Monotype Victim of the Week (Round 21 : Gengar)

[zolaski]

Approved by scpinion | OP adapted from OU version | Art by anundeadboy | Hosted alongside and Editing by all falls down

In Monotype more so than other tiers, there are huge threats that can be very hard to get past for types that have a large amount of shared weaknesses. As such, teambuilding in Monotype can be tough and there are so many teambuilding pressures that it can be difficult to decide what to do add on to counteract them. This thread is meant to serve as a resource by showing checks and counters to common threats in the Monotype metagame.

Rules:
1. Every round, I will nominate a Pokemon for discussion, along with the big types that the Pokemon is a threat to. Within ≈ 7 days' time, you guys will have the ability to discuss and nominate various Pokémon that you think can either check or counter the victim of the week, for one type or for every type.

2. The results will be archived and the process will continue week after week.

3. Follow the definitions for checks and counters, by MattL in The Smog Issue 32! (With a loose interpretation , as since this is Monotype it is hard to fit these criteria.)

4. Make sure your Pokemon is viable. If your Pokemon isn't ranked in the viability rankings here, then don't post it.

5. From Tuesday to Friday each person can only nominate one Pokemon. From Saturday to Monday each person can nominate as many Pokemon as he/she wants.

6. Post calcs if not obvious, and definitely provide a few lines of description.

7. You may reserve a check or counter, but you must post within a day of reserving or it's free for someone else to take.

8. Help people out if you think they're wrong, but please be nice.

9. Avoid flooding and "memeing", don't post if you have nothing to say.

10. If you have any suggestion about the project, PM me on Smogon.​

 

[zolaski]

Archive

Round 1 Specs Keldeo

Counters:

Physically Defensive Gastrodon

Checks:

Scarf Hoopa-U
Scarf / Sturdy Magnezone
Mega Charizard Y
Mega Aerodactyl
Mega Diancie
Scarf Victini
Mixed Bulk Mega Audino
Scarf / Mixed Bulk Jirachi
Assault Vest Metagross
Scarf Rotom-F
Heliolisk
Mega Pidgeot

Scarf Jynx

Round 2 Sand Rush Excadrill

Counters:
Skarmory
Rotom-W
Weezing

Checks:
Azumarill
Mega Heracross
Charizard Mega Y
Eelektross
Scarf Gardevoir
Defensive Rhyperior
Avalugg
Defensive Mega Scizor

Round 3 Mega Scizor

Mega Scizor

Counters:
Quagsire

Zapdos

Doublade

Bulky Garchomp

Weezing

Jellicent

Skarmory

Aegislash

(Actually Banned)

Checks:
Chandelure

Volcarona

Gyarados

Mandibuzz

Victini

Landorus-T

Magnezone

Alomomola

Klefki

Specs Lapras

Specs Walrein

Rotom-Frost

Watmel NG Avalugg

Porygon-2

Mega Garchomp

Gourgeist

Mega Venusaur

HP Fire Celebi

Round 4 Mega Sableye

Mega Sableye

Counters:
Toxic Mega Ampharos

Scrafty

SD Gliscor

Umbreon

RestTalk Mega Gyarados

Checks:
NP Infernape

Guts Heracross

Skill Swap Chansey

NP Lucario

Specs Roserade

PoisonFang Golbat

Haze Tentacruel

Manaphy

Whimsicott

Mega Gardevoir

Landorus

Sub Mega Gyarados

NP Thundurus

Mega Diancie

SubCm Keldeo

Specs Frost Breath Walrein

Round 5 TWave Clefable

CM + T-Wave Clefable

Counters:
Specs Magnezone

Unaware Clefable

Band Metagross

Nidoking

Nidoqueen

Excadrill

Aggron

Ferrothorn

Sleep Powder Mega Venusaur

Mega Steelix

Dragalge

Checks:
Iron Tail Lucario

Whirlpool PerishSong Lapras

SD Drapion

Sub Volcarona

SD Gliscor

Earth Plate Landorus

Explosion Landorus

Diggersby

Round 6 BD Azumarill

Counters:
Unaware Quagsire

Mega Venusaur

Checks:
Volcanion

Lapras

Kyurem-B

Toxicroak

Seismitoad

Tentacruel

Rotom-W

Cacturne

Unaware Clefable

Heliolisk

Skarmory

Mega Aggron

Round 7 Specs Volcanion

Counters:

