Yh I told people I'd beat them up in their dms and in a couple servers if they didn't make subs
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Pet Mod Multiverse - Gen 9 - Slate 10 FINAL
- Thread starter RedwoodRogue
- Start date
Welcome to the final veto of Multiverse!
I'm gonna save u some trouble before a mass slate review happens
Standard Ghold is just too much for the mod. GoG either needs a real nerf (and what you did doesn't cut it tbh), or Ghold should get a really big nerf to handle that
Separate from that, Aegislash also exists in the mod, so Ghold coming in as is probably completely shits on it and that's not particularly good for a small meta at the end of its life cycle.
You don't need to copy zxg, but please be more mindful of the state of the meta before copypasting an OU Pokémon into the tier. Ghold both statwise and its current ability is too strong and as it stands, this is vetoed.
Orange, this is insane (uninvested it's defense hits 476 btw), I can't in good faith allow this into the tier. Vetoed.
Twenty Four hours to make your changes. Remember that you can still make subs during this time, just do not expect to get reviews and a grace period if it's deemed too much.
I think Toed can use a little extra physical defense. Doesn't need to be a wall but 80/65 is very pitiful for a pivot, especially given the nature of it's typing.
Gonna make similar points to what I told Bobsican earlier:
I'm gonna save u some trouble before a mass slate review happens
Standard Ghold is just too much for the mod. GoG either needs a real nerf (and what you did doesn't cut it tbh), or Ghold should get a really big nerf to handle that
Separate from that, Aegislash also exists in the mod, so Ghold coming in as is probably completely shits on it and that's not particularly good for a small meta at the end of its life cycle.
You don't need to copy zxg, but please be more mindful of the state of the meta before copypasting an OU Pokémon into the tier. Ghold both statwise and its current ability is too strong and as it stands, this is vetoed.
+1 252 Atk Technician Maushold Population Bomb (10 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Stakataka: 150-180 (43.3 - 52%) -- approx. 9.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
Orange, this is insane (uninvested it's defense hits 476 btw), I can't in good faith allow this into the tier. Vetoed.
Right now, I think it goes too hard as an offensive Fairy, I think it should be nerfed below 100 speed, so it doesn't outclass all of the other Fairies outside of Sun. (Probably give it Weather Ball). Vetoed.
Doubles isn't a supported meta for Multiverse, so it should be more customized for a Singles tiered meta, especially since Hospitality seems tailor made to emulate Doubles. Vetoed.
Twenty Four hours to make your changes. Remember that you can still make subs during this time, just do not expect to get reviews and a grace period if it's deemed too much.
g-luke said to do this dont make fun of me
Pokemon: Meowscarada
Niche: OU
Stats: 76/110/70/81/70/123
Type: Grass/Dark
Abilities: Overgrow/-/Protein
New Moves: N/A
Removed Moves: N/A
Description: It like, pivots and stuff.
Pokemon: Quaquaval
Niche: SV UU
Stats: 85/120/80/85/75/85
Type: Water/Fighting
Abilities: Torrent/-/Moxie
New Moves: N/A
Removed Moves: N/A
Description: It gets really big with moxie and aqua step and swords dance i think.
Pokemon: Skeledirge
Niche: SV UU
Stats: 104/75/100/110/75/66
Type: Fire/Ghost
Abilities: Blaze/-/Unaware
New Moves: N/A
Removed Moves: N/A
Description: It takes no bullshit.
Pokemon: Meowscarada
Niche: OU
Stats: 76/110/70/81/70/123
Type: Grass/Dark
Abilities: Overgrow/-/Protein
New Moves: N/A
Removed Moves: N/A
Description: It like, pivots and stuff.
Pokemon: Quaquaval
Niche: SV UU
Stats: 85/120/80/85/75/85
Type: Water/Fighting
Abilities: Torrent/-/Moxie
New Moves: N/A
Removed Moves: N/A
Description: It gets really big with moxie and aqua step and swords dance i think.
Pokemon: Skeledirge
Niche: SV UU
Stats: 104/75/100/110/75/66
Type: Fire/Ghost
Abilities: Blaze/-/Unaware
New Moves: N/A
Removed Moves: N/A
Description: It takes no bullshit.
Pokemon: Ogerpon
Niche: SV UU
Stats: 80/120/84/70/96/100
Type: Grass/Ground
Abilities: Defiant / Embody Aspect (Teal) (On switchin, this Pokemon lowers the Speed of adjacent opponents by 1.)
