of Cottonee, so no Prankster~))

Discuss!

 

[chimp]

I'm really excited about Koffing and Yamask's Toxic Spikes buff. Prior to this, the only viable TSer was Tentacool. Plus Yamask was super outclassed by Missy.

 

[An-94]

Frillish get's leech seed I think that's worth mentioning

 

[skies]

Frillish get's leech seed I think that's worth mentioning

Proof? I don't see it in the Research thread...

 

[An-94]

Yea, it gets it from phantump (same egg group) I think it's on serebii and it hasn't been added to smogon's DB yet

 

[Cherub Agent]

i also dont see it on serebii

 

[An-94]

Yea my mistake I was told it got it aand that it was on serebii, I've obviously been trolled, however I will attempt this IN GAME to see if it is true because I have a frillish and im currently leveling my trev so in due time my peeps..

 

[Shouting]

Leech Seed Frillish doesn't make sense in the slightest...but Frillish DOES get Dazzling Gleam itself. Water and Ghost get good enough coverage by itself, but it could be useful for certain threats such as Scraggy or even Vullaby, which is cool.

 

[skies]

Leech Seed Frillish doesn't make sense in the slightest...but Frillish DOES get Dazzling Gleam itself. Water and Ghost get good enough coverage by itself, but it could be useful for certain threats such as Scraggy or even Vullaby, which is cool.

Adding to the OP, do you have a set you'd like added?

 

[An-94]

Leech Seed Frillish doesn't make sense in the slightest...but Frillish DOES get Dazzling Gleam itself. Water and Ghost get good enough coverage by itself, but it could be useful for certain threats such as Scraggy or even Vullaby, which is cool.

I doubt it'd do THAT much to vulaby who will gracefully just Knock off its eviolite while u just gleam which wont OHKO cos Vul will still have its eviolite and scrag will just crunch it and scrag is P bulky but still outspeeds so I doubt taking 1 gleam will do much itd be better to just hit it with scald and pray u get the burn

 

[Shouting]

76 SpA Frillish Dazzling Gleam vs. 196 HP / 76 SpD Eviolite Vullaby: 10-12 (38.4 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

Most Vullaby are physically defensive, so it can do decent damage. Vullaby does outspeed Frillish though, I guess you can finish off a weakned one.

76 SpA Frillish Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 36 SpD Eviolite Scraggy: 20-24 (95.2 - 114.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

This is more like it, you can OHKO Scraggy if it wants to switch in on you.

76 SpA Frillish Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mienfoo: 16-20 (76.1 - 95.2%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

Life Orb Mienfoo takes heavy damage too, although minefoo will most likely not switch into Frillish.

It can be a niche option, but Scald + Shadow Ball is usually better.

 

[An-94]

76 SpA Frillish Dazzling Gleam vs. 196 HP / 76 SpD Eviolite Vullaby: 10-12 (38.4 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

Most Vullaby are physically defensive, so it can do decent damage. Vullaby does outspeed Frillish though, I guess you can finish off a weakned one.

76 SpA Frillish Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 36 SpD Eviolite Scraggy: 20-24 (95.2 - 114.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

This is more like it, you can OHKO Scraggy if it wants to switch in on you.

76 SpA Frillish Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mienfoo: 16-20 (76.1 - 95.2%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

Life Orb Mienfoo takes heavy damage too, although minefoo will most likely not switch into Frillish.

It can be a niche option, but Scald + Shadow Ball is usually better.

Yea you're right about the vullaby thing they are mostly always def but I guess if you were to try and run a specs frillish..? does frillish get surf at least? or is scald stronger than surf? because a specs set with Gleam Shadow ball Surf and prob HP grass (but iirc it gets energy ball) Would smack almost everything around that doesnt resist whatever choice it goes with, I don't honestly know if that would work just a thought tho a specs set would be fun to test drive lol

 

[Shouting]

Specs Frillish is kinda underwhelming due to its sub-par speed. Outside of bulky sets, Trick Room and Choice Scarf sets are viable because Frillish has access to Water Spout, but these sets require a lot of team support.

 

[Anthiese]

scarf frillish lfgi also cottonee sweeps good fucking game

 

[Agonist]

Frillish doesn't get Leech Seed.

 

[Nozzle]

Tspikes koffing?
This thing is amazing rn