Jellicent

Chansey

Defensive Dragonite

Support Latias

RestTalk Ampharos-Mega

Assault Vest Volcanion

Checks:

Mamoswine

Rotom-F

Cradily

Garchomp-Mega

Round 8 Mixed Scarf Hoopa-U

Counters:

Mandibuzz

Mega-Sableye

Defensive Staraptor

Checks:

Ferrothorn

Weavile

Round 9 Quiver Dance Volcarona

Counters:

Heatran

Scarf Chandelure

Unaware Clefable

Assault Vest Gallade

Checks :

Scarf Victini

Choice Band Azumarill

Tyranitar

Bulky Mega-Diancie

Scarf Kyurem-B

Defensive Azumarill

Assault Vest Eelektross

Round 10 Mega-Venusaur

Counters :

Crobat

Curse Mega-Aggron

Assault Vest Gallade

Heatran

Checks / Revenge Killers :

Sub DD Gyarados

Specs Magnezone

Mega-Pidgeot

Swanna

Specs Meloetta

Band Hoopa-U

Assault Vest Jirachi

Gengar

Kepia Berry Togekiss

Round 11 Dragon Dance Dragonite

Counters :

Skarmory

Checks / Revenge Killers :

Curse Quagsire

Togekiss

Scarf Kyurem-B

Rocky Helmet Slowbro

Fake Out Weavile

Shell Smasher Cloyster

Aurorus

Round 12 Mega-Charizard-Y

Counters:

Chandelure

Assault Vest Tyranitar

Chansey

Dragalge

Checks / Revenge Killers :

Scarf Terrakion

Custap Berry Forretress

Scarf Kyurem-B

Mega-Diancie

Scarf Landorus-T

Scarf Heracross

Dragon Dance Zygarde

Focus Sash Breloom

HP Rock Scarf Roserade

Chlorophyll Shiftry

Assault Vest Gallade

Garchomp

Scarf Victini

Power Gem Starmie

Cradily

Round 13 Specs Kingdra

Counters :

Chansey

SpDef Ferrothorn

SpDef Jellicent

Checks / Revenge Killers :

Trace Scarf Gardevoir

Umbreon

SpDef Mega-Venusaur

Assault Vest Goodra

Assault Vest Azumarill

Assault Vest Lapras

Specs Sylveon

Round 14 Defensive Poriygon2

Counters :

Magic Guard Clefable

Mega-Venusaur

Ferrothorn

Mega-Scizor

Heal Bell Umbreon

Checks / Revenge Killers :

Medicham-Mega

Banded Terrakion

Chansey

Specs Hoopa-U

Specs Keldeo

Banded Haxorus

Taunt Gengar

Round 15 Scarfed Kyurem-B

Counters :

Ferrothorn

Doublade

Physically Defensive Porygon2

Checks / Revenge Killers :