New Moves: Close Combat
Ivy Cudgel: Ground-type
Removed Moves: N/A
Description: effective speed control due to decelerate
Pokemon: Ogerpon-Hearthflame (item locked)
Niche: SV Ubers
Stats: 95/105/84/70/96/100
Type: Grass/Fire
Abilities: Mold Breaker / Embody Aspect (Hearthflame) (On switchin, this Pokemon lowers the Defense of adjacent opponents by 1.)
New Moves: Fire Lash, Close Combat
Removed Moves: N/A
Description: works basically like original hearthflame but slightly slower in change for being a big wallbreaker/stallbreaker with constant def drops
Pokemon: Ogerpon-Wellspring (item locked)
Niche: SV OU
Stats: 80/110/84/70/106/100
Type: Grass/Water
Abilities: Water Absorb / Embody Aspect (Wellspring) (On switchin, this Pokemon lowers the Special Attack of adjacent opponents by 1.)
New Moves: Aqua Jet, Close Combat
Removed Moves: N/A
Description: stabmons wellspring but no jet punch
Pokemon: Ogerpon-Cornerstone (item locked)
Niche: SV UU
Stats: 80/115/89/70/96/100
Type: Grass/Rock
Abilities: Sturdy / Embody Aspect (Cornerstone) (On switchin, this Pokemon lowers the Attack of adjacent opponents by 1.)
New Moves: Stone Axe, Close Combat
Removed Moves: N/A
Description: she gets stone axe cause shes special
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Ok guys, submissions are now over only two subs have been veteod
Palp's
_cyclonez's
Everything else got addressed or isn't seen as too problematic, so let's begin voting! To remind everyone since a lot of new submissions came out this round - vote for your 7 favourite Pokémon, the lowest ranked Pokémon gets 1 point and it increases as you go up, capping at 7 points for the highest Pokémon. That also means if you vote for 5 mons your top vote counts for 5 points and so on. Regarding self votes, you have a maximum of three self votes. You can't vote for yourself in the top spot, and if you self vote for second, your next self vote cannot be third place.
Hope that brief explanation clears up everything for everyone, for now it's voting time. Good luck to everyone who subbed, and thanks for this final burst for Multiverse's finale! Voting lasts 48 Hours!
Palp's
_cyclonez's
Everything else got addressed or isn't seen as too problematic, so let's begin voting! To remind everyone since a lot of new submissions came out this round - vote for your 7 favourite Pokémon, the lowest ranked Pokémon gets 1 point and it increases as you go up, capping at 7 points for the highest Pokémon. That also means if you vote for 5 mons your top vote counts for 5 points and so on. Regarding self votes, you have a maximum of three self votes. You can't vote for yourself in the top spot, and if you self vote for second, your next self vote cannot be third place.
Hope that brief explanation clears up everything for everyone, for now it's voting time. Good luck to everyone who subbed, and thanks for this final burst for Multiverse's finale! Voting lasts 48 Hours!
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SV UU
SV PU (sv)
SV Ubers
SV LC (sv)
SV RU
SV OU
SV Ubers
sv ou (the remaining one) sv ubers
sv pu (sv)
sv ou sv uu sv lc
sv ou
Also why is this formatted this way christ
Winners!
SV OU: 28
SV UU: 25
SV Ubers: 22
SV LC: 21
SV Ubers: 21
SV PU: 17
SV OU: 10
SV OU: 9
SV OU: 8
SV UU: 8
SV Ubers: 7
SV PU: 6
SV Ubers: 5
SV UU: 4
SV OU: 1
SV OU: 1
SV OU: 0
SV UU: 0
SV UU: 0
SV OU: 0
SV RU: 0
Y'all have plenty of time to discuss about this final slate!
Pokémon: Gholdengo
Niche: OU
Stats: 87 / 60 / 105 / 113 / 81 / 84
Type:
Abilities: Insurance | Scatters coins when hit by a Flying-type move. Flying-type immunity.
New Moves: Take Heart, Fleur Cannon, Shakedown (Fighting-type Make it Rain)
Removed Moves: Make it Rain
Description: Gholdengo but even less stupid. way less spatk to increases reliance on setup. Fighting type to represent the Tera Fight, Fleur to represent the Tera Fairy, but you still got your flying resist that makes steel valuable
Pokemon: Sinistcha
Niche: SV UU
Stats: 76/60/116/126/80/80
Type: Ghost/Grass
Abilities: Hospitality/-/Heatproof
New Moves: N/ASwitch-in recovers 1/16 of its HP (rounded down) at the end of each turn. (Aqua Ring)
Removed Moves: N/A
Description: edit: Re-worked Hospitality to work in a Singles environment without being too OP.