Physically Defensive Rotom-W

Scarfed Latios

Specs Magnezone

Scizor

Scarfed Terrakion

Chansey

Hall Of Fame

iZyo - 17
Mega Serperior Z - 15
Kilgrave - 10
cjl1 - 9
Shining Yin - 8
Waszap - 7
terrors - 7
Juleocesar - 6
Izaya. - 6
Zmeeed - 6
.Rawr! - 4
Sobi - 4
6Ti - 4
Twix - 4
scpinion - 4
EienSieryuu - 4
IronicNinja - 4
Fírnen - 4
Kgbeast - 4
iLlama - 4
BrandonBeast - 4
Cell - 3
Mars Lowell - 3
Peef Rimgar - 3
ReuzeSmurf - 3
Wanka - 3
Offline_Dating - 3
Czim - 3
Craticus - 3
Vlmufa - 3
SirSkit - 3
Clearly - 3
submindraikou - 3
darksylvion - 2
Mentalist Swag - 2
Average Fella - 2
hebbygal - 2
Tyke - 2
The Excadrill - 2
Trichotomy - 2
Darkjak - 1
Truedrew - 1
OM Room - 1
Epic_Mewtwo - 1
Gentleman Tech - 1
1 True Lycan - 1
ChildOfDisorder - 1
Ridley - 1
Bondie - 1
Star Sky - 1
Crimson Torrent - 1
Death on Wings - 1
Ticktick - 1
ywa1n - 1
all falls down - 1
Bitana - 1
megaqwer:D - 1
The Vale - 1
Catalystic - 1
Endal - 1
Hannibalism - 1
Arlaxeon - 1

This Week's Pokemon

Week 20 - Mega-Heracross (Bug)
Types : Any Type except Fairy, Flying, Psychic and Fire (Because too easy to Revenge Kill.)

omg so cute...
Heracross-Mega @ Heracronite
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Pin Missile
- Rock Blast
- Bullet Seed / Subsitute / Swords Dance
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[zolaski]

Week 8 - Mixed Scarf Hoopa-U (Psychic)
Types : Psychic Fighting Fairy Normal Ghost Poison Dark Ice Grass Rock

Hoopa-Unbound @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Magician
EVs: 180 Atk / 76 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Hyperspace Fury
- Psychic/Hyperspace Hole
- Drain Punch
- Gunk Shot

Hoopa-U is a newcomer from the 6th Gen, and also one of the biggest threat in actual monotype metagame, every type needs a check or a counter to this huge threat !​

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[SubMindRaikou]

why i think steel and fairy dont count as types 'weak' to this hoopa u set

Week 1 - Mixed Scarf Hoopa-U (Psychic)
Types : Psychic Fighting Fairy Normal Ghost Poison Dark Ice Grass Rock Steel

Hoopa-Unbound @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Magician
EVs: 180 Atk / 76 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Hyperspace Fury
- Psychic/Hyperspace Hole
- Drain Punch
- Gunk Shot

Hoopa-U is a newcomer from the 6th Gen, and also one of the biggest threat in actual monotype metagame, every type needs a check or a counter to this huge threat !​

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i dont think steel should be listed as one of the types seeing as standard defensive mega scizor and skarmory both switch into this hoopa u set with ease

76 SpA Hoopa Unbound Psychic vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Skarmory: 108-127 (32.3 - 38%) -- 97.1% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
76 SpA Hoopa Unbound Hyperspace Hole vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Skarmory: 96-113 (28.7 - 33.8%) -- 0.9% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Hyperspace Fury vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Mega Scizor: 136-162 (39.6 - 47.2%) -- 41% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
76 SpA Hoopa Unbound Psychic vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Mega Scizor: 81-96 (23.6 - 27.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Stealth Rock

If Hoopa locks itself into any move other than drain punch (which the above can switch into) bisharp can kill it with sucker or pursuit or cripple it to the point where and priority kos it
252 Atk Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 214-253 (71 - 84%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
(Pursuit gets the same bp as sucker if he switches out)

If your feeling cheeky even Doublade can beat hoopa 1v1 with iron head and shadow sneak
252+ Atk Doublade Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 216-255 (71.7 - 84.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Doublade Shadow Sneak vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 109-129 (36.2 - 42.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

And even if you dont have your 2 S rank pokemon or are missing your a ranked bisharp and doublade excadrill still revenges hoopa u and ferrothorn can counter it

180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 124-146 (35.2 - 41.4%) -- 99.8% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (150 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 258-304 (85.7 - 100.9%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

252 Atk Mold Breaker Excadrill Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 283-334 (94 - 110.9%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

For hoopa u to really be a threat to steel teams it should be running the steel breaking set (pretty sure barian/pk kaiser made it)

http://monotypeps.weebly.com/confluxxs-balanced-psychic.html

Hoopa-Unbound @ Leftovers
Ability: Magician
EVs: 76 HP / 180 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Substitute
- Drain Punch
- Dark Pulse
- Hidden Power [Fire]

I also cant fairy having that much trouble with hoopa u. Klefki easily switches in and 2hkos with foul play

0 Atk Klefki Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 195-230 (64.7 - 76.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

and pretty much everything survives gunk shot after reflect and ohkos or 2hkos

180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Azumarill through Reflect: 176-208 (51.6 - 60.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 602-710 (200 - 235.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 172 Def Clefable through Reflect: 153-181 (38.8 - 45.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Hoopa Unbound: 156-186 (51.8 - 61.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Diancie: 135-159 (56 - 65.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
224 SpA Mega Diancie Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Hoopa Unbound: 288-338 (95.6 - 112.2%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Gunk Shot vs. 240 HP / 0 Def Sylveon through Reflect: 208-245 (53.1 - 62.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Hoopa Unbound: 300-354 (99.6 - 117.6%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Gardevoir through Reflect: 208-245 (75 - 88.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
232 SpA Pixilate Mega Gardevoir Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Hoopa Unbound: 360-426 (119.6 - 141.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[Cracticus]

dark counter
Mandibuzz @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Overcoat
EVs: 252 HP / 148 Def / 108 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Foul Play
- Toxic
- Defog
- Roost

mandibuzz can switch in to literally any of this hoopa-u's attacks. even though it's nowhere near outspeeding, hoopa can barely touch it, while mandibuzz can click foul play to possibly ohko and click roost to get hp up if it's worn down a little by pebbles. the calcs speak for themselves (even though i'm pretty sure they're lying, what is this sorcery)

180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Hyperspace Fury vs. 252 HP / 148+ Def Mandibuzz: 69-82 (16.2 - 19.3%) -- possible 6HKO
Hoopa Unbound Psychic vs. Mandibuzz: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- aim for the horn next time
180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 148+ Def Mandibuzz: 70-83 (16.5 - 19.5%) -- possible 6HKO
180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 148+ Def Mandibuzz: 111-131 (26.1 - 30.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
(after roost) 180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 148+ Def Mandibuzz: 140-166 (33 - 39.1%) -- 99.9% chance to 3HKO

0- Atk Mandibuzz Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 292-345 (97 - 114.6%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO


even with no investment at all, mandibuzz will still be able to switch in to anything hoopa has

180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Hyperspace Fury vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mandibuzz: 87-103 (24 - 28.5%) -- 98% chance to 4HKO
180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mandibuzz: 88-104 (24.3 - 28.8%) -- 99.2% chance to 4HKO
180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mandibuzz: 141-166 (39 - 45.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

 

[Trichotomy]

Ghost Counter

set

Sableye @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 112 Def / 144 SpD
Careful Nature
- Knock Off
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Foul Play

or

Sableye @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Shadow Ball
- Recover
- Will-O-Wisp

Explanation and calcs

lol mega sableye you can use either the utility or cm set both of which easily counter this hoopa u set. with only one move that can even do damage this is basically the only counter to hoopa u on ghost besides spiritomb which sucks ass

76 Atk Hoopa Unbound Hyperspace Fury vs. 252 HP / 112 Def Mega Sableye: 129-153 (42.4 - 50.3%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO - if youre really paranoid about getting haxed you can run 120 defense and it guarantees that it won't get 2hkoed

76 Atk Hoopa Unbound Hyperspace Fury vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Sableye: 106-126 (34.8 - 41.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

0 Atk Mega Sableye Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 273-322 (90.6 - 106.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

 

[zolaski]

Answer to SubMindRaikou :

Honestly, Steel was a mistake from me. And about Fairy the rules specify "one Pokemon" not a core, and yes Klefki is the "only" viable counter to Scarfed Hoopa-U Gunkshot in Fairy, so i think Fairy can be type weak to Hoopa-U without Klefki. I keep Fairy and remove Steel. Thanks for the remark.