Pokémon: Ursaluna-Bloodmoon
Niche: SV Ubers
Stats: 113 / 70 / 100 / 125 / 65 / 52
Type: Ground / Normal
Abilities: Mind's Eye (HA: Lunar Gift)
New Moves: Iron DefenseTera Shell clone, but only works once per switch-in.
Removed Moves: Taunt, Trailblaze
Descriptions: Slight stat reductions in a non-Tera meta should bring Bursa into the power level. It can, however, choose to forgo Mind's Eye, a great signature on its own, in favor of Lunar Gift, a (nerfed) Tera Shell clone to help represent its tendency to Tera out of super effective attacks. The restriction of only once per switch in helps prevent Ursa from doing stupid Multiscale things, as it keeps its access to reliable recovery.
Threatens:
Checks and Counters:
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Pokemon: Toedscool (incompatible)
Niche: SV LC
Type: Ground/Dark
Abilities: Water Absorb
Stats: 80/70/80/85/120/105 (540)
Movepool Changes:
+Dark Pulse, Night Slash, Hypnosis, Synthesis
-Spore
Description: Gives us a decent support/hazard control mon, with fast Hypnosis, Rapid Spin, Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Knock Off and Leech Seed, and a specially defensive Ground-type, something we currently do not have, and the change of its Grass type to Dark represents its use of Knock Off, but its mainly to scape how bad it is defensively, but has Water Absorb to represent the neutrality it had to Water types before, it can also use STAB Foul Play to scare off some physical wallbreakers like Caly-Ice and Aegislash from taking advantage of its low physdef. It can take on the likes of Glowbro, Dragalge, Nihilego, Silv-Water, and can force out Floatzel if its choice locked onto Wave Crash.
Pokemon: Ogerpon-Hearthflame (item locked)
Niche: SV Ubers
Stats: 95/105/84/70/96/100
Type: Grass/Fire
Abilities: Mold Breaker / Embody Aspect (Hearthflame) (On switchin, this Pokemon lowers the Defense of adjacent opponents by 1.)
New Moves: Fire Lash, Close Combat
Removed Moves: N/A
Description: works basically like original hearthflame but slightly slower in change for being a big wallbreaker/stallbreaker with constant def drops
Pokemon: Squawkabilly
Niche: SV PU
Type: Flying
Abilities: Intimidate
Stats: 82/113/86/45/86/93 (505)
Movepool Changes:
+ Dragon Ascent, Recover, Refresh
- Roost
Description: Based on its pivot set, offensive Intimidate pivot, with amazing STAB moves on Brave Bird or Dragon Ascent, coming off a decent 113atk, it also has some good utility on Parting Shot or U-Turn to pivot, Taunt, Refresh, which kinda emulates its use of Guts on its other sets, making it ignore status conditions, and Recover to heal up. Hitmontop is an amazing ally for Squawkabilly, as both work great as an Intimidate-spamming pair, both complement each other's types, and Hitmontop can eliminate the hazards that may bother Squawkabilly, while Squawkabilly can switch into status moves and heal them off with Refresh, other Pokemon that can help of benefit Squawkabilly are Hypno, where Squawk can fend off phys attackers and Hypno special ones, and their types complement each other well, Nihilego, where Squark can soften physical attackers so Nihilego has an easier time sweeping, and again their types complement each others well, and it can take on mons like Cacturne, Machamp, Serperior and Whimsicott.
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Pokémon: Iron Treads
Niche: SV OU
Stats: 90 HP / 112 Atk / 120 Def / 72 SpA / 70 SpD / 106 Spe | BST: 570
Type:
Abilities: Quark Drive
New Moves: Headlong Rush, Knock Off, Encore
Removed Moves: N/A
Descriptions: Serves as an excellent offensive pivot, hazard lead and potential speed control option with Booster Energy. Granted Headlong Rush for the extra damage versus many key threats in the metagame like recently added Samurott-Hisui, while Encore and Knock Off help it out vastly in matchups like Ho-oh
Threatens:
Checks and Counters:
SV OU: 28 SV UU: 25 SV Ubers: 22 SV LC: 21 SV Ubers: 21 SV PU: 17 SV OU: 10 SV OU: 9 SV OU: 8 SV UU: 8 SV Ubers: 7 SV PU: 6 SV Ubers: 5 SV UU: 4 SV OU: 1 SV OU: 1 SV OU: 0 SV UU: 0 SV UU: 0 SV OU: 0 SV RU: 0Y'all have plenty of time to discuss about this final slate!