 

[Zmeeed]

Ice check.

Sets:

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Weavile @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Icicle Crash
- Knock Off
- Low Kick
- Pursuit

or...

Weavile @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Icicle Crash
- Knock Off
- Ice Shard / Pursuit
- Low Kick / Pursuit

Explanation:

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While it should be switching in Unbound Hoopa's STAB moves only in desperation, Weavile checks it very well. Choice Scarf Weavile works best against it due to the fact it can freely hit Hoopa with Knock Off or trap it with Pursuit if it was locked into an unconvenient move or it tries to avoid a potential Life Orb-boosted Ice Shard.

Note: all Pursuit calculations are for instances where the target switches out.

Choice Scarf Weavile:
252+ Atk Weavile Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 277-327 (92 - 108.6%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Weavile Pursuit vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 229-270 (76 - 89.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Weavile Pursuit vs. -1 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 343-405 (113.9 - 134.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Weavile:
252+ Atk Life Orb Weavile Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 149-177 (49.5 - 58.8%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Weavile Ice Shard vs. -1 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 224-265 (74.4 - 88%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Pursuit vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 270-320 (89.7 - 106.3%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

If Weavile is forced to switch-in directly:
160 Atk Hoopa Unbound Hyperspace Fury vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Weavile: 128-151 (45.5 - 53.7%) -- 41% chance to 2HKO
160 Atk Hoopa Unbound Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Weavile: 205-242 (72.9 - 86.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[Sobi]

soft counter

Staraptor @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Double Edge
- Close Combat
- U-turn

Get Staraptor in, press U-turn, done. Get Staraptor in, press Double-Edge, done. Get Staraptor in, press Brave Bird, done. All KO Hoopa-U, making it a perfect counter to it. Intimidate helps bluff a defensive set and weakens the power of some of Hoopa-U's moves, which is why it's a soft counter, because Psychic is unaffected by Intimidate and still does a good chunk.

252 Atk Staraptor U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 488-576 (162.1 - 191.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Staraptor Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 313-369 (103.9 - 122.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 313-369 (103.9 - 122.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

-1 180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 130-154 (41.8 - 49.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
-1 180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 82-97 (26.3 - 31.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
-1 180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Hyperspace Fury vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 162-192 (52 - 61.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[juleocesar]

Grass Check:

Ferrothorn @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Leech Seed
- Spikes
- Protect / Thunder Wave
- Gyro Ball

Ferrothorn is by far one of the best checks Grass teams have for Hoopa-Unbound. With a physically defensive based set, it is able to takes most of its moves with ease, especially considering the mentioned set for Hoopa-Unbound lacks Fire Punch. Drain punch/Hyperspace Fury deals only 30-36% damage, as shown by the calcs:
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calcs

180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 110-130 (31.2 - 36.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
180 Atk Hoopa Unbound Hyperspace Fury vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 109-129 (30.9 - 36.6%) -- 99.5% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock

Furthermore, Gyro Ball deals massive damage to it, allowing it to effectively OHKO its target thanks to Rocky Helmet and Iron Barbs (even if Drain Punch heals, the heal still comes before the residual damage, so it will never be at full health)

calcs

20 Atk Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (150 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa Unbound: 258-304 (85.7 - 100.9%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

 

[zolaski]

The week is end, and only few nominations ... I'll uptade archives later on the day.

Week 9 - Quiver Dance Volcarona (Bug)
Types : Psychic Bug Steel Ground Dark Ice Grass Ghost Electric Fairy

Volcarona @ Lum Berry
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 72 HP / 252 SpA / 184 Spe
Timid Nature
- Quiver Dance
- Fiery Dance
- Giga Drain
- Bug Buzz

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[SubMindRaikou]

Heatran @ Air Balloon
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 228 HP / 252 SpA / 28 Spe
Modest Nature
- Lava Plume
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Earth Power
- Stone Edge

Heatran is one of the most important steel type pokemon, and with its immunity to fire and 4x resistance to giga drain and bug buzz it makes the perfect Volcarona counter. EVs can be anything really, this just outruns Mega Venusaur and non invested base 80s with the rest into spatk and bulk.

+6 252 SpA Volcarona Giga Drain vs. 228 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 79-94 (20.7 - 24.7%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
+6 252 SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 228 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 143-169 (37.6 - 44.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0- Atk Heatran Stone Edge vs. 72 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 340-400 (103.3 - 121.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

The only problem comes when switching into a giga drain or bug buzz then facing hp ground next turn, but you didnt slash that onto this set :p

 

[Shining Yin]

Psychic Check:

Victini @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Victory Star
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- U-Turn
- Bolt Strike
- Blue Flare
- V-Create

Pretty much Psychic's most reliable answer to Volcarona without ruining the fundamentals of the team. With Choice Scarf, you outspeed Volcarona at +1 and can easily KO it with V-Create. Note that this is a check not a counter, so it cannot directly switch in as it is 2HKOd on the switch by Bug Buzz.

Calcs:
252 Atk Victini V-create vs. 72 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 348-411 (105.7 - 124.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Victini: 153-180 (44.8 - 52.7%) -- 22.7% chance to 2HKO
+1 252 SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Victini: 228-268 (66.8 - 78.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Victini: 303-357 (88.8 - 104.6%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO (Needs +2 to OHKO)

Gotta get the easy ones out of the way :P

 

[Shining Yin]

Ghost Counter:

Chandelure @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball
- Trick

The only true counter Ghost has against Volcarona, Chandelure can take anything that Volcarona can dish out, and retaliate in return with the power it offers via its 145 SAtk. Being as the Volcarona listed lacks Roost, the Choice Scarf set will work better over the Sub CM set, which works better against Roost variants. Although with each Quiver Dance the damage is reduced, eventually Volcarona will fall after 3-4 hits depending on when it is you actually hit Volcarona (+0 or +1). Calcs to be presented below:

+6 252 SpA Volcarona Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Chandelure: 182-215 (69.7 - 82.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+6 252 SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Chandelure: 164-193 (62.8 - 73.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Chandelure Fire Blast vs. 72 HP / 0 SpD Volcarona: 187-222 (56.8 - 67.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Chandelure Shadow Ball vs. 72 HP / 0 SpD Volcarona: 136-162 (41.3 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Chandelure Shadow Ball vs. +1 72 HP / 0 SpD Volcarona: 91-108 (27.6 - 32.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 SpA Chandelure Fire Blast vs. +1 72 HP / 0 SpD Volcarona: 126-148 (38.2 - 44.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Chandelure Fire Blast vs. +2 72 HP / 0 SpD Volcarona: 94-112 (28.5 - 34%) -- 1.8% chance to 3HKO
252 SpA Chandelure Shadow Ball vs. +2 72 HP / 0 SpD Volcarona: 69-82 (20.9 - 24.9%) -- guaranteed 5HKO

 

[Sobi]

hi azumarill as check

Azumarill @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 172 HP / 252 Atk / 84 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Waterfall
- Aqua Jet
- Knock Off

azumarill can just ko with aqua jet but can't counter b/c it gets 2hkoed by giga drain

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 72 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 338-402 (102.7 - 122.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Volcarona Giga Drain vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Azumarill: 204-240 (53.1 - 62.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[all falls down]

dark check:

Tyranitar @ Chople Berry / whatever item you use on support ttar
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 200 SpD
Brave Nature
- Stone Edge
- Fire Blast
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Wave

Can take 2 unboosted Bug Buzz and even a +1 or +2 Bug Buzz and OHKO with Stone Edge. neat for dark teams.

dragon check:

Dragonite @ Choice Band
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Extreme Speed
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake

takes any 2 hits and ohkos with outrage

 

[Zap]

Fairy Counter:

Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Moonblast
- Soft-Boiled
- Thunder Wave

252 SpA Volcarona Fiery Dance vs. 252 HP / 84+ SpD Clefable: 123-145 (31.2 - 36.8%) -- 77.4% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

can take any one of its attacks, and because of unaware, it doesnt care about the setup stats. Clefable threatens it with thunderwave, and a CM setup.

 

[Kilgrave]

I'm back, and this time I'll try to do a decent viable Pokemon this time around.

Fairy Check

Diancie-Mega @ Diancite
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs:4 Atk/252 SpD/252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Diamond Storm
- Moonblast
- Earth Power
- Protect

The fairy princess has come to eat some fire bug booty.

This might seem like a bit of a retarded odd set. I mean, specially defensive Diancie? As it turns out, a Diamond Storm from a Mega Diancie with no Attack investment and an Attack-reducing nature still kills Volcarona. By a lot.

Volcarona's Death

0- Atk Mega Diancie Diamond Storm vs. 72 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 828-976 (251.6 - 296.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

But that is not important. What is important is that Diamond Storm mops the floor with Volcarona. Literally:
4 Atk Mega Diancie Diamond Storm vs. 72 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 924-1092 (280.8 - 331.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

The SpD investment is to take a Giga Drain at +1

Diancie Surviving

252 SpA Volcarona Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 252 SpD Mega Diancie: 124-148 (51.4 - 61.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252 SpA Volcarona Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 252 SpD Mega Diancie: 188-222 (78 - 92.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Volcarona outspeeds Diancie at +1, but doesn't kill it.

 

[terrors]

dark check:

Tyranitar @ Chople Berry / whatever item you use on support ttar
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 200 SpD
Brave Nature
- Stone Edge
- Fire Blast
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Wave

Can take 2 unboosted Bug Buzz and even a +1 or +2 Bug Buzz and OHKO with Stone Edge. neat for dark teams.

dragon check:

Dragonite @ Choice Band
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Extreme Speed
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake

takes any 2 hits and ohkos with outrage

dragon isn't in the types MiyoKa listed. Idk if I read the rules wrong or I missed something but just wanted to point it out in case that was a mistake.

 

[Seo.]

Psychic Counter

Gallade @ Assault Vest
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 200 SpD
Careful Nature
- Rock Slide
- Knock Off
- Drain Punch
- Shadow Sneak

Credits to Demonic Ferro for the set

56 Atk Gallade Rock Slide vs. 72 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 388-460 (117.9 - 139.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+6 252 SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 200+ SpD Assault Vest Gallade: 274-324 (80.5 - 95.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[Seo.]

Ice Check

Kyurem-Black @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Outrage
- Fusion Bolt
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam

252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-B Outrage vs. 72 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 340-402 (103.3 - 122.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[heybbygal]

Fairy Check

Azumarill @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Toxic
- Protect
- Scald/Seismic Toss
- Perish Song

Absorbs Giga Drain and doesn't care about Volcarona's Stabs
(Pretty much from Thimo's Stall Water with full Sp.Def investment and Seismic Toss as an option for Scald)

Water is not a type to choose from, you can only choose from the types MiyoKa specified in the post

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And you could pretty much edit your last post to avoid double posting next time.

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[zolaski]

Ice Counter

Kyurem-Black @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Outrage
- Fusion Bolt
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam

252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-B Outrage vs. 72 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 340-402 (103.3 - 122.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

It's a check/revenge killer, not a counter.

 

[Tyke]

Electric Check

Elektross @ Assault Vest
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- U-turn
- Drain Punch
- Rock Slide
- Thunder Punch / Aqua Tail / Knock Off

Can take anything Volcarona fires off and KO back with rock slide.

 

[Seo.]

It's a check/revenge killer, not a counter.

ah yes, my bad ill add it in now